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iOS 5 Update Available
tekgoblin writes "Apple has released the iOS 5 update. To update to iOS 5 just open iTunes with your iDevice connected to your computer and press update. I recommend doing a manual backup of your iDevice and make sure all your apps are transferred."
"Already years ahead of everything else"? I'm guessing that's why they're adding features that catch up to Android and even some from WP7. But, hey.. if you're a fan, it doesn't mean you need to know about other devices around you, as long as it's shiny and made by Apple, it will suffice.. and if it doesn't, they'll make sure that you think it does.
"Please, shut up. Just when I think you can't say anything more stupid, you speak again." -Archie Bunker.
Is there a technical reason that Apple can't provide over-the-air updates for their devices?
They stole my word! Sweet
So it was your fault? Thanks a lot.
But as usual, the first to make the whole concept work together so well even the average brain-dead consumer has no problem using it to its potential.
Look at Time Machine. We've had differential backups for years, "shadow copy" in Windows even. But Time Machine just rolls it all up to work perfectly with no learning curve.
While reading the iOS5 features page (http://www.apple.com/ios/features.html), I went down to the "Mail" section and saw:
"Format text using bold, italic, or underlined fonts. Create indents in the text of your message."
Is that really something they should be advertising? Pretty advanced stuff..
Cue antidisestablishmenterianist Apple apologists in 3...2...
I believe they prefer to be called iPologists.
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Slashdot should demand 30% from Apple for these advertorials.
Couldn't the submitter at least have posted some of the features new to the release? For those too lazy (or who don't care enough) to RTFA (or is it a press release?): -Integrated Twitter -Over-the-air updating (So the device doesn't need to be connected to a computer running iTunes) -Sync with iTunes via Wifi -iPad multitasking gestures -Rich editor for composing emails
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Except ... not at all.
After a slowing DL - from 4 to 6 to 17 to 18 minutes - I finally received an error message telling me my install didn't work. After a quick Apple.com check I went back into iTunes and hit the install button again. It didn't DL anything this time, so I don't know if it installed 4.35 again or 5. It's restoring my iPod apps now. Been taking a while actually. I hope it isn't trying to install every app on the PC cause it ain't gonna fit on my 8gig iPod Touch, not by a longshot. This is my first Apple update after only owning my iPod for 2 months so I'm about as newbie at this as anyone is going to get. Glad I didn't wait though for the new iPod Touch announcement last week - ooooh, white. (I already paid a straight $199 at Amazon.) Wishing everybody else good luck w/ their updates.
Good luck actually getting it or transitioning to iCloud or anything. Their servers seem to be swamped and unresponsive.
I suggest waiting a day or two just so you have a smoother upgrade process.
Their may be a grammatical error, misspeling, or evn a typo in this post.
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It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
Someone needs to lay off of the haterade.
Depends on how many racing forum readers have that Mercedes SUV. Selling over 20 million iPhones a quarter, I would suspect that many here would be affected. I would also think that the next release of Android 3.X would also get news.
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"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
so are OTA updates a way to kill off jailbreaking for good.
once an exploit is out in the open, congrats you've been upgraded to 5.1 while you were sleeping enjoy.
That didn't take too long to fail. Click on "Update," and it tells me I have to update iTunes. OK, fine, go do that. Computer reboots.
Take 2. Click on update, it downloads the nearly 700MB iTunes update, and makes a backup.
And then crashes, opening an Apple KB article that tells me I have to update iTunes in order to install the update. Er... I already did that?
I'll just uninstall iTunes and ... oh, wait, you can't do that on Mac OS X. You have to follow some magic instructions that involve deleting kernel extensions and rebooting three times. I'll have to look that up and ... oh, hey, Apple's support site now 503s.
Awesome.
Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone. I'll just pop out the battery to reboot it, and ... oh, crap. That's right, the Apple official way to restart a crashed iDevice is to let the battery drain. I'd link to the article, but their support site is down.
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Would iT help iF iSaid iSorry?
which is totally what she said
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Or like any other Major Operating System Update release.
Heck I remember Slashodot use to post every freaking Linux Kernel update. At least this is just a major version update.
It is not like the mercedes SUV's entertainment/nav system. Because of the number of people who use these devices. Not just a select few.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
do they count as part of data pack? roaming? It's would suck to have to pay $19.96/MB for a auto update.
Anyone got a link to what iOS 5 offers from a mDM perspective? Glanced at the page and didn't find much. Google returns a few blog posts on the beta and talks about S/MIME support in e-mail.
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I don't see iOS becoming too much closer to Android for one big reason: Google offers adb install for free, while Apple charges $99 per year for the privilege.
Really, in a year my iPhone will be all laggy, slow and unintuitive as an Android phone? Guess I'll have to switch to something better by then.
You can talk like Android is bad ass, but anyone who's used both knows your just being a fanboy. Its one thing to prefer one over the other, but when you go off and do things like this everyone knows your nothing more than a mouthy fanboy and you get blown off by everyone except other rabid fanboys.
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As an antidisestablishmenterianist Apple iPologist, I actually agree with you. On one hand, I think the features in iOS5 are pretty impressive. While it is unavailable for the 3G I currently have, and will be pre-installed on the 4S that I will soon have, the news is moot to me. But even if I had a 4, there is plenty of general media and tech blog coverage, let alone the PR coming straight from Apple itself that you'd have to be living under a rock to not know about iOS5 already. Especially if you are the type to read slashdot.
Not so simple as said in the summary, it requires first updating iTunes to 10.5
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Wow, Siri's speech-to-text is horrible!!
It appears to be iRequired. Also a bit iAnnoying.
However, I would need to install iOS 5 on an iPhone 3G to really be able to perfectly reproduce the lag and latency that Android users have today.
iOS 4 runs so craptastically on my 3G that it probably shouldn't have been available for that phone in the first place. There was absolutely no surprise whatsoever that it is only available on the 3GS and better.
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What kind of technology website keeps people up-to-date on technology!? Inconceivable!
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Nothing official yet:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/resources/
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Yesterday it was iTunes 10.5, the first 4Ss are delivered and Siri hits the servers back home, now iOS 5 is delivered to millions of iPhones, iPod touches and iPads, OS X 10.7.2 (with iCloud support) is going out right now (all 800 MB of it), an iPhoto update for iCloud, iCloud itself is going online which means the first real traffic for their brandnew datacenters...
If you can joke and sneer about that right now you have never been part of a big critical software rollout. If they can pull through this they certainly did more right than wrong. Very different than RIM who seem to be melting away right now.
Seriously, how do Android fans accept the cognitive dissonance that allows them to complain about anything on the iPhone that requires jailbreaking while ignoring that just to backup an Android phone requires rooting? Which is not only often far more complicated than jailbreaking, but is almost never the same process between any two Android phones, risks voiding your warranty, and loses you certain capabilities like being able to watch movies from the Android Market?
iOS5 is compatible only with these models:
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
iPod touch 3rd generation
iPod touch 4th generation
iPad
iPad 2
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Be ready for your windows update Tuesday of next week. A new update for you T-Mobile Android users will be out tomorrow There is a rumor that Ubuntu will have an update ready on Thursday > Really? I hope it's Gingerbread for my T-Mobile Vibrant.
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Go back to iTunes and try to update the iPad2. No: it says I have to have the latest version of iTunes. Check the version and indeed I'm running an old version. No idea why it downloaded 65MB of iTunes before, but fine, hit software update again. "Your software is up to date". Um, no, it's clearly not. Sigh.
Digging a bit, it appears that I now have two versions of iTunes on my system, but the iPad is really attached to the 10.2 version and will launch that one instead of 10.5. Fine, kill 10.2, launch 10.5, hit the update button
"There are purchased items on the iPad that have not been transferred..." Ok, sync the iPad to the new version of iTunes, hit update again. "There are purchased items..." Screw it, update anyway. Cross your fingers now
I know, I know, I'm sure the Apple folks will come out of the woodwork to point out all the stupid things I've done here, but I have to laugh at "It just works".
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What, you think there won't be an article when Android ICS comes out? That's the equivalent....
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Usually only if you do all the *other* updates along with iTunes. I know when I went to update iTunes ~15mins ago so I could update my phone to 5 it prompted me for the update. When Software Update came up it told me "you must restart your computer after the updates are installed". I clicked "Show Details" and unchecked the various other updates it wanted to do, including an HP printer update, a Lion recovery update, and the OSX Server update (which was what needed the reboot). Viola, iTunes updated without rebooting!
"goodbye and hello, as always" ~Prince Corwin, from Zelazny's Amber series
Might not be your specific issue but if you've installed any of the jailbreak tools, your hosts file might have been modified so that the update won't validate against Apple's server.
Fixing your hosts file is left as an exercise for the reader – obviously if you play the jailbreak game you're savvy enough to repair the hosts file.
In iTunes make sure to select "encrypt backups" before your backup, that way a restore will also restore encrypted items like your email passwords.
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Yeah, it does that. I got around it by taking screenshots of where everything was before I did the update.
Summation 2
Well, at least now I know what's going on:
Apple's iOS 5 upgrade servers are slammed, causing 3200 or "internal error" update issues
Here's the problem with that - if you look at the screenshot in the article, that's the only information you're given. The "3200 error" only appears briefly when you press "More Information" and only in the URL of the link it sends you to.
Thankfully the servers are swamped enough that it took long enough to redirect (finally) for me to notice the error number and be able to search for it. Once it redirects, it sends you to a support article telling you that you need to reinstall iTunes (and make sure no other USB devices are installed, and that your computer is up to date, and that if you've done all that, you're screwed).
The problem was made worse by the support site 503ing briefly, because that meant that instead of the error showing up at all it instantly redirected you to a "site is unavailable" URL. (And, yes, it redirected, so the original URL was gone.)
About the only thing interesting in the Console (which is the log utility for Mac OS X - it's the equivalent of Gnome's "Log Viewer") is the error message "No connection wrapper thingy." Which is mildly amusing.
Oh, hey, it hard-crashed my phone.
OK, so it hadn't, it was just in the middle of rebooting (or something) - which left the screen frozen with a clock several minutes out of date for some reason. And I've yet to get it to repeat that, so, whatever. And it's nice to know how to restart an iPhone, now that Apple's support site is back up and it's possible to look it up again.
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Doing a system update without making sure the system can easily be backed up first is a major risk, Apple tries to put put users in normal situations that may result in data loss.
Now that anyone can back up to iCloud for free they feel OK about updating the system on the fly. If anything goes wrong, you just restore.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
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On my iPhone4, I'm seeing a major slowdown under IOS 5 - the new "home screen" has major lag as well - there are times I press the home key and my phone's home screen doesn't come back. I'll give this a while to settle in, but I'm not getting that "good upgrade feel" that I've had in the past..
1. Connect iPad to macbook ..Long update process, its 700MB after all... BANG! Your device coul not be restored, internal error occurred. .. bla bla bla all the iPad contents will be replaced by this macbook's library contents. VERY SCARY, but there is no other way as far as I see. Well... OK. .. and all my stuff is __GONE__ ! ..wait..wait..wait...wait.... FINALLY. DONE.
2. iTunes detects iOS 5 is available, I hit update button
3. WARNING! Unsynced items, I am going to delete all your precious apps, do you want to continue? Mind you, I won't offer an option in the dialog that says: "backup my stuff and then continue".
4. I click sync and the system detects that this is a new macbook: "Looks like this is a new, unauthorized device! If you proceed, all your iPad contents will be NUKED! haha!"
5. Cancel and look around for a while trying to find a way of doing the obvious thing.
6. Find the "transfer my stuff" option that warns that only authorized content will be transfered. Duh-huh.. OK.
7. Need to authorize my device, only 3 left. Geee... well, OK..
8. Everything but 4 items get transferred. Not pretty, but good enough.
9. Try to update now: warning about unsynced items persists. Scary, but I go on since step 7. doesn't improve even after trying several times in different ways.
10.
11. iPad library must be deleted because it can only be synced with one device at a time.
12. Update again...wait...wait...wait... yes, I want to use iCloud, yes I want to use localization, re-enter my apple ID, yes, yes yes a couple more times...
13.
14. Go to iTunes, explicitly tell it to sync applications, hit sync..
15. Only a few apps have been restored
16. Back to iTunes, manually check all applications that you want to have restored (why are most of them unchecked and not synced by default!?)
17. Sync..
18.
Conclusion: ARE YOU F****** KIDDING ME?
NOT pretty, VERY SCARY.
But in the end it worked (miraculously).
Seriously, why on earth would someone design a syncing process that makes it SO EASY to lose all your stuff? Why not a single step?
Let's hope that OTA updates take this nightmarish process away. We'll see.
I have an Android phone that was an official software upgrade orphan less than six months after it was introduced. IOS 5 supports hardware a couple years old.
No! I hate teh Apple and by arrogantly pouring scorn on teh Apple and its products, I try to convince myself and others that I am superior. This helps to suppress my deep feelings of inadequacy.
So the hate and bashing is necessary! It never gets tiring.
iTunes does not require a reboot! iTunes is an 87.9 MB download from software update. You can restart your phone by "pressing and holding the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least 10 seconds, until the Apple logo appears."
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I jailbroke my iPod with greenpoison the untethered jailbreak with customizable boot logos when 4.2.1 came out and decided not to update since. if they have a untethered jailbreak for 5.0 I may upgrade. but I have a iPod 3rd generation 32 gig model and there's no real new feature I'd want in 5.0 its more bloat for ipods anyhow
"The long and short of it is that the demand for iOS 5 is off the charts right now, so being patient is your best option. There’s nothing you can do on your end so have a cup of coffee and wait out the rush."
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/10/12/apples-ios-5-upgrade-servers-are-slammed-causing-3200-or-internal-error-update-issues/
Yes, you can. Until June.
Are you trolling? I don't think anything at all you've said in your posts is right?
1) A brand new full iTunes download is 103mb, not 700 as you claimed.
2) I've never ever had to do anything remotely like you claim about removing kernel extensions and rebooting 3 times with iTunes, and in the past month I have bounced forwards and backwards between several beta versions. (b8 -> b9 -> b7 -> 10.5 all worked flawlessly). Just download a new version of iTunes and the installer will upgrade it anyway.
3) I just dragged iTunes to the trash. OSX asked for my password. I entered it. It deleted.
4) If you're not comfortable with GUI instructions and are at all competent with a bash/csh commandline, just fire up terminal and using su or sudo delete to your heart's contact. kextstat / kextunload / kextload can be used to view, load, and unload kernel extensions, but I've only ever had to use those commands when I was developing one. sudo rm -fr /Applications/iTunes.app/ etc
5) Absolutely false what you claimed about Apple expecting a crashed iPhone to just drain off the battery.
I'm afraid I've only fed into your ego honey pot, but whatever...
Did you really have to ask?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Can I ask you a question? Why do you get worked up and insulting about what phones other people choose to use? I don't know if it's partly due to the Internet, but I'm getting so damn tired of everybody being so polarized about EVERYTHING. Politics...phone choice...etc. I'm not naive, I know that people have always (and will always) care -- violently! -- about dumb crap, but come on. Is it really worth it in the case of phones??
Well, I only saw other people using it this year. I ran some Google searches and there is an example of someone using it in 2001 though. Whatever, have to take the first post moments as they come.
which is totally what she said
The one thing I wish iCloud could offer -- ability to save and archive off app data, is missing.
Are you sure? From everything I have read iCloud lets you backup data for any app (the synchronization only happens with apps that specifically are built to work with iCloud, but just backing up data is easy).
Also as part of the activation process there is a "recover from iCloud backup" right by the option to recover the device from an iTunes backup.
If you go into Settings->iCloud->StorageAndBackup on the device you have the option to enable backup.
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No, I'll never discover it. Apple abandons old products, so my iPhone 3G will not allow me to "discover" anything like that.
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It's worse than that article makes it sound, because it contacts the upgrade servers multiple times. So far, the furthest I've gotten is:
"Extracting software..."
"Verifying with iPhone update with Apple..."
"Restoring update..."
"Verifying with iPhone update with Apple..."
And then it bombs. Both bolded lines are a chance for it to fail, after which you get to do the entire thing (minus the download) over again from the start. Which includes a backup which takes forever.
You'd think downloading the update would be enough to install, but - NOPE! Gotta get that DRM in there too. Otherwise, people might run custom software on Apple's phone.
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Congrats, you've just unwittingly proven the parent's case.
iOS5
There's no step 19!
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iPhone 3GS will be free (with contract) when the iPhone 4S releases, at least in the US. If you're cost-conscious, and have an original iPhone or iPhone 3G, you can upgrade your device (and then the iOS version) for the cost of renewing your contract with your current carrier. OR, you can consider upgrading to an iPhone 4 for $99 or $199, or go right to the latest & greatest and get yourself an iPhone 4S for $199-399.
Considering you can upgrade to a better, free phone if you're on an outdated phone, I don't see much cause for concern - you can backup your original/3G, restore your data to the 3GS/4/4S that you purchase, and be off and running with iOS 5 in pretty short order.
Actually, the site was pretty much the same 10 years ago.
Awesome update; everything is running much snappier! And I haven't even installed it yet!!
Great job Apple!
"free with contract" is what, $2400 for a phone?
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Big fucking deal. With new hardware coming out every year, do you really expect your device to be upgradeable to the latest and greatest software for life? Get real.
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That must really chafe your neckbeard. That Apple was the one to sweep in, in the wake of Microsoft's steady decline. That they have been the ones to really bring open source to the mainstream with a mixture of OSS and closed source code rather than this finally being the "year of Linux on the desktop".
They went and did what Linux was trying to do all along, and like a hipster standing at the side of the stage trying desperately not to look like you like anything mainstream, or proclaiming to anyone who you can grab onto to as they pass to get to the bar "I liked this before it was cool!" you're struggling to define yourself by what other people like.
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WAAAHHH... the vendor won't support my 3 year old smartphone with the latest OS upgrades anymore!
Try getting OS upgrades for some Android and BlackBerry phones that are only 2 years old, even IF the vendor has released one, there's a good chance the carrier won't. At least they're still supporting the 3GS which is now two generations behind.
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One of the reason Apple users actually update software unlike many windows users, is because updates are optional and only done when you say it's OK to proceed.
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3GS is current generation. They are selling them new, direct from Apple today.
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That must suck if your contract doesn't give you any inclusive calls, texts or data, and all of the money you pay actually goes as subsidy for the handset
A weather forecast may at most affect a small area compared to vast size of the Earth. I would surmise that a good percentage of slashdotters have an iPhone so your analogy is not apt.
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I don't remember anyone paying attention to Apple 10 years ago. If anything it was dismissed out of hand. Only since Apple became a mainstream success has the vitriol flowed so freely. It hints at deep-seated geek insecurities in my opinion. There's a lot of lip service to computing for the masses but only if it means converting those masses to the "geek way", anything but that is met with extreme hostility.
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You aren't using it properly you siri iriot!
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quick everybody go grab it, whether you have an "iDevice" or not.
I'll just link to...
http://www.stemkoski.com/simple-iphone-emulator-for-windows/
and pretend anyone cares.
If I were you, I would just jailbreak your 3G. Most of the iOS 5 features have already been around for jailbroken iOS devices forever anyways.
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I must pay them that regardless of the other terms. So the cost is that which I agree to pay, $2400 or so.
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You mean like copy-n-paste that doesn't just lets you copy from editable text fields? First to publish useless implementation wins?
Fandroids hate facts.
Alright, there are boat loads of fail in this post, so I am going to try to be nice and help you out.
>1. Connect iPad to macbook
>2. iTunes detects iOS 5 is available, I hit update button
1. You should have synced your iPad to the original computer it was setup on through iTunes first or back up that iTunes library that the iPad was activated on, then try to sync the iPad.
>3. WARNING! Unsynced items, I am going to delete all your precious apps, do you want to continue? Mind you, I won't offer an option in the dialog that says: "backup my stuff and then continue".
2. See my first step.
>4. I click sync and the system detects that this is a new macbook: "Looks like this is a new, unauthorized device! If you proceed, all your iPad contents will be NUKED! haha!"
3. New MacBook huh? Well, it probably does not have your old iTunes library on it (you know, the one you synced your iPad to when you first brought the iPad home). This tells me you probably didn't even authorize the new mac book to your current iTunes account. Which, in case you missed it, you could have gone into iTunes on the new mac book, authorized it to your iTunes account, selected Store, then selected Check For Available Downloads. But I guess that is not very intuitive.
>5. Cancel and look around for a while trying to find a way of doing the obvious thing.
4. Could have been avoided if you made sure the iTunes library you synced the iPad with was the same one you had on your mac book.
>7. Need to authorize my device, only 3 left. Geee... well, OK..
5. Yup, see my point number 3.
>8. Everything but 4 items get transferred. Not pretty, but good enough.
>9. Try to update now: warning about unsynced items persists. Scary, but I go on since step 7. doesn't improve even after trying several times in different ways.
6. Again, this could have been avoided.
>10. ..Long update process, its 700MB after all... BANG! Your device coul not be restored, internal error occurred.
7. You are trying to update both iTunes and you iPad. Should have just updated iTunes first, then have done step 3 and then the iPad.
>11. iPad library must be deleted because it can only be synced with one device at a time. .. bla bla bla all the iPad contents will be replaced by this macbook's library contents. VERY SCARY, but there is no other way as far as I see. Well... OK.
8. Did I mention that it sounds like you had two different iTunes libraries at this time? Oh, well let me re-iterate; YOU HAD TWO DIFFERENT ITUNES LIBRARIES ON TWO DIFFERENT COMPUTERS!!!!
>12. Update again...wait...wait...wait... yes, I want to use iCloud, yes I want to use localization, re-enter my apple ID, yes, yes yes a couple more times... .. and all my stuff is __GONE__ !
>13.
9. Cool story bro. Now what did I say about trying to sync an iPad to two different iTunes libraries?
>14. Go to iTunes, explicitly tell it to sync applications, hit sync..
>15. Only a few apps have been restored
10. I am guessing those are the ones that where recent enough it checked the servers for and found them under your iTunes account. I guess you should check for updated items more often than just on your iPad. You know that place where things should be stored away from the mobile device so you are not screwed if your mobile device is stolen/damaged. You know, that mythical place called the iTunes library on your laptop/PC.
>16. Back to iTunes, manually check all applications that you want to have restored (why are most of them unchecked and not synced by default!?)
>17. Sync..
11. I don't know, maybe due to the smaller hard drives the mobile devices, apple actually wanted you to use your device rather than have it cluttered up with meaningless crap so they decided you where smart enough to figure out want you wanted on the device and that you would take care of that. You know; i
Yes, but you said 3G, not 3GS.
The 3GS supports iOS5 just fine - it's running beautifully on mine with no sluggishness (like the iOS4 debacle).
Is this an appropriate time to point out that I can easily make an independent back up my entire Android device on any computer able to read a micro SD card, in just a few minutes? Without worrying about having "TWO DIFFERENT ITUNES LIBRARIES ON TWO DIFFERENT COMPUTERS!!!!"
Or is this a more appropriate time to point out that I can easily upgrade my Android device without using a separate computer at all? Or that I can just sync the thing with Dropbox no matter I'm at?
All of this iTunes nonsense seems to be very silly, when the device in question has multiple GHz-ish cores, hundreds of megabytes of RAM, tens of gigabytes of storage, and multiple Internet connections. Why can't it just handle the upgrade by itself, like every other computer I've ever owned?
Even my router does better than that, with a mere fraction of the speed and capacity of a modern iDevice. (And before anyone tries to form an argument to justify this behavior, please realize that at their heart, they're all just little *nix boxes, and are capable of all the standard *nix tricks. And all of them are faster/better than my first Linux box was (which also didn't need any outside help to get things done)).
Kid-proof tablet..
As in 6 months from the time the phone hit the market, Anrdoid 2.2 came out and was never supported on the phone.
iOS 5 is supported on the 3GS, which was released over two years ago.
It's Apple. It just works. Right?
Sarcasm above of course. I hate people telling me how great Apple products are when all I've ever had with them is trouble. Thankfully the only 2 things I've bought for myself (and wife) in the last decade or so are iPods and I regret that purchase. Unfortunately on occassion at a different job I had to do things on a Mac. Only upside was dealing with a hard disk failure on an eBook taught me to stay the hell away from CrApple.
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Here's an idea: I'll join the long long queue of Apple fans who are eagerly trying to update OSX and iOS at the same time.
/. and complain about the update process being crap and slow while Apple's software update servers are still being crippled by demand. Of course I could just wait the few extra hours when there's less demand and have a far quicker and smoother iOS/OSX upgrade process, though that'd just be using common sense.
I'll then go onto
On an iPhone 4 with a ton of apps. After getting over the server overload (retrying a bunch of times), the upgrade proceeded very smoothly. All my apps and folders were perfectly restored. The new OS looks great!
You would also have to install several daemons to disable in Android eg. true multitasking, disallow widgets on the desktop and gridlock the icons in a 4x4 square. I mean the difference is hardly in the hardware, same (Samsung) components and all built in the some far-east factory. The OS however....
This text: "doing a manual backup of your iDevice" above links to a web page that has nothing to do with backing up any iDevice.
I've been running ios 12.1 for years - this "5" junk has to be way out of date.
cisco-2950-24>show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C2950 Software (C2950-I6Q4L2-M), Version 12.1(22)EA2, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2004 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Ive been using it now for a few hours on my ipad and the one thing that stands out is any fairly large webpage causes Safari to crash now. Have not bothered to analyze any further... Why bother. I have other tos I guess.. Hope they bother to fix it someday.
"Computers are a lot like Air Conditioners" "They both work great until you start opening Windows"
Stupid Mongorians!
You guys need to go have a gay orgy until they give it back.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
When you buy late in a product's lifecycle, expect the support to not last as long. The the last iPhone 3G update was 2 1/2 years after release, and it was three years until it couldn't handle the latest OS. Even the last buyers had a year until they were behind on the current OS.
I bought the Android phone two months after its release. Some months later it got an update to a version of Android that was released at the same time I bought the phone. It never received an update to the Android version released six months after the phone. It was behind when it hit the market, and it stayed behind.
Official Android support sucks in comparison to Apple.
At least it's part of the reason so many more Android apps are $0.00, because app developers don't feel they have to recover the recurring cost of the development environment so quickly. It's a $200 cost (a prepaid dumbphone and a one-time $25 Market registration fee) instead of $1,250.
Oh sure. Remember Taco's "No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame." on the release of the first iPod.