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New IMF Head Says US Must Raise Debt Limit, or Face 'Nasty Consequences'

fysdt writes with this from an article on ABC News: "The International Monetary Fund's new chief foresees 'real nasty consequences' for the U.S. and global economies if the U.S. fails to raise its borrowing limit. Christine Lagarde, the first woman to head the lending institution, said in an interview broadcast Sunday that it would cause interest rates to rise and stock markets to fall. That would threaten an important IMF goal, which is preserving stability in the world economy, she said. The U.S. borrowing limit is $14.3 trillion. Obama administration officials say the U.S. would begin to default without an agreement by Aug. 2."

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  1. Only in America by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    can people expect to wage 2 ground wars, and 1 air war, while giving tax cuts to the wealthy.

    1. Re:Only in America by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We've had the tax cuts for going on 10 years, and the jobs situation got WORSE. The tax rate on the wealthiest Americans is at the lowest point since the 50's. Without the security of America, those companies wouldn't even exist in their current form, so spare me the crocodile tears for the million and billionaires. If the middle class can be asked to fight their bullshit wars, the rich should have to fucking pay for it.

    2. Re:Only in America by artor3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You stupid fucker. You think CEOs pay their employees out of pocket? Hell no. Corporations pay peoples' salaries. Raising taxes on the rich has absolutely no impact on this. But they've drummed their lies into your head enough that you're now afraid to tax them, which is why hedge fund managers pay a lower tax rate than their IT staff, despite earning about 50 times as much.

    3. Re:Only in America by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Odd. I seem to remember the US economy being artificially buoyed by a bubble in the housing market backed by bad debt during Bush's tenure.

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    4. Re:Only in America by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Our poor and lower middle class don't pay tax at all.

      Except for state and local income taxes, payroll taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, and excise taxes, many of which are regressive taxes that have disproportionate effects on the poor, rather than the rich. And also federal income tax, which isn't nearly so avoidable as you think.

      But hell -- I'd be happy to shoulder a higher tax burden if we were also soaking the rich and if we were using that tax revenue in a better fashion. We don't need to waste money on our incompetent military (not good for much other than blowing crap up, letting situations degrade, and keeping the USSR from taking over Europe), but we could sure use a good single-payer healthcare system.

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  2. Re:The sky is falling...OH NO!!! /sarc by headhot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." Warren Buffet. His tax rate is lower then his secertary. They pay more then the none rich, because they make retardedly huge amounts of money, but for some reason their taxes as a percent of income is much lower then those of the middle class.

  3. Re:The only "nasty consequences" require courage by genner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US won't "default" no matter what happens. Enough tax money comes in every day to sustain the interest payments on the debt. The tough decisions politicians need to make are the budget cuts. Obama and the Democrats don't want to cut anything (except for defense). The elephant in the room is all those people on the welfare dole. "Entitlements" account for the vast majority of the budget. Does a millionaire retiree really need that $2000 social security check and medicare? Those programs should be means-tested. Otherwise, they're just Ponzi schemes that are approaching the inevitable demise of more people taking out than putting in.

    For those who want to raise taxes, I ask you: When has a tax increase ever created a job? On the contrary, Reagan knew what Kennedy (JFK) knew: tax cuts INCREASES private investment, which increases jobs, which adds more TAXPAYERS to the system. We don't need more taxes, we need more people paying taxes. Obama can sing his class warfare song (rich vs. poor) all he wants but the fact of the matter is, rich people INVEST their money. That creates jobs. Confiscate their money through taxation and that's less money available to invest. It's really quite simple. I'm glad my boss is a millionaire. If he wasn't, I might be unemployed right now.

    I used to agree with this line of thinking. The problem is the rich aren't investing in US companies. The current tax breaks are creating jobs they just happen to be in China.

  4. Re:The only "nasty consequences" require courage by cowboy76Spain · · Score: 5, Insightful

    tax cuts INCREASES private investment, which increases jobs, which adds more TAXPAYERS to the system.

    Oh, the infamous Lafffer curve (too lazy to post a link to wikipedia, check it yourself). Too bad it has not been proved, nobody knows where the optimal point is (why they always assume the optimal point is with LESS taxes, and no with more?), and everything else. But it gives some people a good mantra to repeat and repeat.

    As other post has already put, everyone is willing to make sacrifices and cut costs... unless it is in something that benefits them.

    At least some people is honest and choses consequently "I want good public services and I'll pay the taxes needed to/I do not want good public services but I want less taxes instead". Others just say"If I pay less taxes then everything will magically solve". With the first people one can try to get to a common point, arguing with the later ones is just a waste of time.

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  5. Heroin by srussia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other news, heroin addict must get another fix or face "nasty consequences".

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  6. Re:The only "nasty consequences" require courage by Xyrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Laffer curve is a miserable failure, as anyone with even the slightest knowledge of economic history can deduce.

    The only private investments tax cuts will spur will be in paying accountants to find new and unique ways to hide the taxable income in esoteric financial constructs designed specifically for the wealthy.

    Balancing the budget requires cutting spending AND raising taxes.

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  7. Re:Expect a Civil War if the US defaults by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think you have your finger on the pulse of America (what little pulse there is). Unless you're going to acknowledge the same civil rights to gay people that everyone else has on a federal level, or you're going to shut down the NFL, or you're going to ban latte's, there is nothing that will ever cause the US to erupt. If that video of our troops unloading on unarmed people with really pathetic commentary on the open mics didn't cause a riot, nothing will. If Goldman Sachs executives running the treasury giving massive bailouts to Goldman Sachs didn't cause riots, nothing will. If going to war for almost a decade against a country that didn't attack us for reasons that were later acknowledged to be manufactured and false (and that we're still participating in) didn't cause riots, nothing will.

  8. Re:Stop Spending! by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do you hate your grandparents?

    Because they spent decades partying as they built up huge debts that they now expect their grandchildren to pay?

  9. Re:Stop Spending! by microbox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Raising taxes will only further DECREASE revenue.

    That is just an opinion that the vast majority of economists (and educated people) disagree with. Sometimes I wish we could send all the people like you to a separate country, so that you can screw up your own lives without affecting mine. Perhaps the feeling is mutual =). There is no tax, and no government in Somalia. Go for it.

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