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Treasure Hunter Wants To Find Bin Laden's Body With ROV
Kittenman writes "Slate is carrying some details of how eccentric treasure hunter Bill Warren is proposing looking for the body of Osama Bin Laden in the Arabian sea. He plans on using sonar, and a remotely operated submersible. If he finds the remains, he'll photograph them to confirm Bin Laden's death to the world. Warren says, 'There is still a $25 million reward that no one has collected, and the reward says dead or alive, well, if -- in fact -- he is dead, then I could collect the $25 million reward. Why not?'"
Good luck finding a target slightly smaller, that the fish have been chewing on.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Recover that body! Think about it... Weekend at Osama's!
They put him in the secret freezer next to Walt Disney and the real Mikhail Gorbachev.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
And you thought someone keeping $500,000 in bitcoins on their windows machine was an idiot...
'There is still a $25 million reward that no one has collected, and the reward says dead or alive, well, if -- in fact -- he is dead, then I could collect the $25 million reward. Why not?'
"Why not?" is that the reward is given at the discretion of the US government, and they're not going to give it to you.
Needs more sunglasses!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Gritz Back in the 80s, US special forces were going to rescue POWs that were still being held in Vietnam. They tried twice, and both times as soon as they were getting close to launching the raids, Bo Gritz popped up, did a little boasting and ego stroking, and got the missions cancelled. This guy is directly responsible for the deaths of those prisoners. Anyway, whenever I see Slate stroking his own ego, I can't help but think of Gritz. At least Slate isn't getting anyone killed though.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Did anyone check his office in Langley?
I prefer his head futurama-style in a cabinet.
i bet that if he manages to get pictures of BinLaden i'm sure he'll make quite a bit of money from the tabloids alone anyways.
They were able to find, recover and identify roughly 70 bodies 2 years after the plane went down. So, it would be possible if he found it fairly quickly. However, I think this guy is an idiot and nothing more than a publicity seeker. Of course the $25million reward no longer stands. The government found him and killed him. And they know where the body was dumped as well. Those coordinates are just highly classified. You can't find what isn't lost or missing.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Here is an interview with Bill Warren on The Roe & Roeper radio show on Chicago's WLS-AM station. http://www.wlsam.com/article.asp?id=2213142&spid=37724 If you want to skip past the B.S., just listen to to the last four minutes where a professional salvage operator completely shows him up.
Fish can't get to the body. It'd be in a regulation US Navy body bag specifically made for burials at sea, and loaded down with lead weights. It'd definitely be hard to find though.
--Obyron
Assuming that he's successful in locating the body and is successful in verifying that it's the right body and manages to get the US government to pay up anyways, the likelihood is that this would still be a losing venture as he could very easily blow through $25m searching. Ships for that sort of operation are not cheap, and neither are the rest of the resources needed. And if the body isn't located quickly, chances are that it will just blend in to the bottom as flora start to grow over it.
At this point, I'd put the odds at being indistinguishable from zero. Even with the knowledge of where the ship was, one has no idea how far a body would drift as it sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
Well, it only took them 75 years to find the Titanic.
No, the majority of the time was waiting for the technology to catch up so they could verify where it sank. They always knew the general location of where it was from the last coordinates sent from the Titanic as well as the rescue ships documenting where they picked up the passengers. The 75 year wait was waiting for correct technology to be developed so they could send something down 2 miles to say, "yep there it is".
Seriously, how do you choose which hare-brained conspiracy theory you want to believe in? Since there is absolutely no evidence that he was killed years ago, is in a Guantanamo cell or is back at his office at he CIA, then how can you say that one theory is wrong and another right.
And why is any of those bizarre ideas more plausible than the official line. The idea that he died years ago requires both the co-operation of Al-Qaeda and President Bush to agree to defer the glory to his successor. Yeah, right.
I think this guy might find himself...
*sunglasses*
...in over his head
YEEEAAAAH!
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
I think it's called "the government lies to us all the time, so now we don't know what's true and what's not". I'll call up the APA and see if we can get it into the next revision.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Should be given as college scholarships for the kids of Seal Team 6 as well as a nice cunk of tax free cash to each of the members. IT's the right thing to do.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Logic tells us that there's no way that the U.S. government would announce bin Laden's death without being 100% sure that he was dead, because it would be too easy for bin Laden to release a video reading the headlines from today's newspaper.
Maybe they know he died a year ago from kidney failure and the U.S. government wants to take credit, but you can bet that bin Laden is dead right now.
Anyone who loves or hates any language, platform, or manufacturer, doesn't know what they're talking about.
Burial at sea is fine for Muslims. In this particular context the important bit is most likely this bit: " if an enemy may dig up the grave to mutilate the body, it is also allowed to bury the deceased at sea to avoid mutilation." (And if you don't trust Wikipedia on the matter, go to their source: Rules About Burial of the Dead Body.)
Given all the comments I've seen that he ought to have been buried in a box of pork chops, I think it's fair to say that this was a real concern.
IIRC, shrouds intended for burial at sea aren't watertight. The material is made to be durable in undersea conditions so that the body won't escape, but holes are cut into the fabric to let water in and escaping gases out. This speeds up decomposition and reduces the bag's buoyancy.
Perhaps The Hague might pay a bounty for providing evidence of a rogue state conducting unlawful assassinations on foreign territory?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
Doesn't change a bit about the fact that you guys watered down the definition of "combatant" to the point where it could mean anyone. Obviously a state doesn't need to be involved, obviously a formal declaration of war doesn't need to be involved. In that framework, an "enemy combatant" is just code for "anyone the US does not like and will disappear without any trial or evidence." Excuse me if my trust is limited.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
For me, the fact that Bin Laden hasn't released any new videos or other media since the raid is proof enough that he's dead for me.
I read the internet for the articles.
I don't have a lot of time for Dubya, but you can't deny that he's shown pretty good grace by keeping the hell out of the limelight since stepping down. He knows perfectly well what kind of attention he attracts, and he's sensible enough not to want to draw that on such an occasion.
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