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Netflix Deflects Rage Over Price Increase

oxide7 writes "Netflix provoked an unprecedented outpouring of backlash across the Internet as the company unveiled plans to raise prices on its movie-rental services. The company said it would raise the Internet-plus-DVDs-in-the-mail plan from $9.99 per month to $15.98 per month late Tuesday sparking protests and rage across the subscriber base. Netflix brushed off the criticism however. 'We knew there would be some people who would be upset,' company spokesman Steve Swasey said. 'To most people, it's a latte or two,' he added."

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  1. No rage, just a lost customer. by Kenja · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Canceled as soon as they sent email with their new pricing scheme. Simply not worth that much money, especially with competition from Amazon and Google in the works.

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    1. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let them drink Latte...

      My god! The stunning arrogance of the McMansion aristocracy.

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    2. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by rwven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fact is that shipping through the mail is just really expensive compared to streaming. Netflix needed to make this decision sooner or later, and I don't blame them for doing it. They've been talking about how expensive the mailings are for a long time now.

    3. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by neurocutie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Simply not worth that much money, especially with competition from Amazon and Google in the works." But the writing is on the wall that the content providers are going to be driving up the prices on ALL such online streaming services. Netflix just happens to be the first and biggest. As articles have said, Netflix USED BE just a "left overs" service, at least from the view point of the content providers (studios, etc). That is, the studios thought that MOST people bought DVDs and saw movies in theaters and Netflix was just there to "mop up" the small fraction of the market that didn't pay through the other channels. But now the studios see that Netflix is rapidly become a MAJOR if not THE predominant channel for customers to view content. So as revenues drop fro DVD sales, the studio EXPECT Netflix, Apple, Amazon, Hulu, Google, etc to raise prices to make up for the shortfall elsewhere. Point is, short of piracy, don't count on finding low cost channels for content from the studios to last forever.

    4. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So expensive that they were able to build a huge company on it but now, suddenly, it's not profitable. Wake up and smell the cash grab.

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    5. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The cash grab is coming from the content providers. Netflix has become a major player so they want a bigger share of the pie.

    6. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by alostpacket · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Part of me wonders how much of the cash grab is coming from the content providers/movie studios though. Now that they see netflix is the path to the customer they decided to try and play a bit more hardball. That's just my speculation though, impossible to say for sure.

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    7. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by deains · · Score: 5, Informative

      Happy Bastille Day everyone.

    8. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by sneakyimp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mod parent up. This is definitely about the content providers wanting more money. The reason the Sony movies were removed is because they had hit a contractual cap and Netflix was unable to offer them anymore until a renegotiation followed. At the renegotiation, the content providers are all too aware of the soaring Netflix profits and stock price and are demanding more money. My actor friend in Hollywood (an armchair industry analyst) has been moaning for months about how the studios let Netflix get away with the content too cheaply.

      I'll be canceling my account too for a variety of reasons:
      1) The streaming selection has been awful lately. Like really awful.
      2) The site redesign really sucks. You have to hover over a movie to see the rating.
      3) The recommendations for me are ghastly. Maybe it's because my girlfriend has been watching too many movies.
      4) I've received scratched DVDs and had streaming movies drop repeatedly (despite my 10Mbps connection). I have yet to receive any compensation or even an apology for these service failures.
      5) No video rental on demand? WTF??
      6) Yes, the price increase.

    9. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by hal2814 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whatever. Just eat one fewer of those tiny spoonfuls of caviar or drink one less glass of Dom. Or if you don't want to skimp there, light your Cuban cigars with $1 bills instead of $5 bills now. You can cover the difference with the change left in your swim trunks after swimming in your money bin. Why are we complaining about such a small price increase?

    10. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by jojoba_oil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My god! The stunning arrogance of the McMansion aristocracy.

      I don't know if it's arrogance or just plain ignorance. They figure that since they drink a latte every morning, everybody does... "Right? Right guys?"

      Remember the /. story about how 'most people love our new website redesign'?

      If I was a Netflix customer, I'd drop them. If I was a Netflix shareholder, I'd drop them -- not because of the price increase, but because of the sweeping generalizations that seem completely untrue "most people this" and "most people that". There's a serious case of out-of-touch-with-consumers there. Maybe someone who runs a marketing/consumer-research firm has a jackpot just waiting for them...

    11. Re:No rage, just a lost customer. by shermo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What I hate is how movies appear and disappear and the movies I really want to watch are nearly impossible to find online.

      Of course there's always other options... It's always nice when the illegal option is both cheaper, more convenient and a better product.

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  2. It is still Cheaper than Cable by Reverand+Dave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and I don't have to sit through a lot of idiotic commercials.

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  3. Latte Defense by Gr33nJ3ll0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why are so many things justified with the already unjustifiable cost of a Latte? Just as two wrongs don't make a right, two prices that are too high, don't make the second any cheaper.

  4. The update does not make sense by Superken7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most people are probably not really angry because of the money increase, as there are few good rivals (not for long, I hope), but because nothing of value was added to the service to justify the increase.

    I bet most people would be happy if the price increase would have arrived with a 100% streaming coverage so people can stop relying on DVDs, or maybe some new cool feature.
    Instead, the UI has been somewhat degraded for some, and now the service is almost twice the price. It's not just "some people", I'm sure _most_ people are not happy with the "update".

    1. Re:The update does not make sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I bet most people would be happy if the price increase would have arrived with a 100% streaming coverage so people can stop relying on DVDs, or maybe some new cool feature.

      If you want 100% streaming coverage, $7.99 is way too cheap. Most people are simply being irrational here. The cost of doing business is going up for Netflix, so the cost to pay for the service is going up with it. Netflix gave us all way too good a deal for way too long which has caused most consumers to turn into spoiled little brats.

    2. Re:The update does not make sense by gorzek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, $8 a month for unlimited streaming is a fucking steal. Assuming you watch only an hour a night, you are paying all of 26 cents an hour for your entertainment, a better deal than just about anything else out there.

    3. Re:The update does not make sense by Idbar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I said this somewhere else, but I think is worth mention here.

      I'm a netflix subscriber, and I sincerely don't care paying more for their services. What I think motivated the rage, was rolling out a price increase as a "feature". Instead of just saying they will be increasing the prices ("The $10 plan will be now $16, BUT you have the option of going only streaming or only DVDs for half the price"), they went "Hey! Great news, we are splitting the plans so everyone is happy! Your plan will no longer exist and you'll have to pay extra! BTW, Everyone must switch over in September".

      If there's one thing you don't want to do you your customers is making them look like idiots, and tell them to pay more with ultimatums. That was sort of 3 strikes on their single blog post.

  5. Re:Marie Antoinette by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A misattributed, misunderstood literary anecdote used to draw a supposed parallel between starving peasants and Netflix users? Ah, Slashdot, you never cease to disappoint me!

  6. Re:They don't get it by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If 2/3rds of the user base stays with a 50% price increase, then they've increased revenue while decreasing expenses (less bandwidth usage).

    Question is whether it'll stay at just a third leaving.

  7. Anti-competitive behavior by digitalderbs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What irks me about the price increase has nothing to do with the price of lattes or the fact that we're not necessarily getting anything more in return. It's the anti-competitive behavior. I suspect that the margins on their current pricing were set to be small enough to snuff out Blockbuster. Now, without real competition (incl Amazon's service), they can reap the fruits of their 'sacrifices.'

  8. Re:You're just a consumer ... by royallthefourth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh grow up, it's just garbage entertainment. When you're really abused is when your food prices start going up, or the bank charges a mysterious fee, or you suddenly can't find work. Or, for that matter, when your wages stagnate while the cost of living continues to increase over the course of decades.
    That's when the real overlords laugh the hardest, knowing that your children will consider it a privilege to serve them their own siblings' flesh after you're gone. Netflix is just a sideshow.

  9. The Thank You Economy... NOT! by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 5, Informative

    You're damn right! Latte? Latte? Arrogant little shit, people (like me) are pinching pennies cancelling even basic cable in the tight economy already trying to keep a "normal" life going with a $10 spot to Netflix. I can go to Redbox, Steve Swasey, you little asshole and get almost 3 DVDs a week! Netflix was mostly to keep my CHILD entertained with kids shows, but fuck it, it's just a latte to you, right?

    Sorry for the cursing, but that mother... needs to read The Thank You Economy by Gary Vaynerchuk and get some goddamn manners! This is a less for how NOT to conduct business when everyone has a direct line to 500 friends on Facebook, Twitter, G+, etc! What a retard! I hope the fact that he is spokesman for Netflix will make future employers go, "Ah, so I guess I don't have to ask why you're now looking for new employment. Well, we don't find you qualified for spokesman, but we do have janitorial."

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  10. Just Bizarre by pavon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $7.99 is way too cheap.

    To me that is the most bizarre aspect of this price change. If what you want is just streaming or just DVD, the new plan is very inexpensive. AFAIK, it is the lowest price that Netflix has ever offered. But if you primarily use one and occasionally supplement it with the other, having to pay double the price isn't worth it. So the natural reaction of everyone I know personally, and the vast majority of posts I have seen on the internet is to drop one of the two. It is like Netflix is begging us to give them less money, and presenting it an a manner that is pissing everyone off.

    What is even more mind-boggling, is that this ability to supplement one with the other is the one of the biggest advantages that Netflix has over it's competitors, and they just completely threw it out the window.

    I understand that the price for streaming would have to increase over time as Netflix renegotiates deals, and the selection increases. I never expected it to be included as a freebee with the DVD service forever, just during it's teething years. But I can't believe that the average person who signs up for both DVD and streaming would use both just as much as the average person who only signs up for one or the other.

    If they really believed that the majority of people would keep both plans at the higher price, then their market research people need to be fired.