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iOS 5 Update Available

tekgoblin writes "Apple has released the iOS 5 update. To update to iOS 5 just open iTunes with your iDevice connected to your computer and press update. I recommend doing a manual backup of your iDevice and make sure all your apps are transferred."

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  1. umm... by Mockylock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Already years ahead of everything else"? I'm guessing that's why they're adding features that catch up to Android and even some from WP7. But, hey.. if you're a fan, it doesn't mean you need to know about other devices around you, as long as it's shiny and made by Apple, it will suffice.. and if it doesn't, they'll make sure that you think it does.

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    1. Re:umm... by Thantik · · Score: 5, Informative

      iCloud for music is excellent. Especially with the service that scans your MP3 stash and allows you to download AAC files on the go. This functionality is something Android lacks

      Actually, Google has Google Music which does basically the same thing. You just select the files/playlists, etc for "offline use" and it caches them to your device. Or you can just stream it while on the go. Google Music has been available for...uh, 6ish months now.

      Also, Google+ auto uploads any taken pictures to your G+ account, set to private, so you can share them at-whim. So, Android has that feature too...again, has for months.

    2. Re:umm... by rthille · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish you damn whippersnappers would stop using WP7 for Windows Phone 7... I keep having to wonder what the hell Word Perfect has to do with a discussion on cell phones...

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  2. Re:Is there a technical reason for no OTA updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You need iOS 5 for this lol

  3. Re:Neat. by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cue antidisestablishmenterianist Apple apologists in 3...2...

    I believe they prefer to be called iPologists.

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  4. Re:iDevice by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    Day terk hiz werb!

  5. This is advertising by chrism238 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot should demand 30% from Apple for these advertorials.

  6. Re:As usual, not the first for the basics by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But Time Machine just rolls it all up to work perfectly with no learning curve.

    ...except when it doesn't work, ditches your backup volume, and requires a complete new backup. Please stop pretending that Apple technology is more than it is.

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  7. That didn't take too long to fail by _xeno_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.

    Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.

    And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?

    I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.

    Awesome.

    Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.

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    1. Re:That didn't take too long to fail by quietwalker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Savor your walled garden, secure in the knowledge that because you're not trusted enough to meddle with it, nothing can go wrong. This is, after all, what users want.

    2. Re:That didn't take too long to fail by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      Thank you for updating your Apple products. Please rate your upgrade experience:

      1. Insanely Great!
      2. Magical
      3. Innovative
      4. Religious Ecstasy

    3. Re:That didn't take too long to fail by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      I started downloading before the Slashdot story was posted. It was kind of fun to watch the "time remaining" thing slow to a crawl. The last 15 seconds took a good minute.

      Also, small update: turns out the phone hadn't crashed, it was just frozen displaying the lock screen with a time 6 minutes in the past. It eventually rebooted on its own. So at least I still have a phone.

      Another interesting factoid: you can't just drag iTunes into the trash to delete it. Mac OS X won't let you. Instead you have to open the Applications folder, select it, and press Command-Delete. (I'm doing the complete reinstall off memory, let's see how well this goes!)

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    4. Re:That didn't take too long to fail by maccodemonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

      "That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down."

      Or you could use the official method of holding down both the home and lock button until it restarts. It'll even restart a crashed device.

  8. Re:I did mine a year and a half back. by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't see iOS becoming too much closer to Android for one big reason: Google offers adb install for free, while Apple charges $99 per year for the privilege.

  9. Re:iDevice by elguap0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow, Siri's speech-to-text is horrible!!

  10. Re:hardware requirements by harperska · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iOS 4 runs so craptastically on my 3G that it probably shouldn't have been available for that phone in the first place. There was absolutely no surprise whatsoever that it is only available on the 3GS and better.

  11. Wrong Comparisons by Anubis350 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What, you think there won't be an article when Android ICS comes out? That's the equivalent....

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  12. Re:Is there a technical reason for no OTA updates? by fishnuts · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When Android became decent: When more than 5 major players in the mobile communications market realized they have a strong, extensible, customizable platform to build a phone on (Samsung, Motorola, LJ, HTC, Sony-Ericsson, etc)
    When Android became stable: From personal experience, I've only had to hard-reset my phone twice in the last year. The OS has a few minor inconsistencies, but they're specific to my model and Sprint-customized release of the OS, thus caused by something other than just "being Android"

    When Android became something people desire on their phones: Years ago when people realized they could buy a very capable smart phone with features Apple doesn't offer, and not be locked into one carrier or one manufacturer.

    Crappy screens: You must have only experienced a small screen on an old phone. At least half the Android phones sold now have resolution and screen size equivalent or better than iPhone's, and some even offer 3D (Which I've played with, and is quite cool)

    Netflix must have taken "years" because, like many other vendors, Netflix may have had an exclusivity agreement with Apple for a while, or they're just a slow adopter of technology that's outside of their primary distribution path (Personal computers). I don't remember having any problem using Netflix from within my web browser, anyway, so it's not like the system was completely unreachable from Android users.

    5% of the games available for iOS? This is quite subjective. iOS may have 20 times as many games on the iTunes store, but there are still only 50 or so games that dominate both markets, the other 10,000 games get buried in the noise and never take off, so your point is moot.

    Most Androids have talk times of 2 hours? [Citation Needed] I've experienced talk time over 3.5 hours on my Samsung, because I was close to a cell tower and had GPS/Bluetooth/WiFi disabled. Conversely, I've known people who've complained that their iPhones had short call times, due to either old batteries that they've been unable to replace, or due to being far from the cell tower. "Most Androids" is subjective and depends on the experiences you've exposed yourself to.

    The back button on the Android has completely random behaviour because you must have been using an app that randomly changed its function. In my experience, and the experience of most Android users, the back button does what it needs to do. At worst, it serves exactly three functions: 1) Previous screen within an app, 2) previous page in the web browser, or 3) previous page in a settings dialog. If that's too many functions for you to handle in one button, I'm sorry.

    Any changes in behavior caused by the vendor is something you should bring up with the vendor. I happen to enjoy having the choice of what vendor to buy from or what OS version to use. Last I heard, if something in iOS didn't do what you liked or what you expected, you have absolutely no choice to change it or choose another OS vendor. Sorry that you're so bitter about this.

  13. Update process by Superken7 · · Score: 5, Informative

    1. Connect iPad to macbook
    2. iTunes detects iOS 5 is available, I hit update button
    3. WARNING! Unsynced items, I am going to delete all your precious apps, do you want to continue? Mind you, I won't offer an option in the dialog that says: "backup my stuff and then continue".
    4. I click sync and the system detects that this is a new macbook: "Looks like this is a new, unauthorized device! If you proceed, all your iPad contents will be NUKED! haha!"
    5. Cancel and look around for a while trying to find a way of doing the obvious thing.
    6. Find the "transfer my stuff" option that warns that only authorized content will be transfered. Duh-huh.. OK.
    7. Need to authorize my device, only 3 left. Geee... well, OK..
    8. Everything but 4 items get transferred. Not pretty, but good enough.
    9. Try to update now: warning about unsynced items persists. Scary, but I go on since step 7. doesn't improve even after trying several times in different ways.
    10. ..Long update process, its 700MB after all... BANG! Your device coul not be restored, internal error occurred.
    11. iPad library must be deleted because it can only be synced with one device at a time. .. bla bla bla all the iPad contents will be replaced by this macbook's library contents. VERY SCARY, but there is no other way as far as I see. Well... OK.
    12. Update again...wait...wait...wait... yes, I want to use iCloud, yes I want to use localization, re-enter my apple ID, yes, yes yes a couple more times...
    13. .. and all my stuff is __GONE__ !
    14. Go to iTunes, explicitly tell it to sync applications, hit sync..
    15. Only a few apps have been restored
    16. Back to iTunes, manually check all applications that you want to have restored (why are most of them unchecked and not synced by default!?)
    17. Sync..
    18. ..wait..wait..wait...wait.... FINALLY. DONE.

    Conclusion: ARE YOU F****** KIDDING ME?

    NOT pretty, VERY SCARY.
    But in the end it worked (miraculously).
    Seriously, why on earth would someone design a syncing process that makes it SO EASY to lose all your stuff? Why not a single step?

    Let's hope that OTA updates take this nightmarish process away. We'll see.

  14. Troll? Re:That didn't take too long to fail by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you trolling? I don't think anything at all you've said in your posts is right?

    1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.

    2) I've never ever had to do anything remotely like you claim about removing kernel extensions and rebooting 3 times with iTunes, and in the past month I have bounced forwards and backwards between several beta versions. (b8 -> b9 -> b7 -> 10.5 all worked flawlessly). Just download a new version of iTunes and the installer will upgrade it anyway.

    3) I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.

    4) If you're not comfortable with GUI instructions and are at all competent with a bash/csh commandline, just fire up terminal and using su or sudo delete to your heart's contact. kextstat / kextunload / kextload can be used to view, load, and unload kernel extensions, but I've only ever had to use those commands when I was developing one. sudo rm -fr /Applications/iTunes.app/ etc

    5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.

    I'm afraid I've only fed into your ego honey pot, but whatever...

    1. Re:Troll? Re:That didn't take too long to fail by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

      1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.

      Oh crap, you're right, that was supposed to read "the iOS update," which is 700MB. I have no clue how large the iTunes update was because I didn't bother watching that download.

      2) I've never ever had to do anything remotely like you claim about removing kernel extensions and rebooting 3 times with iTunes

      You only need to do that if you need to reinstall iTunes. Which is what the support article for "our update authentication servers are down" tells you to do for some braindead reason.

      3) I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.

      Only works in Finder. I was trying to do it from the Applications stack in the Dock, because you can do that with apps you've installed yourself. Doing it that way just silently fails.

      5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.

      It used to be in there somewhere, for what to do if a hard reset doesn't work. Which, now that the support site is up again, turns out to be holding both the Wake/Sleep button and the Home button for 10 seconds. That's intuitive.

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  15. Re:And ease of use has tanked since Steve died... by edremy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And to add insult to injury, the update failed. "The iPad XXX could not be restored. An internal error occured."

    Thanks Apple. It just works- until it doesn't, and then you're fucked because there's no obvious way to fix anything since it's all locked away in the shiny box.

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