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Zotac Releases GeForce GT 520 With Classic PCI Connector

jones_supa writes "It turns out that you can still get a legacy PCI graphics card with a modern GPU. In this case it's a Nvidia Geforce GT 520 card provided by Zotac. Both the PCI and PCIe x1 variants feature a GT 520 graphics chip with 48 stream processors, 512MB of DDR3 memory, a 810MHz core clock speed, a 1333MHz memory speed, and a 64-bit memory interface."

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  1. Performance by Spad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    PCI slots cap at 533 MB/s (and a lot are 133 or 266), which is less than a tenth of most PCIe x16 slots, so I can't imagine that you're going to be making the most of the hardware somehow.

    1. Re:Performance by armanox · · Score: 2

      I'd be more interested in seeing it in AGP myself.

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    2. Re:Performance by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      The 520 is one of the lowest-end within its generation.

      Also, cards like these often have a lot of media playback capabilities that aren't bandwidth-hungry. This could likely, for example, allow an old clunker system to be upgraded to Blu-Ray capabilities fairly cheaply.

      Due to the nature of PCI Express, it's actually easier for manufacturers to make PCI cards than AGP cards nowadays.

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    3. Re:Performance by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also, cards like these often have a lot of media playback capabilities that aren't bandwidth-hungry. This could likely, for example, allow an old clunker system to be upgraded to Blu-Ray capabilities fairly cheaply.

      GT520 should run VDPAU acceleration pretty well... It takes practically zero CPU power to shovel bits at the video card. This means practically any old box out there is an instant HDMI output mythtv frontend. Obviously I haven't tried it, but it should work fantastic.

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    4. Re:Performance by arbiter1 · · Score: 2

      i gotta 2nd that say you got an old Athlon XP, Pentium 4, even old Celeron that don't have PCI-e, With this card that only uses like 30 watts using hardware video decoder you got a use outta an old PC.

    5. Re:Performance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you are doing bitcoin mining a better use of the card would be sharpening it and driving it into your skull.

    6. Re:Performance by jandrese · · Score: 2

      At this point it is hard to imagine that you're even recovering the cost of power with Bitcoin mining. Isn't it down in the low single digits vs. the US$ on the Magic the Gathering exchange? And the complexity is so high that you just get a dribble of coins out of even a high end farm anymore. The only time mining made sense was a couple of years ago when there were still suckers buying the damn things and driving the price up.

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    7. Re:Performance by timeOday · · Score: 2
      The real reason to put a new card in an old computer is because manufacturers stop releasing drivers for old cards, and old drivers don't work with recent OSes (this is particularly bad under Linux).

      I just ditched a pretty good laptop (Thinkpad T60p) because ATI doesn't support the video card any more, and the generic drivers don't support the features that make it useful to me (DVI output through a docking station in this case).

    8. Re:Performance by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2

      I want a recent-generation video card which works well with classic 8-bit ISA bus. I have at least one IBM XT-class machine I want to run Starcraft II on.

      Have we created a new metric here of FPD (Frames Per Day)?

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    9. Re:Performance by Toonol · · Score: 2

      Right now, it's far cheaper to buy bitcoins with cash than to pay the power cost to mine them. If you think bitcoins will be the currency of the future, go spend a few hundred dollars on them.

    10. Re:Performance by tylernt · · Score: 2

      GT520 should run VDPAU acceleration pretty well

      Yep, this is exactly what my MythTV HTPC does, only using an older PCI card.

      It takes practically zero CPU power to shovel bits

      Case in point, my aforementioned HTPC is a Celeron (yes, a humble Celery) and plays all ATSC content (720p, 1080i) just fine.

      VDPAU rocks. PCI does the job.

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  2. Ideal for HTPC by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There are a TON of older computers that people still run with PCI slots. They would work just fine repurposed as a HTPC but until now there was no hardware acceleration available. The XBMC Forums will have someone come along that is looking for the "Best" PCI option and usually that involves either an SVIDEO or VGA connector. Some new TVs will have a VGA but not all of them.

  3. SERVERS!!! by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If the form factor is correct, then plenty of recent Xeon/Opteron servers, with a free PCI slot, suddenly become AWESOME desktop platforms. Around here, you can get late model 4-core Xeons, with maybe 8GB of RAM, on Craigslist, from name-brand companies [HP, Dell, etc], for circa $500. And they will be of VASTLY higher quality [with esp. vastly better motherboards] than the consumer-oriented junk that those same companies are peddling.

    1. Re:SERVERS!!! by erikscott · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are an awful lot of PCI slots in all sorts of embedded systems out there, and some of them may be looking for a graphics upgrade. For that matter, I still have instruments that have EISA slots in them. I suspect I'll be running them for another decade. 10Base2 is getting to be a pain to deal with, though.

    2. Re:SERVERS!!! by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      I have an old ISA 10BaseT card if you are serious...

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  4. Oh, SO going into my Alpha Personal Workstation... by derinax · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm hoping it's got a bog-standard PCI interface specification, so that the old PWS console firmware works with it. The PWS 600au works great with an ATI Radeon 9000, NetBSD + X11. Not so sure about the xorg support for the GT520 though. We'll see.

  5. Re:What by vlm · · Score: 2

    And what are you going to put this in, a PII? That won't help, the bottleneck is the processor (~400 MHz) or some other part of the ancient hardware.

    Running VDPAU video card acceleration on a zbox my CPU varies a lot depending on content but it would seem a pentium 75 Might be able to act as a mythtv frontend with this card. I think something in your specified PII era would be far more than enough. Especially since in ye olden days when mythtv was new, a PII was a kinda decent frontend, and its not like TV has changed much since then.

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  6. Re:You can also still buy carburetors by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    We like stories about blinkie things that cost money, what isn't a Slashvertisement, then!?

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  7. Re:You can also still buy carburetors by DigiTechGuy · · Score: 2

    But carbs are still very useful. Is there really much use in having a modern GPU on a PCI card? For those occasional legacy systems there are plenty of PCI cards floating around for cheap. Heck, I've got a stash of old PCI cards I'd gladly give away.

  8. Re:You can also still buy carburetors by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Informative

    I actually LIKE articles like this, as it gives me info on another option for my customers that are looking to upgrade to Win 7 but whose box doesn't have PCIe. I've found Windows 7 can run quite decently on a 2.2GHz P4 with 2Gb of RAM but there are a hell of a lot of machines out there without PCIe and AGP cards are frankly crazy high now.

    I just really wish someone would make some Radeon HD5xxx and 6xxx cards with AGP and make them sub $50 like they did for awhile with the HD2xxx and 3xxx cards. There are a lot of late model P4s that can easily and cheaply be upgraded to the Pentium D (I buy them all day long for less than $20 a chip) which works great even on MMOs like LOTRO and Perfect World but Windows 7 runs so much better and videos are so much smoother with a decent GPU for DXVA. With the economy still nasty having affordable options is always of the good in my book, So I like hearing about stuff like this and don't forget XP is still supported until 2014 so that is a hell of a lot of boxes out there that could run better with a GPU boost.

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