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A Look Back At the Career of Steve Jobs
Zothecula writes with a rather extensive piece in Gizmag about Steve Jobs's various business endeavors. From the article: "Revered by many, hated by some, but respected by most, the indisputable fact remains that Steve Jobs is the most successful business leader of his generation and quite possibly of all time. The numbers are impressive in themselves but the most remarkable aspect of his success is how it was achieved. Though he remains at Apple, the end of his tenure as CEO is the end of an era and an opportunity to try and grasp just exactly what it is he did and what lessons there are for all of us 'trying to make a dent in the universe.'"
I like how when Apple introduced the iPod, they thought of it as practically a novelty. IIRC, I think they targeted 10,000 sales.
Can we hold off on all this retrospect until he's actually dead.
http://news.change.org/stories/the-600-billion-challenge-time-for-steve-jobs-to-start-donating
You can't take it with you Steve.
Bill Gates, was never fired, Microsoft has better market, more value and far more in people's lives. Now that Bill doesn't direct MS we all known what happened. I like Jobs but the phrase "the most successful business leader of his generation and quite possibly of all time." is a fallacy. Thomas Edison, Henry Ford come first easily.
The Life and Career of Steve Jobs, from Next Media Animation in Tapei. Enjoy.
Regardless of what you think of Mr. Jobs' company's products, you must admit the man had an almost unparalleled vision for the future.
In a hyper-connected world of ethics-free corporate drones apathetic about anything past this quarter's profits and stock price, Jobs stood apart by having a 5, 10, perhaps even 20 year plan for Apple that he ruthlessly pursued at the expense of anything standing in the way (be it under-performing employees or products). As a commenter last week put it, he set out to make a dent in the universe, and actually did it.
Enjoy your retirement, Mr. Jobs, you've bloody well earned it.
He did what he wanted and he had good ideas. He didn't compromise. He was kind of a dick at times but he was generally right and he knew it, and stuck to his ideals.
He had the luxury of being in a position to do that. It was only when he lost that ability that he got fired. He left. Apple sank. When he went back it was on his terms.
I think he was in the right place at the right time with some damn good ideas about how to build computers and products. But without the initial products to launch everything, courtesy of Steve Wozniak, Jobs would have been all dressed up with nowhere to go without getting even luckier.
All the articles I've read have an *obituary* feel to them. It's like he's already dead except his body hasn't read the news yet.
I will always remember Jobs as the greatest hypocrite technology has ever known. Yet somehow worshiped as an innovation loving, creativity coddling, God among artists. For some odd reason all of these people think the i in i products stands for them.
1984 commercial, iPhone.
"We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
"They are shamelessly copying us." (Re: Microsoft)
"Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"
Apple never said it streamed music, they made that quite clear at WWDC.
http://tjsdaily.blogspot.com/2011/08/steve-jobs-cancer-picture-fake.html
Simon.
Physicists get Hadrons!
He's just pining for the fjords.
Bill Gates has saved more lives than any man this century. I do not see Steve Jobs fighting malaria or donating to charity. He is not trying to have people like him. They already do as his reputation as CEO when he quit. True Steve Jobs is a better CEO in my opinion, but I would respect him more if he felt that having all that money meant he should put it to good use. I respect Warren Buffet too for donating half his money to the Gates Foundation and promising to give away the rest of his fortune to other events when he retires.
http://saveie6.com/
yeah because an endless parade of shiny gadgets that billions of people will never see is SOOO much more worthy than spending your own money to fight disease, poverty and illiteracy on a global scale. Bill isn't trying to buy his way to anything. Hey, maybe Steve gives privately, but the fact that Bill Gates gives publicly doesn't give Steve some moral high ground.
I beg to differ.
It was only when he lost that ability that he got fired. He left. Apple share price rose such that Jobs sold out all but one share for $70.5 million which would have been worth $120 million under the Sculley peak. When he went back it was on his terms.
I think he was in the right place at the right time with some damn good ideas about how to build computers and products. But without the initial products to launch everything, courtesy of Steve Wozniak, Jobs would have been all dressed up with nowhere to go without getting even luckier.
Fixed that for you.
Apple was a basket case because of him. Sculley fixed it for a time then the 20th century caught up with Apple and they only had a crap OS to sell on machines that were dearer and worse than those they allowed to be built under license.
That fact says everything one needs to know about Steve Jobs.
It's so awesome that reading it makes me feel like a koala farted a rainbow in my brain.
Here's to hot beer, cold women, and Glaswegian kisses for all.
Didn't sell out? I've felt like they sold out ever since the iPod. I spent the 90s hoping Apple would go somewhere, but I didn't want that somewhere to be based on MP3 players, locked into an amazingly shitty media player. I'm still happy for Apple, and am glad they're helping to erode MS' monopoly on the desktop, but I don't much respect their products these days. OSX is okay, but not great.
which is totally what she said
Mac OS X is built on stolen GPL and Open Source projects where Jobs is paying the developers to be silent about it and never releases their changes
back into the community. Jobs is a liar and a thief and if he is remembered at all, this is how he should be remembered.
No it is not and Apple gives back: http://www.opensource.apple.com/
Every OS X installation is a stolen Linux installation. We must not forget or forgive this treachery.
Apple must be destroyed for the sake of the Open Source world. and I will not rest until justice is done!
OS X is not based on Linux it is based on NeXTSTEP which in turn is based the Carnegie Mellon Mach kernel with elements of BSD thrown in.
to help with the worlds' biggest body count, & to help a few million (mostly children) survive.
that would help the mideastern etc... countries in seeing we're not just all about us all the time. plus, they would gladly trade some of the natural resources we crave, to see our goodwill side expand, while our life0cidal tendencies deflate.
most of us have at least one uncle omar, or are one. if we can allow for that (our faults), why not also act in kind, in spite of business & religious neogod holycostal depopulation persuasions. the next 'election' could be an easy bet, or not be held at all?
disarm. tell the truth. feed the hungry. get off the oil & weapons binges. those are the mathematically & spiritually correct options now. one would not need to be an under informed geopolitical scientist theologian to deduce those figures. reading the teepeeleaks etchings also helps. for each of the creators' innocents harmed in any way.... see you there.
More than Jonas Salk? More than Charles Drew? More than Alexander Fleming?
>Bill Gates is now trying to buy his way to people liking him
Who gives a shit. His money is saving lives. Do I like him more? No. But I love where his money is going.
And really, his money is ours, so in a way is us who are saving the lives. Pat yourself on the back. I did that when I couldn't be bothered to try to get the microsoft tax back on my laptop when I installed linux on it.
OS X is based on FreeBSD. FreeBSD ain't Linux, and it ain't GPL.
As do I yours. Some of us in sales and marketing have the same ideals as you, having come from hardware and software design backgrounds. You cunt.
but I didn't want that somewhere to be based on MP3 players, locked into an amazingly shitty media player.
Apple has moved past that. Why can't you? All the newest stuff is way past the iPod era.
Going forward with iCloud, you almost never even have to use iTunes...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Actually fuck posting AC, here I am again, cunty. Grow up.
When the network gets choppy you are going to wish you bought devices that actually aimed at storing data locally instead of relying ONLY on the "cloud".
With iCloud you get the best of both worlds - any media you want on-demand, but stored away so you can really access it any time you want.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Our society it predicated on making a mark on the universe. We are obsessed with painting the scenery with our big fat egos. Its kind of sad and pathetic.
I don't see your concern here. Humans are, among other things, capable of changing the universe profoundly, not merely making a mark on it. It's not magical. Any intelligent, self-reproducing machine could do the same.
You don't see astronomers with ego issues for the most part, because they have a fair sense of man's importance in the big picture.
They don't. Ask them where humanity will be in a billion years. The question is unanswerable.
Until we get over ourselves (as individual selves), our focus won't be contributing to a future worth living in for human beings, and with 7,000,000,000 on the planet now, perhaps its a good time to make this shift while there still is a future left for human beings.
What shift? To a humbler, unambitious useless creature which will die off in time, leaving no trace? What reason is there for you to issue this call to seven billion people, if you're intent on being so humble? Maybe you should practice what you preach? Or maybe you should eat your words.
I don't have to admire the man in any way, shape, or form. IMHO, Making obscene amounts of money doesn't make a man great. Apple certainly hasn't made my life any better, I don't own a single Apple product and most likely never will.
Rockefeller easily beats him for that (who most people would think of), but the slightly more obscure, though overwhelmingly beat-the-piss-out-of-Jobs-in-business-hands-down, fellow is Anton Fugger who was estimated to be worth about $1.3 trillion in modern dollars.
you almost never even have to use iTunes...
Almost?
Let me know when they finally vanquished it for good and I'll jump on board.
Guys, every know and then there's an anonymous linux kernel contribution... got it? :)
Ten Times the man Bill Gates is. Bill Gates is now trying to buy his way to people liking him.
You realize Steve Jobs isn't going to sleep with you, right? I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Bill Gates never fathered an illegitimate child and then refused to acknowledge it was his. People already like Bill Gates for the fact that he was essentially responsible for bringing personal computers into homes, regardless of how you may feel about his business practices.
If you want to talk about "likability", talk to people like Wozniak, John Sculley, or anyone else that worked directly with Jobs.
That's not to suggest that he ever became easy to work for. Jobs is even known to yell at company directors. Asked how she dealt with her boss, former Apple PR chief Laurence Clavere once told a colleague that before heading into a meeting with Jobs, she embraced the mindset of a bullfighter entering the ring: "I pretend I'm already dead." (Clavere says today that she doesn't recall making the comparison but notes that "working with Steve is incredibly challenging, incredibly interesting. It was also sometimes incredibly difficult.")
Often Jobs would suddenly "flip," taking an idea that he'd mocked (maybe your idea) and embracing it passionately - and as his own - without ever acknowledging that his view had changed. "He has this ability to change his mind and completely forget his old opinion about something," says a former close colleague who asked not to be named. "It's weird. He can say, 'I love white; white is the best.' And then three months later say, 'Black is the best; white is not the best.'"
I challenge you to find a single account from someone who personally knows Bill Gates who claims that the man is unlikeable.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
...You don't see astronomers with ego issues...
Well, if you include astrophysicists as well as astronomers, history is littered with big egos from from Galileo to Carl Sagan, Stephen Hawkings,... There are big egos in most fields don't think any field is immune. Once you get the bright lights shining, there are many who leap into the spotlight and linger there far beyond their area of expertise and competence because of their egos...
ROFL. "Jobs contributed nothing to NeXT, he MERELY BANKROLLED IT."
Please tell me this was snark! LOL I'm sure there are a lot of cool ideas out there that we'll never see because they were never "merely" bankrolled.
The Summary says "Of his Generation" - neither Rockefeller or Anton Fugger are really in the same generation as Mr. Jobs.
There is no standard connector that could have replaced the iPod dock connector, at least not at the time. Can you name one? (which supports video out, audio both ways, lightweight interface to USB/Firewire)
Apple has generally been a good corporate citizen in terms of supporting open standards where they have no value-added differentiation--that's about all you could hope for out of a business, frankly. Firewire is a standard, so is Thunderbolt, they have one of the most standards compliant web browsers out there and they put it on every product they make.
Is it possible you just don't understand technology, but you've adopted some sort of anti-Apple stance out of pure dogma?
Overpopulation is the big problem of these times but we dare not talk about it rationally. Saving lives isn't exactly a good thing; sorry to break from your traditionally ingrained ideals.
I think this guy deserves some consideration.
Most charities are essentially scams. Giving to them accomplishes almost nothing.
Astronomers sent a probe out into the universe with a gold disk because they feel aliens would want to know about are species. How is that not a big fat ego?
And you know what? it's that big fat ego that builds huge bridge, building covered in glass that touch the sky., It's that ego that put us on the moon, and sent rovers to mars, it's that ego that allows us to make better vaccines, and better cars.
Ar ego is awesome, inspiring and makes us the greatest species on this rock.
The problem is the few psychopaths that run large corporation, or any large body of people.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/30/despite-apples-denial-itunes-match-is-streaming/
Hahaha, you're in sales and marketing and you don't regret it. Kill yourself.
The Summary says "Of his Generation" - neither Rockefeller or Anton Fugger are really in the same generation as Mr. Jobs.
Steve Jobs is the most successful business leader of his generation and quite possibly of all time.
Because, of course, things like the Color Computer, the Commodore 64, the Apple II, the Atari ST and the Amiga never existed.
Oh wait.
I think the idea that Steve Jobs was the most successful businessman of "all time" is stretching it a bit. Sam Walton and John D. Rockefeller are just two names that come to mind that have had a bigger impact on the world, and made more money while doing it.
It's a few months old, but worth posting:
http://pragmocracy.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/just-briefly-steve-jobs/
Google music lets you stream a song and/or store it locally.
iCloud only lets you download a song to your local device and you can never stream it, even over wifi.
It's really sad to see the way people excuse the absence of music streaming, which is the most basic feature of any credible cloud music system.
It is a fact that his management style involved harassing, intimidating, being belligerent and threatening employees if they did not meet hi standards. And most famously threatening ex employees that if they spoke ill of him or Apple they would have their careers ruined. No one says bad things about Steve because they fear his wrath. Sadly the real truth of Steve will either be buried with him because Apple PR always rewrites their history to praise Steve and leave out the bad parts or it will come out when people know they won't be harassed by Steve. Yes he was a great leader but it came at a huge price. Face it Steve is not a nice guy and he was never into making the world a better place - he was only into making himself richer. I am posting as Anonymous for a reason.
Co0Ps, Jim here. Look, we've been on a hiring spree recently, and you know as well as I that unemployment rates have been at an all-time high for years. Therefore, I'm afraid we're going to have to let you go. I know, employing you probably resulted in some net good in some abstract sense, but the fact remains that employing you has basically had zero effect on unemployment overall. I men, it's not like you can just hire people and make unemployment magically disappear. I'm sure you'll therefore understand why this company just doesn't believe in employment anymore. Sorry!
Going forward with iCloud, you almost never even have to use iTunes...
you cant even turn on your phone or tablet without being strongarmed into an iTunes account. I dont want to pay 600$+ for a toy and instantly be forced into signing up for a service I will never use
Come back with assertions like that when they are published in Fortune, Forbes, or the Wall Street Journal.
Some blog called Gizmag? Why do I scent a whift of fanboy spirit?
I would love to hear steve job's ideas. so far all he has left us was work from his talented pool of engineers
Save for the Apple II, I don't really admire any of Steve Jobs's supposedly visionary "inventions" (which he himself of course didn't invent). If anything the products Jobs was most identified with, the Macs and the iGadgets, sidetracked us from the vision of the future that Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick had for 2001 (A Space Odyssey). We haven't come around to developing reliable voice controlled computers because we're so damn happy clicking or swiping the screens of computers. In 2001, we ordered computers about, which is the natural extension of the command prompts beloved by users of true operating systems like Unix and, hell, even DOS. Right now, to get something done with our computers we have to hug them like a pesky lover or dog.
Save for the Apple II, I don't really admire any of Steve Jobs's supposedly visionary "inventions" (which he himself of course didn't invent). If anything the products Jobs was most identified with, the Macs and the iGadgets, sidetracked us from the vision of the future that Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick had for 2001 (A Space Odyssey). We haven't come around to developing reliable voice controlled computers (like HAL;) because we're so damn happy clicking or swiping the screens of computers. In 2001, we ordered computers about, which is the natural extension of the command prompts beloved by users of true operating systems like Unix and, hell, even DOS. Right now, to get something done with our computers we have to hug them like a pesky lover or dog.
That's an odd way of writing "Apple have generally tried to push their proprietary standards above open standards and even when they used the same standards as everyone else they made proprietary plugs so they would not work with off the shelf components from other manufacturers without having to buy an expensive converter".
For years they pushed AppleTalk over TCP/IP, even after OS X.
Firewire over USB.
They have a custom Dport connector (proprietary connector on open standard)
iWhatever has a proprietary USB connector.
Apple's been actively rejecting the standards other people use, open or otherwise. There is no HDMI on Mac products, No VGA ports (every projector has a VGA port, mac users just couldn't connect to them without headaches), tried forcing ZipDisks when everyone was using floppy disks, 2007 Macs still did not have +/- DVD writers (they choked on -R blank DVD's) and just this year, Apple have made the hard drives in 2011 Imacs non-upgradable.
Firewire is a standard, so is Thunderbolt
Firewire and Thunderbolt are not open standards, they are proprietary and Apple charge a fee for their use. That's why everyone uses USB and the laptop I just bought does not have a IEEE 1394 connector. If you want to legally sell something with an Ipod connector (I.E. a car stereo or Ipod dock), you need to pay Apple a licensing fee. So not open, in fact, that's almost as far from open as you can get.
I think you need to start taking your medication again, you're clearly seeing things that aren't there.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
You might be right that OSX is just okay. However I don't know of a better desktop O/S on the market.
The iCloud is USA only.... So everyone else in the world is stuck with the iTunes! That and oh btw the iCloud isn't OUT YET!!
The Summary says "Of his Generation" - neither Rockefeller or Anton Fugger are really in the same generation as Mr. Jobs.
"...and quite possibly of all time."
Anton Fugger (and even more his uncle, Jakob) pretty much controlled the fate of
several kingdoms. Today's Murdochs pale in comparison.
And let's not forget Marcus Licinius Crassus, who personally owned a big
part of the Roman Empire at his peak. Seriously.
"most successful business leader of all time"? More successful than Rockefeller, who controlled a key commodity (oil) and who was worth over $600 billion in today's money? More successful than Gates whose company, no matter how unfashionable, still has an absolute hammerlock on computer desktop operating systems?
Jobs is a great business leader, but give me a break. He gets this fame because he knew how to give presentations in black turtlenecks. All these "Jobs came down from Mount Olympus to bless us with his awesome talent and leadership" stories are just ridiculous.
Penny - plain text accounting
you cant even turn on your phone or tablet without being strongarmed into an iTunes account.
Did I not JUST FREAKING TELL YOU ABOUT THE FORWARD THING?
With iOS5, devices activate without iTunes.
Sheesh!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Let me know when they finally vanquished it for good and I'll jump on board.
Ok, in practical reality if you were dead-set against it would never have to use iTunes. You can activate directly on device with iOS5, all music/video purchases would be available from the cloud, app data should backup on iCloud.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
SMB support has been built in since 10.3
I have firewire ports on both my Dell and Sony. Firewire is not "Apple's" standard, it is an IEEE standard and Apple is part of the licensing pool. Just as there is a licensing pool for USB.
What is a DPort? Do you mean DisplayPort? The mini-DisplayPort that Apple uses was accepted by VESA.
So what "standard" is there that is able to duplicate this functionality cheaply?
http://pinouts.ru/PortableDevices/ipod_pinout.shtml
Or do you expect a $20 boom box to implement a USB host controller?
The Mac Mini has an HDMI port. All other Macs have DisplayPort. DisplayPort is not an Apple proprietary connector. Dell and other manufacturrers have been selling monitors with DisplayPorts for years.
You mean "headaches" such as using a DVI to VGA connector? In fact it has just been recently that at least Mac Minis didn't come bundled with DVI to DisplayPort adapters.
Only a few Macs had optional Zip Disk support. All Macs came with 3.5" disk drives up until the iMacs.
2007 Macs still did not have +/- DVD writers (they choked on -R blank DVD's)
According to this site:
http://apple-history.com/
Every Mac introduced in 2007 had built in DVD +/- drives
Apple is part of the licensing pool for Firewire. The licensing pool and operates under FRAND. Just like most other standards (mpeg, mp3, H.264, etc,).
Thunderbolt was created by Intel.
Well both my Dell and Sony have firewire. There is also a fee to use USB.
If you want to legally use a DVD Player there is a licensing fee....
You're not exactly batting a hundred....
Ego is not a dirty word. - Skyhooks
Sara
Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
"Apple's been actively rejecting the standards other people use, open or otherwise. There is no HDMI on Mac products, No VGA ports "
You must look at different Apple products than I do... These products support HDMI either directly or with a cheap adapter:
"Products Affected
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010), iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009), iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Air (Late 2010), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010), Mac Pro (Mid 2010), iMac (27-inch, Late 2009), Mac Pro (Early 2009), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010), MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2011), MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011), MacBook Pro (13-inch, Early 2011), Mac mini (Mid 2010), MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2010)"
Practically every Mac made in the past decade supports VGA with a cheap adapter (usually from a high grade standard DVI connection).
If you're going to be an irrational hater, at least try to get some of your facts right.
A.
...bringing you cynical quips since 1998
For years they pushed AppleTalk over TCP/IP, even after OS X.
No, the primary networking for OS X always was TCP/IP. AppleTalk was there for compatibility.
Firewire is an open standard, developed by a few companies, but mainly Apple.
Apple contributed their mini-display port connector to the display port standard, and it was adopted. That's contributing to a standard, not proprietary.
iWhatever doesn't have a proprietary USB connector. It has a proprietary dock connector which carries USB signals along with other signals that USB, and no other connector of the time supported. If USB supported video signals, then they would have used it. Apple quite rightly creates their own thing when there isn't anything currently out there that provides the features they want in their products. That's one of the reasons they stay ahead of the rest of the industry.
MacBooks don't need HDMI and VGA ports when they have a DisplayPort connector. Having multiple obsolete ports is a PC laptop thing. It's one of the reasons PCs are bigger and heavier. But that's nothing to do with rejecting open standards. HDMI is supported on the Mac Mini. And of course DisplayPort itself is an open standard.
You mention ZipDisks as if bundling some third party large removable storage is a crime. Again there was no open standard with high capacity at the time. You say "when everyone else was using floppy disks", neglecting to mention the fact that Apple pioneered the use of 3.5" disks and the rest of the industry followed. And they were the first to dispense with floppies as standard, which again the rest of the industry followed. Apple tends to lead with technologies, others often follow.
If you check out definitions of "open standard", you'll discover that there is no consensus that there must be no cost for licensing. Only that such costs should be reasonable and non-discriminatory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard
I challenge you to find a single account from someone who personally knows Bill Gates who claims that the man is unlikeable.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/paul-allen-compares-working-with-bill-gates-to-being-in-hell/ :
But the memoir's most intriguing (and controversial) revelations revolve around Allen's personal and professional relationship with Gates, whom he described to Stahl as a gifted businessman with a penchant for being a total jerk.
if you don't understand tech, as evidenced by your irrational post, then you shouldn't be here.
When all of you are done arguing whether Bill Gates or Steve Jobs is the true Messiah, will you please wake up and join us adults in the real world? Both men are wildly successful because they knew how best to exploit others, were driven and hard working in doing that, and were lucky. Both men set aside morals and decorum throughout their career to behave badly. Both have a reputation for abusing staff who didn't perform. Both are happy to take credit and earn money from the work others have done. Both are happy to place restrictions on what their products can do and how useful they are to their customers in order to further their own goals.
Charity contributed by Bill Gates is a good thing - he did not have to do it, though obviously it serves his purposes. It doesn't change how he earnt his money in the first place.
Arguing who can walk on water best is purile.
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
Steve Jobs contributed nothing to Apple's early success, merely being present with money when Woz developed the technology.
So you think Steve Jobs (and not Mike Markkula) was the bankroll for Apple?
The truth is that Steve Jobs made the Apple II a consumer product. Woz designed all of the electronics (except the power supply), but he would have sold a bare board if it had been up to him. Jobs was responsible for the all-in-one plastic case, keyboard, etc. that made the Apple II a product that could be successful at retail.
I understand the tech, You were the one who called proprietary standards open, so feel free to leave any time you like.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Does anybody know how well does this correspond to the actual history?
SMB is a file sharing protocol (Server Message Block) not an transmission protocol like TCP or AppleTalk. I remember getting Macs in 2006, they had Apple talk on by default but not TCP/IP
I used to have IEEE 1394, the laptop I bought last week doesn't have them. Every device I have uses USB and none use Firewire.
Also use of USB is royalty free, unlike Firewire.
Then having it not work.
The headache comes when you dont have the converter handy, or having to carry around 30 connectors because your laptop doesn't have a port everyone else uses.
During my years of tech support, every time someone brings a Mac into a meeting I get called and asked "do you have a converter" when they find out we dont they roll their eyes and ask everyone to huddle around their laptop screen. There's your headaches, not just for you but for everyone else.
Fee to use the USB logo, the hardware is royalty free.
But you're out for a duck.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
"I'm not quite dead yet!"
- Dead body
I remember getting Macs in 2006, they had Apple talk on by default but not TCP/IP
Unless you are referring to OS 9, your memory is flawed. OS X has supported TCP/IP since day one, and has always been enabled by default.
As for OS 9, it's possible you might have had to enable TCP/IP in the Control Panel. It's been so long, I'm not sure if that was the cast at the time.
Try looking off the market then.
which is totally what she said
Actually I'm quite happy, thanks, but good failed attempt at pop-psychology there. Maybe try turning it around on yourself?
which is totally what she said
It's like hes brain is dead, but the body still walks the earth.
I send my sympathy to Steve Jobs, as with understatement he reveals he is in mortal straits.
The business started by Steve Jobs you can look at as a very pure business strategy play. They sell a computer hardware and software package that is primarily marketed to individuals.
At the onset, I mean the computer club and wire wrap era, there was this giddy excitement at having a CPU, some memory and a way of executing a programmable instruction set that could do any logic in software.
There have been a couple really big forks in the intellectual road since then: The IBM open bus and motherboard, the BSD software release license, the GNU and open source software system, TCP/IP, the Web, the CPU size and speed increase, the memory density increase, the plague of music copyright, the rise of software and business patents as an instrument of oligopoly, and the blocking of web sites by government administrative demand.
You can look at the company Apple and the products it has made and see how the company handled each of these computer developments. For each of these computer developments, Apple has stayed within a very careful framework: Every year Apple has avoided doing anything that allowed their customers to make non-Apple products the central part of their computer use.
An illustration of how Apple has been practising business strategy (as beyond simple design or programming) is the recent appearance of touch screen devices. Part of the strategy was waiting for key surface acoustic wave touch sensor patents to expire and at the same time developing and patenting software that worked with the patent expired technology. Remember Apple briefly included a USB wand touch pad with IMac laptops around 2004 ? (I guess) They added these gadgets to facilitate development of patentable display software.
So I look at Apple as having played a consistent business chess game. Their customer has been the individual and the business activity has been to recapture the customer over and over. Now those incredible stock prices, that is because Apple succeeds in charging a $40 to $200 per unit retail premium.
The real revolution is still open source software running on generic hardware using an open Web and serving peaceful human needs. It is interesting and elegant, that as closed as Apple computer hardware may be, their machinery still does many of the things one might wish of an ethically and socially ideal computer.
SMB is a file sharing protocol (Server Message Block) not an transmission protocol like TCP or AppleTalk. I remember getting Macs in 2006, they had Apple talk on by default but not TCP/IP
Your memory is flawed, TCP/IP has been the default connection protocol since Mac OS 9, which was released in 1999. It has never been the default on OS X, and is in fact not even supported by OS X any more.
I used to have IEEE 1394, the laptop I bought last week doesn't have them. Every device I have uses USB and none use Firewire.
So?
1) It's not like apple wasn't shipping USB on their machines as *well*.
2) While you may not own them there are many devices out there that not only had firewire, but needed it because USB simply didn't have enough bandwidth (see DV cameras for example). Given that one of apple's primary target audiences is video editors, that's a major market segment that they needed to address.
The headache comes when you dont have the converter handy, or having to carry around 30 connectors because your laptop doesn't have a port everyone else uses.
Except that VGA is actually incredibly rare these days. Yes many projectors use it, but actually the vast majority of monitors use DVI, and a good number use display port.
SMB is a file sharing protocol (Server Message Block) not an transmission protocol like TCP or AppleTalk.
AppleTalk isn't an transmission protocol. "AppleTalk" is a set of protocols including a file sharing protocol. "AppleTalk Transaction Protocol" and "AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol" are transmission protocols.
Fandroids hate facts.
It's only the parts of iCloud that relate to music that don't work outwith the USA. If you only use iTunes to back up your phone, then you can replace iTunes with iCloud no matter where you are.
He didn't sell out because he never had a position of integrity from which he COULD sell out; he was the business/money guy from the beginning, and the intent was always to make as much money from the customers as possible.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
LOL - all the iDrones assumed that iCloud was going to let them stream their music but they forgot that Apple products are always limited toys.
If Apple was as good at writing good software as they are at deputizing homosexuals iCloud would stream music instead of just sucking dick.
Despite Apple's semantically pedantic explanation that iTunes Match does not "stream" songs but instead "plays as it downloads," further investigation suggests that is not actually the case. Songs that are played by clicking on the title are effectively cached in full on iOS devices, then deleted automatically when navigating away from the song. These songs are not added to the library as they are when clicking the iCloud "download" icon.
Fandroids hate facts.
I challenge you to find a single account from someone who personally knows Bill Gates who claims that the man is unlikeable.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/paul-allen-compares-working-with-bill-gates-to-being-in-hell/ :
But the memoir's most intriguing (and controversial) revelations revolve around Allen's personal and professional relationship with Gates, whom he described to Stahl as a gifted businessman with a penchant for being a total jerk.
Gee, that's much stronger than any of the quotes he could find on Jobs.
Fandroids hate facts.
Most things do.
http://www.usb.org/developers/vendor/
You are either technically incompetent or a liar if you got a new Mac in 2006 and couldn't get TCP/IP to work on it. It's been standard on every new Mac sold for the last 12 years.
TCP/IP was on by default in System 7.5 and later.
I worked in a mixed network of 7.1.x, 7.5.x and later OS 8 machines, it was the 7.1.x machines that required TCP/IP be toggled off.
TCP/IP going off on those was the first warning sign the PRAM battery was failing.
Right, that's why everyone and their grandmother knows how to navigate around AmigaOS. It must have been Atari that made the deal with IBM to write an OS for their machines and machines like them. Remember when Commodore '95 came out and had that huge advertising blitz? I remember thinking how weird it was to see a commercial on mainstream TV for software, an operating system no less. Apple was good about getting placed into schools, at least. Oregon Trail and Number Munchers really catapulted Apple machines into people's living rooms. It's why Apple has the market share they have today.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
I remember getting Macs in 2006, they had Apple talk on by default but not TCP/IP
Unless you are referring to OS 9, your memory is flawed. OS X has supported TCP/IP since day one, and has always been enabled by default.
I suspect that numpty is confusing AppleTalk with AppleShare Filing Protocol. AFP is still fully supported, but these days it runs over TCP/IP.
AppleTalk, on the other hand, has had a fork sticking out of its back for something like 15 years now. AFP over TCP isn't a new development; it was first supported in MacOS 8 or 9 or so, and Apple was encouraging everyone to switch to TCP/IP back then. Apple's support for AppleTalk in OS X always felt like "this is legacy, it's going away, don't depend on it" to me. And what do you know, it went away a few years back and outside of graybeard Mac users and businesses, it wasn't missed.