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Practical "Smell-o-Vision" System Being Developed

cylonlover writes "Researchers have managed to create a proof of concept Smell-o-Vision device potentially capable of pumping out thousands of different odors, yet small enough to fit behind a TV. The device has 200 X-axis controllers and 100 on the Y-axis that could selectively activate each of the 10,000 possible odors stored within numerous non-flammable silicone elastomer compartments."

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  1. Inquiring minds... by ambivalent_maybe · · Score: 1

    Am I the only person that thinks this is a terrible and possibly revolting idea?

    1. Re:Inquiring minds... by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 1

      I agree. Who would want this?

    2. Re:Inquiring minds... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 2

      I do wonder if the human race is beginning to lose its capabilities of imagination...

      I have and have had times when what I've been watching on a screen in front of me has been so interesting or so well filmed that I've managed to become immersed in what's going on without the need for surround sound, high definition, 3D or odours.

      It might be argued that people now need these extra "enhancements" because most stuff on screen these days is such crap that there's little chance of becoming immersed in it without them.

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    3. Re:Inquiring minds... by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      No. No you aren't.

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    4. Re:Inquiring minds... by ModernGeek · · Score: 2

      One can say the same thing about books, radio, tv, tv with sound, or tv with colour.

      I'm sure old timer story tellers thought that books were expensive, rare toys for people who had no one to tell stories to them.

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    5. Re:Inquiring minds... by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2

      In that same vein, now imagine all the shite reality shows, now instead of watching them for the crap programming they are you can smell how bad they are too.

      OMG those Jersey Shore kids have a pong to them.

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    6. Re:Inquiring minds... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Since odors cling, this one's a doozy. The repetition rate for odor emission (appearance-cleanaway) is very slow. Meaning that the odor released in one scene will still be around in another scene, if used in a movie. Yeah, I'll love to have a house full of left-over odors. From The Kentucky Fried Movie: 3rd guest: CHRIST! Did a cow shit in here?

    7. Re:Inquiring minds... by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      After a few minutes of mixing scents, wouldn't they all just merge together into a foul smelling mess? You'd need to operate this in a well ventilated area. If you were a hacker, could you drive people away fro their computer with one of these units attached just by activating all 10,000 smells at once?

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    8. Re:Inquiring minds... by Grizzley9 · · Score: 1

      Forget smell-o-vision, where's my microwave type device that cools food instead of heating it? They've been promising that for years. [insert flying car dreams here]

    9. Re:Inquiring minds... by SomePgmr · · Score: 2

      I'd guess nobody.

      The first couple times I smell something, that'll be really neat. Then my whole place starts to smell from the commercials pumping odors into my living room, accumulating there, and the residue accumulating on my TV and entertainment center. Then my carpet needs to be wet vac'd every other day.

      I mean even if they've found a way to deal with all of that (I'd be surprised), I still don't see myself wanting various smells pumped into my living room. Even if I only watched 24x7 cooking shows.

    10. Re:Inquiring minds... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I have my doubts about this. They've had "smellovision" at Disney's EPCOT for decades, and I wasn't impressed. None of the scents smelled natural; does grape koolaid taste like grape juice to you? Same with the smellovision. But I could see this comong back in 1985 when I first rode the rides that had it.

      The addition of smell didn't really add anything (or much of anything) to the enjoyment of the show, so I can't see paying for this. If it did take off, it would garner a fortune on the consumables; printer ink all over again. But I predict it will flop badly.

    11. Re:Inquiring minds... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      Ain't gonna come. There's that pesky 2nd law of thermodynamics. Heating stuff is simple. Pour in energy, hit some transition - disorder increases, more thermal motion - heat. If you want to cool, you obviously need to take energy out - get the system more ordered. Way harder to do. Best way is still just to connect your system to a colder reservoir and let conduction and convection do the job. Actively taking out the energy on a molecular level, microwave style? Hard. You can do that on the submicroscopic level, e.g. laser cooling, but getting that up to a convenience machine like a microwave? Personally, I don't see how. Never met anyone who promised that either.

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    12. Re:Inquiring minds... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Yes, think of all the vomit smells and fart jokes you aren't truly experiencing from the comfort of your couch...

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    13. Re:Inquiring minds... by Painted · · Score: 1

      Best idea I've ever seen for this is from the Inventions of Daedelous, where he suggested a rapidly switching magnetic field to stimulate the emission of microwaves, very much like a MRI but tuned to emit a different frequency. Basically, inducing the food to emit* microwaves instead of absorbing them. Would require a dump to get rid of the microwaves to prevent re-absorbtion, but hey, details can always be worked out later...

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  2. Re:Farnsworth by homey+of+my+owney · · Score: 1

    Can you imagine the Beano commercials?

  3. Biggest Loser by DoomHamster · · Score: 2

    Sweet! Now I can not only see fat people working out in HD but I can smell them sweating too!

    1. Re:Biggest Loser by ByOhTek · · Score: 3, Funny

      And don't forget the new joys of porn...

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    2. Re:Biggest Loser by RussR42 · · Score: 1

      "Of course not honey! I was watching a fishing show, I swear!"

  4. Really? by SilverHatHacker · · Score: 3, Funny

    With all the crap that's on TV now...

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    1. Re:Really? by obergfellja · · Score: 1

      on the next episode of Futurama....

    2. Re:Really? by danomac · · Score: 1

      When I read the summary, I immediately thought of an episode of Dirty Jobs where they were in a sewage treatment plant. Everything on TV looked like chocolate, but Mike Rowe was saying it was a good thing you couldn't smell it...

      A TV that emits smells really isn't needed. I wonder why they're even bothering to develop it. One of the best things is you can't smell whatever they're filming.

  5. The question remains: WHY? by spiffmastercow · · Score: 2

    Can you seriously think of any movie where you'd want to experience every smell?

    1. Re:The question remains: WHY? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Not yet, but you are thinking small and locking into the old way.

      Assuming this is good and works.

      You could have a show on flowers and smell them, or a show in perfumes, or give an example to someone learning chemistry what a reaction may smell like. Or sue it as an alarm system for the deaf and blind..or the arise of new puzzle games where scent is a clue.

      Hell, I could think of 100's of uses. Ironically I can not think of how to make money from them

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    2. Re:The question remains: WHY? by AdamThor · · Score: 2

      Advertisement:
      Here, have a smell of our food or personal scent product, wouldn't you like to buy it?

      Advertisers are the only people I can imagine wanting something like this.

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    3. Re:The question remains: WHY? by grumbel · · Score: 1

      Could take a while till movies would be designed in such a way to make use of it, if ever, after all one of nice things with them is that they can show you all crazy stuff while you sit at a safe distance, smell could bring you a good bit closer then would be comfortable. I think the most likely use for Smell-o-Vision would be advertisment, as it could make all those pleasant pictures of food and stuff make smell even more pleasant. And as far as I know, it already is used in shop malls for that purpose for years.

    4. Re:The question remains: WHY? by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Can you seriously think of any movie where you'd want to experience every smell?

      Scent of a Woman?

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    5. Re:The question remains: WHY? by Nerzhul · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course not EVERY smell, but this could become a nice stylistic device to increase immersion.

      Just imagine a scene in a forest or at the ocean where you can actually smell the wet earth or the salt. Done right, this would be much more exciting than that 3D thing...

    6. Re:The question remains: WHY? by hedwards · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't use every smell available in every film. The way I imagine it being used is more like music. Most of the time it's in the background barely noticed as things progress, but from time to time taking center stage.

      It's been known for some time that scents have a powerful connection to the human mind, and I can totally see that being used to create a more immersive experience, especially if 3D technology keeps advancing.

      Plus, if we ever develop the technology for a genuine holodeck we're really going to want smells as well.

    7. Re:The question remains: WHY? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Natalie Portman: The Motion Picture

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    8. Re:The question remains: WHY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "For a small recurring fee, you can disable the Shit-Smell Safety feature of your TV."

    9. Re:The question remains: WHY? by dev.null.matt · · Score: 1
      Back in college, I used to watch TV over at a friend's place. The TV had the green emitter burned out or something of the sort. Usually, you wouldn't notice it, but it made food look really nasty, especially burgers, which looked like they were served on nasty, brown lettuce.

      Anyways, I wonder if not changing the scent packets or w/e often enough would result in something similarly un-appetizing.

    10. Re:The question remains: WHY? by thetoastman · · Score: 1

      Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
      Sin City

      Just thinking out loud . . . .

    11. Re:The question remains: WHY? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Can you seriously think of any movie where you'd want to experience every smell?

      The scent of a woman?

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    12. Re:The question remains: WHY? by chinton · · Score: 1

      Imagine Lost before they get into the Hatch... Do you really want to know what Hurley smelled like after a month-and-a-half in the tropical heat with no shower?

    13. Re:The question remains: WHY? by TheCouchPotatoFamine · · Score: 1

      if you could duplicate the smell from the device, why buy the perfume? This has no point for TV.. but if you could dial-a-perfume, well, now you're talking!

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    14. Re:The question remains: WHY? by d0nju4n · · Score: 1

      Can you seriously think of any movie where you'd want to experience every smell?

      No, not me personally. But this will give much more hilarity to those Two Girls, One Cup reaction videos! Imagine the reaction when grandma actually gets to smell along!

    15. Re:The question remains: WHY? by psithurism · · Score: 1

      Can you seriously think of any movie where you'd want to experience every smell?

      Anything on the food network.

      Actually, as a rather smell oriented person, it would greatly increase my immersion in pretty much any movie and I would be all over this if it was cheaper. I'm sure I'm not alone on this either.

    16. Re:The question remains: WHY? by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

      Apocalypse Now (napalm), Rambo (especially the scene where he is dipped into a vat of pig shit), Superstar (now we can all smell her pits), and The Big Labowski (for the contact buzz).

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    17. Re:The question remains: WHY? by That+Guy+From+Mrktng · · Score: 1

      Yes, we love uninteresting, trendy and useless tech that could differentiate or help us sell a campaign or two, after the fad passes, the tech get deprecated. The scientists got some money licensing the tech, we got some money rebooting and old campaign "now with odor" and consumers get a bit of novelty in their daily advertising routine. Then we get the tact-o-vision and rinse and repeat.

      Now, as a consumer and even if I'm not a gamer, odors would be useful in games. Obviously someone will adapt this for PC or mobiles, food and related websites will benefit from this.

      Anybody knows if this work as a "scent mixer" or just as a "stock scent gun". If it's the former I'll predict it will be successful, if it's the former, well, all garden|restaurant|war scenes will smell the same, novelty will wear of quickly.

    18. Re:The question remains: WHY? by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

      If that thing can realistically reproduce the smell of your food, your food is probably some highly processed, additive-laden ScrotumBurger(tm). The thing about real food, though, is that it is not perfectly consistent. Taste, smell, texture - all have nuances depending on the ingredients you use. Great for industrial style advertising, I give you that. I prefer my food to be real, though. This would be just another tool to push industrial food-lookalikes. And FSM knows, we have enough of that crap.

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    19. Re:The question remains: WHY? by sincewhen · · Score: 1

      You could have a show on flowers and smell them

      But you wouldn't be smelling the flowers, you would be smelling an approximation of their odour, which is a bit sad really.

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    20. Re:The question remains: WHY? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Just stand by the TV and get the scent for free

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  6. I smell by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $5000/gallon refill bottles, inkjet cartridge style. While a neat idea - how do they propose to co-ordinate the speed of diffusion of the smells through the room - with fans or something? Or will it become mandatory to sit exactly X distance from your TV in order for the system to work? The device should go in the remote control you keep next to your chair/couch/bed, not behind the television on the other side of the room.

    Also this has the potential to backfire tremendously. While we humans are not anywhere near as dependent on our sense of smell as other creatures, smell has played a fundamental part in evolution and is wired into a very primitive part of our brains. The reaction to smell is subjective, and smells deemed unpleasant or linked to unpleasant memories will quickly lead to people ripping these devices out and throwing them away. If you think you have trouble with epileptics and certain cartoons, wait till you have people throwing up or flying into rage fits because of smells.

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    1. Re:I smell by DanTheStone · · Score: 1

      Or allergic reactions. Certain smells, especially certain colognes, can give me migraines. You can bet they'd be on the forefront of using the technology if it were available.

    2. Re:I smell by vlm · · Score: 1

      Or allergic reactions. Certain smells, especially certain colognes, can give me migraines. You can bet they'd be on the forefront of using the technology if it were available.

      Beer before the big night out, smells like nectar of the gods.

      Beer after waaay too much of the big night out, smells like insta-vomit.

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    3. Re:I smell by StripedCow · · Score: 1

      Isn't it possible to orthogonalize the space? For printing we need only 3 primary colors (or 4 if you count black).

      Wouldn't it be possible to get a similarly small set of "primary odors"?

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    4. Re:I smell by wjousts · · Score: 1

      No. Despite centuries of trying, nobody has identified a set of primary smells. People still aren't sure how the nose even manages the trick of smelling in the first place.

    5. Re:I smell by stillnotelf · · Score: 1

      Or will it become mandatory to sit exactly X distance from your TV in order for the system to work?

      Well, they're currently trying to get us to buy into 3D TV which requires exactly this. Actually, that's a good idea - you can embed the odormaker IN THE GLASSES, which ensures it's next to your nose and gets rid of all the diffusion and lingering-odor problems.

    6. Re:I smell by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      Odors are not light. The sense of smell is designed to inform of the presence of certain chemicals (whether as a warning or as an enticement). Therefore, the sensory receptors for smell respond to a wide range of chemicals that often have little or no relation to each other.

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    7. Re:I smell by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Great, here, have your 15lb set of eye-glasses. Remember if your partner wants a pair they're only $999 each :)

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    8. Re:I smell by karnal · · Score: 1

      Well, I personally have never had trouble with epileptics.

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    9. Re:I smell by stillnotelf · · Score: 1

      We're already having to sit exactly in one place for the 3D glasses to work - perhaps they'll be like those 50-cents-a-use tourist binocular emplacements and they attach firmly to the couch...?

    10. Re:I smell by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      50 cents? I remember when they cost a dime! Get off my lawn!

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  7. Who wants this? by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    Every couple of years, another one of these devices is offered up for sale. Why does this keep coming around? Is there really a demand for artificial scents with every TV commercial? Do we really want to be smell-o-vision while we're watching The Hangover?

    Seriously, if you think this is a great idea, please reply and tell us all why...

    1. Re:Who wants this? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      A) it's great for advertisers.
      B) Some nature shows
      C) Scent puzzlers.
      D) Custom scents.
      E) The ability to smell things on other planets. What does mars smell like?

      Why does slashdot think that this sort of thing would be on all the time, an for every show?

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    2. Re:Who wants this? by vlm · · Score: 2

      E) The ability to smell things on other planets. What does mars smell like?

      The inside of a vacuum tube, pretty close.

      Or if you "cheat" and imagine it compressed up to 1 bar, then still very much like nothing. Not much organics there, not much sulfur, its going to be like the inside of a mylar helium balloon except blander.

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    3. Re:Who wants this? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      You're right, OTOH, something is giving off a gas.

      However, it was an example to illustrate a use for 'distance smelling'.

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    4. Re:Who wants this? by jeremyp · · Score: 2

      E) The ability to smell things on other planets. What does mars smell like?

      Why does slashdot think that this sort of thing would be on all the time, an for every show?

      as long as you don't make me smell Uranus.

      I'm sorry, Fry, but astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all.

      Oh. What's it called now?

      Urectum. Here, let me locate it for you.

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    5. Re:Who wants this? by wjousts · · Score: 1

      Yep. Every few years they insist there's a huge untapped consumer market for this and then they disappear without a trace. See iSmell and Trisenx for two examples.

    6. Re:Who wants this? by wjousts · · Score: 1

      A) it's great for advertisers.

      An often trotted out use, but how exactly? Considering that you have to physically send the smell to the consumer in the first place, isn't it easier just to tell them to smell the thing on paper (like in magazines) rather than tell them to put it in some expensive Rube Goldberg machine to do the same thing?

    7. Re:Who wants this? by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      You're thinking perfume advertisers. Think fast-food instead: if Pizza Hut could attach the smell of a pizza to their ad, I expect the number of orders will go up dramatically.

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    8. Re:Who wants this? by wjousts · · Score: 1

      No, I'm not. There is no reason why a pizza smell couldn't be put on paper for a consumer to smell. It's a much simpler and cheaper solution.

      Also, I hate pizza!

  8. Re:Can't belive it can work... by Veggiesama · · Score: 1

    Wow, all these years I managed to avoid seeing the goatse.cx guy, priding myself on my resilience to clicking on random image links from friends and trolls alike, taking comfort in the fact that I could identify a shock JPG based on a few lines of pixels while the holding the clipped window at the edge of my screen, and yet... now it's all for naught.

  9. Bear Grylls by hjf · · Score: 1

    Bear Grylls and smell-o-vision? Better drink my own piss.

    1. Re:Bear Grylls by jimmerz28 · · Score: 1

      I'd like to smell that dirty boy any day.

    2. Re:Bear Grylls by wjousts · · Score: 1

      Actually, he'd probably smell of the fancy herbal shampoo and body wash he used that morning while staying in the fancy Marriott hotel between shooting his "survival" show.

  10. Primary Problem by meerling · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it doesn't have a method of removing the smells, it will fail like all the others.
    (You do know these things have been failing since something like the 1950s, right?)

    I read the article, and it sounds like they don't have a solution for this. Heck, they even talk about using coffee beans between testing smells to act as a nasal palette cleanser. I'd guess from that little tidbit that not only have they not solved the problem, but have definitely encountered it in use and have no clue what to do.

    1. Re:Primary Problem by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      I'd guess from that little tidbit that not only have they not solved the problem, but have definitely encountered it in use and have no clue what to do.

      They do have a solution -- include a free bag of coffee with each unit.

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    2. Re:Primary Problem by tazan · · Score: 1

      That was my immediate thought. I'd be OK with the smell of rotting flesh during one scene of a movie. But, I'm not excited about the house smelling like that for an indefinite period of time.

  11. Re:Can't belive it can work... by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    Warning - the above link goes to Goatse.cx.

  12. Finally... by otaku244 · · Score: 1

    A technology that will make CSI *almost* worth watching.

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    1. Re:Finally... by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      A technology that will make CSI *almost* worth watching.

      All they need to do is write a GUI around it using Visual Basic. They can do it in less than an hour, otherwise they'll miss the end of the show.

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  13. Charming, but pointless by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's an amusing gimmick, but they don't seem to have solved the problems that have plagued scent delivery systems before: odors don't evaporate that quickly. Audio and video disappear the instant you stop creating them, but odors linger. That's a problem of the room, not the device.

    Devices like this have been discussed hundreds of times before, and I'm not quite sure what makes this one "practical". I imagine it's some great bit of engineering that lets them carry 10,000 individual scents and deliver them quickly, and I'm sure that's a neat trick.

    It might even be handy for some applications in flavor and fragrance labs: punch in a formula, get out a sample instantly rather than having to drag out all of the source materials and mix them up. That's tedious and time-consuming work, and if you have to tweak, you generally have to start over.

    1. Re:Charming, but pointless by myrdos2 · · Score: 1

      What about a vent?

    2. Re:Charming, but pointless by wjousts · · Score: 1

      It might even be handy for some applications in flavor and fragrance labs: punch in a formula, get out a sample instantly rather than having to drag out all of the source materials and mix them up. That's tedious and time-consuming work, and if you have to tweak, you generally have to start over.

      Or it would be, but it doesn't appear to mix or even allow proportional control of the single aromas. So really, it's equivalent of opening a pre-mixed bottle.

    3. Re:Charming, but pointless by turtle+graphics · · Score: 1

      Yes - the smells won't leave the room. They should design a "personal Smell-O-Vision" that you wear. Or better still, just get a bio-implant that triggers the scent receptors directly.

    4. Re:Charming, but pointless by jfengel · · Score: 2

      A vent certainly helps, but if you've ever opened up a window in a musty room, you'll find that the problem doesn't evaporate immediately.

      This proved a big problem for smell-o-vision in theaters, which are REALLY big spaces. They tried installing huge fans, but it was noisy and not effective enough.

      Obviously a living room is smaller than a theater, but it's still got a lot of surface for odor molecules to cling to. They tend to be much heavier than air, and often partly ionized, so they cling to fabrics easily. The nose is ridiculously sensitive, and the little bits coming off the fabric will muddy new odors.

      You can space it out over time, so that one odor has a chance to dissipate, but that seems kind of counter to the point.

    5. Re:Charming, but pointless by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 1

      It's an amusing gimmick, but they don't seem to have solved the problems that have plagued scent delivery systems before: odors don't evaporate that quickly. Audio and video disappear the instant you stop creating them, but odors linger. That's a problem of the room, not the device.

      Since this is discussed in relation to TV, yes, it's a problem with the device too. It's not merely a question of the scent lingering when you turn off the TV; if the scene changes or you switch channels and have two conflicting scents (A bakery and a war-torn battlefield) that hang in the air with equal weight--or even 2:1 or 3:1--it could easily ruin any sense of immersion you might have had.

      It might be an interesting way to do marketing (imprinting a place with a custom scent), especially in a mall, convention hall, etc, but dynamic content is going to be problematic.

    6. Re:Charming, but pointless by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      I think the problem will be lack of demand as well. Only cologne/perfume is marketed by smell.

      Someone suggests this will be used as background music, maybe like the main girl enters the movie for the first time and you get a pleasant scent that sorta becomes her signature.... but if smell was so hot at selling, wouldn't they have used it in low tech applications already? Perhaps a slight wiff from a movie poster, or those displays at a theater?

      Maybe it becomes a real art in a couple decades, where you walk by a Superman display, and Superman gives off some type of manly pheromones that attracts the ladies and men look at the beautiful love interest who has some lady pheromones and slight hint of some perfume to attract them.

      But I'm just not seeing it. About the only time scent enticed me was with food. Especially go to a bakery (more in Europe than USA, but sometimes US too), and you can smell the fresh baked bread emanating out from the building, it just reels me in. I think fresh rolls served before dinner at some restaurants serve a similiar purpose. That would be a relatively low-tech smell technology, and I'm surprised more restaurants don't use it - either by natural or artificial means. Buildings are sometimes so sealed these days, you don't get anything from outside the building. Could be a real opportunity.

    7. Re:Charming, but pointless by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Actually, scent is used a LOT in retail. Not just in the perfume counter: you can hire companies to design a signature scent for your store. It's basically a big Glade air freshener, much simpler than this device.

      It works for a whole store. It may not work so well in a public place, where movie posters are displayed, but there's a good chance that there's already a smell there. Not all of that popcorn smell comes from the popcorn machine. Really.

    8. Re:Charming, but pointless by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they could build 'em into 3D glasses...

    9. Re:Charming, but pointless by Dastardly · · Score: 1

      Probably not a good thing, but immersive Dirty Jobs. Who would not want to have the smell of an empty sewage treatment tank in their living room while watching Mike Rowe replace the lift pump.

    10. Re:Charming, but pointless by DedTV · · Score: 1

      That's exactly the problem. Making smells has been easy enough for decades. The hard part has always been getting rid of them.

      I've seen many attempts at using smell-o-vision systems. Most have been in theaters which used fans and such to try and pull the scent out but invariably, either half the audience doesn't ever get the scent or they all quickly start to overlap and become a complete mess of smells.

      The only place I've ever seen it work is with things like the Disney attraction "Soarin' Over California". It uses fans set directly in front of the rider to individually blow scent into their faces so the scent reaches each rider and which helps clear the scent away for the next one once they stop delivering the scent. It also has a massive amount of exhaust pulling air out of the room so the scents don't linger and overlap. It works because the nature of the ride allows for a constant breeze being in your face and because it is housed in an area with massive amounts of exhaust capability. That's just not something that is feasible in a typical home or existing theaters.

  14. Is this for the Sheeple who... by MoldySpore · · Score: 1

    ...want to know what Snooki smells like after a night at the bar?

    I'm sorry but this sounds like and even bigger gimmick than 3D.

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    1. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by zero0ne · · Score: 1

      How about all those awesome smells from CSI :)

    2. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by vlm · · Score: 1

      How about all those awesome smells from CSI :)

      how bout Pr0n?

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    3. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      ...want to know what Snooki smells like after a night at the bar?

      My guess would be a mixture of baby diapers, puke, and rotting garbage, possibly with a dash of musty gym socks.

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    4. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by BinarySolo · · Score: 1

      Well, it's an absolutely killer idea if you want to watch Food Network... other than that, I got nothing. But just thinking about watching Iron Chef America with smell is making my mouth water.

    5. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by Combatso · · Score: 1

      My guess would be a mixture of baby diapers, puke, and rotting garbage, possibly with a dash of musty gym socks.

      he said 'AFTER' the bar.

    6. Re:Is this for the Sheeple who... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      I give you that but then just add urinal to that list and it should be complete.

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  15. No by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Just because you can doesn't mean you should do it.

    1. Re:No by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Just because you're imagination is limited, doesn't mean we shouldn't.

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    2. Re:No by fermat1313 · · Score: 1

      Just because you're imagination is limited, doesn't mean we shouldn't.

      Just because someone doesn't like this, or doesn't think this is a good idea doesn't mean their imagination is limited. I can imagine lots of uses for this, and in some limited areas it might have an application. But would I ever install a system like this in my home? Probably not. I just don't think it would lead to an improvement in my enjoyment of a movie or TV show.

      I see this as somewhat akin to 3D technology. Yeah it's there, and some people like it. Personally I hate 3D and don't see movies in 3D, and never plan to view movies in 3D at home. Doesn't mean I lack imagination, just means I have my own preference.

  16. Now if only... by squidflakes · · Score: 1

    ...someone would invent some sort of death clock. That would put some young whipper snappers in their place.

  17. Latency problems by Veggiesama · · Score: 1

    In the living room, light and sound both travel from the screen to the eyes and ears at an incredible speed, which gives us the illusion that both video and audio are occurring simultaneously, no matter where we are in the room.

    However, these chemical reactions that produce odor take a bit longer to reach the viewer (smeller?). How long, I don't know. Assuming the device is centralized and not strapped to each viewer's nose, different viewers will experience the odor at different times depending on their positioning in the room. TFA also mentions that the smell of coffee beans can be used to clear an odor, but how long would this take? If the scene shifts from the sultan's filthy dungeon to his sexy perfumed harem, how would this product handle the dissonance caused by the high latency time of clearing an old odor and releasing a new odor?

  18. Re:Can't belive it can work... by paiute · · Score: 1

    You're not even trying anymore. At least link to the goatse picture with the rickroll video pasted into the hole.

    No, I don't have the link.

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  19. 200*100=20000 by petteyg359 · · Score: 1

    200 X-axis controllers and 100 on the Y-axis that could selectively activate each of the 10,000

    What happened to the other 10,000?

    1. Re:200*100=20000 by camperdave · · Score: 2

      It's stereo. After all, you've got two nostrils

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    2. Re:200*100=20000 by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      The others are odor capture devices for audience feedback. Critics have already compared it to George Orwell's "Smelloscreens" from an early draft of Nineteen Eighty-Four.

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  20. So the stink'o tron makes the front page. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But nobody notices Samsung's 19" prototype transparent flexible amoled screen prototype announcement on the same site?

    What would you rather have. SmellyTelly or small portable rollup/flexible displays?

  21. Manufacturers already salivating at the prospect. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    All those printer cartridge makers who force you to replace the whole cartridge when you run out of just one color are salivating at the prospect of selling a replacement scent cartridge with 20000 different tanks.

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  22. Finally, Emeril... by uzd4ce · · Score: 1

    ... will hopefully ease off the "Smell-o-vision" joke

  23. Polyester? by John3 · · Score: 1

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082926/

    With "smell-o-vision" you would avoid the need for the scrath-and-sniff Odorama card.

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  24. Like all new technologies... by mark-t · · Score: 1

    ... this will really start to take off once there is an application for porn.

  25. Interesting psychology but need better stories by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    The smells would not have to be that strong, certain odors even low level can have tremendous impact on the psychology and how it would effect emotions. However, I would like to see more investment in writers and creativity. Take a look at the latest rehash of reality shows or going back old comic books from the 20th century for ideas (latest being Green Lantern).

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  26. Re:Farnsworth by camperdave · · Score: 1

    I am *NOT* watching Dirty Jobs on that.

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  27. Re:I thought I was at Slashdot by treeves · · Score: 1

    Maybe they're aspiring to a Pulitzer prize.

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  28. With my smello-vision and my 3D glasses... by plsenjy · · Score: 1

    I can finally feel like I'm doing shit.

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  29. Fear Factor. by JustAnotherIdiot · · Score: 1

    All the times I watched that show, the host from time to time would comment that they needed something like this to portray to the people at home just how terrible the things they're eating were. Now he might get his wish.

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  30. Too much variation by treeves · · Score: 1

    in the concentration needed of different compounds in order to smell them. Some compounds can be smelled at ppb levels while other take much more. So some "compartments" would make do with just a few mg of a compound while others might need much more. Also, the volatility and diffusivity of different compounds would make it hard to control how much gets delivered to your nose. I suppose one could heat the compartments individually as needed but the first point seems hard to overcome.

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  31. handful of shows that MIGHT use this effectively by rkchang · · Score: 1

    I can possibly see Food Network and other food-oriented shows possibly using this feature. Home and Garden channel too? Past that, I see limited appeal. Next thing, they'll come out with Taste-o-Vision. Do we really want people licking their TV screens?

  32. Re:Farnsworth by Firehed · · Score: 1

    I was just thinking... 10000 scents, and yet you'll always be replacing the entire block of nearly full cartridges (like those tri-color inkjets) because it ran out of fart/BO/feces/urine.

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  33. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  34. Practical? by Roogna · · Score: 1

    There is nothing practical about making me smell whatever horrible smell they'd want to send me over a TV... ever.

  35. I'll take Cheeses For $800 Alex by NotSanguine · · Score: 1

    Ding! Ding! Ding! It's an olfactory daily double!

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  36. Note to early adopters by Combatso · · Score: 1

    do not rent the Terrance and Phillip movie

  37. Of all the things I want my TV to do... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    this isn't one of them!
    Not even close.
    Besides, what's next? People with anosmia requiring close captioning to describe the smell?

    This is an excellent example of, just because it's possible doesn't mean it's a good idea.

  38. Re:Farnsworth by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Behold as we perfect the mousetrap, and also laugh in the face of God himself...but most importantly perfect the mousetrap.

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  39. Too bad by next_ghost · · Score: 1

    I guess Harold Zoid's career is over then...

  40. Coming up next, feel-o-vision by Combatso · · Score: 1

    get ready for a punch in the face

    1. Re:Coming up next, feel-o-vision by Sxooter · · Score: 1

      Stay tuned for our feature presentation, Deep Throat

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  41. The *next* -o-Vision by ezsailor · · Score: 1

    Next up, we have Taste-o-Vision. *Now* who wants to watch porn....

  42. Star Wars in Smell-D by Bobfrankly1 · · Score: 1

    With the re-re-remake of the original Star Wars Trilogy, you can experience your favorite scenes like never before! Enjoy the musky unbathed scent of a "walking carpet"! Writhe in fear and stench in the garbage compactor! Remember the revelation of Luke's father with the smell of cauterized flash floating through your living room! Ever wonder what ewoks smell like? Now you can find out in Star Wars Smell-D!

  43. Like a genie... by _0xd0ad · · Score: 1

    It's easy to get smells out of a box.

    Then the box eventually starts to smell like that gum your mom kept inside her purse...

  44. Re:Farnsworth by Silfax · · Score: 1

    I am *NOT* watching Dirty Jobs on that.

    Dirty Jobs no - Food Network yes.

    The only problem is that I know that my "smell-o-vision" will always be out of chocolate

  45. But but but by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    There are people that cannot smell in stereo! What about them?!

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    1. Re:But but but by chinton · · Score: 1

      Stereo? Get real, man. You need 5.1 Dobly Surround-Smell.

  46. Re:handful of shows that MIGHT use this effectivel by O-Deka-K · · Score: 1

    I hope that commercials don't support this feature. But of course they will...

    Dad: Hey kids, wanna go to McDonald's for dinner?
    Kid (to brother/sister): See, TOLD you that PVR'ing McDonald's commercials was a good idea...
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    Dude (to Other Dude): Whoa, my pizza tastes like LOBSTER now!
    Other Dude (to first Dude): Eww, now it tastes like cat food!
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    Kid: Mom!! Sparky keeps trying to eat the TV!
    Mom: I told you not to watch TV while the dog's in the house!
    ---

  47. Re:handful of shows that MIGHT use this effectivel by badmojo17 · · Score: 1

    Given how close our senses of taste and smell are, a taste-o-vision wouldn't be much of an upgrade. You're dead on with the Food Network, though. Imagine how much this would grow their audience. Instead of being told how great food tastes, you could get a great approximation by being given the smell. Texture is important, too, but this would be fantastic for the network.

  48. Zapping by Arlet · · Score: 1

    What is going to happen when I quickly zap through a few dozen channels ?

    1. Re:Zapping by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Think of flipping through all the commercials. Baby diapers, Viagra and clones, coffee, Dr. Scholls, bathroom cleaners, feminine hygiene products, pet deodorants, ...

      It would be like living in a college dorm again!

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  49. Been there, done that. by chinton · · Score: 1

    I went to college with several people capable of generating 10,000 possible odors -- each accompanied by their own unique sound effect.

  50. yuck by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

    now my tv can fart.

  51. I'll be more impressed... by Ynsats · · Score: 1

    ...when someone comes up with a Smelloscope.

  52. Re:terrible name by wjousts · · Score: 1

    They don't. The Angewandte Chemie article title is "An X–Y Addressable Matrix Odor-Releasing System Using an On–Off Switchable Device". Nowhere in the article (which I'm reading now) does it mention smell-o-vision.

  53. Re:Wife enters room... by wjousts · · Score: 1

    Several other posters have complained about the "carry-over" effect with respect to moving from one scene to another, and I thought "meh, whatever". But you sir have convinced me of the real danger involved with carry over.

    "What!?! No honey, I was watching the fishing channel!"

  54. Didn't is already get pumped and dumped in 1999... by Super+Dave+Osbourne · · Score: 1

    Right around when we were all to be partying like it was 1999? There was in the hype of the .com boom, and subsequent bust the promotional idea that this was a great idea and someone came out with a 4000 smell combo unit for the market. Nobody wanted to smell that crap, so it never sold. I think the biggest market is to test the porn industry smells, get them perfectionarily perfected and then it is no longer a proof of concept vapor ware IPO POS.

  55. Re:Can't wait to smell "True Blood" and "Swamp Thi by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 1

    I'm looking forward to Salo!

  56. The demise of Survivor by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

    Hopefully, this will spell the end of reality shows like Survivor. Stick a bunch of people in a remote wilderness and film them running (and sweating) through awful challenges... then transmit the result via smell-o-vision. "What's that stench?!! Oh, not Survivor again! Every time you watch it we need to whip out the air fresheners for the rest of the week. Turn it off now!!!"

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    1. Re:The demise of Survivor by profplump · · Score: 1

      There's no technology available to record the actual scents -- it would all have to be programmed, like sound effects.

  57. Hacked? by GrantRobertson · · Score: 1

    Oh, I so cannot wait till this thing is hacked! Make your neighbors house reek when they have loud parties. Make all football games smell like old jock straps.

  58. Humans recreate smell terribly by flimflammer · · Score: 1

    Just think of all the air fresheners, perfumes, candles, and other things that humans have created to give off artificial scent. Do they ever smell like their labels? There are only a few scant smells that have ever accurately been recreated.

    I don't knock the technology behind this. I just knock humans ability to put enough proper smells into the thing to make it function and make it believable.

    If it works, it makes me think of that aviation ride at Disneyland. That was always my favorite, and they did a pretty good job on the smell part of that ride. Granted they needed to recreate very few smells.

  59. Re:Farnsworth by torgis · · Score: 1

    I was just thinking... 10000 scents, and yet you'll always be replacing the entire block of nearly full cartridges (like those tri-color inkjets) because it ran out of fart/BO/feces/urine.

    Switch from Adam Sandler movies to almost anything else and quadruple the life of your scent cartridges!

  60. For some reason I read this as... by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

    "Political 'Smell-o-Vision' System Being Developed" and thought to myself, "How hard can that be? It just needs a crap scent to work."

  61. Re:Inquiring minds... [bacon?] by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Bacon . . . . . and Rachael Ray!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. Re:Farnsworth by black+soap · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, my first thought was how this will be abused by commercials as well. And you thought it was bad when they were just too loud.

    I wonder how many of those scent concentrates are safe? Lots of things are OK in small quantities, but over time not so much. Also, people will start to associate the artificial TV-scent (and we'll need an acronym for it that doesn't involve "HD") with things more than the actual real-world smells.

  63. Cross-article tie-in by black+soap · · Score: 1

    Will they manipulate the magnetic fields so my sense of direction is altered with the images, as well?

  64. Of all the words I could use to describe this.... by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 1

    ..."Practical" isn't in the top 1000.

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  65. hmm by Scotty+L · · Score: 1

    Can anyone smell petrol?

  66. Re:The jokes by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

    And yet you couldn't come up with a single one...

  67. Up in Smoke by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

    I can't believe I didn't find "Cheech" or "Chong" with my browser's search. My step-brother saw Up in Smoke in the theater when he was ten or so. Some people were smoking in front, and he said, "They have smell-o-vision!"

    It's just a matter of time before movies start adding smell tracks and George Lucas has another excuse to re-release the Star Wars movies again. Hmm, "Smellies!"

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  68. Re:Farnsworth by progliberty · · Score: 1

    Oh really? What about the horrifying scene in "8 Crazy Nights" with the deer?

  69. Re:Farnsworth by progliberty · · Score: 1

    Oh you meant FROM Adam Sandler movies. :)