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News From Apple's iPhone Event

Apple is currently announcing various things about a new iPhone; the CNN Live has coverage as it is happening. Watch for updates as more information comes in. For those of you who like to read instead of watch, PC Magazine is^W was^W is running a live commentary stream (it broke and then unbroke). The New York Times also has a working live stream which seems more reliable. Update: 10/04 19:04 GMT by U L :Unexpectedly, Apple did not announce an iPhone 5, but rather an incremental update. CNet has a decent article about the features of the iPhone 4S. Additionally, all major carriers except T-Mobile will be getting the phone October 14th.

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  1. Wow by rlthomps-1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Twitter reports that /. has a thread that says that CNN has some info about some iPhone stuff. A marvel of modern communication

    1. Re:Wow by ericloewe · · Score: 2

      Epically so. I've never seen Engadget go down under pressure, not on E3, not during any Apple event I can remember, not during any other keynote... Are people *really* that excited about the iPhone 5?

    2. Re:Wow by edremy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Going up and down fairly gracefully, continue to refresh and it will come up.

      Am I wrong for finding this vaguely arousing?

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    3. Re:Wow by Amouth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      from a PR point it makes sense - it makes it had for you to find exact details - makes people look different places.. also gives the perception that it is larger of an even than it is. (if it was so small then a single source could handle the job easy).

      it's all part of the Reality Distortion Field Effect.

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    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yep. The thing is over now, so here is the sum total of the announcement:

      1. New camera. Has more megapixels. White balance may no longer suck. (That's the tweak.)
      2. You can now take pictures using the volume up button. (Really? Not with a camera button? Really: double tap the home button, press the "camera" icon, press the "volume up" button. That's "ease of use," apparently.)
      3. Remember how Android has a voice activation feature? iPhone is getting that now. Unlike the old "voice command" this one can now be used to search the web and enter text into text fields. Wasn't this available in Android 1? And as an app for iPhone?
      4. "New" processor (it's the iPad 2's)
      5. "Better than console game graphics." No, really. Seriously! They said that!
      6. Remember how the iPhone tracked your location, and everyone got upset about it? The new one uploads the location to iCloud and this is, somehow, a feature. So you can locate your phone through the cloud. (It's in your house! Thanks, GPS!)
      7. Antenna was redesigned. So you might be able to make calls and browse the web while holding the phone.
      8. Now supports Sprint.

      And that's it. That's everything.

    5. Re:Wow by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh and they tweaked the camera a bit...

      This is a big deal. I've been using a Droid X since it came out and despite it having a dedicated camera button, when you go to take a picture, it takes friggin' forever to fire up. Being able to fire up the camera in 1.1 seconds is HUGE. Just think of all the opportunistic upskirts and nose picks you'll be able to automatically post to your Twitter account!

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    6. Re:Wow by demonbug · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep. The thing is over now, so here is the sum total of the announcement:

      1. New camera. Has more megapixels. White balance may no longer suck. (That's the tweak.)
      2. You can now take pictures using the volume up button. (Really? Not with a camera button? Really: double tap the home button, press the "camera" icon, press the "volume up" button. That's "ease of use," apparently.)
      3. Remember how Android has a voice activation feature? iPhone is getting that now. Unlike the old "voice command" this one can now be used to search the web and enter text into text fields. Wasn't this available in Android 1? And as an app for iPhone?
      4. "New" processor (it's the iPad 2's)
      5. "Better than console game graphics." No, really. Seriously! They said that!
      6. Remember how the iPhone tracked your location, and everyone got upset about it? The new one uploads the location to iCloud and this is, somehow, a feature. So you can locate your phone through the cloud. (It's in your house! Thanks, GPS!)
      7. Antenna was redesigned. So you might be able to make calls and browse the web while holding the phone.
      8. Now supports Sprint.

      And that's it. That's everything.

      So you're saying that Steve left because he was too ashamed to be part of this announcement, and that whole sickness thing was just a coverup?

      Though really I'm not sure what people expected. You know, other than an iPhone 5 instead of 4S. Do you think Apple's marketing department was crapping themselves with all the talk and excitement on the web for iPhone 5, knowing that there would be massive disappointment when they revealed... iPhone 4.1?

    7. Re:Wow by masteroffm · · Score: 2

      i recently picked up a Galaxy S II on Sprint and one of the things that I really love about it is how quickly the camera fires up. while it doesn't have an option to jump to the camera from the lock screen, I keep a shortcut to the camera on my main home screen. I can hit the power button, unlock, hit camera, and take a picture in under three seconds

    8. Re:Wow by Toonol · · Score: 2

      5. "Better than console game graphics." No, really. Seriously! They said that!

      Ugh. This pains me. For the next few years, we can look forward to Apple fans repeating this talking point with a straight face.

    9. Re:Wow by demonlapin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To be fair, the Siri stuff is really, really cool. And it's way beyond what Android offers. The rest is just updating it to meet modern phone standards, true, but something that takes those kind of natural language queries and integrates them into the whole system is amazing. Check out the segment where he's having it read a text to him, does a schedule query, and then replies to the text - all via voice. (If you go to the Apple website and watch the video, that starts around 77:30.)

    10. Re:Wow by timeOday · · Score: 2

      To correct you, the PS3 was released in 2007.

      According to Wikipedia, it was released Nov 2006 in Japan. The US version, although released later, was not upgraded.

  2. shocked by w_dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm shocked, utterly shocked. Oh, not about anything in the presentation, I'm shocked that Slashdot actually got this story up when the event was happening and didn't link to a recording three days from now.

    1. Re:shocked by Penguinisto · · Score: 2, Informative

      Give it a couple days, then everyone can scream "dupe!"

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    2. Re:shocked by jmichaelg · · Score: 2

      Wow! I would have been *very* impressed had the link gone to a recording three days from now. CERN only managed to get the neutrinos in 60 nanoseconds ahead of now.

  3. Live? by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe we could wait until the announcement is finished for the story to get posted.

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    1. Re:Live? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The Apple fetishists are more than happy to see the reveal in slo-mo.

      To me, Apple product announcements are like Hollywood movie trailers: There's no need to seek them out, they'll be shoved down your throat even if you try to avoid them.

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    2. Re:Live? by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Maybe we could wait until the announcement is finished for the story to get posted.

      Why? Speculation is where all the excitement and fun are (aside finding the flaw, like the antenna one, later.)

      Once I see it has nothing I really need and the price (and plans) are excruciating, I go back to making tea.

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    3. Re:Live? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why? We didn't come here for news, we're here to argue!

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    4. Re:Live? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Apple fetishists are more than happy to see the reveal in slo-mo.

      The other half are the haters that need a few minutes to cook up a rationalization of why each new feature isn't really a big deal. "7x the processing power for a device whose major selling point is the App Store? Pftbt lame."

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    5. Re:Live? by sonicmerlin · · Score: 2

      Yeah the GPU blows everything else right now out of the water. The A5 is a monster, and deriving the kind of battery life Apple manages out of it with a sub 1500 mAh battery is just amazing. A lot of self-proclaimed technies don't really appreciate the design genius of Apple's engineers.

  4. One thing's for sure... by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sales of ironically overlarge non-functional fashion glasses, skinny pants, and funny hats will concomitantly go up in direct proportion to iPhone 5 sales.

  5. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by mr1911 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, Apple has to be a bunch of idiots to drive the smartphone and tablet markets like they do. And everyone who would use such a product is clearly retarded.

    Dr. Bob missed a perfect opportunity to inform us how chiropractic can cure the ills of carrying a giant chip on your shoulder.

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  6. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But why oh why must there be a slashvertisement for a media event to build hype and excitement? Whatever the product, let's wait until a few facts can be gleaned and the hype-blurb safely ignored.
    We might as well just demand equal hype for Dr. Bob's iChiropractic iApp for iOS which will iChange your iLife for the iBetter. It would be as reliable and accurate as the typical media event surrounding the launch of a mass-market consumer product.

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  7. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by neoform · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quick! I need to click the link for the Apple story, then post about how I don't care! This is a great use of my time!

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  8. Re:Who gives a hoot by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You seem to be having a difficult time with that.

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  9. Octoshape Grid Delivery Enhancement? by Relayman · · Score: 2

    Apparently, to get the live CNN video feed, I have to install the Octoshape Grid Delivery Enhancement to Flash. No thanks. If I don't install it, I get the stream starting at the beginning.

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  10. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by mr1911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No one forced you to ready the story. You clicked on it.

    So, Slashdot brought you a story you wanted to read, which just happened to be created by the marketing department at Apple.

    You complain about it, but here you are.

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  11. Re:My prediction by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

    You forgot the "Lame" at the end of your post.

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  12. No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by ad454 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A year and a half later, all that they can offer is a slightly better camera, faster CPU, and universal (GSM+CDMA) mobile. :(

    Most people including myself were hopefully for the thinner design, larger edge-to-edge 4 inch screen, metal back, NFC, 3D glassless display, 4G wireless data, etc. that were mentioned in the iPhone 5 rumours/hype. What a huge let down. No innovative must have features offer! Definitely not worth an update over the popular iPhone 4.

    It also sucks that you still can't play video podcasts in the iPod Nano like you used to 2 generations ago!

    In fact this entire iPhone+iPod refresh really is a big disappointment for me. I guess Apple does not think that hardware innovation is important anymore! What a great way to disappoint your fans, and have them look at other platforms that at least have some more frequent hardware improvements.

    1. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Informative

      The good news is that the original iPhone 4 is now cheaper.

      If you want new features this year, I think October 11 (Google/Samsung launch party) is the place to be.

    2. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by MLCT · · Score: 2

      I guess Apple does not think that hardware innovation is important anymore!

      They do - just very iteratively. Why bring out one new product with new features when you can get there via three intermediaries that you can sell on to the "must have" crowd for hundreds of dollars a time.

      It is Apple tactic No. 1, and Cook is full square behind it. They haven't become the highest value tech company by being nice! Apple are having their cake and eating it - huge profit margins on products that they can "update" by making tiny changes to it and a significant proportion of their loyal fanbase will go out and buy it all over again.

      I also wonder if this was a bit of a dry run for Tim Cook - he can get a feel for the stage walk presenting with a low risk iterative launch - much easier than a high stakes new product launch where he could fluff and cause problems.

    3. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by MrCrassic · · Score: 2

      Most people including myself were hopefully for the thinner design, larger edge-to-edge 4 inch screen, metal back, NFC, 3D glassless display, 4G wireless data, etc. that were mentioned in the iPhone 5 rumours/hype. What a huge let down. No innovative must have features offer! Definitely not worth an update over the popular iPhone 4.

      While all of this is true, the refresh will still sell like mini-hotcakes. There are the people that jump at any new revision Apple puts out, the people that can finally have an iPhone on Sprint (there are still a LOT of people on Sprint) and the folks that actually are interested in the new features it provides. This will probably be like the iPhone 3Gs release in that its announcement was a bit less bombastic as its predecessor, but still enough of a worthy upgrade for many people.

      The two problems I see with this in today's climate is that (a) it's certainly faster, but not that much faster than iPhone 4 like the 3Gs was to the 3G and (b) Android is a LOT more mature, both technically and professionally, than it was during the time of the 3Gs. It was well ahead of any other phone out there, though they were slowly catching up. The 4Gs, on the other hand, caught up to the Samsung Galaxy S II...and they are about to release a new Nexus phone soon. This is even more pressing given the much wider selection of apps available on the Market and Google's cloud offerings to date.

      The iPhone still has the edge on user experience, but today's (comparably dull) conference left me wondering if that's the only edge they have left.

    4. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by harperska · · Score: 2

      Thing is, Apple didn't do anything to set up expectations, unless you believe the conspiracy theories that all the rumors are planted by Apple PR. Remember, no Apple product exists until Steve or now Tim announces it on stage. Anything before that is merely speculation, and unrealistic expectations are created in the rumor mill echo chamber. It's a trade off really, as Apple has chosen historically to not tip their hand as to what products they are working on. So the rumor mill fills in the blanks with wild speculation. So it's either let everybody know what you're working on and risk competitors beating you to market, or keep quiet and risk disappointment among the fans when their hyped up assumptions prove wrong.

    5. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by harperska · · Score: 2

      Apple's stock has always taken a dip the day of a big announcement, when the fanboys are disappointed that the hyped up rumors they believed in turned out to be false regardless of how good the announced product really is. But the stock always rebounds and grows once the market realizes that what was released was actually pretty good and forgets about the unrealistic promises from the rumor mill.

      And Apple has always taken a 'less is more' approach rather than a 'cram in all the cutting edge features any geek has ever heard of'' approach. And it has worked pretty well for them as the features they do chose to include they can take time to polish.

    6. Re:No iPhone 5, just iPhone 4s by Dahamma · · Score: 2

      Of course, putting in an A5 chip, nice 3D graphics, a much improved camera w/ 1080p video, Bluetooth 4.0, 14Mbps HSDPA, and AirPlay wireless video mirroring is a bit more than "tiny changes".

      Sounds like a solid upgrade to an existing platform. Actually, sounds more like they pretty much gutted the interior and just reused the case. None of the specs are leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, but many people like their iPhones and this is a nice upgrade for most. The only people who should be whining are the Apple design fanboys who feel the need to show off their new toy to everyone in their local cafe/restaurant/bar/movie theater every 5 minutes.

  13. And... by Petersko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cue dickheads making derogatory statements about iOS device owners for no good reason other than an assumed - and misplaced - feeling of technical superiority.

  14. Re:Oh exploitable by knappe+duivel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "The camera app is now accessible from the lock screen. Double-tap the home button and you can go directly to the camera app, no password or anything required."

    Hmmmm......

    what, does your nikon or canon require a password?

  15. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by gmon750 · · Score: 2

    Nonsense... this just shows your cluelessness. If you want a stock that does nothing but go up, then I have stock in Unicorn Inc. I'll sell you.

    Fact: AAPL has been consistently going up for ages now. They have a great lineup now, and for the foreseeable future. They have a ridiculous amount of cash on hand, and time-and-time again the bitching of /.'rs preaching the "Apple is doomed" mantra has been proven wrong.

    So it goes down 3%. BFD! Considering how high my AAPL holdings have gone up since I bought a bunch more - during the 2008 meltdown - ignoring the whining and bitching from folks like you about wasting my money, I am quite happy with the current level and after phantards like you finish your weekly anti-apple propaganda, the stock will continue to lead the industry. Continue ranting, I'll continue cashing in. Buh-bye...

  16. Re:For something far more rewarding... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Onion's story was an excellent summary of the event in advance I believe.

    During a highly anticipated media event held today at the Apple corporation’s world headquarters, CEO Tim Cook announced the new iPhone 4S is good and people should buy it. “It’s a good phone,” said Cook, walking out onto a stage and gesturing at a picture of the device projected on a large screen behind him. "It's got e-mail, the Internet, and you can get apps on it. Everybody should get one. It's good." After standing in place for another four seconds without speaking, Cook walked off stage, at which point the houselights came up and all in attendance were asked to please file out of the auditorium.

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  17. Re:Pass the popcorn and chocolate rain by Scowler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's pathetic, isn't it. In the Slashdot of old, there would be a lot of people dissecting the new features, especially Siri and the new camera, comparing those features to competitors (objectively), maybe explaining the prior art or comparative products that exist. There would still be a lot of criticism, but by and large most of it would be of the objective kind. The slashdot of now? A bitter cesspool of trollish negativity.

  18. Re:Yawn! Who cares? by harperska · · Score: 2

    Actually, I'm not surprised at all, and kind of wish the fanboys who are raging that the new phone doesn't shit rainbows and have a '5' in its name would sell off more of their stock and depress the value even more so that I can afford to buy some AAPL for myself.

  19. Re:Apple Disappoints -- Again by SlowGenius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There was one, and only one mega-fail here. It didn't happen today. It happened when Apple made their announcement of "Let's talk iPhone" and then failed to keep expectations within line. Everybody has now been buzzing about the dual iPhone 4S/iPhone 5 announcement for the past couple of weeks. Without an iPhone 5 announcement to be made today, Apple needed to kill that rumor DEAD. Instead, they've managed to totally underwhelm the world with a new product launch for a fine incremental update for something that would have looked fairly decent if examined in its own light. Mr. Cook, I'm sorry to inform you that you just flunked the oral portion of your CEO marketing exam and that the board is likely soon going to be announcing your imminent departure from the top spot. Nice knowing you.

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  20. Re:Pass the popcorn and chocolate rain by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2

    Well, here it can be fun to watch people traffic in stereotypes (and weird oxymoron ones, like mainstream hipsters).

    On news sites it's depressing because there is discussion of actual important issues, as opposed to what gadget someone watches their German BDSM porn on (not tat I know about any of that, no sir, not me). On the Right sites it's all "Obama am teh anti-Jesus" and on the Left sites it's all "If your child shows any desired to be a businessman, kill it immediately, for it is evil, and unclean in the sight of Gaia."

    And, yeah, I know I just picked on using stereotypes, but my two goofy examples are not *that* far off the mark for some sites.

    My favorite this month was some women hating on the new My Little Pony for making the ponies "slim and sexy" and wanting to know where the fat ponies were.

    "Eaten by wolves because they can't run as fast," I responded. They were not amused. :-)

  21. Re:Kinda sucks... by Lifyre · · Score: 2

    You could try Sprint? I'm not saying they're better (in fact from my experience there is a good reason they're failing) but you could get the iPhone without dealing with ATT or Verizon.

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  22. Re:Apple Disappoints -- Again by hoppo · · Score: 2

    Is this really any different than Apple's strategy all along? Come out with a phone, and make incremental improvements each year. Every other year (except for 1-3g jump) has been the major refresh mark. If you come out with a majorly new product each year, you stand to alienate your customer base -- the majority of customers will balk at feeling pressure to refresh their devices every year. This puts people on a 2-year track, which also coincides with the term of carrier contracts.

    And face it, Apple has never attempted to cater to the device geek market, except maybe with the very first iPhone (and that's a stretch). Instead, they have focused on enhancing features that are important to everyday use, often centering around a single aspect. In this case it's battery life and form factor. It may be lacking 4G, but you will make it through the day on a single charge, without having to do much, if anything, to optimize battery usage. And it will fit pretty comfortably in your pocket.

    That's been Apple's MO with all their products -- make consumer-grade devices that do the important things well, and leave other competition for the early adopters. I like a lot of the Android phones, but I wish one of them would take a similar strategy and make them accessories as opposed to focal points -- take a break from cramming new features in and turn attention to gaining energy efficiency and making the things smaller.

  23. Re:Crap comments :( by bledri · · Score: 2

    The only comments I've seen regarding Siri claim that Android has had it for 2 years now. If they are talking about about voice recognition to dial numbers and play songs, then Apple has had that for years as well. If Android has had conversational, contextual voice recognition that seamlessly integrates all the core apps plus external information sources allowing the user to speak naturally, then a lot of marketing dweebs in several companies should be fired because I've never heard of it.

    Anyway, I can't wait to see how Siri works in the real world. If it works even half as well as the demo, it seems like a big deal to me. As in "killer app" big. Truthfully I was confused by the audience's staid reaction, I don't think understood how awesome the potential of it is.

    Yeah, I sound like a fanboy.

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