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Opera 11.50 Released
An anonymous reader writes "With a shiny new version of Presto that's apparently up to 20% faster, cool tweaks to Speed Dial, and a bunch of other features and bug fixes, the crazy Norwegians have just launched the latest version of desktop Opera."
20% faster, 20% cooler, and 30% more gray than before.
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I was hoping that this would bring WebGL to the mainline Opera. The shipping Safari should be WebGL enabled soon and Chrome and Firefox are already here.
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I downloaded it shortly after the download count exceeded the crew of the Death Star. As of right now, they're well past Rebecca Black dislikes
Seems like the most important part was excluded - the download counter! http://www.opera.com/
Currently, more people have downloaded Opera 11.50 than have disliked Rebecca Black!
Whatever it is, it's notablog.
Lots of bugs left in it. I'm still using it, because it is insanely fast, but I hope they release the next version in a week.
Did they fix the random freezing? No matter what computer I installed Opera on it would always freeze at random times. The interface wouldn't accepted input, it would just still there and then suddenly come back to life a minute later.
Now that Tetzchner left, who is going to swim to Norway at for 1 millionth download?
This is sort of unrelated, but why do you have 60+ tabs open? I never have more than ten, and thats only when I'm wiki-crawling. I've always wondered why people have so many tabs open at the same time.
Funny may not give karma, but +5 Informative never made anyone snort coffee out their nose.
Op-what, now? Is that some sort of web browser or something?
I'll be honest, we're throwing science against the wall to see what sticks. -Cave Johnson
He likes to open each porn thumbnail in a new tab
Why not, we still get Linux news here.
"I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)
Why not, we still get Linux news here.
At least we haven't seen OpenBSD news in a while...
I don't know how many times I have installed and abandoned Opera. I really, really want to like it!
This time it downloaded and installed easily on my Ubuntu box, but when launched it declared that Flash was not installed on my system.
Of course, it is.
Still, clicked through the Adobe website, clicked the "Download" Flash link, and... well, nothing. It just sat there.
Yet again, Chrome wins.
(Tho' I do love Opera on my Android phone)
Three Squirrels
I'm using Debian Squeeze which comes with Firefox 3.5 as default. I was happy with this browser, but I wanted latest and greatest so I upgraded first to 3.6 and then to 4. As much as I liked it, it was very slow - I'm not talking about academic javascript benchmark results, but stuff like opening heavy pages like GMail, or tab animations, various UI stuff, etc. None of it was deal breaking, but hey, after spending as much money on hardware as I have, I really expect things to fly. Instead, I had significant UI lags.
So, I tried Opera. It took some getting used to and it misses some options that I depended on on Iceweasel (namely, being able to not allow sites to define their own fonts), but I mostly found workarounds, and I must say I'm very happy with it.
Opera is much snappier than Firefox and Opera's QT integrates well into my XFCE environment with GTK+ gui style. I don't know what is the problem with firefox - bad 3d drivers (nvidia) or something else, but at this day and age, I really shouldn't have to suffer from slow UI.
I am still to try to replace Thunderbird with Opera's email, and I am looking forward to testing it.
How about a /. poll about the reasons for why Opera keeps having a very low user percentage after 15 years or development? Firefox and Chrome came from nowhere and succeeded, Opera has a small loyal user base and doesn't get any more than that. What I can remember about all those years of using Opera as a browser for compatibility tests is a lot of little details done in very peculiar and non standard ways that made the browser a little annoying to use. I've got a feeling that most of those issues have been fixed but still... look at that red Menu (I've got a blue desktop theme) and that O in my status bar which no other browser dares to touch.
Ok, that's it. Don't bash me too much for these ramblings.
Look. See? This is how you do it.
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In this case I am surprised he bothered to mention that. It sounds like bragging. I think Opera's problems take a lot less than 60 tabs to become apparent. I am an Opera user for over a decade. Nowadays I tend to have 5 to 10 tabs open at the most. And, even then, I experience a lot of slow down and generally terrible performance in the Windows version (same problems on XP Pro 32 bit, XP Home 32 bit, and 7 pro 64bit). I started to notice the problems with version 11 and since 11.50b1 came out I have reverted my Windows machines back to 10.63 for performance sake.
The XP Pro 32 bit machine is dual boot Ubuntu 11.04. On Ubuntu there is no performance issue for me. It really seems to be the case that they borked their Windows version somehow.
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They learned to work with bookmarks. And it's wonderful. There are also sessions if you really want it that way.
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I like them a lot, and I've been using them for ages. but with that new numbering scheme, it looks like FFox should overtake them in no time, and then I'll just have to switch ?
Plus, Opera are clearly pussies: .39 upgrades ? really ?
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If you use compliant CSS, yes it does:
http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/5042/gradients_demo.html
renders fine, for instance.
I think it's really Flash's fault. I've put "disable plugins" right in my adress bar, and disable them most of the time. I usually have about 20 open tabs, on an E-350. No more slowdowns. They should do an "enable plugins for 5 mins" options, so I wouldn't have to go back and re-disable them, though.
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
Me too ! It's funny, 'coz I'm bitching about Opera focusing too much on benchmarks, and not enough on features.
Especially they are in the best place to allow us to really synch browsers across OSes, formats... : open tabs ,cookies, position in page... Why on earth are they waiting for someone else to beat them to the punch ?
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
Seems like Opera ignores the anti-aliasing settings. I've switched anti aliasing off in both environments, but opera blurs ahead anyway.
And yet, it still can't render CSS3 colors correctly. What's the problem here? Wasn't Opera at the forefront of web standards compliance at one point?
This is sort of unrelated, but why do you have 60+ tabs open? I never have more than ten, and thats only when I'm wiki-crawling. I've always wondered why people have so many tabs open at the same time.
Laziness, convenience, and because it (somehow?) works fine in Opera. I often middle-click 10 links from a single page (e.g. search results on a shopping site), then 10 more (from the next page of search results), then go through the resulting 20 tabs.
I have just 15 open here (home), but at work there are probably about 35. My brother (on the rare occasion I see his computer) seems to have about 200 tabs open in Opera all the time, my mum about 100.
(Of my open tabs, four are the forgotten tabs of the search I did for a recipe earlier, three are the remaining interesting /. stories, five are documentation from a project I was working on months ago, ... you get the idea)
Turn off automatic zoom.
I thought that too. But I found the browser would actually lock up more with the plugins disabled. I read on the Opera forums about someone getting a performance boost from enabling plugins. I did that and saw a big difference. With them disabled, any time a plugin was requested, the browser locked. On a particularly grueling test page I found it would take up to 25 seconds more to load the page from an empty cache with plugins disabled than with them enabled.
That's on my windows computers only though. The same page on Ubuntu with plugins disabled would take less than half the time and enabling plugins slowed down the page loading.
Also, I have found that disabling plugins doesn't actually disable plugins. There is javascript code that can still load Flash content onto the page even if you disable plugins in Opera.
I've watched the requests the browser makes and tried to make test pages with different elements to see if I could intentionally trigger problems, but so far I haven't found any rhyme or reason to the performance issues.
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Well that is because the users couldn't figure out how to get X working. I don't think Slashdot will work well under lynx anymore.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
IMHO this would be terrible. I like Gmail as much as the next guy.. it's my primary e-mail "client" but the most common feature I use in Outlook that is missing is sort by column. I use it constantly. The excellent search feature in gmail is a poor substitute. Also turning the "from" e-mail address on an e-mail you read into a meaningful contact is quite difficult in Gmail in comparison to outlook.
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I've had similar problems with Opera ever since they introduced tab stacking. Before all the tabs would get so thin that I couldn't see the contents (I like the thumbnail sized tabs) so I'd eventually kill a few off to clear some space. Now that I can stack tabs, I just put stuff together (say all the relevant Java docs for a project) and compress it when I'm working on something else. Probably have around 50 open now, but only 12 tabs (including email) are visible.
Because it can scroll through a whole page of slashdot comments smoothly. On any zoom setting. Under both linux and windows. But no worries, Firefox fans, you'll get equal performance by FF34872e12.
Too bad hardware acceleration didn't make the cut yet. It was available in a test build though. I'm looking forward to their implementation of hardware acceleration - it uses OpenGL instead of Direct2D on Windows. I've had all kind of problems with Direct2D (namely, it doesn't seem to accelerate much of anything - not even supposedly basic stuff like scrolling).
Freedom is drinking a beer in the park when you're supposed to be at work.
... when they are open source.
Been using opera for good 5 years, but realized, even though it's tab & download management is much superior to other browsers, chrome (and/or firefox) are just easier to get on with, because they are essentially open. If competition can be open, why can't we?
Is the javascript whitelisting comparable to NoScript yet in terms of effectiveness and ease of use? Is there an equivalent to AdBlock Plus and Scrapbook? If a non-firefox browser would incorporate those features as standard and do it well, I would be happy to give them a try. Especially with Firefox's idiotic rapid release numbering scheme I am ready to try some alternatives.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
....often done with more thought and better execution.
Set a wallpaper with Opera in Windows go to your pictures folder and observed unstandard bmp files that do not show up right with Windows Picture Viewier. Never fixed forever...
As of now, Firefox has become so bloated that the only way I can rationalize why I bother with it is because of the robust addon support. That's it. I can no long say it's fast nor easy to use. I've been using Opera on and off, but in the end, I realize I can't survive the internet without AdBlock, Tamper Data, and Firebug, forcing me to come crawling back to the Fox.
Their GUI still looks horrible in OS X. Like a home made app by someone who never heard about the native UI. Besides that there is no real reason to use it. But still I try it every time, just for the fond memories I have of it. Back when Netscape 4 was horrible and Opera 3 ruled them all. And was worth to be payed ... yes, worth it.
"Freiheit ist immer auch die Freiheit des Andersdenkenden" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1871 - 1919
I'm currently using Opera 16, testing the new Time Travel function. It really works its wonders, I wonder if Chrome will implement this too in version 287. --Sent from my iBrainimplant