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Internet Eats Into Time-Warner Cable Porn Profits

Hugh Pickens writes "Big cable companies like Comcast and Time Warner Cable keep saying they don't see Web video cutting into their business, but there's at least one big, dirty exception. Time Warner Cable said in its quarterly earnings report that its video-on-demand (VOD) business dropped significantly in the last quarter. Asked to explain where the drop came from, CEO Glenn Britt came clean, more or less: much of the drop is because, instead of renting a porn video in HD for $9.98, Time Warner's customers are getting their porn fix on the internet for free. 'One of the things going on with VOD is that there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down, largely because there's that kind of material available on the Internet for free,' says Britt. 'And that's pretty high margin.' To be fair, drooping porn rentals don't account for all of Time Warner Cable's VOD decline. Chief Financial Officer Rob Marcus said that while 'the biggest piece of the year-over-year decline was in fact in the adult category,' the rest of the drop is because there weren't many big pay-per-view events like boxing matches last quarter, and because regular movie rentals are down, too."

228 comments

  1. Porn niches by zget · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having worked with the porn industry, it's mostly because cable companies just show that same old pornstar-looking women with silicons doing the same routine over and over again. People are willing to pay for porn but only if it's a niche they really like. This can be japanese, ladyboys, hairy women, old women, celebs and so on.. Yes, you can find these things freely on tube sites on the internet, but if you like something you want to get more of it and then you go find sites offering content that you cannot find for free. But cable companies will never take that in to their content, because they're afraid people will find it weird.

    1. Re:Porn niches by ThisIsSaei · · Score: 1

      You don't think that, if a clear profit margin is demonstrated, they won't pick it up? I'd expect them to, even if at an arm's distance via child companies.

    2. Re:Porn niches by Tridus · · Score: 1

      They have to figure out that's the problem first, and they havne't. They prefer to just blame the Internet.

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    3. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, as someone who's not necessarily philosophically opposed to paying for porn, the fact is what cable companies offer is simply not worth it. Yes, internet porn is free, but it can be a pain to find anything decent and the streaming quality is usually atrocious. HD VOD porn should be a decent option, but at $15 for a 24 hour rental for a single movie, it's not remotely worth it. Throw in the fact that the movie is heavily edited (generally they take standard porn out of Cali then cut out the anal and the money shots, at least in my area) and I just can't understand why anyone would ever buy it.

    4. Re:Porn niches by pinkushun · · Score: 2

      Or to put it another way: Internet rule #34 beats "family values" cable porn.

    5. Re:Porn niches by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I'm surprised people still pay for porn.

      No seriously, have any Gen-Y'ers out there ever paid for porn in their life?

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    6. Re:Porn niches by w_dragon · · Score: 5, Funny

      In this instance I don't think they would refer to them as 'child' companies...

    7. Re:Porn niches by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Pretty much this. In your area anal sex ain't allowed but you want to see it? Or oral? The internet certainly has a big selection, from M/M, F/M or ... whatever/whatever. Your TV won't give it to you, the internet will. In your area S&M sex is considered "indecent"? The internet certainly has it. Your country considered people shagging in shaggy costumes 'animal porn' and hence disallows it? No fear, dear Furries, the internet is your friend.

      Face it, aside of some few fetishes that are illegal pretty much everywhere (pretty much anything rape related, as far as I can tell, but then, I've hardly been looking deeply into that matter outside of my job) you WILL find what you're into on the internet. No matter what your "decency laws" might dictate, the internet doesn't give half a shit about them.

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    8. Re:Porn niches by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      I'm older than Gen-Y but as someone who follows the "vote with your wallet" philosophy I pay for a good amount of it. I used to buy it mainly because it was hard to get high quality porn on dial-up, now I buy it because there are certain companies whose videos my wife and I enjoy and we want to support them.

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    9. Re:Porn niches by derGoldstein · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking that the long-term strategy of the porn industry is to make you pay if you want to not see porn. Start Googling something random and adjust the search terms until the first time porn pops up. It usually takes less than a minute, *especially* on image search. Who better than the porn industry to identify what *is* porn, in order to filter it out.

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    10. Re:Porn niches by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No, my grandpa owned a store where he sold porn. Surprisingly some of it got stolen, even though he guarded it well. No idea how those sneaky thieves got behind the counter and took it from there, but then, maybe I just wasn't as wary as he was, it usually happened when he put me in charge. I'm really, really sorry...

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    11. Re:Porn niches by derGoldstein · · Score: 2

      ...it can be a pain to find anything decent and the streaming quality is usually atrocious

      Ha! amateur. Work on your porn-fu before you post something this embarrassing.

      Now where's that "Post Anonymously" checkbox... Ah whatever, this is Slashdot.

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    12. Re:Porn niches by zget · · Score: 1

      Some people know what they want and are willing to pay for it (or to get more of it), and appreciate the quality. It's like taking a first girl that walks by and shows some interest in you, even if shes ugly and pain in the ass.. Wait, this is slashdot. It's like taking an abandoned, somewhat working car from the street while you could had just bought ferrari.

    13. Re:Porn niches by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Cable channels have to operate under close scrutiny and run the risk of being sued in Memphis for stuff they want to show people in San Francisco.

      This is a very old problem. it's also why cable porn is castrated somewhat.

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    14. Re:Porn niches by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      And yet they find the sale of highly artificial and homogenised H. sap mating scenarios perfectly normal. Weird.

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    15. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My porn-fu is fine my young friend, but my tastes are specific and my standards are high. Free streaming 1080p is a rarity, and where it does exist the servers get overloaded frequently. I also have a lot of disposable income and would quite willingly pay a reasonable amount if I could get what I want with no effort.

    16. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't cable porn what Bill Hicks used to call "Hairy Bobbin' Man Ass" porn? They don't even show anything, right? Why pay for that.

    17. Re:Porn niches by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Sort of... but pr0n adheres to the rest of the business principles too.

      See, these corps have a massive stockpile of content that they bought and paid for (either entirely or the rights to broadcast it). Sure, it's almost all tame by Internet standards, but they still have to see some kind of return on investment for them.

      You know why we're still seeing Mickey Mouse crap from Disney, or re-releases of certain Disney properties (Snow White, etc) nearly a century after the damned thing was first drawn, right? They still have the copyrights, and by all that is holy they're gonna flog every dollar bill they can out of the things. The pr0n industry works the same way... they have all that money, time, and treasure sunk into the pile they have, and they're kind of stuck with it.

      Small aside: Unlike Mickey Mouse or Snow White, the pr0n merchants don't have the luxury of showing the stuff to new generations of kids as parents fondly remember their own memories of it.

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    18. Re:Porn niches by Anrego · · Score: 1

      The problem is that a niche market tends to be insanely profitable for a small group of people on a small scale .. but a lot less so on the large scale. As parent said, people are willing to pay for stuff that falls outside the generic porn that can be found free all over the internet... however if anything was common enough to be worth offering on a VOD service, you'd be able to find it free as well.

    19. Re:Porn niches by kelemvor4 · · Score: 2

      Humor aside, I believe the proper term is subsidiary.

    20. Re:Porn niches by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Free streaming 1080p is a rarity

      You want 'good' and 'free' and 'streamed'?

      I think I see the flaw in your plan...

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    21. Re:Porn niches by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Google is missing out on a whole untapped market with its "safe search" nannying.

      I bet there's loads of people who'd pay for an *unsafe* search option.

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    22. Re:Porn niches by morari · · Score: 1

      ladyboys

      Yes, please!

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    23. Re:Porn niches by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Stop watching skinamax.
      There are REAL cable porn channels.. With midgets and whips! When I worked at comcast every weekend someone had to volunteer to watch the porn channels all weekend long. you got PAID to do it. Yet very few married guys ever volunteered.

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    24. Re:Porn niches by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 2

      "Streaming" in this case does not necessarily mean audio/video from a remote server...

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    25. Re:Porn niches by gnick · · Score: 1

      You don't think that, if a clear profit margin is demonstrated, they won't pick it up?

      Only if there is really a clear profit margin demonstrated. For example, maybe there's a large group of people willing to pay for scat porn on niche websites. Maybe those sites turn a profit. But, if advertised on the PPV channels, it may turn away more viewers from "traditional" PPV sales than it attracts for that flavor of niche porn. But, on the Internet, people can find that stuff (or anything else that may float their boat) for free.

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    26. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's really funny that you nick is Opportunist. I see why.

    27. Re:Porn niches by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      you got PAID to do it.

      Cubicle or private office?

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    28. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think part of it is based on the "genericness" of porn. Porn stars aren't like Tom Hanks or Sandra Bullock. In general (and I realize there are specific cases that go against it) you're more interested in the deed than who is doing it. You don't necessarily need to have your preferred starlet doing the deed when you can find someone else doing it. Hell some people prefer the "unseen faces" or amateur footage out there.

      You don't find that same indie-grab when it comes to Hollywood features.

    29. Re:Porn niches by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      To quote the little Indian on Short Circuit...BIMBO Newton Crosby. While i'm not working with porn I AM working PC repair and have been for 20+ years where one VERY quickly finds out people are picky little fuckers when it comes to porn. And ya know what? While I thought the classic porn star look, the "Big Boob Barbie" would be the most popular, it ain't, not by a long shot.

      From what I've seen it is the naturals series, the college and teen babe series, followed by anal, gangbangs, ladyboys (I still haven't figured that one out, but hey whatever floats your boat) and the foreign flix, be they Italian, Jap, French. The closest I ever get to seeing a classic pornstar (which believe you me I don't go looking for, would REALLY prefer NOT knowing what porn my customers like, but when they find out I may have to do a wipe and reinstall its always "hey while you have it, how much to backup?") is old Rocco Siffredi who always seems to be popular. But he usually don't get Big Boob Barbies for his movies.

      That is why I don't get why when I go to friends that have PPV its like you said, Big Boob Barbie 24/7. Its like the Barbie channel, all Barbie all the time. I have to wonder if it isn't like the video stores where you could tell what fetish the store owner had by which videos he always had waaay too many of. My local video shop owner was apparently into milk maids (again whatever floats your boat, don't get that one either) and Ginger Lynn. While I like old Ginger he must have had a shrine to her or something because he had like every single movie she had ever done.

      But in the end I just don't see how the cable cos can compete with something like myfreepaysite (great site BTW, but I'm not linking as I give that one to customers that keep getting pron bugs since it is virus free and has over 10,000 DVDs and I would prefer it not get /.ed thanks) where you literally have thousands upon thousands of videos, all instantly streaming in usually three to four resolutions, in every niche you can think of, all categorized for your convenience. Who would pay for pron when you have something like that?

      I think in the end the entire pron industry will probably have to shift to the myfreepaysite model, where they make their money on all the extras. with myfreepaysite they sell toys and lubes, they sell downloads, they sell webcam access, hell they probably have 3 dozen ways to make money on that site without charging to watch a video. With porn there are so many attention whores out there with webcams happy to post themselves up on porntube I just don't see how the porn industry will be able to compete with free unless they do like MFP and sell the extras and just use the porn to get them in the door.

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    30. Re:Porn niches by cvtan · · Score: 1

      Gosh thanks for describing all the niches for us. Ewww!

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    31. Re:Porn niches by black+soap · · Score: 1

      And a sliding scale of just how unsafe you want your results....

    32. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that's exactly my point, good, free and streamed don't go together. If I had to give up one, I'd give up free, which is why there would be a market for VOD porn if it wasn't insanely overpriced, watered down garbage.

    33. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having worked with the porn industry, it's mostly because cable companies just show that same old pornstar-looking women with silicons doing the same routine over and over again.

      So what you're saying is that cable porn sucks. Well, yea...

    34. Re:Porn niches by mooingyak · · Score: 1

      When I worked at comcast every weekend someone had to volunteer to watch the porn channels all weekend long. you got PAID to do it.

      For quality control? Or some other reason?

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    35. Re:Porn niches by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Yet very few married guys ever volunteered.

      Hard to believe...I mean, after staring at the same old pussy year after year...I'd think they'd jump at the chance to at least look at some 'strange'.

      Perhaps they were all newlyweds or close to it there?

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    36. Re:Porn niches by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Isn't the cable stuff just softcore, "hand held in a place that conveniently obscures genitals" kind of thing? We have broadband, that stuff is *so* 1998.

      And you said "Having worked", as in past tense? I don't know whether to feel happy or sorry for you.

    37. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Daughter companies? That's much better. I already filled a niche!

    38. Re:Porn niches by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      aside of some few fetishes that are illegal pretty much everywhere (pretty much anything rape related,
      Plenty of rape stuff on the internet. I'm not into it, but I see a lot of it out there just browsing. Many sites will put "Simulated" in front of tags like rape or incest, even if it is not simulated. It is my estimation that most of the extreme stuff is, in fact, staged, and there is not a whole lot of actual rape or incest video out there, but I could be wrong.

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    39. Re:Porn niches by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It's kinda unlikely to have a lot of "real" porn out there with at least one party not consenting. And while I could see incest, I certainly can't see "real" rape as a fully consensual act. It kinda contradicts the definition.

      And, personally, I'd consider it very dumb to put evidence of a crime online. Not that it never happened, but having not only evidence of committing it but also putting it on public display is kinda asking for a vacation in the next PITA prison.

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    40. Re:Porn niches by ergean · · Score: 1

      What is this streaming you talk about? All I see is "buffering..." and I don't know about your tastes, but I don't like it.

    41. Re:Porn niches by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      I bet there's loads of people who'd pay for an *unsafe* search option.

      Here's one for free: http://www.monzy.org/unsafesearch/.

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    42. Re:Porn niches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some linkies (NSFW!):

      Shufuni HD Gallery - HD streamed, lacking in variety compared to their standard definition streams. The standard definition streams are still good quality compared to the other streaming sites I've found, so I don't mind them at all. Use VideoHelper or similar addon/plugin to download the video.

      Files Tube - Find files uploaded to any site on the internet, excellent for finding books and porn on the internet quickly. High quality, not streamed, probably find standard definition mostly.

      Doesn't quite fit your definition, but it allows you to get decent quality stuff for free with very little effort.

    43. Re:Porn niches by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      I believe the proper term is subsidiary.

      Ummm, submissive S+M guys called Sidney in Real Life(TM)?

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    44. Re:Porn niches by jafac · · Score: 1

      it's also why cable porn is castrated somewhat.

      NO! They ABSOLUTELY can't show THAT stuff. That would totally get shut down!

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    45. Re:Porn niches by Yamioni · · Score: 1

      Google already has an unsafe search option. It's called "SafeSearch Off". What I think you meant to say was that you'd like to see a search that returns only the results that would be filtered by the SafeSearch option. In that case you want something like http://www.askjoline.com/. I'm pretty sure that's the site; shooting from memory here, and I'm at work so I can't verify.

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    46. Re:Porn niches by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      We would authorize your home box so they can do it from home. How many wives do you know that will be OK with you watching 2 days solid of hard core porn in the living room...

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    47. Re:Porn niches by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Quality control. to report signal outage right away. People that pay $19.95 an hour get pissy to the CSR's right away if their porn stops flowing.

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  2. Only Now? by steevven1 · · Score: 2

    I'd have expected this to be news 5-10 years ago. I'd say if they're only taking a hit from the Internet now, they should consider themselves lucky!

    1. Re:Only Now? by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Hear, hear! If you are a nation wide HD cable company and *Netflix* is a threat to your revenue stream... YOU FAILED IN DISGRACE. Fall on your sword.

    2. Re:Only Now? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, their old customers die off slowly while the new generation of porn wankers knows that they needn't buy a trenchcoat to get their porn unseen.

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    3. Re:Only Now? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      I call BS. Porn isn't suddenly "free". It's been that way ever since the internet took off. Today's declining sales have nothing to do with it, that's just an incorrect after-the-fact attempt at justification by a junior employee.

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    4. Re:Only Now? by foobsr · · Score: 1

      I'd have expected this to be news 5-10 years ago. ... dropped significantly in the last quarter

      Consider this:

      It is big companies, it takes time to wake up.

      It never droppped 'significantly' in a quarter before, and it is hard to get the big picture.

      CC.

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    5. Re:Only Now? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's mainstream and larger audience is just getting to the point where they are turning to internet porn in large numbers.

      Now think about the age demographics. that 13 years old that was get free porn in 1999 is not in the age demographic Time Warner needs.

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    6. Re:Only Now? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Why now? Why this quarter, all of a sudden? Clearly half the country didn't wake up one morning and think, "I've always heard there was free porn on the Internet. Why don't I go look for it?" If it were simply Internet erosion, it would have been a continuous, gradual erosion, not a sudden drop in a single quarter.

      In my experience, paradigm shifts have a trigger. Did Netflix suddenly get streaming porn, for example? Now, granted, Weekly World News isn't exactly a reliable source, but I'd be willing to bet that even if that story isn't true, something similarly catastrophic must have happened to suddenly cause such a shift in behavior.

      Of course, cable companies would never admit that a competitor was cutting into their business, as that would make them look incompetent to their shareholders, so they instead must look for a scapegoat that they can semi-plausibly blame—a circumstance beyond their control, like piracy.

      I just don't buy the "free porn on the internet cut into sales of PPV porn" excuse. Heck, it would be more plausible if they had said that people had a habit of buying PPV porn to relax after wrestling matches, and with fewer wrestling matches, they now view less PPV porn as well.

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  3. Dinosaurs don't evolve. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Profits down.

  4. Oh really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down"

    *snicker*

  5. the real reasons by alphatel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I am a TWC customer and I can tell you several reasons why no one would want VOD
    1. Their VOD isn't even available in HD, even when you pay the extra $80 per month for the full-on HD package.
    2. Everyone in the porn industry knows that free content has crushed DVD sales for the past 3 years. Did TWC just figure it out?
    3. VOD for $10 a pop, or something streaming thousands of movies, shows, etc from Netflix for $10 per month? Hmmm, wtf should I do??
    4. Whoodathunkit... no one wantws to pay $100 in a recession to watch two skinny boxers beat the crap out of each other. It's free at the sports bar down the street and the beer ain't expensive either.
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    1. Re:the real reasons by peragrin · · Score: 1

      WTF are you talking about?

      Every Time warner HD channel has its own HD VOD channel. there is movies on demand, and HD movies on demand, on a seperate channel.

      As for $10 rentals that is only for porn, and before it is out in theaters movie releases.

      Indivual movies are normally $3.99, $4.99 for HD. Same as blockbuster.

      While time warner is a pain their full ON DEMAND service isnt bad at all, with you being able to watch a movie/ tv show within 24 hours of it being released( some stations restrict that)

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    2. Re:the real reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoodathunkit... no one wantws to pay $100 in a recession to watch two skinny boxers beat the crap out of each other.

      The summary itself states that the exec said there weren't very many boxing matches as is. It's hard for people to pay for something that doesn't exist (except in certain scenarios...).

      Also, skinny? Featherweights normally don't just beat the crap out of each other since they're moving nonstop. Unless you mean heavyweights and their tendency to have a beatdown fight. And if you're calling heavyweights skinny, jeez I worry about the weight of people you know.

      It's free at the sports bar down the street and the beer ain't expensive either.

      This is like asking why I have a personal computer or buy video games when I could just go to a LAN center and play it there. Sure it may be cheaper, but I prefer the comfort of my own home.

    3. Re:the real reasons by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      *cough* fake HD *cough*

    4. Re:the real reasons by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      VOD has raised recently to $15/shot. (No pun intended.) Cheaper to actually subscribe somewhere and get HD videos to serve up on the PS3.

    5. Re:the real reasons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      VOD has raised recently to $15/shot. (No pun intended.) Cheaper to actually subscribe somewhere and get HD videos to serve up on the PS3.

      I don't believe you. *skeptical straight-face arms crossed face*

    6. Re:the real reasons by netsavior · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nobody actually cares about HD, even if they think they do, except a few geeks and a lot of MPAA profit-center members. People have been taught through very careful advertising that the way to distinguish HD from other things is to look for the letters "HD" and that seven twenty of your Peas is vastly inferior to ten eighty of real HD. If you were to tell the average viewer that the difference between DVD and VHS is that DVD is HD, they would probably agree. There are a million stories like this.

      Personally even on my decent 42 inch 1080p display I prefer non-HD streams because HD looks weird. I prefer for the background to be a soft blur instead of a crisp detail of unimportant shit that takes my attention away from the action. In video games, for some reason I don't have this problem and really enjoy the enhanced resolution.

    7. Re:the real reasons by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 1

      Background blurring is a function depth of field of the shot. If the background is sharp, it's because the director of photography decided it should be when they set up the shot.

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    8. Re:the real reasons by stdarg · · Score: 1

      before it is out in theaters movie releases.

      being able to watch a movie/ tv show within 24 hours of it being released

      Can you clarify? Are you saying TWC lets you watch movies on demand within 24 hours of the movies being released in theaters? And sometimes before they're in theaters?

      That's really something I would pay for. I canceled Time Warner years ago but maybe it's time to check them out again.

    9. Re:the real reasons by jandrese · · Score: 2

      $10/movie is absurdly high, especially since you only get to watch it once and when you're competing with a huge amount of free content on the internet. It's no wonder people are abandoning the service in droves.

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    10. Re:the real reasons by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Assuming of course that you have equipment capable of VOD, using the cable company's boxes and DVRs, and not a TiVo. Perhaps they should consider letting people subscribe to the adult channels for an additional $n a month.

      And if they are offering that now, they're certainly not advertising it. Or at least not in this area.

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    11. Re:the real reasons by geekoid · · Score: 1

      That's bullshit. A lot of consumers care about HD. in that the enjoy the sharper image; especially sports fan.

      I think what you should be saying is that YOU don't care about HD; which is fine. I know far to many 'non-geeks' who enjoy the sharper image.

      Here is a test. put a standard TV running a standard broadcast football game next to a HD TV showing an HD broadcast and ask them which one the prefer.

      Do the care about the technical details? no, and they have no reason to.

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    12. Re:the real reasons by geekoid · · Score: 2

      What do you mean 'fake HD'? And you should get your fingers checks, they type like they have a cold.

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    13. Re:the real reasons by seanvaandering · · Score: 1

      Also, Ever been to a bar lately? I'm telling you, people are doing things and dressing down to the point where guessing the g-string color isn't even a challenge anymore. You want some cheap entertainment for an evening and your single and want to get it on (and you half decent looking), then head to the beach or a bar and life will take care of the rest. Also TV sucks to be honest. If they really wanted to make some cash off "internet porn" they need to be a internet distributer. Broadcasting is old school, if that's the best they can come up with then they deserve to go down the toilet. Where the surfing on your TV option? Your ALREADY providing the internet connectivity to most homes - why is no one even thinking of taking the next logical step? Set it up so it goes to a portal - we have the technology already, but i'll bet egos and old contracts are probably prohibiting this sort of upgrade.

    14. Re:the real reasons by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Whoodathunkit... no one wantws to pay $100 in a recession to watch two skinny boxers beat the crap out of each other. It's free at the sports bar down the street and the beer ain't expensive either.

      And sometimes you can watch professional boxing on the TVs there too! :-P

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    15. Re:the real reasons by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      Maybe he was dictating?

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    16. Re:the real reasons by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Only the movies the studios agree to do so with. But yes. I have seen movies as they hit the theaters. Usually second rate movies though.

      And it isnt worth going back to TW for.

      Time warner really sucks off the MPAA.

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    17. Re:the real reasons by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Time warner doesnt advertise the depth/shallowness if their ifferings.
      S
      I never said i liked TW but i have seen worse.

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  6. Commodities 101 by Shoten · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "And that's pretty high margin." ...and also, the very definition of something that will eventually lose out to cheaper, lower-margin outlets, unless it maintains some niche specialization. And last I saw, cable companies weren't really "pushing the envelope" on porn.

    (Which I think I'm grateful for...some of the descriptions of what's on kind of blow my mind. One channel used to draw my interest just for reading the descriptions. You could tell that the poor soul who was writing the synopses had kind of given up on life...it was hilarious. A movie had the phrase "frankly, defies explanation" in its summary.)

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  7. Story Title by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The juxtaposition of "eats into" and "porn".

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    1. Re:Story Title by SpooForBrains · · Score: 1

      Also, "One of the things going on with VOD is that there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down".

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    2. Re:Story Title by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      "drooping porn rentals"......

      that must be a niche predilection

    3. Re:Story Title by EdgeCreeper · · Score: 1

      Yes, not sure if that was deliberate or not. But still, lol. Actually looking at the grandparent post and great-grandparent post, I guess it was.

    4. Re:Story Title by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Well there's your problem right there.

  8. Obligatory by Ltap · · Score: 2

    ... there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down ...

    Well, yes.

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  9. pretty high margin - so cut your price by GungaDan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hard to compete with free, but offer content and convenience at an attractive price and people will buy. Admit to ripping them off ("pretty high margin") and they are less likely to do so.

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    1. Re:pretty high margin - so cut your price by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I looked through the Comcast adult VOD catalog once and every title was $10 and up! They have got to be joking! How desperate for a porn fix does someone have to be to pay that much?

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    2. Re:pretty high margin - so cut your price by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It ain't even the margin, it's the lack of a better offer, that's all.

      You cannot compete on price with free. So I doubt that cutting the margin will change anything. 10 bucks vs. 0 bucks or 2 bucks vs. 0 bucks, the choice doesn't change, does it?

      What they can compete in is quality and convenience. Take the average free porn-tube. I don't know that many, granted, but the ones I do suffer all from the same problem: Advertising. And I'm not talking about the banners left and right, I'm talking about blatantly mislabeled movies that try to lure you into clicking them, only to find out that they first of all have nothing to do with the kind of porn you're looking for but also want you to throw money at them for the "full" movie. Then quality. Sure, it's nice that thousands of people make movies of their shagging sessions, and if you're into the "amateur" style and want to see non-professionals "do it", you'll get plenty. Well, some people prefer quality. And quality is hard to find. Most people have no idea about lighting, camera angles (seriously, most use a steady cam and hope that it doesn't wobble too much while the bed springs are creaking) or offering the viewer a pleasing experience. On the average porn tube you can most likely spend an afternoon watching those 2 minute flicks without seeing a single good one.

      They can compete there. A well done porn movie of the kind you like, right now, right here, throw 5 bucks at me and you get it. You think people wouldn't use that service? I'm pretty sure a lot would.

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    3. Re:pretty high margin - so cut your price by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I don't think anythings really more easier then going to 'youporn.com'. Hell, you could go to the bathroom, fire a site up on your smart phone and bust one out in a few minutes.

      Porn on TV? how quaint.

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    4. Re:pretty high margin - so cut your price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no kidding...

      just popping over to the local rental place (if you still have them) or a redbox and it is half or less. If you are more technically savvy (and in some cases you do not have to be) you can get VOD for *much* cheaper.

      10 a pop? No thank you when I can get for 8 bucks a month free 2 day shipping and free movies from Amazon. You can outright *BUY* the movie in most cases for less... Then turn around and dump it for half price and still come out cheaper...

    5. Re:pretty high margin - so cut your price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is everyone saying this is due to free porn. Free video porn has been online for over a decade, almost two. The pricing is the problem. Look at it. One movie for one night for over $10. How many high quality, both visual and talent, website out there offer a month for under $20. Plus many of those are subscriptions to their entire catalog of sites. So you may spend $20, typically less, a month for access to greater than 500 movies easy versus spending $10 for one movie for one night.

      Example: BangBros, 30 sites, over 6000 scenes, more than 5000 hours of porn. $25 monthly, $50 for three months, or $90 for a year. Another thing to consider is that they also offer a 3 day trial for $5. Five bucks for three days to access over 6000 scenes. Versus $10 for one movie for one night.

      This has nothing to do with free porn and everything to do with being overpriced when access to the better quality and better quantity is easy to get at.

  10. Crap content all round is your problem, not porn by syousef · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem isn't porn. It's the quality of TV. There has been a steady decline in the quality of television since the 80s. As if 80s TV was great to begin with. Free Internet porn has been around for about a decade, but Sy-Fi (pronounced sy-phi-lus) has only been around for a little while. Watching people in cooking, renovating, buying real-estate, singing and dance competitions eliminate each other off the "reality" tv landscape as they act like selfish twats is getting old just as "talk shows" like Jerry Springer did once the shock factor wore off. Not to mention the stupid reality TV shows that follow around self-proclaim no-talent know-nothing bimbo "stars" like the Krapdashians So you cable execs need to take a bit of responsibility for your own stupidity in creating and buying bad TV instead of trying to blame people who already have their hand on their genitals and are openly admitting it by watching your crappy porn. You know you have trouble when you've managed to alienate even seasoned wankers!

    Anyway who seriously needs or wants HD at $10 a pop to get aroused? Sometimes less detail is better. ASCII porn was popular back in the day and I remember idiotic strip poker on the Apple IIe back in the early 80s. But I guess having an imagination is so yesterday.

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  11. More data caps on the way... by zerofoo · · Score: 2

    As pay-for-tv companies start to see their video revenues decline, be ready for the severe data caps that will follow.

    Cable and Telcos will fight to the death to keep from becoming dumb pipe providers, and thanks to our lack of net neutrality laws, or any sort of real competition in data services, they might succeed.

    -ted

    1. Re:More data caps on the way... by aggie_knight · · Score: 1

      Which is exactly why I'm sticking with Netflix regardless of how pissed I am about a 60% price increase this year. With our bought/sold politicians, the only way we are going to get any semblance of net neutrality is if the competing companies that want to provide video/data services become strong enough to take on the ISPs in Washington. Of course, the biggest problem my strategy has is that nothing prevents Netflix from working a deal with Time Warner to not have their streaming count against the cap.

    2. Re:More data caps on the way... by krinderlin · · Score: 1

      While it's likely that the price increases will come with reduced data caps, I think there is room for someone to finally do the right thing.

      I think I'd rather see a 25% price increase in my internet, no data caps, and some pretty granular à la carte IPTV choices than the current industry state and prices. We recently cut the cord to the TV and dropped down to a fairly fast internet plan with our provider, Comcast. They called me back and tried to convince me to pick back up the TV plan for some pretty insanely low rates. Still, to get the three to five channels I actually watched and recorded shows from regularly, I would've had to pay out $60 more above what I was paying with just the internet and 90 other channels I have little to no interest in funding, period.

      On the other hand, if my cable company offered to just give me HGTV, and BBC America for say, $5 each per month, I would've gladly signed back up.

    3. Re:More data caps on the way... by Ichijo · · Score: 1

      Data caps are only needed for prime Internet usage hours to keep the data pipe from getting congested. Broadband ISPs really ought to embrace the "unlimited nights and weekends" model used by the cell phone companies, although in this case it might be 10pm-6am.

      With some kind of congestion management like this in place, ISPs can sell more bandwidth using the same infrastructure and offer lower priced data plans, and customers can further economize by scheduling their movie downloads for the wee hours.

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    4. Re:More data caps on the way... by straponego · · Score: 1

      I reckon they'll start lobbying to make free web porn illegal. Probably by requiring a credit card be involved to "protect the children." Anything that causes ISPs or the *AA to make less money than they'd prefer is criminal, after all.

  12. Why no mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of their consideration of a pay-per-GB pricing for internet? Isn't that closer to the news for nerds - stuff that matters than where your average luddite is getting his rocks off?

    1. Re:Why no mention by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Because they're two faces of the same problem. Or rather, one problem follows the other one.

      A downturn in video sales means that they somehow have to keep the people from using the internet to stream movies so they'd rather buy their movies again. See where this is heading?

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  13. As a TWC customer... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    ... I can tell you there is a lot of porn available for VOD. Often when I use the directory to search for shows by names, I end up with results porn results coming back when I am typing in the name of the show I am looking for.

    I will say from reading the descriptions that they do a fairly good job of covering the various generic fetishes, too. Any ethnicity you can imagine wanting to watch do whatever you might want, it's there...

    Although I can't imagine wanting to pay my cable company to watch that, even considering the fact that the cable bill comes out of my checking account automatically without a printed bill ever mailed to my house...

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    1. Re:As a TWC customer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True, but having actually watched one of those when I first got my fancy digital box, it seems that they've been heavily edited to only have the stuff you normally fast-forward. You're lucky to even see genitalia, let alone genital on genital action.

      I've seen better softcore accidentally hit the shelf at blockbuster.

  14. Porn is always the First Mover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As they say, Porn is the first adopter of technology. If this is the direction it moves, expect other VOD to follow

  15. Cue 8mm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where's my RAPE channel?

    I just don't know why having sex at gunpoint is about the only thing that gets my rocks off.

    1. Re:Cue 8mm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called FOX NEWS.

    2. Re:Cue 8mm by 2names · · Score: 1

      It's called CSPAN. Watch the daily rape of the American people with some pillaging and burning thrown in for good measure.

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  16. Internet Costs Will Go Up by geoffrobinson · · Score: 1

    As TV and pay per view/On Demand revenue goes down and gets cannibalized by the Internet, Internet service costs are going to go up. I fear we'll pay one way or the other.

    It's sort of like driving like a jerk. If everyone does it, there won't be any gains. Not that there is anything wrong at all with using the Internet to save costs and consume media.

    The cable companies will do as much as possible to prolong the old paradigm. Or at least keep you subscribing (things like HBO GO).

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  17. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they really charge 10$ per vid? Friggin ridiculous... For twice that you'll probably get a blow job.

  18. I don't know a single happy Time Warner customer. by Narcocide · · Score: 2

    Seriously, every single person I know who subscribes to their services does so either because they have no other choice or because they were told by the landlord when they moved in that they had no other choice. Not a single one of them would keep the service if they had any other choice for cable.

    While its an interesting theory that it is the internet that is causing the decline in Time Warner's revenue, and it is true that I know people who finally have gotten so fed up with them that they have decided to just use Hulu, Youtube and Netflix as their "TV service" instead, I honestly don't see that as even remotely reasonable evidence that the fault here lies with the internet. It seems pretty clear to me that what is eating into Time Warner's revenue is the shitty quality of their service across the board, from price to support to reliability it is just unacceptable, and always has been. People finally learning that? Boo-hoo, Time Warner. Maybe you guys should sack up and start caring about uptime, channel selection and customer service.

  19. Perfect Irony by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

    Warner Bro's cable having to publicly discuss their lack of profits on porn assets when their monopoly is primarily in areas where people have swallowed the religiosity pill. They are so fucked.

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    1. Re:Perfect Irony by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my experience. religious nuts are the best customers for porn. First, they're happy with even the blurriest, crappiest kind of "Sally does Houston" movie because they're happy with anything that comes remotely to sex. And even if they don't like it, they'd rather swallow the money they lost than admitting they watch porn. Plus, lacking any other kind of "stimulation", they need lots of it.

      Yes, religious nuts are certainly the best customers you could probably have as a porn producer. Why do you think the countries with the biggest number of religious nuts also have some of the biggest porn industries?

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    2. Re:Perfect Irony by operagost · · Score: 1

      their monopoly is primarily in areas where people have swallowed the religiosity pill.

      Do you have any proof of this, or are you just throwing that out there and hoping it sticks? Not that it would mean anything anyway.

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    3. Re:Perfect Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Warner Bro's cable having to publicly discuss their lack of profits on porn assets when their monopoly is primarily in areas where people have swallowed the religiosity pill. They are so fucked.

      Emphasis mine. Predictably dull puns notwithstanding, I am not sure how you logically get from the first emphasized part to the second one. The first one sort of implies the implausibility of the second one.

    4. Re:Perfect Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, that's bullshit. You're trying to tell me that porn is bigger in conservative, repressed areas than in places like Vegas, LA, NYC, etc? Looking worldwide, your statement makes even less sense.

    5. Re:Perfect Irony by black+soap · · Score: 1

      http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html

      Would you like fries with that?

    6. Re:Perfect Irony by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is. There is also more than one simple, logical reason for it.

      If I am gay and can't go out and meet a guy in a bar, twice so if fearing blackmail or being spotted, the logical outlet is porn. If prostitution is legal and you can actually hire someone to live out your sexual fetish instead of wanking to someone indulging in it, which would you choose?

      Worldwide, you will notice that countries that are highly religious (or otherwise repressive towards porn) but at the same time have legalized porn are a godsend for the porn industry. Note that I should maybe mention that the social stigma attached to porn needn't be religious motivated. Japan has one of the biggest porn industries (and one of the most avid spenders, with annual per capita spending reaching the three digits), though I blame that more on a highly rigid and socially repressive and forcibly conformist society than on religion.

      Well, considering porn, religion isn't anything but social conformity enforcement.

      You'll notice that most of Europe with its rather casual attitude towards sexuality has a very low per capita spending on porn. Yes, even in Italy. Though I can't explain why Finland is up there with Japan, maybe it's just too friggin' cold most of the year to go out and find a prostitute. Or the Fins are into stuff even prostitutes won't do, I honestly don't know. Maybe someone from Finland can shed some light on that. What it boils down to, usually, is simply, if porn is legal and your society stigmatizes sexuality and expression thereof, the porn industry soars.

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    7. Re:Perfect Irony by operagost · · Score: 1

      Well, first you have to assume that McCain is conservative, then you have assume that Montana is a blue state, then you have ignore the fact that since Obama got a lot more votes than McCain, a mere 60% majority of the lowest-porn states having voted for him is just following the expected distribution. You sure shut me up!

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    8. Re:Perfect Irony by black+soap · · Score: 1

      I don't have to assume anything. I didn't write the article. Nice rant, though.

  20. Yes they did (tweet tweet) by tepples · · Score: 1

    Dinosaurs are a bad example of not evolving. They survived through an asteroid disaster and became birds. Whether TWC will follow the birds' example is the question here.

    1. Re:Yes they did (tweet tweet) by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Not exactly. Dinosaurs and birds (or at least bird-like dinosaurs) coexisted, and the vast majority of dinosaurs were straight killed off in the Chixulub impact.

      Much like the music industry. Those that were early or already prepared to adopt new business models will survive, while the big dumb ones are utterly unprepared and incapable of changing in time, and will die off.

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    2. Re:Yes they did (tweet tweet) by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, the dinosaurs of this age might survive as well. Provided they do like their predecessors and get used to the new times.

      Ya know, the really big ones, they went the road of the dodo. Might be a hint...

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    3. Re:Yes they did (tweet tweet) by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Just last week I saw an descendent of the velociraptor walking around.

      Crocodiles are so tough they didn't even need to evolve.

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    4. Re:Yes they did (tweet tweet) by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      Today all they would need to survive is to hire a really good lobbyist firm.

    5. Re:Yes they did (tweet tweet) by jafac · · Score: 1

      Ya know, the really big ones, they went the road of the dodo. Might be a hint...

      so, you're saying. . . midget porn is what will save them?

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  21. Classic puns intended by Swaziboy · · Score: 1

    "To be fair, drooping porn", "adult to go down" whomever wrote that press-release should be given a medal.

    1. Re:Classic puns intended by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "whoever".

      Unless you think "him wrote that press release" is accurate.

    2. Re:Classic puns intended by Swaziboy · · Score: 1

      hmm, I do believe you are correct. -1 grammar for me.

    3. Re:Classic puns intended by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's called the 'Giggity' award.

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  22. Porn industry wanted bail out money by BetaDays · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Porn industry wanted bail out money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To BIG to go flacid

    2. Re:Porn industry wanted bail out money by operagost · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to figure out what sexual act "bail out" is supposed to be slang for.

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  23. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Tridus · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it's true. The number of channels has ballooned, but the money for quality content has not. So to fill all the extra space they need a lot of very cheap programming.

    It's even worse in Canada, where we have the government dictating that we get the Canadian version of the channel instead, which is almost always an inferior version with some very low budget crap thrown in to pad the schedule and meet content requirements. The business model of these channels doesn't even depend on getting viewers, it depends on getting into a bundle with a more popular channel so people are forced to pay you monthly for something they don't watch. (Most Canadian specialty channels make more revenue from subscription fees then they do from ads, and it's not even close in a lot of cases.)

    The whole thing is a bubble ready to burst, and Netflix was something of a tipping point on that front.

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  24. How do you stay in business? by jcr · · Score: 1

    From what I can tell, all kinds of porn is available without paying for it. Whatever the niche you're serving, can't they just google it?

    -jcr

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    1. Re:How do you stay in business? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Sure. But the question is, do you want to sift through endless amounts of badly done half-assed (no pun intended) attempts at creating a good porn movie or simply drop a few bucks and save your time?

      I'm fairly sure a lot of people would pay a few bucks to get a good porn of their liking damn right now instead of having to browse through $whatever_porn_youtube's stack of $fetish or allegedly-$fetish (because tagged as such but instead just advertising for some completely different kind of porn) movies for minutes/hours 'til they find the single one that's worth looking at.

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    2. Re:How do you stay in business? by zget · · Score: 1

      Yes, all kinds of porn is available without paying for it. But in substantially lesser amounts, in lesser quality and that doesn't offer you exactly what you want. Lets say you're interested to get sex scenes from movies because that turns you on. You could spend lots of time googling for them all, never really finding everything and never having them organized neatly. Or you could just spend some cash and get a subscription where they are all nicely organized, nicely searchable and nicely categorized. Even for those who know how to find it free, it might be about how much they value their time, the effort they have to put into it and the quality of the service they get.

    3. Re:How do you stay in business? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      There has never been in any product area with this sort of certainty. You seem to think you can blindly depend on it, but you can't. You can blissfully blow a lot of money on payware content and still get nothing but crap. Doesn't matter what it is. Films of any sort are the same way. If you pay for something sight unseen, you are likely just throwing your money away.

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    4. Re:How do you stay in business? by jcr · · Score: 1

      So your value-add is filtering?

      Could you explain the economics of it a bit? What kind of revenues are you seeing against what kind of costs?

      -jcr

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    5. Re:How do you stay in business? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That's why they'd have to up their quality level. If you know that on average you get good quality, you're more likely to throw money that way. If you know you get about the same quality level that you could get for free, well, nobody is going to pay for that.

      As long as the creed is "hell, no matter what porn, as long as it's porn they'll be happy", this will of course not work.

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    6. Re:How do you stay in business? by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 2

      Have you ever tried Cheggit.net ? It's pretty good, or so I hear from my deviant friends :-).
      I think people actually prefer not paying for porn to avoid the paper trail. It's silly but it's still stigmatized.

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    7. Re:How do you stay in business? by Anrego · · Score: 1

      Problem with that is you lose repeat business.

      People with niche interests will keep buying more if they like what they are getting. They recommend it to their friends with the same niche interest. If you are serving a small market, this is all important stuff.

    8. Re:How do you stay in business? by zget · · Score: 1

      I don't know the economics as I haven't been directly involved with that, but it is a very profitable business. Also remember that someone has to pay to produce all that content on free tube sites. Some of it is real amateur video (there's also a lot of paid "amateur" content), but most of it is produced content. That isn't there just for the funs, it's there to attract users to their paid sites. Someone interested in the niche most likely also is a long time customer. When the free tube sites refer a customer, they usually are paid between $50-100 or even more. Usually the convert ratio is 1:1000, that is one paying customer per 1000 visitors for US, less for other countries. With the amount of traffic those sites get, you can figure out if they're making good money or not. And this is only for the free tube sites.

    9. Re:How do you stay in business? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure. But the question is, do you want to sift through endless amounts of badly done half-assed (no pun intended) attempts at creating a good porn movie?

      >

      Umm.. Yes!

    10. Re:How do you stay in business? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my expericence, the pay porn usually is *worse*. Since 1. they arenâ(TM)t as extreme, and hence boring (âoeI canâ(TM)t go back to Playboy now!â), and 2. they have *less* variety.

      As people say:
      You could ask the Internet: âoeI want to see sex with goats on fireâ, and the Internet would answer: âoeWhich kind of goats?â.

      Also: Pterodactyl porn for godâ(TM)s sake!! Not that itâ(TM)s my thing, but ⦠sorry, you just canâ(TM)t compete with that! ;)

    11. Re:How do you stay in business? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      The smart sights use porn movies to get people interested in purchasing adult merchandise.

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    12. Re:How do you stay in business? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Have you ever been on the internet? seriously.

      "But in substantially lesser amounts,"
      What? all porn about everything is on the internet.

      " in lesser quality "
      Are you posting from 1995? There are sites giving away free high quality porn. Top of the line performers. in HD.

      "Lets say you're interested to get sex scenes from movies because that turns you on. "

      ah, I see you are just 'fishing' for someone to find it for you. Nice try.
      I can get several movies of any fetish in 30 seconds. For free. Legitimately.

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    13. Re:How do you stay in business? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how Sturgeons Law applies.
      'Nothing is certain' is different then 'you are likely just throwing money way'.

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    14. Re:How do you stay in business? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Or do you want to find a reliable sight you can return to that has everything, for free.

      Your complaint is more like "Paying for porn is for people who can't think of search terms."

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    15. Re:How do you stay in business? by Migraineman · · Score: 2

      The last time I paid for pr0n, (needed supplementary materials for my brother's bachelor party,) I made the mistake of paying with a credit card. Within a week, I was receiving rather graphic advertisements in the mail from all manner of adult material suppliers. Apparently I had been classified as "a live one," and every money-grubbing distributor was out to get a cut of the action. It actually felt a bit desperate, honestly, as there were many teaser introductory offers just to get me on the hook. Being single at the time, I really can't say I objected to the additional reading material. However, that was pre-wife and pre-kids. Now, I really don't want the kids retrieving the mail, asking what the white envelope labeled "Up Your Ass Productions" contains.

      Selling my purchasing info to *anyone* is a mistake, regardless of the industry, and it pretty much guarantees that you'll lose my future business. Maybe the stats favor the immediate gain over the future "maybe" business, but it changes my "maybe" into a solid "no." I just don't see the folks in the pr0n business having the discipline to pass up the quick buck for a stable business model. So I don't give them my money (i.e. I don't reward bad behavior.) I don't want the follow-up push in this case, and it has nothing to do with social stigma.

    16. Re:How do you stay in business? by dissy · · Score: 1

      Or do you want to find a reliable sight you can return to that has everything

      You mean like a girl friend?

      , for free.

      Er, oh, I guess not ;}

      *ducks*

    17. Re:How do you stay in business? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI,

      Cheggit is a site that runs a private bittorrent tracker. You're not giving anyone a credit card number or your address.

    18. Re:How do you stay in business? by EdIII · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, but Grasshopper, sometimes the journey is more important than the destination.

    19. Re:How do you stay in business? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Not when it comes to porn. Imagine you're looking for your pet fetish and some $your_favorite_turnoff porn is mislabeled as such. It sure ruins your journey, and I at least wouldn't be interesting in the destination anymore.

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  25. Well Duh! by tgeek · · Score: 1

    Who wants to pay for "drooping porn'? I can get that at home - show me some "big and bouncy porn" or "petite and perky porn" or anything but "drooping porn"!

  26. Maybe the Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I never understood their pricing model for porn. I can see a $100,000,000 hollywood blockbuster for about $6. A $10,000 porn title runs $10. I bet if the porn titles were $2 people would use the convenience of VOD. Or they could do some sort of all the porn you can watch for $20/month

    1. Re:Maybe the Price by Larryish · · Score: 1

      All you can watch for $20.00 per month?

      Simply fap-ulous, darling!

    2. Re:Maybe the Price by asdf7890 · · Score: 2

      Dropping the price would not increase sales that much: most people not already paying for porn wouldn't pay for it if it were cheaper either because they don't want it on a credit card or cable account bill (where others, like the wife, could find it) or in the case of cable because watching it via cable isn't as easy to do quite as surreptitiously.

      So the price of a porn flick doesn't drop due to demand numbers like a big hollywood film would.

      That, and there is the "what the market will bare" thing. The current price is where they would see a noticeable drop-off in sales were it any higher, or the extra sales would not be enough to make up for the difference if they made it lower.

      I don't think I've every paid for porn unless you count using the Internet connection that I do pay for as indirectly paying for it, or if you count getting a beating for stealing my elder brother's stash (in earlier life) as payment. $2 or $10 makes no odds to me: I'll not pay anyway.

    3. Re:Maybe the Price by Tweezer · · Score: 3

      Are there wives out there that don't know they have husbands watching porn? Here's a clue for them. If they have a boyfriend or husband he watches porn at least occasionally. There are no exceptions. If they think their guy isn't like the rest and is somehow special, they are naive and wrong. Men are hard wired for this stuff, just because they watch porn doesn't mean they don't love their mate.

    4. Re:Maybe the Price by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      "Dropping the price would not increase sales that much"

      I don't know about that. $10-$20 for a VOD seems crazy. Dropping it to $1 or $2 plants it right in impulse buy territory. The kind of thing someone might buy because the title is interesting/amusing just to see what's up. Who cares if they watch it all? They paid already.

      I think you can look at the Apple app store for proof of this, plenty of people are willing to plop down a buck for a new fart app just to see if it's better than the OTHER fart app they bought.

    5. Re:Maybe the Price by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      But would the 90% drop in price ($10..20 -> $1..2) increase the sales by 900% (needed to break even on the change) or more? Break even and a little more would not be nearly good enough either because the cost of providing the content to 1000 people at $1 each is going to be higher than the cost of providing it to 100 people for $10 each (there will be some bandwidth and management costs somewhere in the system for each viewer). Porn is not going to be a "just happened to be browsing the store and saw it" impulse buy in the same way you might happen upon something on iTunes, nor is it likely to "go viral" like Angry Birds.

    6. Re:Maybe the Price by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      Yes their are. And many many arguments start because the truth is found!

      Also in many relationships the partner 1 knows partner 2 watches porn, and partner 2 knows (or at least strongly suspects) that partner 1 knows, but it is just one of those things that is not discussed and is kept hidden.

      Then again I live in repressed brit land, maybe in other parts of Europe these things are more openly accepted and not "hidden" as much. Though I'm guessing some other places (the highly indoctrinated bible-belt areas spring to mind) where it goes the other way and people lying and partners being naive enough to trust on the matter is the common case.

    7. Re:Maybe the Price by Hydian · · Score: 1

      This may come as a shock to you, but you are not representative of everybody.

      Yes, *some* people will not pay for it no matter what it costs because they are cheap bastards. *Some* people will not pay for what the cable company offers no matter what it costs because it simply doesn't appeal to them.

      However, *some* people will pay for it if it is cheaper because it is a lot more convenient to just find it on the TV than search for it on the internet and the TV screen is a lot larger than their monitor (yes, we can run our video feeds through modern TVs via several methods...not everyone is savvy enough to do this.) *Some* people pay for porn on the internet now (some pay quite a lot.)

      The question is simply economics. At what price point do they maximize their profits? They felt that it was $10, but sales are dropping off so maybe that is no longer true. Or maybe it is and the entire business model is simply not as profitable as it once was. The porn industry has changed over the years. Full length feature movies with plots (such as they are) and dialogue (for what it was worth) are no longer the norm. Now just about everything is 15 - 20 minute chunks of activity and a DVD is simply several of those chunks or scenes spliced together with no narrative.

    8. Re:Maybe the Price by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      Considering they view it as "high margin", the mark up must be pretty large. They may only need to increase sales 200%. Who knows though? No way of knowing unless the cable providers disclose the cost of getting and broadcasting the porn.

  27. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by kannibal_klown · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem isn't porn. It's the quality of TV. There has been a steady decline in the quality of television since the 80s. As if 80s TV was great to begin with

    I don't agree with that., but that's just my personal opinion.

    Sure, TV is still filled with tons of trash. We have more "Reality TV" and the music channels (like MTV) don't do much anymore, we stil have tons of Soap Operas an your basic sitcoms.

    But some TV-shows have evolved, since just about all TV in the 80's were directed at the whole family (youngsters included) while now we the separate out the shows for adults, kids, etc.

    Crime Shows / Mysteries
    Crime shows are darker and grittier with more mature content; less fantasy, more reality. Instead of them walking into a room with a body under a sheet and the main character saying "they went to town on her" now they're allowed to say specifically what happened like "due to vaginal tearing we can tell she was raped" and include some science and forensics in the investigation. IE, talking about something new or interesting in forensics (and thus teach something) instead of Columbo picking up a blonde hair with his bare hands and saying "Aha."

    They also try to be realistic; now-a-days our cop shows try to be very realistic, at least compared to Starsky and Hutch or TJ Hooker.

    Meanwhile the motive also tend to be more varied since they're allowed to cover more sensitive areas. Sure, the motives still revolve around money / love / revenge but due to the "standards" of the 80s they could only say or do so many things. Now it can be "they assaulted my daughter" or "my wife gave me AIDS" or "my husband left me for another man."

    Sure, Jessica from "Murder She Wrote" and Columbo were charismatic and all-around good... but so are characters like Adrian Monk, Elliot Stabler, Shawn Spencer, etc. And most of them demonstrate more personality than some of the old TV characters. Face it, Jessica was nice but was otherwise a plain/vanilla polite older woman.

    Adventure / Heroes / SciFi
    Compare the first season of Heroes with the $6million Man or the Bionic Woman. Special effects aside, there is a LOT more complexity in the newer shows than those old hits. The characters are dealing with more personal demons or concepts, instead of the Bionic Woman having 1 or 2 episodes where she was depressed about not being a real woman anymore.

    The recent Battlestar Galactica wasn't everyone's cup of tea. But go back and watch the original, seriously go and watch a marathon. It was the same 3 or 4 flight sequences shown over and over, it was VERY family oriented and/or directed to 7-year-olds. There was little/no realistic reaction to being the survivors of a holocaust. And the science fiction elements were quite rare. With the remake we got more cerebral discussions on politics, philosophy, and emotion. AND we got more in-depth science fiction descriptions and discussions: AI, FTL, how this widget works, etc.

    Star Trek: granted the original series was the 60s and not the 80s. But in the original we didn't get much explanation for the events going on, just the occasional strange alien that had a weird ability. Did we learn how their FTL work, no just that it required dilithium crystals. The Next Generation / DS9 / Voyager really put the sci-fi elements to shame. We got real-life theories on how stuff might work, some real biology terms, and some fake techno-babble.

    Catoons
    And don't get me started on cartoons. Try watching some 80's era Transformers, GI Joe, Smurfs, etc. Taking off the rose-colored glasses and you'll see they were lame... even for the targetted age-groups. Now watch one of the DCAU cartoons (Justice League, Batman TAS, etc), or Young Justice, or Generator Rex, or heck even the Thundercats or Transformers revivals going on now. More mature, more cerebral, better animation, etc. Sure there's still Sponge Bob and Adventure Time but they try to make things more complex

  28. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by grub · · Score: 0


    Do they really charge 10$ per vid? Friggin ridiculous... For twice that you'll probably get a blow job.

    and AIDS.

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  29. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Internet is for porn, no the cable.

  30. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by royallthefourth · · Score: 1

    There has been a steady decline in the quality of television since the 80s. As if 80s TV was great to begin with.

    TV was called a "vast wasteland" in 1961. It's always been terrible.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_Speech

    Click that link; it's a good, quick couple paragraphs to read.

  31. Don't forget..... by ProfanityHead · · Score: 2

    People like me who, 2.5 years ago, said FU big cable companies and pulled the plug completely. There is plenty to see in full bandwidth HD over the airwaves (as opposed to compressed to hell and back before the cable company send it down my wire). All I miss is ESPN. TNT would be nice during the NBA playoffs. All in all I save $100/month (at least) and still see most NFL games I want.

    ESPN should set up local OTA affiliates, I'd pay $10/month. Besides that I won't pay for any television.

    1. Re:Don't forget..... by jackbird · · Score: 1

      ESPN is Disney, and ESPN is the stick they use to get cable operators to carry a whole bunch of Disney channels with lower viewership at fairly high prices. You won't be seeing ESPN OTA affiliates ever.

    2. Re:Don't forget..... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Change your sports tastes. I stopped watching Baseball and started watching Soccer. I get an AMAZING amount of all I can eat free HD soccer and Rugby from FTA satellite that is brain dead easy to install. Costs nothing but the $199 receiver and the $99.00 dish and pointer and a weekend to install it.

      https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Free-to-air

      http://www.gosatellite.com/ is where I shop... as well as ...
      http://www.sadoun.com/

      Works great, and is wife friendly as well. Plus if you are not a typical american it opens up a TON of international programming as well.

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    3. Re:Don't forget..... by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      MLB, at least as far as American sports go, is pretty receptive to internet streaming with the MLB.TV stuff. Not free though, but much cheaper than a $100/mo cable subscription just for sports.

  32. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    Well, there is hope. TLC finally gave Kate Gosselin the boot! Unfortunately, she was replaced by Big Hair Alaska, a new reality show about Sarah Palin's hairdresser in Wasilla. Yikes!

  33. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except for Space, its now a vastly superior channel to Sy-Fy,

  34. All my porn by Chuby007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    All my porn consists of a 5 minute video, that I play over and over again... no need for more than that, it gets the JOB done..

    1. Re:All my porn by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      Surely if you've watched that same 5 minutes so many times you can just, err, do it from memory?

    2. Re:All my porn by geekoid · · Score: 1

      How boring. OTOH, my wife and I share porn, so.... I win.

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    3. Re:All my porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTFS: there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down

      Sorry to be the one to break it to whoever wrote TFS, but adults have always been going down.

    4. Re:All my porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only until they get married.

    5. Re:All my porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Careful - you see what it did for the guy on the movie Brain Storm!

    6. Re:All my porn by Chuby007 · · Score: 1

      How boring. OTOH, my wife and I share porn, so.... I win.

      my Wife and I have sex, so I win and .. checkmate !

    7. Re:All my porn by Chuby007 · · Score: 1

      I have sexual amnesia.

  35. $10 renting a single video? by paziek · · Score: 1

    $10 for renting a single video? I think thats the problem. I could buy video for $10-15, but rent for $1-2. Those prices are unreasonable.

  36. One word. Lex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey Time-Warner! Maybe you people can start featuring more videos with Lex destroying the babes then you may be able to stem the tide a bit. Oh and keep the softcore for the ladies.

  37. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nah because without condom would definitely be extra.

  38. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

    Ahem.. new CN programs like Adventure Time and Regular Show are light years away from Sponge Bob. AT and RS work with little kids but watch them sometime and you'll see a whole lot of elements in there that are directed directly at 25-40 year olds... lots of references to old video games, inside jokes for the parents, etc. They are have more in common with the old Warner Brothers shorts meant for all ages than anything from the 1980s and clearly have jokes that the little ones won't get. There is a lot of great programming on Cartoon Network, but that is one of the exceptions on Cable right now. TNT and AMC are a couple of others and most of the other networks are no longer even trying.

  39. Buying porn is not anonymous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are giving your name, other subscription related datasets, and [i]your sexual preferences[/i] to your cable company.

    1. Re:Buying porn is not anonymous. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The midget stuff is for a research project. Honest.

  40. Intelectual property... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they can patent sex and sue people who do it without a license?

    Also it seems appropriate this time: WTF?

  41. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by operagost · · Score: 3, Funny

    Face it, Jessica was nice but was otherwise a plain/vanilla polite older woman.

    That's what she WANTED you to think. In reality, she was the most diabolical sociopath to ever live, able to murder dozens of people and not only pin the crime on others but usually get them to CONFESS to it! How else can you explain a writer "stumbling" into so many murders?

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  42. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    Go down to your local dildo shop and BUY most porn DVD's for $9.99 still sealed and free of bodily fluids. What idiot does PPV Porn? OH I know who... the Teenager at home when mom and dad go out of town and dad is a moron and never looks at the cable bill.

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  43. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    "less fantasy, more reality."

    have you WATCHED CSI? It's 98% fantasy and 2% made up crap. 0% reality.

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  44. ob Family Guy by geekoid · · Score: 1

    'One of the things going on with VOD is that there's been fairly steady trends over some time period now for adult to go down..." Giggity -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDPrpzbIUgg&feature=related

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  45. What are the respective shared in usage for porn by mallyn · · Score: 1
    I hope this is not a troll or flame bait, but I cannot resist asking . . .

    Has anyone figured out the share of network traffic that is used for porn?

    Has anyone figured out the share of cable tv traffic that is used for porn?

    I ask this because in the old days, there was perhaps one adult theater for almost 50 to 100 regular movie theaters. Likewise, there is about 1 'dirty' book store for ever 50 to 100 'clean' or regular book stores.

    I am talking of the 1960's and 1970's, prior to mass cable and internet.

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  46. HOW MUCH?!?!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ten dollars for RENTING a porn video? No wonder they're getting their porn elsewhere.

  47. Re:I don't know a single happy Time Warner custome by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    The FCC states that the landlord can suck it in his bunghole. People really need to become more educated.

    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has created laws that protect a tenant's right to buy satellite dish service. The FCC regulations prevent landlords from making rules that unfairly restrict a tenant's ability to install a dish on rental property. This page attempts to explain the FCC's laws. It is not clear, however, how the laws will apply in many cases.

    Before any of the following rules can help a tenant, two conditions must be satisfied:

            The tenant must have a place to put the satellite that he/she does not share with other tenants, such as a balcony or patio.
            The satellite dish that the tenant plans to install must be less than one meter (39.37 inches) in diameter. These rules also apply to installation of TV antennas and wireless antennas.

    Note: A tenant's subsidized housing status does not affect eligibility under the FCC rules.

    What restrictions can the landlord put on my ability to install a satellite?

            Rules that don't unfairly harm your satellite service;
            Clearly-defined safety restrictions;
            Restrictions to protect historical buildings; and
            Restrictions to prevent property damage. For example, the landlord may prevent you from drilling a hole in your wall.

    What can't the landlord do to restrict my ability to install a satellite on the rental property?

    Under most circumstances, the landlord's rules about satellite installation cannot do the following things:

            Unfairly increase the cost of purchasing a satellite service.
            Significantly delay or stop you from obtaining a satellite service.
            Stop you from receiving quality reception.

    These rules are vague. You may need to contact the FCC (see below) to see how they apply to you.

    How much can my landlord increase the cost of my dish? Can he make me pay a deposit?

    Fees that the landlord can require before allowing you to install a dish may vary. In some cases, a $5 fee may be too high; however, under different circumstances, that same fee might be fine. In some situations, the rules may also forbid a landlord from collecting a deposit. If you think the landlord has unfairly increased your costs, read the section below that explains how to contact the FCC.

    Can the landlord make me pay an insurance policy before I can install a dish?

    Maybe. The federal government has not said whether insurance policies are unfair. If you believe this is unfair, read the section below that explains how to contact the FCC.

    Can the landlord make me fill out a permit before I can have a dish?

    Maybe. In some cases, permits have been found to unfairly delay a person's satellite service. Some permits, however, may be allowed. If you think your landlord's permit unfairly delays your ability to get a dish, contact the FCC.

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  48. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Or a teenager decided to gets a spoofed card fr the cable box and no one know what he did.

    In the 70s, I built a circuit so I could descramble the porn.

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  49. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Do you even watch spongebob? there are tons of jokes clearly aimed at parents.

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  50. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by zget · · Score: 1

    Do they really charge 10$ per vid? Friggin ridiculous... For twice that you'll probably get a blow job.

    and AIDS.

    You have absolutely zero change of getting AIDS as a receiver end of a blow job. This has been scientifically proven. There is a little risk on the giving part, but it is also insignificant.

  51. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

    Ahem.. new CN programs like Adventure Time and Regular Show are light years away from Sponge Bob. .

    Don't get me wrong, I watch more Cartoon Network that I care to admit. While I don't watch much Adventure Time or The Regular Show I have seen them and know they are NOT the Snorks / Smurfs / etc. And The Venture Brothers are one of my favorite shows period, just behind Archer (from FX).

    But for argument's sake I wanted to stick with the more action-oriented shows were people actually get hurt and there are deeper plots comparing to similar shows from the 80s (Justice League vs Super Friends / GI Joe Renegades vs 80s G Joe / Thundercats remake vs 80s Thundercats / etc).

    It's hard to make an argument that cartoons are more hard-core now than before if the reader doesn't know anything about AT or RS and just did a quick Google Image Search and see primitive art w/ rainbows and birds they might ask WTF I was smoking by saying they are more advanced than old shows.

  52. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    The recent Battlestar Galactica wasn't everyone's cup of tea. But go back and watch the original, seriously go and watch a marathon

    I just did. BSG (the new one), Caprica and BSG (the original) plus BSG 1980 (the time travel one).

    BSG (the new one, way too soapy for my liking, 'soap in space' pretty much sums it up for me but enough of that)

    BSG (the original one) I SWEAR that the original script was written in a language other than English and they used a primitive version of Google translate to render it into English.

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  53. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And don't get me started on cartoons. Try watching some 80's era Transformers, GI Joe, Smurfs, etc. Taking off the rose-colored glasses and you'll see they were lame... even for the targetted age-groups.

    Well, it was nice knowing this user. After even the slightest murmur in a forum populated by a bunch of children-of-the-80s-and-90s nerds that 80s era cartoons were anything less than whatever equivalent of the second coming of the Messiah is to them, I suspect the next we hear about kannibal_klown will be the grisly autopsy report, complete with the description of the crime scene, including such details as "the culprits repeatedly wrote the phrase 'MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE' on the walls using the victim's blood, most likely as a warning".

    I mean, assuming the Japanophiles don't get to him first for failure to show proper worship to their favoritest cartoons ever when discussing animation of any form. Those lunatics are ruthless.

  54. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by geekoid · · Score: 1

    ". There has been a steady decline in the quality of television since the 80s."
    Wrong. There are fasr more good, if not grate' things on TV then in the 80s.

    Reality shows or only a tiny slice of what most people have access to.

    Here is a small list of thing I consider substantially better then anything in then 80s:
    Family Guy
    American Dad
    IT crowd
    Sherlock
    Burn Notice
    White Collar
    Dr. Who
    Top Gear
    Chuck
    Colbert Report
    Daily Show
    Bones(although the latest season sucks)
    And I could go on.

    I you sure you're not just being nostalgic? I know I have lot of shows from the 70s that I enjoy, but going back and watching them I can't call them 'good' by today's standards. Also, some of the shots make be feel too damn old. Like the Rockford files where he goes to Vegas and there are only about 6 buildings on the strip. The rest is empty sand lots.

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  55. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by grub · · Score: 1

    Wanna bet?

    If you want to take your chances and get head from a bisexual, hemophiliac, Haitian, IV drug using hooker I'll pay.

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  56. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

    "less fantasy, more reality."

    have you WATCHED CSI? It's 98% fantasy and 2% made up crap. 0% reality.

    True, CSI and those insane User Interfaces on their PCs are scifi... sorry but the Fingerprint Matching app is not 2 steps away from the interface on "Minority Report." The fact that they have DNA tests coming back within hours or 1-2 days is bonkers. And CSI Miami is more action-oriented than crime drama.

    But they do include more forensics and pathology in the show than back-in-the-day. Like I said, back in the day you were limited to finding a blonde hair with your bare hands, not seeing much with the body, and just hearing the doctor say something vague like "they really messed up that poor woman and then bashed in her skull."

    Now they talk about sweat, explain gun-shot-residue via animations (over-and-over-and-over), mentioning different chemicals. How such-and-such trace evidence matches up with a car or what-not.

    The medical examiner will describe the injury in detail, mentioning the specific bones, arteries, etc. Actually, the show "Bones" is a good example of them describing the injuries even if the action-side of things gets a little far-fetched.

  57. Location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, how many people wank in front of a television? Isn't a laptop or computer in a more private room part of why people don't pay for VOD porn?

  58. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they really charge 10$ per vid? Friggin ridiculous... For twice that you'll probably get a blow job.

    and AIDS.

    AIDS from a blow job?

  59. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any bets on how long it will be until the cable companies lobby to make internet porn illegal?

  60. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by grub · · Score: 1


    Second time in this thread I've had to post this link

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  61. Reality vs. Old Model? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometimes reality doesn't adjust to an old model of commerce. Like RIAA or Patent trolls or we-all-know-is-to-protect-friends regulations...maybe is time to analyze first what people want before trying to sell anything. With the ability of moving digital data FAST, CDs will disappear soon...so DVDs...and next in the list, blu-rays....you don't need to be a genius to figure out that the future will be a super fast data network and consumers getting information on demand. Choosing phone carriers with a prefix, and accessing exclusive content on companies (audio, video, information). Has no sense to have 4 superimposed expensive cell phone infrastructure in the big cities and dial-up in the countryside.

  62. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

    Sometimes less detail is better. ASCII porn was popular back in the day and I remember idiotic strip poker on the Apple IIe back in the early 80s. But I guess having an imagination is so yesterday.

    Those were stopgap measures. If you want imagination you read erotic literature--or then would you argue for less detail and prefer "See Jane Fuck" text?

  63. Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $10 for a single porn with only a 24 hour window to watch is a ridiculous price. Especially when you consider how much of it most people are actually going to watch. I have no problem paying for porn if the price is right. Either paying for the time I actually spend watching it, or getting a week over which I can watch maybe one scene a sitting. Better yet are the sites that give you "all you can eat" for a single price.

    They price the VOD porn higher than the regular VOD movies, probably because they figure their customers will be too embarrassed to complain. But it seems they've learned to just go elsewhere.

  64. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by black+soap · · Score: 1

    I dunno. The police must have been in on it. How else could literally everyone she knows, even casually, end up a murder victim with no suspicion aimed at her?

  65. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

    Do they really charge 10$ per vid? Friggin ridiculous... For twice that you'll probably get a blow job.

    and AIDS.

    Hmm..not really a problem/concern if you're on the receiving end of said blow job.

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  66. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by grub · · Score: 0

    Third time in this thread I've had to post this link :)

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  67. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

    Third time in this thread I've had to post this link [cdc.gov] :)

    Aside from freakish occurance...or if the giver and receiver both have open sores.....I have a hard time believing there are documented cases of a healthy guy getting HIV from an infected chick giving him head....where no torn skin, etc is involved.

    Not something I'd be terribly concerned about....

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  68. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by grub · · Score: 1

    According to the CDC it can get in through the urethra. *shrug*

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  69. The "Its crap because its not what I like" fallacy by voss · · Score: 1

    Is tv worse than it was in the 80s? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. There were some great shows on in the 80s
    but there was lots and lots of crap on in the 80s. Manimal, Dynasty. If you go back and actually watch
    shows from the 1980s they are unintentionally hilarious. There are many shows from the 1980s that do not age well.

    The problem with cable video on demand is that price should have dropped continously but it hasnt. Its now cheaper
    to buy dvds than to watch VOD, and the internet has gotten to the point of where its cheap(or free) and good enough.
    While dropping porn demand is one problem for cable giants its just the symptom of the fact that their services(porn and otherwise)
    arent worth what they are charging.

    Cable tv customers want their service to be a big fat pipe, and the problem is most of what the customers get on their
    cable tv packages are not what they want to watch. The future of tv is Roku where people buy their own tv box and pick their own channels.

  70. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tons and tons. It even looks like there's vague double entendres scattered about. And jokes about The Monkees? What kid is going to get that?

  71. Free porn sells audio composition software. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone, just to get their actual fix, actually mixes their favorite climax audio to an otherwise uninviting scene and magically it becomes verry rousing to earn awards.

    Many scenes are like this, like Shawshank Redemption and Van Damme In Hell especially. If I was to pick an audio dub to mask over the interview of Time Warner Cable, it would be a scene from The Last Starfighter ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLN36pgwS5o ) in **HD.

    **Legend:
    Large Ship = Time Warner Cable,
    Little Ship = Freeloading Faggot,
    Moon = Free Internet Porn.

  72. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

    The recent Battlestar Galactica wasn't everyone's cup of tea. But go back and watch the original, seriously go and watch a marathon

    I just did. BSG (the new one), Caprica and BSG (the original) plus BSG 1980 (the time travel one).

    BSG (the new one, way too soapy for my liking, 'soap in space' pretty much sums it up for me but enough of that)

    BSG (the original one) I SWEAR that the original script was written in a language other than English and they used a primitive version of Google translate to render it into English.

    I didn't have problems with phrasing, and the writing was probably "par for the course" for back then. It is just, in my opinion, a weak show by today's standards.

    For back then, it was "The bomb." I loved watching the old BSG and Gil Gerard Buck Rogers show as a kid. And while I think Buck is still semi-decent even today, people going on about how the old BSG had superior writing are still wearing rose-colored glasses. You might not like the new BSG (as it IS soap-y) but the storyline was better, the dialog was better, the action scenes better, etc.

    Though the original's StarBuck is still iconic

  73. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

    Well, it was nice knowing this user. After even the slightest murmur in a forum populated by a bunch of children-of-the-80s-and-90s nerds that 80s era cartoons were anything less than whatever equivalent of the second coming of the Messiah is to them, I suspect the next we hear about kannibal_klown will be the grisly autopsy report, complete with the description of the crime scene, including such details as "the culprits repeatedly wrote the phrase 'MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE' on the walls using the victim's blood, most likely as a warning".

    I mean, assuming the Japanophiles don't get to him first for failure to show proper worship to their favoritest cartoons ever when discussing animation of any form. Those lunatics are ruthless.

    Hehe

    Don't get me wrong, as a kid my top fav shows were Buck Rogers, Transformers, GI Joe, and Thundercats. But going back and watching that stuff now... between being older / more mature and just the dated content... it's pretty weak.

    I'm OK when a cartoon is subtly trying to drive a message home... but the cartoons of the 80s flashed big neon signs shouting "SHARE" or "DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER."

  74. Paying for traditional porn? by TheRealGrogan · · Score: 1

    I haven't bought one article of porn since about 1993. No magazines, (news stand or sex shop style) no movies or movie rentals. I wouldn't pay for porn on the Internet either. There's always more than enough smut to look at.

    Those assfucks at Comcrap and Time Waster are just starting to whine about this phenomenon now?

    1. Re:Paying for traditional porn? by mallyn · · Score: 1
      Thank you. Likewise, I have not paid for pron since the 1970's.

      Heck, I have seen pron at yard/estate sales and much of it is marked 'free'.

      Now, will Comcast and Time Warner want to make it illegal to have estate and yard sales?

      Mark

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  75. It's all about price by Vrtigo1 · · Score: 1

    the rest of the drop is because there weren't many big pay-per-view events like boxing matches last quarter, and because regular movie rentals are down, too

    Sure, but WHY are movie rentals down? Because people are smart and realize that instead of paying $4 (or whatever it costs these days) to rent a movie from Blockbuster or watch it on VOD, they can pay $8 and watch as many movies as they want on Netflix. You'd think that if Netflix can pay the applicable licensing fees to let you watch a movie or two every day for $8/mo, that the cable companies are making huge margins on their VOD rentals. If it were me, I'd sure as heck be figuring out how to lower my VOD pricing to something like $1-2 per rental to put themselves in the same price point as companies like redbox. Bam, you would probably instantly increase VOD sales by a factor of 10. And while we're talking about VOD, folks know that you the cable co isn't the only game in town when it comes to watching UFC or other big ticket PPV shows. Roku and several other streaming services have them too. It's still the same OLD mentality that just doesn't get it...

  76. anonymous icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, your icon (that one suit without a head) was pwned by Anonymous, change it !!!

  77. VOD on Cox by __aazsst3756 · · Score: 1

    We have not had cable in years, but do visit a relative that often involves finding a movie to watch on Cox's video on demand. The whole system is an experiment in pain.

    The On Demand involves going though several layers of menu for each product you might have, for example HBO movies... go back two menus, and then down two menu's to see a list of Stars movies, etc. Why not one list, with one column having the logo of the source, one column the price (free, $5), and items you can not get greyed out?

    Too bad there is not enough competition for cable companies to have to compete on usability

  78. Paying for porn doesnt mean better quality by Cito · · Score: 1
    Seen several people here think that free porn is of lesser quality or whatnot

    hell even http://video.google.com/ with safesearch turned off nets thousands of full length titles free when you go to left and sort by length.

    and of course with http://motherless.com/ No site can compete with motherless, it is the reigning king of all smut for now, every topic imaginable from full length amateurs, webcam rips from stickam teens, to as crazy and wild as you can imagine, even some you would think would be illegal, but motherless has been around a few years now.

    places like http://motherless.com/ - http://wide6.com/ - http://newsfilter.org/ - http://www.tubegalore.com/ and http://video.google.com/ with safesearch off sorted by length

    anyone that pays for pr0n is a idiot :P

    plus video.google.com beats all competition in 1 aspect. http://video.google.com/ with safesearch off has EVERY Traci Lords video which you won't find on normal sites

    So I think Google and Motherless wins hands down.

    hehe

  79. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

    The recent Battlestar Galactica wasn't everyone's cup of tea. But go back and watch the original, seriously go and watch a marathon

    I just did. BSG (the new one), Caprica and BSG (the original) plus BSG 1980 (the time travel one).

    BSG (the new one, way too soapy for my liking, 'soap in space' pretty much sums it up for me but enough of that)

    BSG (the original one) I SWEAR that the original script was written in a language other than English and they used a primitive version of Google translate to render it into English.

    I didn't have problems with phrasing, and the writing was probably "par for the course" for back then. It is just, in my opinion, a weak show by today's standards.

    For back then, it was "The bomb." I loved watching the old BSG and Gil Gerard Buck Rogers show as a kid. And while I think Buck is still semi-decent even today, people going on about how the old BSG had superior writing are still wearing rose-colored glasses. You might not like the new BSG (as it IS soap-y) but the storyline was better, the dialog was better, the action scenes better, etc.

    Though the original's StarBuck is still iconic

    I agree that the new BSG storyline is better, but you have to cut through so much crap to see the storyline without getting bored to tears by the soap and emotional drama. They actually talk and move so slowly in new BSG that you can watch it at 3 times speed and it seems normal. In Caprica its more like 4 times speed.

    As for the original Starbuck, I can't help but wonder if he was supposed to be... gay? And thats why they cast him as a woman in the new one; because they just couldn't have such a camp guy in a modern series without undermining its whole "must take ourselves very very seriously" thing that they have going on. (yeah I know Starbuck womanises, but he does it in such a camp way).

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  80. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would've paid top dollar to keep Pinky & The Brain going!

  81. Why pay 10 dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm only going to watch this video for maybe 5-10 minutes max, then I'll probably fall asleep and never watch it again in the 8 hr block they give you.

  82. Re:Crap content all round is your problem, not por by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must admit to liking the new thunder cats thus far, it’s on par with the original. But as I have recently considered children soon I’ve started paying some attention to children programming today and re watching some children programming from my youth. Most of todays shows are complete garbage, especially the younger stuff. It’s a new age of PC friendly educational bullshit that I refuse to let my kids watch. The TV shouldn’t be about teaching you why your pee looks like it does, or why that "yellow" girl up the street talks funny. It should be about a fun occasional break from reality to enjoy an oddly shaped rabbit picking on a large headed hunter or dressing in drag singing opera. It should be about random bears bouncing around after drinking magic juice just because, not about how to say dog in 6 different languages.
    Now thats not to say that all of the cartoons of yor hold up to scrutiny, some of them were likewise really stupid but I am convinced that we will never again see the golden age of animated cartoons like the late 80s early 90s saw. Some of the cartoon network stuff like the before mentioned superhero shows, generator rex, Johnny test ect do give me some hope though, but then I see shit like that new Mickey mouse show or new Garfield where they have enormous "3d" heads and walk around solving clues likes its fucking blues clues on acid crushes those hopes.

  83. Who still sits to watch? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I’m surprised anyone is still sitting in front of a TV to consume it. Smartphones have taken this need away. Personally, I visit a couple of sites but use a live cam site mainly, CamContacts, to get the real deal with real girls paying attention just to me! People are fed up of acting, and the frankly ridiculous plotlines. What I like is the fact that I can call the shots, and no-one else.”