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Man Becomes Artist When He Sleeps

During the day 37-year-old Lee Hadwin is a nurse with no particular love or talent for art, but when he sleeps it's a different story. Lee has been sleep-drawing since he was 4 and is now quite good. Some of his pieces have sold for six figures. Despite numerous tests, doctors can't explain how he's able to draw and paint while he's not conscious, or even what stage of sleep he's in while he works. From the article: "Still, the North Wales native doesn't want to make art his career. He never studied art, and is lousy at drawing when awake. 'Art has never interested me at all,' says Hadwin, as quoted by the BBC. But just in case, he now prepares by leaving a sketchpad, brushes, and other art supplies in his bedroom."

130 comments

  1. Call Dr. House... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    quickly!

  2. Conent blocking and WTV by del_diablo · · Score: 1

    The video is blocked.
    I am in Norway.
    Somebody post a mirror please.

    1. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blocked for me in Canada, too.

    2. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am in North Wales and it's blocked for me too :(

    3. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by ideivid · · Score: 0

      Try using a proxy.

    4. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe this one works.

      http://www.itn.co.uk/home/28008/Sleep+artist+creates+masterpieces

    5. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 2, Informative

      The video is blocked.
      I am in Norway.
      Somebody post a mirror please.

      I don't know if it's the exact same video (I'm in Norway as well), but this is apparently the same guy. If it's legit it's pretty amazing.

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    6. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

      I'm in the US and it says the movie was removed for content violations.

    7. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Soldats · · Score: 1

      More like SNOREway!

      Sorry I couldn't resist. I have been this way ever since I saw that animation years ago.

      Please don't hurt me........

    8. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't fucking have to.

    9. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      Maybe He doesn't want to be awakened?

    10. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by cjb658 · · Score: 1

      Working for me, and I'm at work!

    11. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by Slash.research_Kat · · Score: 1

      The video is of an interview with BBC. They show a clip from the youtube video, but in the interview he explains more about his 'condition', and how he copes with it. He mentions that he donates money earned from his drawings for missing person charity.

      Some of the drawings shown are amazing, but I'd imagine the ones they didn't show are equivalent to the doodles most people make in boring classes/meetings.

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    12. Re:Conent blocking and WTV by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      This video shows around fifteen of his drawings, and is IMO much more interesting than the interview itself. There was no depth to it--it was basically him saying, "Yeah, this happens. I let people study me and they're not sure what's going on." The art he's putting out varies, but as you say the high-quality stuff is pretty amazing.

  3. That is no idle, morons. by unity100 · · Score: 0

    that is some serious shit that involves conscious, subconscious and alternative personalities.

    1. Re:That is no idle, morons. by causality · · Score: 1

      that is some serious shit that involves conscious, subconscious and alternative personalities.

      I was thinking something like that myself. This is far more mysterious than the way it is being presented. We don't even know what "everyday" consciousness is let alone how to explain something like this.

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    2. Re:That is no idle, morons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This. This isn't Idle, even if it doesn't really have much in terms of very specific facts from it. (as far as we know since it seems have the damn planet is blocked from viewing the video. And who the hell is 5min when we are at it? Getting a bit sick of region locking bullshit)

      This is more newsowrthy than, say, Steve Jobs stepping down.
      That thing happens all the damn time, yeah we get it, this one was reallllly influential, blah blah blah and so on. Every damn CEO that steps down was influential these days.
      I prefer to think of news on here as something good. Steve stepping down is far from good. Steve essentially made Apple what it is simply from being a good speaker. He spoke to the people. He convinced idiots around the world that it was fine to buy overpriced and pretty weak hardware + software, he taught the world to "think differently." Now the only Steve they have is Wozniak.
      Yet Steve stepping down got a whole "real" article all to itself.
      And this was thrown in to the crapbasket, pretty much.

    3. Re:That is no idle, morons. by morari · · Score: 1

      Sounds like it involves Hastur to me...

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    4. Re:That is no idle, morons. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      that is some serious shit that involves conscious, subconscious and alternative personalities.

      Either that or he's faking it...

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    5. Re:That is no idle, morons. by SomePgmr · · Score: 1

      It looks as though he's done this while being monitored. Truly bizarre.

    6. Re:That is no idle, morons. by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      This is more newsowrthy than, say, Steve Jobs stepping down.
      Yet Steve stepping down got a whole "real" article all to itself.

      And here you are, spending the majority of your post talking about that other thing in this thing's article.

    7. Re:That is no idle, morons. by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      No "scientific investigator" has ever been fooled by a faker, right?

      Uri Geller springs to mind.

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  4. reminds me of this nice story... by g00mbasv · · Score: 2

    ..And a fantastic painter named Ardois-Bonnot hangs a blasphemous Dream Landscape in the Paris spring salon of 1926. And so numerous are the recorded troubles in insane asylums that only a miracle can have stopped the medical fraternity from noting strange parallelisms and drawing mystified conclusions. A weird bunch of cuttings, all told; and I can at this date scarcely envisage the callous rationalism with which I set them aside...

    1. Re:reminds me of this nice story... by black+soap · · Score: 1

      It is the abnormal geometry that would probably be the worst part.

  5. sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by magarity · · Score: 2

    WTF - I'd have a great time pursuing my fun time hobbies all day if I could "work" while asleep at night and pull down six figures.

    1. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much like the lottery winners "i'm not going to let it change me, i will still go to work [at the local grocery store] next week after a weekend by the seaside.".

      Apparently the most fortunate don't realize how lucky they are.

    2. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      When I'm asleep, I'm an astronaut-brain-surgeon-cowboy.

    3. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I'm asleep I post anonymously on slashdot.

    4. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Ziktar · · Score: 1

      Nice to meet you, Buckaroo

    5. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by trum4n · · Score: 1

      You better call a doctor. That looks pretty serious.

    6. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      suppose he might lose the magic if he doesn't go to work?

      anyhow, part of the value of that art I reckon comes from the fact that he can't reproduce it on purpose.

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    7. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'd sell a few paintings as my primary income, do some side work as I felt like it, and would spend quality time with my family. As a bonus, sleeping in counts as working longer hours!

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    8. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I'm asleep, I'm a line worker in a Chinese electronics factory.

    9. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worst. Movie. EVER.

    10. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      When I'm asleep, I'm a mattress tester.

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    11. Re:sales for 6 figures and not interested?? by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Indeed. He said that drinking helps. So working causes him to drink...

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  6. Skeptical by Dyinobal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm pretty skeptical, it says he's been doing this since he was four and has some funny stories of such but do we have any actual proof that this is true? Are we sure he's not an artist with a gimmick to get his stuff sold? He wouldn't be the first.

    1. Re:Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My thoughts as well. Seems fishy.

    2. Re:Skeptical by Alyred · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing here. Would be pretty easy to "fake" that he's a terrible artist when awake, then pretend to be asleep and draw occasionally.

      Perhaps we're just too cynical.

    3. Re:Skeptical by Jmc23 · · Score: 1

      and his examples of poor artwork while awake aren't very credible. He has a smooth stroke, good even pressure, well spacedscribbles, andgood circular action. His sleep drawings aren't very high qualy so I'd probably go with faking it because nobody in their right mind would pay 6 figures for those without the claim that they were done while asleep.

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    4. Re:Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many people sleepwalk. Some perform fairly complex actions in their sleep.

      A girlfriend of a friend of mine once told us how she'd get up, walk to her living room and undress (yeah, we made remarks). I've heard claims of people driving cars. Masturbation is a pretty common one.

      So why not?

    5. Re:Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you jerked off all night with your alternate hand, that hand would still be strong and able to make smooth strokes during the day.

    6. Re:Skeptical by Seor+Jojoba · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there is a quote in the article "Doctors at the Edinburgh Sleep Center can't even determine what stage of sleep Hadwin is in when his creative impulses kick in." Is this just a tricky way of saying "Doctors at the Edinburgh Sleep Center didn't actually see anything matching the claim?" The dude could be faking.

    7. Re:Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I'm as skeptical as the next of exceptional claims like this man's, (Some of it is decent, but folks paying thousands for them as "masterpieces?" Yeah. Novelty value only, IMHO) I would be surprised if they didn't have a sleep study with an EEG on this guy which would have shown if he was awake or not. He may have a parasomnia-type disorder which may be hard to classify in a specific stage of sleep, but I'd hope they'd at the VERY least have shown he's not fully awake.

      Let me rephrase. Though I am not the kind of person who WOULD purchase such novelty art, *If* I were to buy one of these drawings at the prices leveled, I'd for damn sure want to have a letter from a licensed physician trained and practicing in sleep medicine attesting that the man was NOT identifyably awake by an EEG monitor at the very least

    8. Re:Skeptical by Bob-taro · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty skeptical, it says he's been doing this since he was four and has some funny stories of such but do we have any actual proof that this is true? Are we sure he's not an artist with a gimmick to get his stuff sold? He wouldn't be the first.

      It certainly could be fake, but I don't think the claim is so outrageous. Sleepwalking is a pretty well studied phenomenon. Being able to do something while sleepwalking that you can't do while awake is not something I've heard of before, I'll admit. But sleepwalkers don't always "see" what's really there, do they? Maybe when you're drawing, that's an advantage. Maybe he's just "tracing" something his brain already sees on the canvas.

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    9. Re:Skeptical by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > 'm pretty skeptical, it says he's been doing this since he was four and has some funny stories of such but do we have any actual proof that this is true?

      Um, you DO know about Delta, Theta, Alpha, and Beta brain waves right?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_waves#Comparison_table
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance#Brainwaves_and_brain_rhythms
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_eye_movement_sleep

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    10. Re:Skeptical by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty skeptical, it says he's been doing this since he was four and has some funny stories of such but do we have any actual proof that this is true? Are we sure he's not an artist with a gimmick to get his stuff sold? He wouldn't be the first.

      If you watch the video you'll notice everything about him screams hipster art snob douche roll.
      While he's awake.

      Yup - dude is faking.

    11. Re:Skeptical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suffer severe parasomnia (Doctors think it's probably a form of epilepsy) which involves me pretty much doing anything I would normally do whilst I was awake but asleep such as eating, answering phone calls and having contextual discussions, even working on my computer and once coding. I almost always have no memory of what was going on but I usually knew if I had been doing something because I was often still very tired despite sleeping for a long time, what's even more irritating is sometimes I do occasionally remember things but I have absolutely no idea where, when or how I know it. It's extremely frustrating because sometimes I schedule appointments that I don't remember so I have to check my phone call log every time I wake up and I check my computer logs as well to do if I had done anything whilst I was asleep. I'm always scared I'll go driving or sign a contract or something whilst I'm asleep so I got a medical dogtag made which I wear before I go to bed which states I'm asleep if worn, I always find I'm still wearing it when I wake up (as opposed to me taking it off which obviously I'm capable of doing) so I figure that's all I can do other then tying myself to a bed with a time delay or something. The worse thing about the whole mess is I'm always tired no matter how long I sleep.

    12. Re:Skeptical by mmortal03 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty skeptical, as well, but I will say that in the past I've occasionally dreamed some of the most creative story lines one could come up with; very eventful, in-depth stuff that there's no way I'd have been able to come up with while awake. Similar to this guy's claims that he can't do it while he's awake, in my case I don't read fiction that often, I'm not a very artistically expressive person, and I've never been very good at anything like creative writing or any other sort of narrative writing. So I've often asked myself how have I then had dreams such to the contrary of all of this?

      If this guy isn't faking it, then my own experience with occasional dreams involving these creative outbursts (of which I'll then quickly forget when I awaken if I don't write them down) would lead me to think that he's got something similar going on, but combined with not having the immobility that most of us have when in those stages of sleep, which allows him to express these impulses.

  7. Blocked? Do this. by lm2s · · Score: 1

    For those who can't view the video, use www.vivalaproxy.com, fast and easy.

  8. Blocked in Brazil too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blocked here in Brazil too. May those (ir)responsible go bankrupt.

  9. Fight club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    didn't he just break the first rule ?

  10. Hmmm... by bob5972 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds sketchy...

    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds sketchy...

      I see what you did there...

    2. Re:Hmmm... by trum4n · · Score: 1

      art pun. ouch.

    3. Re:Hmmm... by geekoid · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Hmmm... by Cyberia · · Score: 2

      Hey now... let's not draw any hasty conclusions yet.

    5. Re:Hmmm... by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      Hey now... let's not draw any hasty conclusions yet.

      Yeah. You don't want to paint this guy with a broad brush. Have some perspective.

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  11. Life imitates comedy. by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/14755/the-dick-van-dyke-show-i-am-my-brothers-keeper springs to mind, not to mention a fair number of other sitcoms and cartoons.

    (Hulu, sorry for those outside the US).

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  12. Reminds Me... by localman · · Score: 2

    Reminds me of the excellent art book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" - which talks about how we have to turn off some of the analytical features of our mind to become better artists. For example, when you look at a wheel and try to draw it, you don't want to think "wheel" and start drawing what your mind knows of a wheel: depending on the angle it may be oval instead of circle, shadows and other objects may obscure the circular shape. Instead you want to draw what your eyes see "raw", whether those shapes and shades make sense or not.

    The book goes a lot further down this path, but it is fascinating to think that our brains can have power that is hindered by other parts of the brain. This guy seems to support that. I imagine there's significant talents and skills we have within us that simply don't know how to access.

    1. Re:Reminds Me... by nine-times · · Score: 2

      Yes, there's a lot of evidence that there are parts of your brain that won't really work while another part of your brain is working. Also, I've recently read a theory behind sleep-walking and sleep-talking that basically claims that parts of your brain can sleep independent of one another, so when there are enough parts of your brain to walk and talk that are "awake" while your higher consciousness sleeps, you might sleepwalk.

      This doesn't seem impossible to me.

    2. Re:Reminds Me... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I've experienced something like this. I thought I was awake and was indeed walking around, but my sense of history (what had been going on recently) and location (where I was) where set by a dream I was having. Due to the circumstances of a dream I was having, I thought I was in a different room and, when I tried to exit, couldn't find the door. I began to panic (since the door "should have been" right where I was) and called out for help. Once the light was turned on, I woke up entirely and realized what had happened. (I had walked into my closet instead of to my door since the room I was dreaming I was in had a different layout.)

      Just last night, my son did a similar thing. He woke up, went to the bathroom and then walked over to the couch and sat down. His eyes were open and he seemed awake. He was even able to talk to us to some degree but couldn't answer why he went to the couch. I tried to guide him back to his bed only for him to head to the bathroom and then back to the couch. Finally, I picked him up and carried him to his bed where he fell asleep. The next morning, he had no recollection of walking around.

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    3. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turns out that's false.

      Neurology has moved past quaint 19th century thinking.

    4. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe, this is interesting to me as I've had similar experiences. My 7 year old son is diabetic and so I have to check his blood sugar levels at night, and if he's low I have to wake him enough to get him to eat something. It's interesting because he wakes up enough to eat, but not enough to really function. His eyes will sometimes be open, and he eats the cracker or cookie or whatever I give him, we can have some level of conversation, but he has no recollection of any of it the next morning.

      When we talk I can ask him some basic questions like his name, which he answers. I've also tried asking him basic math questions - stuff that is so trivial that it comes naturally, like "what's 1+1?" he either answers verbally or by a show of fingers if his mouth is full. Anything that requires just a little bit more thought, though, he won't answer. If I ask, "what's 16+17?" - something he can do in his mind when he's awake, but with a little thinking - he simply doesn't answer. He doesn't get it wrong or show any sign of trying to figure it out, he just doesn't respond at all. Similarly, if I ask him questions about what we did yesterday, or the names of his cousins, he doesn't respond at all. If I ask him to tell me the names of his siblings, then he can often do that. It's weird because it's like some part of his brain is awake enough to talk to me and answer questions, but only as long as the answers don't require him to dig much through his memory or use some other parts of his brain that are still asleep.

    5. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a great book. My college professor made us read that book in fine arts. The big thing it pushes and people dont get is to not draw what you think it should look like, but what it really looks like. Sounds simple, but its very hard to turn off your brain telling you "no no it cant look like that because its round!"

    6. Re:Reminds Me... by Genrou · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the excellent art book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" - which talks about how we have to turn off some of the analytical features of our mind to become better artists.

      I have this book. When I was trying to learn to draw, I used to read it every day. The author describes a kind of a "zen state of mind", where you lose your ability to think rationally and even talk. I spent a lot of time trying to achieve this state of mind. Never could. There are parts of this book that makes sense: the way you described, for example, that what we know about the world affects how we interpret what we see. But that magical state where you turn into a fantastic drawer, like the pictures shown in the book, I don't think make a lot of sense. In fact, today we know that you cannot dissociate left and right sides of the brain when interpreting or imagining images.

      The book, however, helped me with the section that was called, I think, "letting the left side help", where the author describes how to measure and stablish proportions. Turns out, however, that this is not related to left or right side of the brain: any book on drawing I read later had the exact same techniques. I learned how to draw using them, and turns out that what you need is actually a lot of practice and knowledge. She presents a nice technique for copying pictures and nothing else. In the time I got more knowledge about sciences, all that book said sounded incredibly pseudo-scientific to me.

    7. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My SO has told me that I will occasionally speak in my sleep... it's only semi-coherent according to her...

      I've sleep walked once in my life and let me tell you, it was FRIGHTENING to wake up... I am not the type to be groggy when waking up, stumbling to the bathroom etc, typically when I wake up it's: BAM! I'm awake... I was on a business trip... apparently in the middle of the night I got up, left my room, and ended up walking to the other side of the hotel. When I "woke up" I found myself standing in a stairwell in my underwear... I knew I was at the hotel, but didn't know where in the hotel I was, I had no recollection of leaving the room or walking there (which required opening 2-3 doors, taking multiple turns and going down a few steps)... obviously no key card to get back in the room which was really freaking embarrassing to walk into the lobby at 5AM with people waiting for cabs... thank god I wear boxers...

      It has never happened to me again, and to this day when traveling to that hotel I get nervous at night and push a chair in front of the door just in case...

    8. Re:Reminds Me... by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 1

      Well, it's a well documented phenomenon in birds and aquatic mammals. They're actually able to let half their brain sleep at a time, while the other half remains alert to look for predators and handle other important functions.

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    9. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have that book, and it's an instant-wow.

      A simple way to describe "how to draw" is, instead of looking at an image logically (squares, circles, lines) you look at the negative space (distances between the squares, circles and lines) you do really instantly go from drawing like a 2 year old to something that is reasonably good in a very short span of time.

      So in regards to the Sleepwalking artist (which there are articles going back to 2008 of,) in all likliness he's completely or mostly operating on the other side of the brain, and "drawing" something he's "seeing" while asleep.

      From a personal POV, all the extreneky graphic nightmares and dreams I get are usually a result of consumption of food shortly before going to bed, and I've woken up exhausted, and felt like I've been somewhere else for hours, even if I've been asleep for 30 minutes. But I've never actually sleepwalked anything.

      The missing question here is how come he can find art tools in his sleep? Are his eyes actually open? What about other sleep walkers?

    10. Re:Reminds Me... by _0xd0ad · · Score: 1

      The missing question here is how come he can find art tools in his sleep? Are his eyes actually open? What about other sleep walkers?

      Yes.

    11. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of Tyler Durden.

    12. Re:Reminds Me... by Nyder · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the excellent art book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" - which talks about how we have to turn off some of the analytical features of our mind to become better artists. For example, when you look at a wheel and try to draw it, you don't want to think "wheel" and start drawing what your mind knows of a wheel: depending on the angle it may be oval instead of circle, shadows and other objects may obscure the circular shape. Instead you want to draw what your eyes see "raw", whether those shapes and shades make sense or not.

      The book goes a lot further down this path, but it is fascinating to think that our brains can have power that is hindered by other parts of the brain. This guy seems to support that. I imagine there's significant talents and skills we have within us that simply don't know how to access.

      I learned to drive stick in my dreams. I kid you not. Let's set the wayback machine to when I was 16 (mid 80's, save the new wave), taking drivers ed, but i had just moved out of my parents place (ya, at 16, they were crazy, no place for a kid to grow up at), anyways, that left me with only sticks to practice on. Well, 'cept my aunt (who i was staying at) didn't want me driver her big ass boat, and my sister would stress the fuck out on me trying to drive her vw.

      So, pop in a dream,where i am driving stick, no problem. no stress, able to figure out how to get the ease the gas off while easing the clutch in, and shifting the stick into another gear. The next day, managed to good enough to impress the driving instructor.

      You might say i knew how to do it before my dream, which is sort of true, but it took the dream for me to get the flow going and understanding it.

      Also, as a side note, I have a "Dream World" that i go to when i dream. It seems like all my dreams are connected because I remember then as memories of stuff that happened, when i'm dreaming. I'm always pretty much in Seattle in my dreams, but it's a bit different then the seattle i live in, but it's always the same in dreams. There isn't a boeing, the water is warmer and has risen, and for whatever reason, I know how to get out of jail if i ever get put in it. Which seems to something that happens in my dreams on occasion.

      I could go on and on, but i won't. I could talk about how i saw the convention center in my dreams years before it was built, but I won't. Sort of hard to prove. And then again, memories, are well, memories, and maybe it didn't happen like that.

      But it doesn't surprise me that dude can do good paintings when he's asleep, what i wonder is what cycle he does it in, since he's body isn't being locked up like when you dream.

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    13. Re:Reminds Me... by localman · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to as "false", but my guess is you're getting caught up on the right brain/left brain language. How left brain of you!

      Terms like "right brain" and "left brain" are shorthand for referring to the abstract and concrete portions of the mind. Think of it like how we say that quarks have color and spin, when there's no such thing. The important bit here is that there are different parts of the mind (which may map to locations in the brain to some degree, or maybe not) but you can certainly come across situations where parts of the mind are dominant, and teasing these things apart can give valuable insight into how we think and operate.

      The book, despite being neurologically loose, has a lot of insight into the balance between the analytical and artistic capacities of the mind.

    14. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She presents a nice technique for copying pictures and nothing else.

      Nothing else?
      Being able to copy what you see *is* the most important thing to learn if you want to draw.

      I used to absolutely suck at drawing before I happened to read that book (don't remember if it was that exact book or a similar one). In school all the art teaching we got was like "Here's the topic, materials and the rough technique you should use, now make art". Well, my drawings always looked like something a 7 year old might come up with. The only times the result was actually passable when there was an actual reference I could use as a basis.

      A hundred years ago art *was* taught by copying - you studied existing drawings and paintings and tried to copy them. You studied flowers, animals, human form - and copied. After drawing the same thing enough times in different ways your brain learned to draw them without the reference. Some learn this faster, some slower.

      After reading the book I can finally draw without having to cringe at the result. I still can't draw without reference pictures but that's mostly because I'm very bad at thinking visually. And yes, I sometimes do encounter the 'zen' state where it takes a real effort to speak again.

      Besides, even if you can 'only copy', it doesn't mean the result can only look like the original picture. All my pictures are usually done by using a dozen or so references - draw that part by using that reference picture, use another reference to draw the woman in different clothes, use that reference to adjust the pose, that reference to get the faces right and so on.

    15. Re:Reminds Me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sleepful in seattle?

      Also, I kind of had this happen myself a few times (reality training/simulation in a dream). For example, I knew the Nintendo 3DS was a disappointment before I actually tried it, because I already playtested it in my sleep. I think I also might have tried a few drawing techinques in my dreams, though I'm still terrible at it.

  13. Stinks. by BadPirate · · Score: 1

    Smells like a hoax to generate interest in otherwise unremarkable artwork to me.

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  14. Selling for 6 figures but doesn't want career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sometime is not right in Denmark.

    This guy's work is selling for 6 figure pounds but he 'doesn't want to make art a career'. Hype machine in maximum overdrive.

    1. Re:Selling for 6 figures but doesn't want career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps he's afraid of the taxes http://dresdencodak.com/2006/10/07/summer-dream-job/

  15. Can't believe it's not been said, but... by Cerium · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like he finally got his dream job!

    Hahahahaha! Ahh... sorry.

    1. Re:Can't believe it's not been said, but... by schlachter · · Score: 1

      His dream job and he doesn't even enjoy it. Isn't that how if often goes?

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    2. Re:Can't believe it's not been said, but... by FranktehReaver · · Score: 1

      Looks like he finally got his dream job! Que CSI Miami intro song....

    3. Re:Can't believe it's not been said, but... by Trevorm7 · · Score: 1
      *Puts on sunglasses*

      Looks like he finally got his dream job

      YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHH

      Fixed.

    4. Re:Can't believe it's not been said, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like he finally got his dream job!

      Hahahahaha! Ahh... sorry.

      rofl xD

  16. I can see where this is coming from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have these intensely detailed, vivid and beautiful dreams of absolutely PERFECTLY reproduced memories of my hometown, and I have also messed around with them (in one dream there was this extensive, complex railway system built around the river bay). The problem is I can't draw for shit, and this dream visual sense just doesn't translate into real visualization skills. :/

    Video is blocked, btw.

    1. Re:I can see where this is coming from by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I too have been many times amazed how detailed and realistic dream stories the brain can generate from scratch. One helluva piece of hardware.

  17. If they don't know what stage of sleep he's in. by brainproxy · · Score: 1

    How do they know he's asleep?

  18. Fairies and Gnomes. by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    Them's what done it.

  19. Seaweed and dead fish, and floating corpses by buback · · Score: 1

    I think this is a sign that Cthulhu is coming. maybe the Mayans were right about 2012.

    1. Re:Seaweed and dead fish, and floating corpses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot the jellyfish attacking our nuclear power plants.....

      Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

  20. Working while sleeping by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    He is not the only guy I know who sleeps at work....

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  21. BBC link by qvatch · · Score: 1

    Have a look at the BBC article (with video, including a selection of artwork) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14706864

  22. future by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

    Let's just hope he doesn't try to paint the future!

    -l

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  23. This is very possible in complex NREM parasomnias by gust0208 · · Score: 1

    I am a sleep physician and highly complex behaviors are commonly seen in NREM parasomnias (i.e. sleep walking). The idea in the article about "doctors are mystified" and "don't know what sleep stage this is occuring" seems highly suspect. With common place polysomnogram testing, sleep staging can be easily captured. I do believe that he may be having complex NREM parasomnias, but highly doubt that this is any sort of medical mystery, and does lend some credence that this is a "gimmick" for this artist.

  24. No way it *isn't* fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doctors at the Edinburgh Sleep Center can't even determine what stage of sleep Hadwin is in when his creative impulses kick in.

    You could, you know, use your machines.

  25. Dream Job... anyone? anyone? by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 2

    Tell me I'm not the first to figure out the obvious headline "Dream Job" anywhere this story is posted or shared?

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  26. Cerium by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 1

    Tell me I'm not the first to figure out the obvious headline "Dream Job" anywhere this story is posted or shared?

    My mistake, Cerium... I bow to you sir! http://idle.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2410312&cid=37288504

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  27. Living Proof by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

    That Art Is Dead.

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    1. Re:Living Proof by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 1

      Rex mortuus est, vivat rex.

      Art loses much in its transition into a digital mass media, but it has never been more popular. To take Keats loosely then the Internet itself may be considered an enormous collective work of art.

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  28. maybe he's on nonbenzodiazepines by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 1

    At least he's productive -- http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/14344

    I remember a movie about an alien spaceship that is forced to land in a small town and gets the populous to repair it in their sleep. They were all very productive, much more than in their day jobs. One person couldn't be used because he had a metal plate in his head. Anyone remember the name of it?

    1. Re:maybe he's on nonbenzodiazepines by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      There was a Stargate episode where the populace of a town is compelled to construct a spaceship while 'asleep'.

    2. Re:maybe he's on nonbenzodiazepines by _0xd0ad · · Score: 1

      Tommyknockers.

      Some of the details in your summary were incorrect, by the way.

    3. Re:maybe he's on nonbenzodiazepines by FranktehReaver · · Score: 1

      I once ate a giant marshmallow in my sleep to find when I awoke my pillow was gone. Turns out it fell behind my bed.

    4. Re:maybe he's on nonbenzodiazepines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually that was Eureka. Get you syfy shows correct! GEEZ! On Slashdot of all places.

  29. Explanation by Jodka · · Score: 1

    Despite numerous tests, doctors can't explain how he's able to draw and paint while he's not conscious, or even what stage of sleep he's in while he works.

    Perhaps he is in fact drawing while awake and we are all a dream he experiences when he is asleep.

    (Queue eerie music and scary flying door.)

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    1. Re:Explanation by Jodka · · Score: 1

      "Cue" not "Queue".

      (Oh I am so embarrassed.)

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  30. Is his sleep restful then? by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    Is he enjoying the benefits of sleep as well, although he remains productive during the sleep period? Presumably he doesn't spend the entire time drawing, but how restful is his sleep exactly, and how long does he feel he needs to sleep to remain productive during the day?

  31. As a blackout drunk, I can relate by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Substitute "blackout" for "sleeping" and "fighting" for "painting" and he and I are totally in the same shoes.

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  32. Ah, so I must have been sleep-coding. by on_the_gls · · Score: 1

    Hmm...it all makes sense now. When I look at some code that I know I had to have written and say, 'What was I thinking?'. Now I know it must have been sleep-coding and my alter ego must have taken the reigns.

  33. So what's with that watermelon? by zooblethorpe · · Score: 1

    And don't just say you'll tell me later -- you always say that, and then never do.

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    "A four-foot prune."
  34. My sleep talent by sheehaje · · Score: 1

    The only thing I do in my sleep usually wakes up my wife and leaves the sheets a mess.

    1. Re:My sleep talent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The terms for that is "incontinence".

  35. wtf by TeRanEX · · Score: 0

    "Oops! Video Blocked. This video can not be viewed due to your location. For other videos please visit [this-crap-site.com]" WTF??

    1. Re:wtf by kthreadd · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the Wonderful World of Intellectual Property (tm).

  36. Re:Fr1st stop by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    This guy can post marvelous Slashdot comments while sleeping, but when he's awake, it becomes like that.

  37. EEG: Not easily feasible by DrYak · · Score: 1

    I would be surprised if they didn't have a sleep study with an EEG on this guy which would have shown if he was awake or not.
    I'd for damn sure want to have a letter from a licensed physician trained and practicing in sleep medicine attesting that the man was NOT identifyably awake by an EEG monitor at the very least

    Electro Encephalogram (EEG) Might not be that easy to perform:
    EEG measures electrical currents in the brain (Duh, hence the name).

    If the guy is painting while sleeping:
    - He would be moving. A lot. Really a lot. That means that the muscle motion is going to make a lot of parasites on the signal. Also because the guy would be moving around, the doctors might have a few problems keeping the measuring electrodes in place. Basically, you'd have the same difficulties as when trying to EEG someone with sleep walking. (Or atypical forms of epilepsy associated with automatic behaviours instead of convulsion).

    - The guy *is painting* while sleeping. That is a rather complex action. That means that, even if he's sleeping - i.e.: most of the other brain function are shut down - there's quite some activity going on inside the brain (lots of region have to be kept active even during sleep) and thus, the EEG signal would probably rather complicated to interpret.

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    1. Re:EEG: Not easily feasible by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Who spends six figures on artwork with no proof? "I painted this while I was asleep!" yeah right sure buddy. I'd want videos and doctors testimony and test results before trusting this guy and shelling out 100gs for sleep artwork. Where is the evidence? And don't tell me he can't afford it because he's making money, he could afford a nice website and videos and plenty of medical tests with $100,000. Even if he doesn't care if i was him I'd still want to know wtf was going on, one morning he might wake up in a pool of blood and have no clue what happened. Anyone that has been so drunk that they've lost time will tell you it's not fun to have people tell you that you did all these crazy things and not remember any of it.

      like the saying goes if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

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  38. Coincidence? by bughunter · · Score: 1

    That's funny. I become a Fartiste when I sleeps.

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  39. Video without restrictions (but maybe should have) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Video available for all...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXdzgNBqf5c
    Warning, he apparently sleeps naked...

  40. I saw this.... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    I saw this episode of Heroes, where the psychic painter transfers his dream state painting skills to the other guy.......hey ...wait a minute....!

  41. Isaac Mendez by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

    This sounds familiar. Let's just hope he doesn't fall asleep and paint the world ending.

  42. Nobody can comment anything meaningful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is interesting how little idea we have - virtually noone on Slashdot has any meaningful comment.

  43. No interest in art? by BlackLungPop · · Score: 1

    I would be less skeptical if he was also an artist while awake, or at least HAD BEEN at some time in his life. If he has never had any interest in art and doesn't study it, how did he develop the techniques of perspective and shading? Innate skill? Sounds like bullshit.

  44. Brain by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    I suppose people can be great artists if they find the correct "brain connection" for it. I feel that I can visualize marvelous drawings inside my head but translating it to a piece of paper is another story.

  45. Scientists Baffled! by Ironwolf · · Score: 1

    "Despite numerous tests, doctors can't explain ... even what stage of sleep he's in while he works."

    This rings all sorts of alarm bells.

    1. Re:Scientists Baffled! by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      My first thought too; how hard would it be to take him to a sleep lab for a couple of nights and see exactly what happens?

  46. Fun Fact by caspy7 · · Score: 1

    Dolphins swim in a circle clockwise while one side of their brain sleeps and then counterclockwise while the other half sleeps.

  47. Difficult by DrYak · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying it souldn't be done. I'm simply saying that investigating this won't be as simple as investigating other sleep disorders.

    Even if he doesn't care if i was him I'd still want to know wtf was going on, one morning he might wake up in a pool of blood and have no clue what happened.

    And that is indeed a problem with sleep-walking.
    (There have been quite a few crimes reported to be done by sleep-walkers. Stabbing or fucking aren't such complicated motions and can be done buy only a small fraction of neurons firing up while the rest of the brain is sleeping).
    Luckily, unlocking a door with a key is a complex procedure which requires an almost fully functional brain (no surprise that awake but completely drunken people can't manage it neither).
    So to avoid hurting themselves or others, sleep-walking people who don't want to take medication are advised to remove any dangerous objects from their bedrooms, secure the windows to avoid falling through them, and lock themselves in. No bad surprise in the morning except maybe some mess in the bedroom. But no surprise blood baths.

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  48. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hmmm... looks fake. his art sucks, bad. (being genuinely honest.) i would bet he tried hard to be an artist but it didn't work out. only way anyone would think those paintings and such were amazing is because he was asleep. couldn't do the same while awake... i think it is realistic to say he may be lying about something.