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Spotify To Bait and Switch?

hype7 writes "The Harvard Business Review, of all places, is running a story suggesting that Spotify may have to rely on a bait & switch strategy — or might have one forced upon it by the record labels. From the article: 'Spotify gets all its content from the same place everyone else does – the same industry that has forced price increases on other online services once they have become successful. That appears to be at least partly what happened with Netflix last week. At least in the case of the existing a la carte music services, if you don't like the new price, you don't have to buy the new track. In Spotify's world, if you don't like the new price, there goes your music library. Or, if Spotify tries to stand up for its users, the labels can just pull the songs and those songs simply disappear.'"

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  1. Rent? by gnick · · Score: 2

    I think this is the difference between buying and renting. If you can't pick it up, it seems like you can't "buy" much any more... Pirate? Yes. Buy? No.

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    1. Re:Rent? by poetmatt · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doesn't really matter. You paid for the subscription, you should own the content. http://www.spotifyrip.com/ is one solution. Legal? Grey area. Provable in court? Not in a million years. You're recording the playback. There have been apps that do this for everything from shoutcast to a variety of other things. Streamripper equivalents for spotify can probably do this. I see http://spotiplay.com/how-to-rip-music-from-spotify/ pointing to other alternatives.

      That was the first result of https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=export+music+from+spotify&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t , and I'm sure that more is coming, especially with US demand.

      Do I trust Spotify? No. Do I trust my hard drive with what I choose to put on it? Yes. This is pretty much equivalent to forking an app, except that we can't really trust the labels any more than spotify.

    2. Re:Rent? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the terms of the subscription are quite clear that you only have access to the music so long as you pay the subscription, why should you own the content?

      I don't own every film I get in my Netflix subscription....

    3. Re:Rent? by bws111 · · Score: 2

      What kind of logic is that? Subscribing to spotify is like getting a library card: it gets you access to millions of songs (books) that you can use, but are not yours. You would have to be completely nuts to think that paying $5/mo means you actually own 15 million songs.

  2. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hope they all go out of business, so I can go back to using the "but there is no viable legal alternative".

    Oh what the fuck, I'm just going to pirate anyway, cause it's awesome.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh what I wouldn't give to be 15 again.

    2. Re:Good by Xaedalus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah yes... drool all day, stare at chicks who'd rather throw themselves in front of a bus than talk to me, and masturbate all night. Pimples, voice breaking, and endless rounds of Quake complete with teabagging, cheetos, and trash-talking. Sneaking booze out of Dad's liquor cabinet and getting the hell beaten out of me later. Ripping tunes for the lulz, and staring in envy at those goddamn 18 year old Seniors who have it all. Good times...

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    3. Re:Good by guyminuslife · · Score: 2

      I'm twenty-five, you insensitive clod!

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  3. Pirate FTW by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Meanwhile, my collection pf pirate mp3s sits on my harddrive, perpetually available, can be transcoded into any forseeable format in the future, and has wide support on every modern portable and computing device out there...

    The market has spoken! And it has said "f*ck you".

    P.S. RIAA/MPAA I've taunted you on this website and dozens of others ever since the DeCSS incident, daring you to start legal action against me. I've got close to 2 terabytes of "your" crap on my harddrive and I have yet to hear so much as a cricket-noise from you.

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  4. Re:netflix's selection is still pretty bad by clarkn0va · · Score: 2

    selection is still pathetic

    That's a question of personal taste. Netflix's documentary collection is large and the quality of titles on the whole is the best I've ever seen, and well worth the $7.99/month CAD that I gladly pay for it. (Ever seen Manda Balla? I hadn't even heard of this film until I saw it browsing Netflix. One of many excellent titles worth watching and recommending)

    On a side note, yes I've downloaded high-quality HD movies without paying for them (it's legal in Canada, you know), but Netflix is just easier, and the aforementioned selection so good that I don't know of a better place to go shopping for films on-line. The music industry would do well to bring a comparable product to market (and don't talk to me about satellite radio. The concept is ok, but the sound quality is just too poor to even think about paying any real money for).

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  5. Re:But at least we have strong copyright! by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2

    You've got it all wrong. Its the rights of the publishers.

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  6. Re:A somewhat obvious and panicky article by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not panicky, it's real. People need to wake up. Look at how Amazon has deleted things people have purchased for the Kindle, with no warning and recourse.

    DO NOT TRUST THE CLOUD FOR ANYTHING.

    If you do not wholly control a non-DRMed local file, you don't have shit. When you use services like Steam or Spotify or any content delivery service that retains the right to delete things you've bought whenever they feel like it, you're asking for a disaster eventually. Even if the whole service doesn't tank, it will just be a matter of time before they start doing things like Amazon and deleting things you've purchased without warning. Whether it's a licensing issue or 'for the children', it will happen and you won't be able to do jack.

    You've been warned.

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  7. Re:A somewhat obvious and panicky article by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Informative

    Look at how Amazon has deleted things people have purchased for the Kindle, with no warning and recourse.
     

    You mean the single title which they found out (after the fact) that a partner did not have the rights to, so they pulled the book and refunded your money? Or are there a slew of others I just haven't heard about?

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  8. Re:A somewhat obvious and panicky article by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 2

    Yes, there were others you don't know about.

    Worse this was done after they said they wouldn't do it again. The fact that they even have the capability should be enough to wary any thinking person, but that they break their 'word' on the matter should shatter any false confidence once and for all.

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  9. Re:A somewhat obvious and panicky article by MarkGriz · · Score: 2

    "If you do not wholly control a non-DRMed local file, you don't have shit"

    Duh. It's a music rental service. If you don't like it, don't use it. Buy your MP3s or CDs instead.

    Did it really require a whole article in the Harvard Business Review. What next "Stay Away From Redbox, You Cant Keep Those DVDs"

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  10. Re:A somewhat obvious and panicky article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Guess you couldn't read all the way to the bottom of the article where is said that was a technical problem for a short period of time and was fixed. No users lost anything.