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Civil Suit Filed, Involving the Time Zone Database
An anonymous reader writes "Arthur David Olson, the creator and maintainer of the timezone database used in about every unix/linux platform in use on the planet, just sent the message to the timezone mailing list: 'A civil suit was filed on September 30 in federal court in Boston; I'm a defendant; the case involves the time zone database. The ftp server at elsie.nci.nih.gov has been shut down. The mailing list will be shut down after this message. Electronic mail can be sent to me at @gmail.com. I hope there will be better news shortly.
--ado' A Google search does not yet reveal anything about this; does someone know what is going on?"
Not a lot of detail here:
http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/copyright-lawsuits/massachusetts-district-court/82641/astrolabe-inc-v-arthur-david-olson/summary/
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/massachusetts/madce/1:2011cv11725/139342/
but appears to be a copyright infringement suit.
Just was reading http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database-04 apparently it looks like Arthur Olson was planning to retire. IETF was planning to take on the custody of the role and host the list? I wonder if this is related?
Would that happen to be the same Astrolabe Inc. behind this company selling astrology software?
I've pulled the complaint from PACER and uploaded it to docstoc:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/98231225/ACS-Atlas
COMPLAINT, REQUEST FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, RESTRAINING ORDER,
DAMAGES AND TRIAL BY JURY
Parties
1. Plaintiff, Astrolabe, Inc. [hereinafter “Astrolabe”], is a for-profit
Massachusetts corporation with a principal place of business at 350 Underpass
Road, P.O. Box 1750, Brewster, Barnstable County, Commonwealth of
Massachusetts 02631, and is engaged in the business of publication, marketing
and sale, including computer software publications and/or programs
pertaining to the field of astrology.
2. Defendant, Arthur David Olson [hereinafter “Olson”], is an individual with a
last and usual residence at 7406 Hancock Avenue, #2, Takoma Park,
Maryland 20912, and with a usual an ordinary place of business as a computer
specialist at the Laboratory of Experimental Carcinogenesis, Building 37,
Room 4146A, National Cancer Institute, National Institute of Health, 37
Convent Drive, MSC 4262, Bethesda, Maryland 20892.
3. Defendant, Paul R. Eggert [hereinafter “Eggert”], is an individual with a last
and usual residence in the State of California, who is engaged in the business
of computer services and programming, and employed as a lecturer with the
University of California, Los Angeles, Computer Science Department, with a
principal business address of: UCLA Computer Science, Box 951596,
4532JBH, Los Angeles, Calfiornia 90095-1596.
Case 1:11-cv-11725-GAO Document 1 Filed 09/30/11 Page 1 of 5
Jurisdiction
4. Pursuant to a written agreement, Astrolabe is the copyright assignee of the
copyright owner, of certain copyright-protected computer software programs
and information contained therein, pursuant to the Copyright Protection Act,
17 U.S.C. Section 101, et seq., known as the “ACS Atlas,” consisting of both
the “ACS International Atlas,” and the “ACS American Atlas,” in the form of
computer software program(s) and/or data bases, and in the form of electronic
output and future electronic media from said programs [hereinafter “the Works”].
5. These atlases set forth interpretations of historical time zone information
pertaining to innumerable locations throughout the world, based upon the
compilation of historical research and documentation regarding applicable
time zones officially and/or in actuality in effect, given the actual latitude and
longitudes of specific locations throughout the world.
6. Upon information and belief, defendants Olson and Eggert have unlawfully
reproduced the Works, in violation of the Copyright Protection Act, without
proper permission and/or authorization from the copyright holder, and without
paying royalties due and payable to the copyright holder and/or its assignee,
Astrolabe, in computer software format.
7. Plaintiff, Astrolabe publishes, markets and sells its ACS Atlas programs (the
Works) for commercial profit purposes to, inter alia, those interested and/or
engaged in the business and field of astrology seeking to determine the
historical time at any given time in any particular location, world-wide.
8. In connection with its rights to reproduce the Works, plaintiff Astrolabe is
contractually obligated to pay royalties to the owner/assignor of the copyright
and the authors of the same.
Facts
9. Defendant Olson’s unauthorized reproduction of the Works have been
published at ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/tzarchive.qz, where the references to
historic international time zone data is replete with references to the fact that
the source for this information is, indeed, the ACS Atlas.
10. In connection with his unlawful publication of some and/or any portion of the
Works, defendant Olson has wrongly and unlawfully asserted that this
information and/or data is “in the public domain,” in violation of the
protections afforded by the federal copyright laws.
11. Defendant Eggert’s unauthorized repro
Here's a decent and quick summary, clipped in part from the complaint. Short version: Astrolabe, Inc. has purchased the copyright to the American Atlas and is claiming that because Olson and others used the atlas as a source for some timezone information, the entire database infringes.
http://www.thedailyparker.com/PermaLink,guid,c5f28bae-4b9c-41ea-b7b7-8891ad63c938.aspx
Of course, the timezone information itself is public - the atlas only collected it.
Let us live so that when we come to die, even the undertaker will be sorry -- Mark Twain
The source is so widely replicated it would be difficult to truly retract, for example it's here for those who are interested in looking at it to look for potentially infringing pieces.
Isn't the TZ database a collection of facts and therefore not subject to copyright protection ?
If I'm correct then the answer to this suit should be a very short "Fuck off, Troll"
But, is it used in any unix/linux platforms not in use on the planet? What about off the planet?
Seems simple... The ones not in use have no need of timezone info. The ones on different planets would need timezones for whatever planet they are on.
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Under USA law all information and data is in the public domain. Only creative expression is protected by copyright.
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
In this case, the copyright law doesn't have to be modified. It already specifies that facts cannot be copyrighted.
I think what you want is tort reform.
"Here Lies Philip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit"
The defendant in this case should file an immediate claim for recover of damages for the down time suffered plus attorneys fees.
It is facts being copied, not a creative work. The facts are coming from other sources -- they are not making these facts up out of thin air. That they collected and sold the facts is not relevant -- there is no blood, sweat or tears to be accounted for in copyright claims. We have seen this before in phone books, in baseball statistics and more. I can't think of a single instance where factual data was protected by copyright and succeeded in court. (I even recall an attempt at a city or county government asserting copyright claims over laws! You know, the words on pages we are all bound by?)
So unless someone can cite a case where it was facts (and not formatting) that were successfully protected in court under copyright law, I don't think this case will fly too high.
This will be expensive for defendants, however and so I would recommend preparing to collect damages sooner rather than later.
Whoever related this to the SCO litigation is closer than he knows. The timezone database has been widely hosted and replicated - most notably on *.gov servers. A finding of copyright infringement could allow the plaintiff to collect against all sorts of entities - including the US government. I also suspect that statutory damages are possible. So, winning this case would be a massive massive payday.
The defenses include that the data itself is factual and that the atlas data itself has been used openly and notoriously for so many years that the copyright is extinguished by laches. Something that can add strength to the defense is that the form (as in formatting, data storage, etc.) of the factual data is different.
Regardless of all that, this case could get pushed pretty far through the appeals process. Those US government pockets are deep are about as deep as they get. Someone also mentioned IBM's bug squashing abilities. Has the database been hosted off a *.ibm.com location?
For those wanting to check out the case law, the place to start is:
Feist Publications, Inc., v. Rural Telephone Service Co., 499 U.S. 340 (1991)
In a more open source centric mode, has anyone thrown down a web site for gathering timezone info?
I am a lawyer, but not yours. Anything I tell you might be a total lie intended to benefit my clients at your expense.
Atlas companies have used copyright traps before.. Just add a couple fake towns on your map, and if you find another company selling a map with those towns, you know you can sue them for copying your map.
Could a company add a fake time zone to a list of time zones, name it something funny (creative), and claim copyright infringement when it appears in a database? Since really, it's not a fact at all, the made up entry was... art?
the obvious solution is to create a new list of timezones for people to use. so... who will it be?
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
About 10 years ago I created a startup that used the ACS database. ACS used to stand for Astro Computing Services and they used to publish ephemera as well as several publications which allowed you to lookup timezone information. This is a fairly extensive set of data if you want to translate local time at a particular time in the past (say, someone's time of birth as recorded on a birth certificate) into UTC time. Time zones have changed, time change rules have changed (for example, double summer time was observed in England during WWII) and one of the books I used to have from ACS (published back in the 1980s) claimed that this information had been compiled from a wide variety of historical records. One possible scenario is that Olson had written permission to use some parts of the data but a troll has purchased the copyright and is trying to profit from it and pretending they don't know nothin' about no permission. That would be a crying shame since putting the data in such a compressed form that is used on countless *nix servers and devices was an immense task - the original database was an ugly conglomeration of flat files that needed quite a bit of spanking to get it into a useable format, and was certainly not within orders of magnitude of the compactness of the Olson database. Anyway, on the surface, if this is the same ACS database there is quite a lot of data involved, much of it covering historical edge conditions, but I haven't checked to see how many of the edge conditions prior to 1970 are reproduced in the Olson database. From what little I know of the way these things work, the plaintiff would have to show that there was willful infringement without permission and that some damages occurred, but there would not be any value in the ACS data unless you needed to know with great reliability whether daylight savings time was in effect, say, in some rural county in Indiana at 4:06 am on 21 October 1947 (and for that matter, what was the timezone).
a) ACS is not the copyright holder and therefore probably does not have the right to sue - see the recent Righthaven judgements
b) Fair Use
i) the TZ DB is not for profit and as an information service
ii) The historical facts with respect to dates and timezones are not subject to copyright. With specific reference to the facts presented in the Atlas, Astrolabe would only have copyright on the creative expression of those facts in the exact format of the Atlas, and not to a database table of timezones, whether they were derived from the facts contained in the Atlas or not
iii) The work of the timezone database, whilst citing the Atlas, is transformative and therefore not a breach of the original copyright.
c) Limitation of damages
ACS Atlas cannot claim any damages from prior to the date their own database was available (estoppel?).
I'm surprised the judge granted the temporary injunction; it could be denied simply on the grounds that innumerable third parties would be harmed in the event that the case were found to be baseless.
Incidentally, if you're someone using the database, forget amicus briefs and start filing declaration of non-infringement lawsuits with respect to the database in your own jurisdiction; they're very expensive to defend in every state ( see Righthaven)
I'm a Slashdot commentator, not a lawyer, so don't follow the above advice without consulting one.
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>
#include <std/ianal.h>
NFL's weapon in this context is trademark, not copyright. You can talk about the score when Oakland played Pittsburgh all day long, but if you mention the teams' actual names in a commercial context you'll likely need a license. That's also why so many ads for sports bars talk about watching the "big game" or "football championship". NFL's trademark enforcement is so over-the-top I've actually heard radio ads where they lampooned it (and probably tempted fate) by advertising a "Su[BLEEP]wl party".
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This is an outrageous attack against a case of perfectly legal use of published data.
Where tzdata has used information from ACS atlas, it quotes it source (Thomas Shanks, former employee of ACS Inc, San Diego, who appears as author on the printed books American Atlas and International Atlas).
In each case, the information published by Shanks was critically reviewed by the tzdata community. In many cases, Shanks' information was rejected, in many cases it was accepted over other contradicting (or confirming) information.
Shanks did not create the information in his published books, he collected it from other published sources, though the books fail to name the source of the information in nearly all case.
Relevant sources of Shanks, especially for International atlas, were
- Gabriel, Traite de l'heure dans le Monde, Paris
- Henri Le Corre, Regimes Horaires pour l'Eruope et l'Afrique
- Doris Chase Doane, Time changes in the world
- Doris Chase Doane, Time changes in the USA
- Curran and Taylor, World daylight saving time, Chicago 1935
many other publications appearing in the astrology domain.
The two books by Shanks consist to 95% of lists of towns with longitude and latitude, their assignment to counties or provinces, and their assignment to timezone
history tables. tzdata uses NOTHING of this information, as tzdata does not contain assignments of towns to zones, except the single town in each zone used for naming it.
Shanks has about 2000 of different timezone history tables, they make up about 5% of the books volume.
tzdata has only about 400 different timezone history tables, because tzdata is historically not complete. It is only complete for the post 1970 era (where ACS is incomplete, and where ACS newer editions have used a lot of data taken from tzdata. Legitmately without quoting the source, as tzdata is public domain.)
Tzdata quotes Shanks for about 100 of these tables (I gues, I did not count), as one of the sources of historical timezone information.
In each case, the data given of Shanks were critically reviewed.
A perfectly legitimate use of published data.
The information about which time public clocks showed at a particular date in a particular country or region is by its very nature public information. It is not subject to copyright. Shanks does not own it, he has only collected it, and he is as often false as other collectors are sometimes false.
The use tzdata makes of such information is fully legitimate. It did by no means copy data from these books. It critically reviewed some of the information found there, and used a small amount (maybe 1% of the book content) in a completely different context and different representation.
The attempt by Astrolabe to claim private rights on public domain data must be forcefully resisted by the tzdata community.
I would hope that large users of tzdata, like Apple (in IOS and MAC OS-X), Redhat and other Linux distributors etc will contribute to a defense fund for Olson, and/or contribute legal assistance.
Plus: Astrolabe has very little money