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AT&T: Meet the New US GSM Monopoly

itwbennett writes "Why should consumers care about the AT&T/T-mobile merger? Already, Verizon has dropped unlimited data plans and the US trails Japan, South Korea, and others in variety and performance of mobiles. Don't think for a second that those aren't the direct result this new monopoly, says blogger Tom Henderson. '...Those pesky State agencies that used to have regulatory authority has been usurped by the US Federal Government,' writes Henderson. 'This wasn't an accident. Who would you rather deal with, 43 different state regulatory authorities, or those convenient people on Capitol Hill?'"

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  1. Where's the "corruption" tag? by zooblethorpe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It certainly seems appropriate for this article.

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    1. Re:Where's the "corruption" tag? by Slack0ff · · Score: 3, Funny

      let's just throw the bill gates/borg icon on it too.

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    2. Re:Where's the "corruption" tag? by ArhcAngel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Politics

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  2. free market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure the free market will take care of this issue.

    1. Re:free market by CyprusBlue113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm, no, it is the regulation of the single tech spectrum that is exactly why other countries have better mobile infrastructure, not stupidly creating more islands of spectrum.

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    2. Re:free market by __Reason__ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      AT&T is a bit like the liquid metal terminator from Terminator 2. You can break it into little pieces, but somehow, eventually, it'll find a way to reassemble itself and become a monopoly again.

    3. Re:free market by Shatrat · · Score: 2

      My understanding is that the EU uses spectrum auctions and has fragmented frequency blocks like we do, they're just spread across more competing companies.
      With the M&A activity in the wireless sector it increasingly like the wireline sector did decades ago.
      When that monopoly was broken up and more carriers were allowed to set up shop long distance prices dropped from around .25 to .05 per minute within the decade and hundreds of regional and national carriers popped up.
      Wireless would be even easier to break up since there is no physical base of millions of miles of copper to divide up. The FCC would just need to lower the barriers to entry. Unfortunately too many politicians are already in the pockets of the big two end-game wireless providers, and too many people like yourself think that the answer is to give more power to those bought and paid for politicians by adding more regulation.

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    4. Re:free market by t2t10 · · Score: 2

      Contrary to what the GP implied, that quote is not from Adam Smith, it is one interpretation of his work. (I happen to think it's a good interpretation, but that's besides the point.)

  3. incoming calls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you, Americans are still paying for incoming calls and SMSes?

    1. Re:incoming calls by vranash · · Score: 2

      In a word: Yes. Thankfully I've got unlimited text now, but unless you want to spend 100+ dollars a month you won't have unlimited talk/text, and LIMITED data (5gb) will put you up to 150+ for a single user (family plans lower this slightly but not a whole lot. 70+ dollars per phone, plus 30 each for data. And that's T-Mobile/Verizon's prices, not ATT)

    2. Re:incoming calls by guruevi · · Score: 2

      Read the T-Mobile small print. The "unlimited" data is "unlimited" until 200MB (69.99 contract), 2GB (79.99 contract), 5GB (89.99 contract) or 10GB (119.99 contract) after which you'll be throttled to 50kbps speeds but they reserve the right to throttle or even block your data transfer whenever they feel necessary or use any data that is duplicated by their plans (such as VoIP, online messages etc.) or whenever you use a 'disproportionate' amount of data.

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    3. Re:incoming calls by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      If the situation was so dire why is it that the telecoms in most of the rest of the world seem perfectly able to survive such a burden and have cheaper prices to boot?

    4. Re:incoming calls by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      Great, so would you mind answering the question now? If it was such a burden on the telecoms, why do the ones outside of the US do just fine without being able to charge for incoming calls and charge less to boot?

  4. keep voting for them! by regimechange · · Score: 2

    Keep voting in the Republicans and Democrats! They clearly have your interests in mind!

    1. Re:keep voting for them! by ISoldat53 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We have a two party system. The Sold and the For Sale.

  5. Capitol Hill by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For all your one-stop shopping needs.

    Ever notice how few people are really paying attention? How along the campaign trail nobody ever asks an important question like, "Would you oppose an AT&T / T-Mobile merger which really harms competition in the US?"

    They had an Ohio farmer on the news, back when W was running for re-election, when asked which was more important, Social Issues or Economic Issues, the farmer said, "As long has be works to block abortion, he doesn't mind if a few eggs get broken." Really. Wonder how he's doing on that farm after the Bank Collapse. When are people going to wake up and realize they have put far too much focus on a social agenda and too little on Business and Economic issues which affect them to more devastating effect?

    I suppose someone, somewhere is fine with the merger, as long as their important Social Agenda gets lip service.

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  6. Verizon's unlimted... by spire3661 · · Score: 2

    ...never was unlimited. So spinning this into 'the end of Verizon's unlimited plan is spurred by ATT monopoly" is a pretty lame argument.

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  7. No competition? by JBMcB · · Score: 2

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers

    Just because they don't have stores on every street corner doesn't mean there aren't a hundred different wireless providers to choose from.

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    1. Re:No competition? by crow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, but how many of those are just resellers? Essentially, they a virtual carriers with roaming agreements with the ones that you've heard of. Some may have a small area of real service, but I doubt that many do.

    2. Re:No competition? by glassware · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up - this is the key.

      MVNO means "mobile virtual network operator", which describes someone who buys bandwidth from AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon and uses it to run their own brand of phones. All those little companies you see are basically MVNOs.

  8. Can't compare only cell phones by vijayiyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anybody on Slashdot actually travel? Prices in general of most goods are _way_ cheaper in the US than in Europe or Japan (I haven't been to South Korea). US taxes are relatively low. Why do I care if a cell phone bill is a few hundred bucks a year more?
    And then people miss the point that cell infrastructure scales both with population and with physical area. Someone has to pay for that.

  9. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Bullshit. I work for a telco in Finland, and covering a piece of land is as easy/hard in both as the average population density is in the same ballpark. I would even accept that covering rural America is harder, but by that logic most Americans in the cities should have the best broadband in the world. The real difference is that we have four national networks for a population of 5M and the competition is fierce. The regulator is here FOR the people.

    Every nation gets the government it deserves.

  10. In Russia.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In (Ex-Soviet) Russia, you can choose from MTS, MegaFon, Beeline, Tele2, or a few other GSM Providers.
    In China, you can choose from China Mobile (Easyown, GoTone, M-zone, Peoples, ZoNG), ChinaUnicom. (Yes, the main ones are state-owned)

    In the "Free" United states, you can choose any GSM provider you want, as long as you "want" to use the government-approved AT&T/T-mobile.

    So you say: "If there's customer demand, Capitalism shows another company will be created so competition remains..." Yeah Right. The State (FCC) owns 100% of the spectrum, and it's all been sold to AT&T T-Mobile. So exactly what GSM spectrum is available for competition?

    It's also the only country in the world that will put you in jail if you even /attempt/ to buy and import a Citroen C5 or a Citroen DS3 ("R", preferably) Automobile.
    Don't give me the safety line -- both of these cars are rated very well for both safety, and emissions. (Google NCAP) And they look cool too.

    I'm not feeling very "Free" as we celebrate our "Freedom" this weekend.

  11. Re:Sprint by neurocutie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sprint will not survive this buyout... even Hesse admits this...
    Either Sprint will be bought by Verizon, or Sprint will die a slow death, then be bought for pennies on the dollar.
    Sprint will be strangled by 1) high roaming costs, or NO roaming, which means poor coverage for its customers, who will then leave,
    2) handset freeze out, prime example being the iPhone which Sprint *still* cannot get,
    3) price war: AT&T and Verizon can just decide to wage a price war for a couple of years and decimate Sprint,
    4) landline/call termination obstruction and rate hikes, since between AT&T and Verizon, most of the landline are controlled by them, they can and will simply charge Sprint huge sums to allow Sprint consumers to call landlines. This is already a big cost for Sprint and it will get bigger.

  12. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by Manip · · Score: 2

    That would be a fair point, if the US had tons of small inter-state cellular companies, with a few big evil cross-state providers. But that isn't the situation. Fact is, almost NO small businesses are currently operating in the US cellular sector. There is almost no competition at all in the US, the big two just make agreements on territory so they can both keep their prices high.

    Honestly the EU isn't perfect but at least competition is healthy. The US has become so bad, the only solution I see at this stage is to make it illegal for a company to own both the core infrastructure and to also sell to the end consumer. That is what they did with the UK's BT monopoly. Broke it into three companies - consumer, wholesale, and Open Reach. And that was an massively successful route to take, with competition in the UK being extremely good.

  13. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by manekineko2 · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure how much water you argument holds when the worst European country in terms of telecom price/quality is still better than the best states in the US. Finland has a lower population density than the United States, and simultaneously better telcom.

    So while true that Europe is a patchwork of carriers across its different states, every state there is better than any state in the US.

  14. Blogger fail? by Evil.Bonsai · · Score: 2

    "Why should consumers care about the AT&T/T-mobile merger? Already, Verizon has dropped unlimited data plans and the US trails Japan, South Korea, and others in variety and performance of mobiles. Don't think for a second that those aren't the direct result this new monopoly", says blogger Tom Henderson. I'm pretty sure "Japan, South Korea, and others..." were far ahead of the US in mobile performance LONG before any merger talks came about.

  15. Yes, thanks to the Magic of the Free Market! by Benfea · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having a market dominated by a smaller number of larger companies is the ideal capitalist system according to rightist ideology. This is why they like mergers and hate it when antitrust laws are enforced. In this way, the few remaining companies don't have to deal with as much of that pesky "competition" thing, and through economies of scale they can deliver better goods for less money. At least, that's the excuses libertarians and conservatives usually give me.

    This is also part of the reason why I argue that they are not in fact capitalists, but rather neo-feudalists.

  16. Try Sprint by toadlife · · Score: 2

    For various reasons (one being the impending AT&T merger) I recently switched from T-Mobile to Sprint.

    They have plans that give you 500 minutes with unlimited text and data for 69.99 (59.99 + 10.00 smart phone addon).

    You have to sign up with this (not really) secret method to get the plan for 59.99...
    http://mcguireslaw.com/2008/07/16/psst-have-you-heard-about-everything-plus/

    With my wife constantly calling me and the long conversations I have with my Dad, at first I was afraid that 500 minutes would not be enough, but part of their plan is unlimited mobile to mobile and it applies to ANY mobile phone; even those from other carriers and it applies to incoming calls from mobiles.

    This month I used about 41 minutes of my 500.

    If the majority of people you talk to are on mobiles in the U.S., then I would look at Sprint.

    Their data network seems to be a little less robust than Verizon or At&Ts, but for the first time ever I have 3G in my rural area and can steam Pandora/Slacker on my way to work - something I could never dream of with T-Mobile and the EDGE/GPRS connections they provide outside of dense urban areas.

    Now I'm just hoping Sprint doesn't collapse as a result of the merger.

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  17. Depends where you are. by zooblethorpe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anybody on Slashdot actually travel? Prices in general of most goods are _way_ cheaper in the US than in Europe or Japan (I haven't been to South Korea). US taxes are relatively low. Why do I care if a cell phone bill is a few hundred bucks a year more? And then people miss the point that cell infrastructure scales both with population and with physical area. Someone has to pay for that.

    I think it depends on where you go, and what goods you're looking at. I lived in Tokyo for three years. Moved back to the US, to California, and naively expected the cost of living to be lower.

    It wasn't.

    What was more galling, not only was I paying more living in CA, but the quality of the goods and services purchased was generally lower.

    A random sample list:

    • Eggs - cheaper in Tokyo, and fresher there too.
    • Dry cleaning - cheaper in Tokyo.
    • Prepared ready-to-eat foods (a.k.a. chûshoku in Japanese, a bit like a carry-out buffet) - hard to find in the US outside of grocery stores, but generally tastier, more varied, and cheaper in Tokyo. Great for anyone living on their own, or in a household where no one has time to cook.
    • Telecoms - both cell and internet service were *way* cheaper, with *way* better coverage and data speeds. I could place a phone call on the Ôedo line, the newest and deepest subway line in Tokyo, but I would drop out of service while driving on US 101 from Mountain View north past Google's massive campus. Yay, AT&T. :-P

    And would people *please* give the population density argument a rest? It's a red herring. The San Francisco Bay Area is quite densely populated and is supposedly the center of the US high-tech industry - and yet cell coverage is kinda crappy, and internet service is much more expensive and much slower than anything you get in Japan (unless you're out in the boonies). It's not about population density, it's about profit margins, and what regulators and the competitive environment will allow.

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    1. Re:Depends where you are. by cdrguru · · Score: 2

      Coverage in the US cities is a function of being able to put up towers.

      You can't put up a tower in a city without permission from the city. You can't put it on city land no matter what. To put a tower up on private land you have to not only negotiate with the landowner but the landowner's neighbors. When there is someone that believes cell phone radiation will cause cancer you aren't going to put a tower there no matter what. Ever, until that person moves. Trying to fight it out in court is a losing battle because half of the jury might just believe in cell phone radiation being hazardous even after you parade 12 experts saying differently. You aren't going to convince anyone.

      So therefore no tower gets built on that location. Say it takes four months to figure out it isn't going to happen at that site. So you move on down the list to the next best candidate and spend another four months trying to determine if it is possible to build one there. Oh, and another nutjob is on TV being interviewed about how dangerous the cell tower in their neighborhood is - might have to relocate that tower now as well.

      I seriously doubt that Japan has this kind of problem. Or anywhere else for that matter. Maybe Sydney or Melbourne but they probably have a different procedure where the nutjobs are required to live in fenced compounds with each little apartment being completely enclosed in a Faraday cage.

  18. Oh for Pete's sake! by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    State Agencies get eaten alive by something as big as AT&T/T-Mobile. Did a State agency break up Ma Bell? All I can say to these State's rightser Loons is Divide and Conqueror.

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  19. Re:More like greed made Verizon drop the unl plan by hedwards · · Score: 2

    The reason why it's more likely is that they don't want to compete. When you've got an oligopoly, it's advantageous to compete as minimally as possible. With T-mobile out of the picture, there would be no reason to continue to provide an unlimited plan. Unlimited plans certainly aren't any more profitable than ones with limits. They could just set the included amount somewhat higher than AT&T and pocket the extra money that they aren't having to spend on bandwidth costs.

    Sure, it's somewhat fallacious to suggest that it's inevitable, but I'd be very surprised if it didn't play out like that just after Verizon buys Sprint in order to remain competitive.

  20. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by hedwards · · Score: 2

    How often does your average American leave the state? I don't personally consider that to be a major concern when I leave the state so infrequently. The bigger issue is the shit service around town.

    The fact that I can't get decent coverage in a major city is an absolute embarrassment. And As for ISPs, Qwest apparently has written off much of Seattle in terms of upgrades deeming 1.5mbps to be fast enough. Same basic problem, shit regulation and a company that's figured out that it's cheaper to not bother to invest in infrastructure due to a lack of competition and regulation making them do it.

  21. Good for some people. by SirMasterboy · · Score: 2

    I still pay $50 a month total for my iPhone and still have unlimited 3G data being with ATT.

    Now with the acquisition I have even more towers to cover me for the voice and 2G data end since T-mo towers are compatible with this.

  22. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by cdrguru · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One of the biggest problems in the US is simply finding a spot to put a tower.

    Can't put it anywhere within a city limits without permission from the city. Can't put it on any land the city owns, period. Can't put it on any private land without a permit from the city. Can't put it anywhere near people that complain about the radiation hazards, how the sight of the tower offends them or any other complaint unless you like spending millions in court.

    This means in non-rural areas finding a spot for a tower is a huge challenge whereas I suspect most other countries the siting for a tower is easy - you get the government permission at a high level and nobody is allowed to argue with you. This is especially true when the telephone provider also happens to be state-owned.

    Sure there are "regulators" involved but they aren't listening to the lunatic fringe. Here in the US between the environmentalists, the radical environmentalists (you know, all progress since 800 AD is cruel, inhumane and against nature) and the basic nutjobs (cell tower radiation hazards, power transmission line hazards, magnetic cure-all bracelets that are negatively affected by any other EMF fields in the area, etc.) have the ear of the government and the courts.

  23. Re:US telecom trailing others isn't a fair assessm by SomeKDEUser · · Score: 2

    Actually, you don't. Rates are high-ish, but capped by a EU directive...