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Why Computer Voices Are Mostly Female

PolygamousRanchKid writes with an article exploring the question posed in the headline, which says that "One answer may lie in biology. Scientific studies have shown that people generally find women's voices more pleasing than men's. 'It's much easier to find a female voice that everyone likes than a male voice that everyone likes,' said Stanford University Professor Clifford Nass, author of 'The Man Who Lied to His Laptop: What Machines Teach Us About Human Relationships. 'It's a well-established phenomenon that the human brain is developed to like female voices.' One notable exception has been Germany, where BMW was forced to recall a female-voiced navigation system on its 5 Series cars in the late 1990s after being flooded with calls from German men saying they refused to take directions from a woman. An Apple spokeswoman declined to comment on why the company gave Siri a female voice in the U.S. Nor would she say why Siri speaks like a man in the UK, where iPhone 4S owners have swarmed online forums to request a female voice instead."

276 comments

  1. Hmmm, nope. by hedwards · · Score: 1

    The library around here had an autodialer that would remind folks about late materials and when books were available, they used a pleasant voice from a black gentleman. It had a James Earl Jones quality to it and was quite pleasant despite being relatively unsophistication in use. Meaning that the words were taken from samples so they wouldn't quite match up even if the grammar was correct.

    1. Re:Hmmm, nope. by nathan+s · · Score: 4, Informative

      From TFA:

      '"It's much easier to find a female voice that everyone likes than a male voice that everyone likes..."'

      It's not that there are no people who find male voices pleasant or prefer them in some circumstances. Just that _generally_ people prefer female voices. I certainly do.

    2. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about we just use James Earl Jones for everything? I think I'd be fine with that...

    3. Re:Hmmm, nope. by X3J11 · · Score: 1

      How about we just use James Earl Jones for everything? I think I'd be fine with that...

      Only if he does it as Darth Vader. That'd be sweet.

    4. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Morgan Freeman.

      Though the other day, I realized that I want John Noble to do more voice work, especially documentary narration. He has such a wonderful timber to his voice.

    5. Re:Hmmm, nope. by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Because it's not that hard to find somebody with a voice that most folks would like to hear. Which is a pretty serious problem with the hypothesis that it's hard to find male voices that everybody likes.

    6. Re:Hmmm, nope. by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Because Geoge Takei also has a really wonderful voice, not to mention that Leonard Nimoy isn't too bad either.

    7. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Following directions of the Sith may not be acceptable to those of the religious Jedi order.

    8. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 1

      JEJ would be better than MF. IMO he comes off as both soothing and authoritarian at the same time. Hmm... that could actually be a pretty dangerous combination, if it falls into the wrong hands!

    9. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Meaning that the words were taken from samples so they wouldn't quite match up even if the grammar was correct.

      The trick there. Is to hire Shatner for. The voice. acting. ThenNoOneWillKnowTheDifference.

    10. Re:Hmmm, nope. by EdZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Add to that list Morgan Freeman and Stephen Fry.

      And for emergency alerts, Brian Blessed.

    11. Re:Hmmm, nope. by schwit1 · · Score: 1

      Who is JEJ? I Googled it and got a zillion hits, but nothing obvious.

    12. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 1

      Umm... James Earl Jones, the topic of this sub-thread?

    13. Re:Hmmm, nope. by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Although I like Leonard Nimoy much better, I - have - noticed - a - similar - style - in - his - delivery.

    14. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 2

      DYIIIIIVE!!!!!

    15. Re:Hmmm, nope. by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Then frankly they're doin it wrong. Hell Morgan Freeman seems to narrate everything these days anyway so i bet a system based on his or James Earl Jones would be quite nice. of course being a geek i think a GPS based on the Shat would be cool although you wouldn't be setting any speed records with the thing "The turn...will be coming...up ahead" "WHAT...do you think you're doing? I said....to turn right....at the corner".

      That said all computer voices should be based on Majel Barrett- Roddenberry IMHO. She could be soothing authoritative OR sarcastic and still made the computers in ST sound cool.. That or the goddess of all things cute and adorable Alyson Hannigan.

      Personally I wouldn't give a shit if they made it sound like Roseanna Barr if they could just do something about that damned stammer. you know the one, where the voice goes up or down in the wrong spots? I have yet to hear an automated system where they have that completely licked.

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    16. Re:Hmmm, nope. by pwizard2 · · Score: 1

      I'd personally love to have a GPS that sounds like HK-47 from KOTOR && KOTOR II . Bonus points if it refers to the driver as "meatbag".

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    17. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm, nope. One anecdote does not research make.

    18. Re:Hmmm, nope. by macraig · · Score: 1

      Whatcha gonna do when he kicks it? I guess you'd better sit him down right now every day for six months and have him vocalize every word in the Oxford dictionary, before it's too late!

    19. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we just use James Earl Jones for everything? I think I'd be fine with that...

      Or Morgan Freeman.

    20. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Just+Brew+It! · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a plan to me! Or at least enough of the OED that given enough time and computing power we can analyze his speech patterns and come up with a credible synthetic facsimile... :D

    21. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Vecanti · · Score: 2

      Who is JEJ? I Googled it and got a zillion hits, but nothing obvious.

      JEJ? The voice of "Darth Vader".

      Oh yes. Very soothing!

      But hey, maybe that works for a library.

      Patron:"I swear! I'll pay my late fees by the end of the week!"
      Automated Voice:"I hope so for your sake, the Head Librarian is not as forgiving as I am."

      Reminds me of Conan the Librarian. :)

    22. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      That could be interesting, though I imagine every trip starting with "let's go make some LSD!"

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    23. Re:Hmmm, nope. by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Having not seen the technology, my guess is that they basically took an existing Open project and used existing voices with it (which take a very, very long time to make 'good'). The result was that they picked the better voices for the region/dialect. For instance, some of the better Festival voices are free-to-use and are either British women or British men. The US voices are not nearly as full or vibrant, for whatever reason.

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    24. Re:Hmmm, nope. by klui · · Score: 1

      I like Stacy Keach myself since he's done quite a few PBS documentaries.

      I think it's interesting the original Star Trek series used a woman's voice for the majority of the computer voices but most, if not all the bad computer voices were male voices. The M5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ultimate_Computer and ISS Enterprise's computer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror,_Mirror_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series) being ones I can quickly think of.

    25. Re:Hmmm, nope. by macraig · · Score: 1

      You guys are all overlooking John Goodman, too. If it's voice for GPS, why not Mister Convoy himself, Kris Kristofferson?

    26. Re:Hmmm, nope. by mlong · · Score: 1

      I would gladly pay for a nav system if James Earl Jones was giving me directions

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    27. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Chardansearavitriol · · Score: 1

      We should get Patrick Stewart to do it. I dont know about you, but when Patrick Stewart tells me to take this amulet halfway across the country to give it to some guy who wont be happy that I have it, I *did it.* Didnt think twice about it.

    28. Re:Hmmm, nope. by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      And it's not like he would have known if you hadn't done it either...because he died...well The Emperor died, and it was Boromir you delivered the amulet to.

      Also if Liam Neeson was my dad, and then left our home...I would travel across a post-apocalyptic wasteland to find him. Just to hear him tell my I was a good kid for defusing a nuclear bomb, saving a town from firebreating ants, saving a small band of good-guy mercenary mappers, saving a town from Super Mutants, and breaking my legs and irradiating myself....for Science!

      But as was said by someone else, all computers should sound like Majel Barrett Roddenberry.

    29. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Xphile101361 · · Score: 1

      While I would agree... after playing Civ IV I have to vote to Leonard Nimoy instead.

    30. Re:Hmmm, nope. by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I suspect there's already way more of his voice recorded than you would need for that.

      Have you heard the Roger Ebert synthesized voice? (I still don't know why he doesn't use it on his new show.) Yes, it sounds like Roger mixed with a robot voice. But IMHO, it sounds like maybe 60% Roger, 40% robot.

    31. Re:Hmmm, nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find it now, but there is a paper online about how after puberty and before finding a stable relationship males greatly prefer to deal with females even it they are not sexually compatible. They thought it was based on a deep instinctual urge to compete for mates.

  2. Opposite Sex by Grindalf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Surely most people prefer to listen to the opposite sex, provided they do not suffer from sexual identity disorder or a similar crippling condition ...

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    1. Re:Opposite Sex by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Surely most people prefer to listen to the opposite sex, provided they do not suffer from sexual identity disorder or a similar crippling condition ...

      I assume then that being British counts as a similar crippling condition?

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    2. Re:Opposite Sex by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Informative

      Surely most people prefer to listen to the opposite sex,

      Actually, no. Research has shown better response to female voices by both men and women.

    3. Re:Opposite Sex by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Surely most people prefer to listen to the opposite sex, provided they do not suffer from sexual identity disorder or a similar crippling condition ...

      I'm guessing it's the same phenomenon as with magazines. The manly magazines are full of highly attractive women. The womanly magazines are also full of highly attractive women. Men like talking to a woman. Women like talking to another woman. It probably goes all the way back to our cavemen days where women were chatting at camp or out gathering, while the men were more rivals and out hunting pray, which obviously leads to less talking. So most everyone feels better talking to a woman, except when taking directions on where to drive. Which some say can also be traced back to our cavemen days...

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    4. Re:Opposite Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume then that being British counts as a similar crippling condition?

      With the opposite sex, yes.

    5. Re:Opposite Sex by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's because men are horny and women are gossipy.

    6. Re:Opposite Sex by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Unless they're from Scotland, then it's with the sheep as well...

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    7. Re:Opposite Sex by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Surely? Is it possible that you don't understand that women experience a lot of ups and downs, due to hormonal changes? While women MIGHT prefer a male voice SOMETIMES, there are other times that she might prefer that men don't exist. And, no, pregnancy and menstrual cycles are NOT considered to be crippling conditions. Menopause might be considered as such, but don't let my wife know that I said that!

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    8. Re:Opposite Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know, "Bro's before ho's" isn't exactly a new thing.

    9. Re:Opposite Sex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Uh, it's more like: Men like talking to women and women like one-upping each other. Seriously, women can be flat out evil to each other. It's a competition to them. That's why if you're already with a woman it makes you a lot more attractive to other women, they see it as a challenge.

      In that way women like to look at other beautiful women in order to see what they need to do to beat them (or at least compete at the same level) and win the game.

    10. Re:Opposite Sex by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Or maybe this is a reverse Monty Python drag skit in the making?

    11. Re:Opposite Sex by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      I saw a video online recently about a upcoming iPad app that uses a voice to interact with the user. Based on the name the user gives during setup, the app responds to female users with a female voice, and responds to male users with the same female voice... flirting like a horny spokesmodel on a late-night-TV phone-sex advert. Like that episode Star Trek where the [i]Enterprise[/i] computer has been overhauled by the women of planet Estrogen-5 (or whatever) and starts flirting with every crewmember who isn't wearing a miniskirt. But without the excuse of it being done in the 1960s. Now, I'm sure there are plenty of juvenile hetero men out there who would love this kind of half-century throwback, but I just found it annoying, to the point that I didn't even finish watching the demo, and I sure as hell won't bother looking at the app when it comes out.

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    12. Re:Opposite Sex by Riceballsan · · Score: 1

      Hardly a relevant statement. When it is in reference to long-term friends vs a girl you just met, that is where the bro's before ho's comes into play. If you are thinking which you would rather look at or listen to when neither has a history, if a male chooses bro over ho, that would imply homosexuality.

    13. Re:Opposite Sex by White+Flame · · Score: 1

      Maternal trust & comfort seems a more like culprit than sexual attraction.

    14. Re:Opposite Sex by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      Surely most people prefer to listen to the opposite sex, provided they do not suffer from sexual identity disorder or a similar crippling condition ...

      Sexual identity disorder? Crippling condition? ... holy fuck.

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  3. NYC Subway by sharph · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One day I had the interesting observation on the New York Subway that the recorded voices with informational statements were female, and the statements asking the passenger to do something ("Please stand clear of the door") were all male.

    1. Re:NYC Subway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Stand clear of the closing doors, please!" The guy's voice seems unnecessarily enthusiastic about the whole thing.

    2. Re:NYC Subway by RCL · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In Moscow subway, if your train is getting closer to city center, you hear male voice ("boss hurries you to work"), and if you are travelling in opposite direction, there's a female announcer ("wife calls you home") - they switch half-way for most trains. Male-oriented hint, but still.

    3. Re:NYC Subway by Tapewolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In Wales, the English rail announcements are female and the Welsh versions are male.

    4. Re:NYC Subway by _xeno_ · · Score: 2

      In Boston, they just use one male voice for everything. Although I guess it makes sense, due to things like the following being common:

      (leaving Porter Square): Next stop, Harvard Square.
      (arriving at Harvard Square): Now arriving at Harvard Square.
      (leaving Harvard Square): Next stop, Harvard Square.
      (arriving at Central Square): Now arriving at Harvard Square.
      (leaving Central Square): Next stop, Harvard Square.
      (And so on)

      I've also heard it do the stations backwards, giving the next stop as the stop in the other direction.

      I guess if the system is going to constantly be broken, using a male voice makes sense. I guess people expect female voices to know what they're talking about, but are used to running into men that continue to give bad information even after it's clear that what they're saying can't possibly be correct. :)

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    5. Re:NYC Subway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scent of urine is unisex.

    6. Re:NYC Subway by digitig · · Score: 4, Funny

      He was probably the only person they could find who spoke Welsh.

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    7. Re:NYC Subway by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Must be hard to know when to get off when they announce all stops as Harvard Square.

      Or maybe that's why Charlie never returned.

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    8. Re:NYC Subway by TheGavster · · Score: 1

      My experience in NYC was that the "stand clear of the doors" message was live audio, getting progressively angrier as people failed to get out of the doors? That may have been a Metro North train though; I took a lot of trains that trip.

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    9. Re:NYC Subway by Slur · · Score: 1

      I believe the MBTA matter-of-fact male voice is also synthetic.

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    10. Re:NYC Subway by rvw · · Score: 2

      One day I had the interesting observation on the New York Subway that the recorded voices with informational statements were female, and the statements asking the passenger to do something ("Please stand clear of the door") were all male.

      In Barcelona they did this 20 years ago already. A female voice said: "Proxima estacion", and a male one said: "Catalunya". I found it very entertaining then.

    11. Re:NYC Subway by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      A male figure is more authoritative. When making a public announcement, you want to insure directions will be followed as a demand and not simple taken as an informative statement.

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    12. Re:NYC Subway by Tarmas · · Score: 0, Redundant
      In Soviet Moscow:

      boss hurries you to work

      Work hurries your boss.
      &

      wife calls you home

      Home calls your wife.

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    13. Re:NYC Subway by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      In Miami, they used to just let the drivers make the announcements: "muah mah me meraoh buah muah muah muah."

    14. Re:NYC Subway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      In Wales, the English rail announcements are female and the Welsh versions are male.

      And this is probably a good thing, as it makes them very distinct. If Welsh and English were both announced in the same voice, then it would probably be a lot more confusing.

      I do wonder if it would be slightly better the other way around, though. The male voice is slightly harder to hear above the background noise, for me. Then again, I think that this is an admission by Arriva Trains Wales (who manage most of the train stations in Wales) that the English announcements are more important, which I believe goes against the recommendations by the Welsh Assembly (IIRC it's something like Welsh and English should be of equal importance) . Which is possibly why the Welsh annoucement always comes first...

    15. Re:NYC Subway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. I find it impressive that you use slashdot as a forum for male-bashing. :D

    16. Re:NYC Subway by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      Here in Ottawa, Canada, the disembodied voice from above is a male. But I still find it very entertaining that they feel the need to say it in both English and French, even though most proper names don't translate, and the only thing that ever gets announced is the next stop....

    17. Re:NYC Subway by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      I had no idea that Frank Oglesby was an android.

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    18. Re:NYC Subway by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      That's probably because, as a stereotype, women nurture aggressively, while men are known to nurture with aggression (to put it simply).

      When women try to be 'aggressive' it tends to just come out as bitchiness, them being a banshee/battleaxe, etc.

      My wife is very demure in her assertions. It's both a blessing and a curse, but the result is that she's actually quite successful in communication. If a male were to take her approach, he'd be disregarded as ineffective or unassertive.

      I'm sure a lot of it has to do with upbringing.

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    19. Re:NYC Subway by Idarubicin · · Score: 2

      In Barcelona they did this 20 years ago already. A female voice said: "Proxima estacion", and a male one said: "Catalunya". I found it very entertaining then.

      This is actually an excellent feature--I noticed it when I was in Barcelona a few years ago, and I would be thrilled to see more cities adopt it. Making the name of the station audibly distinct is an excellent cue for listeners in the often-loud subway with its muffled, broken, or distorted public address systems. As an added bonus, subway riders who don't speak Catalan or Spanish get the important information - the station name - clearly set off from the surrounding announcement.

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    20. Re:NYC Subway by grcumb · · Score: 4, Funny

      He was probably the only person they could find who spoke Welsh.

      Actually, it's Dylan Thomas. If anyone actually spoke Welsh, they'd realise that he's saying, 'I sing to you now of the pretty milk town down the dingle where a milk maid coos to her swain. By the time we arrive her heart will have lofted like a swan, leaving the lost little lad consumed and forgotten as the lilac by the goat. Mind the gap.'

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    21. Re:NYC Subway by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      As I recall they only made announcements in Catalan - hence "estaciÃ". Have they added castellano recently to cater to tourists?

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    22. Re:NYC Subway by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1

      stupid slashdot - "estacio"

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    23. Re:NYC Subway by Almandine · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it's live, depending on the particular train. The probability of a live voice on an older train is high, particular when the voice starts cursing.

    24. Re:NYC Subway by rvw · · Score: 1

      stupid slashdot - "estacio"

      Could be. What I remember is probably from the song "Proxima estacion: Esperanza", by Manu Chao...

  4. It's the Majel Barrett effect by multisync · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Female computer voice: Star Trek
    Male computer voice = HAL 9000

    Nothing good ever came from a male computer.

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    1. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      A computer with a female voice did also order death by snoo snoo. I can't think of a more pleasant way to die.

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    2. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

      On the one hand, the female computer voice could at any moment turn into Lwaxana Troi.

      On the other hand, it turns out Babylon 5's computer seems to have the same problem.

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    3. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      On the one hand, the female computer voice could at any moment turn into Lwaxana Troi.

      But you could always think about Nurse Chapel if you prefere more pleasant thoughts...

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    4. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by wootest · · Score: 2

      GLaDOS.

    5. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      That was a fembot, not a femputer!

    6. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      Red Dwarf had both male and female computers and both were just as hilarious

    7. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by ameline · · Score: 1

      GLaDOS begs to differ. And if you argue, perhaps a little neurotoxin and a few sentry-bots will persuade you. :-)

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    8. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTg00wIijNY

    9. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Female computer voices also include SHODAN, GladOS, and basically all vocalized self-destruct countdowns... Can't trust 'em.

    10. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by vlm · · Score: 1

      Andromeda TV series? Why can't Siri look like that?

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    11. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by moniker127 · · Score: 1

      You can't understand how hard it is, growing up as a manbot pretending to be a manputer in a fembot's femputer's world!

    12. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by migla · · Score: 0

      You can't understand how hard it is, growing up as a manbot pretending to be a manputer in a fembot's femputer's world!

      Maybe I'm missing some references in my head or maybe your being a bit nonsensical. Either way, it amuses me.

      What is the relationship between a bot and a puter? It seems a puter is the way to be, but then the whole world is a bots world... I get confused.

      In the real world man is of course generally the norm and woman is the deviation, as with robots/fembots, for example. One doesn't often hear about manbots and manputers and mens hockey and so on.

      The relevancy of my sig to your comment compelled me to reply. It's a great read about the geeky mans world of gaming and how it would be for a woman to fit in there: http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/22786_To_My_Someday_Daughter.html

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    13. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But she was driven to it by a manputer!

    14. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      And after you've owned the futuristic iPhone for two seasons, it inexplicably turns into two tin-cans and a string??? No thanks....

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    15. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wheatley was even worse.

    16. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      Turrets.

      Turrets are for persuading, sentries are for sappin'

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    17. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      I prefer her as Number One.

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    18. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be Nana Visitor?

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    19. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by DarkXale · · Score: 1
    20. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ladyboys of nana plaza are quite something so you must be right.

    21. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by dissy · · Score: 1

      It's a quote from Futurama "Amazon Women in the Mood" in season 3.

      Here is the clip, the exact quote about 40 sec in
      http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=167541&title=fembot

      I must say however I much preferred reading the article you linked to.
      Thank you for that!

    22. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by GIL_Dude · · Score: 3, Informative

      No, he is talking about Majel Barret playing Number One in "The Cage" - the original Start Trek pilot with Captain Pike; the one that was later made into "The Menagerie" where Spock was court martial-ed for returning Pike to Talos IV after his severe radiation burns rendered him wheel chair bound. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059753/

    23. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be technically correct, the best kind of correct, it was a fembot pretending to be a femputer.

    24. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      You can usually trust the self-destruct countdown. Well, except for the one in Spaceballs.

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    25. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by bigdogpete · · Score: 1

      I had the same first thought. Then I thought about it.
      VIKI = BAD
      JARVIS = Good

      EDI = Bad then Good
      Master Control Program = Bad

      Just to give a few examples.

    26. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      good one !!

    27. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Reservoir+Penguin · · Score: 1
      I noticed spaceship self-destruct systems always announce impending doom with a female voice.

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    28. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

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    29. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      System Shock 2 had SHODAN (female voice) and Xerxes (male voice), both were insane though for different reasons.

    30. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Talderas · · Score: 1

      When it's done by a female sounding computer. Remember that Wheatley's countdown got screwed up.

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    31. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Machtyn · · Score: 1

      But her female voice was what made the whole thing just a bit off. If it was a male voice, we'd be consciously suspicious from the very beginning, not just sub-consciously suspicious. Then again, I may have no idea what I'm talking about.

    32. Re:It's the Majel Barrett effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GLaDOS makes HAL9000 look like a harmless GameBoy, and she is a female.

      Checkmate.

  5. Re: Female computer voices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So this is why Holly got replaced by Hilly?

  6. Siri by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So US Siri is a secretary and UK Siri is a gentleman's gentleman ?

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    1. Re:Siri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UK Siri, like many men there, prefers to be called a confirmed bachelor.

    2. Re:Siri by qubezz · · Score: 1

      Apparently the UK version with a male voice thinks it's a MI6 officer.

  7. Clearly! by Dyinobal · · Score: 1

    Clearly they have never heard Morgan Freeman.

  8. German men by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 0

    "German men saying they refused to take directions from a woman."

    Don't forget the Austrian accent!

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    1. Re:German men by g4b · · Score: 1

      which one?

    2. Re:German men by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      In the US, we only recognize ONE austrian accent. And only a few phrases, at that: "It's not a tumor, Vote for me if you want to live" "I'll be back a la vista," and "Ha, ha, ha. You have strucked Hercules."

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    3. Re:German men by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      The one that the people speaking that little known Austrian language have, duh.

    4. Re:German men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Austrians as one of the kingdoms at the unification of German kindgoms not integrated into Germany, speaks also German, but has three main very distinct accent groups, one of them also spoken by south german Bavarians.

    5. Re:German men by PPH · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:German men by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

      You know what happened last time germans listened to an austrian?

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  9. Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    A toggle switch.

    In the BMW it could be a real physical toggle somewhere, but an OS setting would work as well. In Apple's case they need to relax a little, pull the stick out, and let the people toggle which voice they want, even MS allows that on their voice related functions.

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    1. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Nah.

      When they really want to pretend some actual intelligence/personality, they should make the voice (and perhaps avatar) randomized, seeded with the phones serial number.

      (remember where you read that first!)

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    2. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      Wow, you mean you can't change the voice? You've been able to switch it on Apple Talk since almost its inception. Siri seems to use the "Viki" Apple Talk voice. I assumed that it was just a default setting. "Viki" is a logical default as it's a more advanced version of the old "Victoria", and arguably the most natural sounding Apple Talk voice. It's ridiculous if they don't let you change it, even if it's a memory issue you could still switch the voice when you sync the phone.

      But then, it is Apple "Selling You What You Could Buy Yesterday, Tomorrow!": 'Customizable' voices will probably be an iPhone 5 selling point.

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    3. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by pecosdave · · Score: 0

      The article was written as though it were carved in stone. As for me I haven't used an iPhone since the 3G, after that better phones existed.

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    4. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing William Daniels whom voiced for KITT (Knight Rider) is out of the question?

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    5. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      "Viki" is a logical default as it's a more advanced version of the old "Victoria", and arguably the most natural sounding Apple Talk voice.

      Even though Vicki sounds a bit more natural, Victoria is still easier to understand; but Alex beats all other voices in clarity, by far!

    6. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      In Apple's case they need to relax a little, pull the stick out, and let the people toggle which voice they want, even MS allows that on their voice related functions.

      Now that Steve is dead, in a few years, out of respect for his memory, they just might allow something like that - if it were tastefully done.

    7. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by pecosdave · · Score: 0

      By Golly! More evidence to support my theory! It's like I can predict which of my post are going to get modded down.

      Hint:
      They're about Apple and it's not about lapping up the Kool-Aid while proclaiming how great it taste.

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    8. Re:Solution to BMW and Apple's issues: by Skater · · Score: 1

      My brother has a KITT-voiced GPS unit. I think it was made by Garmin.

  10. Why no choice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My question is, why aren't users simply given a choice? If they've put the effort into making both voice sets, let the user choose which one they prefer. Then again, this is Apple we're talking about.

    1. Re:Why no choice? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Giving the user a choice would imply that they know better than Apple does about what is best.

      Apple's entire business model is founded on the operational assumption that they know better than the customer. Their present success is founded on the fact that they are quite often correct about this....

  11. Female voices are easier to understand (?) by sigxcpu · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the army there is a known fact/myth that female voices are easier to understand on noisy radio links.
    Something to do white the a different/better frequency spread than a male voice.
    In my not very scientific experience, it seems to be true.

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    1. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      That is my thought as well, male voices are usually deeper and lower frequencies do not carry as well or as clearly as higher ones. For example my wife has some trouble hearing me in the car as it drones down the freeway.

    2. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by migla · · Score: 1

      I've also heard that both birds and human babies learn better from a voice more like a womans that that of a mans. Men can of course make their voice be more like that when talking to those, so it's not such a big deal.

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    3. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by fast+turtle · · Score: 1

      That's based upon normal hearing frequency loss as men get older or suffer hearing damage due to low frequency sounds - eg: Explosions, gun fire, AA and such.

      In my case, I'd love to have Michael Dorn (Worf) or Nichele Nichols (Uhura) for my TTS needs. Dorn's voice is instantly recognizable and he's got great pronounciation while I just love Uhura's "Hailing Frequencies Open, Captain."

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    4. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by stjobe · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the army, but Bitching Betty is usually a woman.

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    5. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by realityimpaired · · Score: 3

      Obligatory comment: I was in signals in the army for 4 years.

      Female voices *are* easier to understand than male voices over the radio. And some males sound female on the radio.

      *BUT*, female voices and male voices aren't significantly different from each other in pitch. Women are sometimes higher pitched, but on the whole, they're about the same pitch as male voices. The difference between the two is resonance... males tend to have larger lung capacity, and with that more space to resonate the lower frequencies in their voice, which is why their voice sounds lower pitched. This is why female voices sound higher pitched than males, and it's why some male-to-female transgenders are able to sound completely female by learning how to resonate their voice (hint: the ones who don't sound naturally female are the ones who adjust the pitch of their voice).

      It's that lack of resonance that I think explains why females are easier to understand on the radio, and also why some males sound female on the radio. The radio isn't a very good medium for transferring something like resonance, because it's a single point of sound at the output, and usually not a particularly high end speaker at that... as a result, female voices sound more natural over the radio, and males sound distorted. It's not that they're *actually* distorted, just that they don't sound quite like we expect them to sound, and it causes a cognitive dissonance.

    6. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      My experience is the opposite, but I think you're probably correct.

      I have a very hard time communicating with my wife on a bad cellular connection. She has a very high-pitched voice, relatively speaking. The higher tones get filtered out. Likewise, the bass in many male voices likely get filtered out, I'd imagine - or are too low for the use with generic headphones. Think: James Earl Jones audio books with crappy ear buds.

      I do think that the cadence of speech women use is probably more conductive for communication, as well. For instance, you can hear and understand what a female is saying from across a crowded room, but now what the guy she's speaking to is saying. The higher frequency travels as audible sound better.

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    7. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by evilviper · · Score: 1

      In the army there is a known fact/myth that female voices are easier to understand on noisy radio links.

      There's a corollary to this, though...

      http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1428081.htm

      The human brain processes male and female voices differently, so it actually takes more effort to comprehend what a female voice is saying.

      The place I notice this the most (other than the obvious) is with the news. There's no question, across the board, it's easier to comprehend 30 minutes of info-packed news reports from a male anchor than from a female, even with all else being equal (same show, different day). Obviously this would be a bit politically incorrect to talk about, and make decisions based upon.

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    8. Re:Female voices are easier to understand (?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Male-to-female transsexual here weighing in with corrections.

      Males have longer vocal cords (this is related to the Adam's apple's prominence), and that directly results in lowering of the pitch of the voice. Men factually do have a lower average pitch than women do. HOWEVER, that pitch range is usually not as high as people actually imagine that it is. It turns out that the actual pitch difference is really only about a half-octave. This means that the average vocal range used in speech by both sexes is covered by both sexes. A man can speak in the female pitch range, and a woman can speak in the male pitch range. There is no biological or anatomical obstacle to this.

      However, simply raising the pitch is not sufficient to sound feminine. Female voice varies pitch much more than the male voice does (this is called "sing-song"). Thus, men end up with an almost monotone voice, while women show a wider range of variation. So, if a person with a male-voice simply raises their pitch, they typically will only sound like a man speaking at a higher pitch, rather than as a female. So, male-to-female transsexuals have to train themselves to speak with the same sing-song voice that women do, as well as raise their pitch.

      This can be hard for some people to do, and as a result, the best voices typically come out of people who have singing experience and training. They can intuitively grasp the ideas of pitch, and variation, as well, they have experience and training in how to make their voice perform.

      Yes, male-to-female transsexuals are taught to resonate their voice differently from how they did before, this is in order to prevent lower-pitch sounds from picking up, and keeping the high-pitch resonating properly. If it was true that this was all about resonance, then speaking in a falsetto would provide the best radio-transmission-understanding, because a falsetto voice removes all resonance from the voice, which is why Monty Python's crew sound hilariously non-female when they pretend to be women. Women's voices have resonance, and a falsetto voice does not, thus even if the pitch is appropriate, and they're speaking sing-song, they still do not sound right.

      So, the male-to-female transsexual is tasked with learning to speak using a slightly higher pitch (if I had my tuning meter from voice training, I could tell you the exact shift that I had to make myself), then they have to learn to speak sing-song, and lastly they also have to learn how to do all of this with a modal voice by using resonance of the upper vocal tract rather than the lower vocal tract.

  12. Urban myth by bazmail · · Score: 1

    "where BMW was forced to recall a female-voiced navigation system on its 5 Series cars in the late 1990s after being flooded with calls from German men saying they refused to take directions from a woman"

    Urban myth that dovetails nocely with american stereotypical views of foreigners, Germans in particular.

    1. Re:Urban myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for clarifying... that was actually my first thought when I read about this.

      While the typical German BMW driver may be more macho and asshole than the rest of us, they all the same like to have the illusion of female company.

    2. Re:Urban myth by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      The self-check machines at the Kroger near me use a male voice if you choose Spanish, female if you choose English.

    3. Re:Urban myth by tibman · · Score: 2

      um, i just googled "bmw recall female voice" and got this: http://www.pbs.org/speak/ahead/technology/voiceinterface/

      It doesn't appear to be mythical.

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    4. Re:Urban myth by bhaak1 · · Score: 2

      You just linked to an article that cites the same guy that is also cited by TFA.

    5. Re:Urban myth by catmistake · · Score: 1

      I'm glad you pointed this out. I found the summary... well, frankly, offensive. Hardly any of the sexists I know are German, and I am certainly not! Its beginning to seem like one can't be hardly misogynistic these days without being accused of being German. We're sexist, not savages!

    6. Re:Urban myth by tibman · · Score: 1

      He worked on the BMW in question

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    7. Re:Urban myth by ArundelCastle · · Score: 1

      As other comments have pointed out, it doesn't seem to be a myth. I'm not sure how something that obscure can become urban or myth, honestly.
      http://www.pbs.org/speak/ahead/technology/voiceinterface/

      The truly foolish thing is believing that people DON'T have bias and prejudice. Regardless of their culture, people are people. Germany just happens to have a lot of men that take their pride in driving incredibly seriously, so it's an easy example to cite. But all the jokes I see on TV about Men-Getting-Lost and Women-Using-Maps are American men. Dating back to All In The Family.

    8. Re:Urban myth by mister_playboy · · Score: 1

      Urban myth that dovetails nocely with american stereotypical views of foreigners, Germans in particular.

      WalMart found their concept of "door greeters" didn't' go over well in Germany. This hardly means Germans are unfriendly, just that they have a different set of communication norms.

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  13. Mr T. Voice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Car navigation systems should all have Mr. T voice. I mean, who wouldn't listen to directions from him?

    "Turn a right fool!"
    "I pity the fool who doesn't do a u-turn here"

    On a serious note, pleasing != listening. Like many background music are soothing yet the more jarred/harsh sounds are much more attention seeking.

  14. German men saying they refused to take directions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    German men refused to take directions from a woman UNLESS they were getting spanked at the time.

    BMW simply found it more cost effective to change to a male voice, rather than go with the seat spanking technology the engineers had already developed for another application.

  15. Garmin already does this by Scareduck · · Score: 2

    Garmin allows you to pick from a number of different voices, with different regional accents and languages as well.

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    1. Re:Garmin already does this by Skreems · · Score: 1

      Weren't they the ones who released a Snoop Dogg branded voice navigation system?

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    2. Re:Garmin already does this by pecosdave · · Score: 2

      You forgot about Tom-Tom fool!

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    3. Re:Garmin already does this by digitig · · Score: 1

      Out of the box my satnav (not Garmin) offers a choice of male voice or female voice (extra voices available for a cost). I use the female voice because it's clearer against low-frequency background noise.

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    4. Re:Garmin already does this by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I want a female voice with a french accent. Like the french chick on the highlander series who was McCloud's friend. Damn that's a sexy voice.

    5. Re:Garmin already does this by Moridineas · · Score: 1

      That's an EXCELLENT reference, and I agree!

    6. Re:Garmin already does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TomTom were going to release a Jeremy Clarkson voice option. Sadly, due to contractural reasons, it got cancelled.

    7. Re:Garmin already does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not practical, but I always wanted Chewbacca for driving directions..

    8. Re:Garmin already does this by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that you didn't mean to write MacLeod?

    9. Re:Garmin already does this by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      The trouble is that Navigation systems have two very distinct narration types. One is a set of prerecorded sentences and words. Those are relatively inexpensive to make, and most celebrity navigation systems use this. For example all NavTones voices use this style.

      The other is true Text-to-speech. This system is a lot harder since it requires adjusting the incredible number of parameters to get a voice that sounds a close as possible. For things like celebrities it would also work best if any canned text were tweaked to match their style of speaking, but that is not hard, and in fact most multi-lingual systems like navigation will have the phases be included with the voice anyway, since the phases will differ by language.

      I have to believe that the cost of setting up new TTS voices must be really high, since Garmin offers relatively few of them. After all, if it only cost them $1000 for a voice, they would be idiotic not to have around 100 of them for English, and similar quantities for other popular languages, since that would be a substantial selling feature.

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    10. Re:Garmin already does this by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Voices I would prefer...

      The mystery girl who sings Marvin I Love You
      The girl who did the Oh-a-oh bit in Video Killed the Radio Star
      The voice of CORA from Battlestar Galactica: The Long Patrol

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    11. Re:Garmin already does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best (among all English voices) is the voice named Lee in Australian English.

    12. Re:Garmin already does this by Cimexus · · Score: 1

      This is actually why I thought female voices for announcements were used in general, instead of male. I remember reading that a long time ago - the female voice cuts through background noise better in places like airports, train stations etc etc.

    13. Re:Garmin already does this by eggy78 · · Score: 1

      This is why I prefer female voices. Most of the gadgets I have can't reproduce lower frequencies very well, either distorting or removing them via a high-pass filter of some sort. Add in even a small amount of background noise and I can't pick the male voices out over the noise. I'd rather listen to a male voice, but with most gadgets it's not practical.

    14. Re:Garmin already does this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Experimented with a navigator with these. Most seem to be female voices, but differences between languages also make, well, quite a difference.

      - Finnish: my native tongue... well, tolerable.
      - Estonian: Finnish with hilarity factor, but not very practical.
      - British English: perfectly suitable for her job, gets it done.
      - US English: I don't want someone with that kind of wide accent ordering me around, not in my country nor in my car!
      - Indian English: it's like going on a ride with Abu. Fun for a while, but could be spiced up with stories from India.
      - Swedish: wrong dialect makes me hard to swallow the directions. Why there's a Swede with wrong accent in my car?
      - German: I've always felt fondness of German Engineering and language - even if it's a female voice.
      - French: no thanks.
      - Russian: makes it hard to comply with "don't drink and drive" directive. Also, not one of my strongest languages.
      - Mandarin Chinese: overly explicit in her expression. Very tiring, for non-natives and natives alike, it seems.
      - Cantonese: beyond my skills.
      - Afrikaans (after sufficiently empty battery, might be set as default): distracts driving. Sufficiently understandable, but that brain capacity has better use while driving.

      And no, this is not a joke. Different languages and dialects really create quite different feel to the experience, even if the goal is obviously the same.

  16. Norio Wakamoto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Everyone can appreciate that, even if they don't understand what's being said.

  17. I always thought the reasons were technical by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting
    • Female voices span a greater range of the audio frequency spectrum than male voices. So a loud, narrowband background noise (e.g. engine/road/wind noise when driving on the freeway) has a greater chance of making it difficult to hear a male voice, while a female voice cuts right through.
    • Higher frequency sounds carry more energy for the same amplitude (volume) than low frequency sounds, and drop off more quickly with distance (gets absorbed more readily by the air - why foghorns are low-pitched). So the environment normally has less high frequency background noise.
    • Lower frequencies require bigger speakers, so it's easier to crank up the volume of a female voice using a smaller speaker.
    1. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your nerd "technical reasons" leave us no room for endless inflammatory arguments and trite gender sterotyping! How will we fill the empty silence now?

    2. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I sooo need to make a misogynist, sexist, totally male answer to this but I'm resisting... Not saying anything about piercing tones... No, not suffered permanent psychological damage as a result of female bosses.... Does not compute....

    3. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife finds many (most?) female voices annoying and ugly. She makes fun of female TV reporters, and changes the radio station away from a lot of popular female singers. I don't get it, but that's one anecdote.

    4. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Bull. I can't stand hearing some dude's voice on my devices. It pisses me off and I wouldn't even buy it. I think on this I'm not alone by any means.

    5. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by migla · · Score: 1

      Your nerd "technical reasons" leave us no room for endless inflammatory arguments and trite gender sterotyping! How will we fill the empty silence now?

      We could have general discussions about the treatment and oppression or lack thereof of men women and hermaphrodites in different settings, like for example among geeks, the free software community or in general.

      The piece linked in my sig could be a conversation starter. ( http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/22786_To_My_Someday_Daughter.html )

      It's about players of Magic the gathering, also a nerdy mostly male community. We could discuss the merits of that piece and how much of it would apply to the slashdot community. I think we could get some flames and stereotypes flying.

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    6. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by migla · · Score: 1

      sry... forgot to put quotes the quote, which was the first paragraph. Did not mean to plagiarize.

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    7. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      Female voices span a greater range of the audio frequency spectrum than male voices.

      Citation, please? I think the opposite would be true. First of all, consonants have generally high frequencies and wide spectra, so the low male vowels will make the whole spectrum wider. Secondly, harmonic frequencies are integer multiples of the fundamental frequency, so a male voice has more of these harmonics within the audible range. This is why deep male voices are good test material for audio systems. For example, lossy compression schemes will remove some of the harmonics, so female voices would be easier to preserve.

      Lower frequencies require bigger speakers, so it's easier to crank up the volume of a female voice using a smaller speaker.

      True. This is one more reason why male voices are harder to reproduce well, so in the end we choose the one which sounds better after all the noise. The assumption of the narrower spectrum of female voice also means that energy is more concentrated, so it stands out better above the noise floor.

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    8. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bull. I can't stand hearing some dude's voice on my devices. It pisses me off and I wouldn't even buy it. I think on this I'm not alone by any means.

      You're right! You're not the world's only homophobe!

    9. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by baitisj2 · · Score: 1

      An additional reason to use female voices is that larger speakers are needed to clearly reproduce lower-frequency sounds. Having a voice that dominates a higher frequency spectrum allows smaller speakers and smaller devices that produce sounds at sufficient volume.

    10. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by gedankenhoren · · Score: 1

      I don't think that is true. What happens is this:
      (1) Female voices have higher fundamental frequency
      (2) Higher fundamental frequency greater distance between harmonics
      While (1) and (2) would lead you to believe that therefore female voices have more high frequency components than male voices, what you need to look at is the formants, the bands of energy centered around some frequency that our brain uses to interpret speech. What we see is that formants for vowel sounds for male and female voices are just about at the same frequency, regardless of their fundamental frequency.
      If anything, because of (2), female voices carry less information than male voices.
      There may be, however, some technical reason re the ease of simulating fewer harmonics with female voices, or we may perceive simulated female voices as more natural than simulated male voices...

    11. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just ask the nearest female, they'll gladly fill more than just frequency spectrums with noise. :P

    12. Re:I always thought the reasons were technical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a male voice.

  18. citation needed by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    Even assuming the 1990s were the middle ages, this is hard to believe. Firstly, nearly all navigational systems I've encountered here in Germany in the past ten years have female voices (if they have any), and the public transport system's automated announcements have been made by a female voice since forever.

    1. Re:citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, Australia/Sydney has had male voices on trains for as long as I can recall. On my navigation device, I prefer the Australian male voice, as it is relaxing and assuring. I found the female voice would increase my frustration. Note: am happily married with kids. I had a similar conversation about male/female voices with friends. We all supposedly went against the grain and prefer male voices (if you believe the article).

      Concur with another poster - CITATION NEEDED.

    2. Re:citation needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't it exactly the other way round with BMW replacing the male voice with a female one?

    3. Re:citation needed by df200 · · Score: 1

      I don't have any information about this recall, but I do have a 1996 BMW 7-series which actually has a male voice for the navigation system (and no, you don't get a choice of that). I think the main reason they got rid of that guy inside the dashboard is because he mostly sounds like shouting orders at you instead of "guiding" you nicely.

  19. On purely technical aspect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The frequency spectrum of a female voice just fits better the badwidth of typical audio devices so the recorded message is less distorted.

  20. Definitive solution to this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ru Paul for everyone.

  21. Higher pitch? by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

    I've read (though I can't quote sources, sorry) that the main reason computerised voices on navigation aids is female is the higher pitch. In jets where that sort of thing was pioneered it made the voice easier to distinguish clearly from the "background" noise of the engines without having to raise the volume, and presumably the difference is similar in cars.

    There may be cultural reasons too, of course, but this theory of a physical reason makes sense to me.

    1. Re:Higher pitch? by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Higher pitches do not always come through better. I have significant hearing loss caused by exposure to gunfire (a 5"/54 naval rifle) back in '72. My audiographs show a distinct notch in them, often called an "Artillery Notch." I find it hard to understand women with high-pitched voices, even if they speak louder, partly because when they raise their voice, they also raise the pitch, making it even harder for me to understand them. I need them to speak clearly and pitch their voice somewhat lower, which is hard enough when you're talking with a real person, much harder with a computer generated voice that's not customizable.

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  22. Concealed Apple commercial? by g00ey · · Score: 2

    From my experience the gender of the synthetic voices has been male by default so I don't recognize this. The default voice on the old Amiga narrator.device was male. The default voice on loud-reading software used to be NeoSpeech Paul which has been one of the best English spoken computer narrator compilations out there.
    The GPS software I have used have both male and female voices in different languages to choose from, I have primarily used TomTom and Navigon. I cannot recall that I preferred one gender over the other.
    Telephone voices on the other hand have from my experience been dominated by females, and we're talking about automated phone services and phone queue notifications. But seriously, I wouldn't care whether the voice is male or female.

    There may or may not be some bearing in the statements regarding the gender of the computer voice although I seriously doubt it. But when I read the following:

    "What's interesting to me is how they seem to intentionally make her speech sound artificial -- they could choose to make her speech more seamless and human-like, but they choose instead to highlight the technology,"

    I seriously started to believe that this article is paid for by Apple. Making a really good and natural voice is a very difficult undertaking and I have not yet heard a perfect and seamless computer voice that sounds as natural as a real human.

    1. Re:Concealed Apple commercial? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The default voice on loud-reading software used to be NeoSpeech Paul which has been one of the best English spoken computer narrator compilations out there. ...
      But when I read the following:
        "What's interesting to me is how they seem to intentionally make her speech sound artificial -- they could choose to make her speech more seamless and human-like, but they choose instead to highlight the technology,"
      I seriously started to believe that this article is paid for by Apple. Making a really good and natural voice is a very difficult undertaking and I have not yet heard a perfect and seamless computer voice that sounds as natural as a real human.

      To be fair, the text-to-speech voices Apple included in Mac OS X Lion, Samantha and Tom, are very close in quality to NeoSpeech Paul. They all work really well for some sentences, but falter a bit on others.

      Siri has more distortion, but its faults don't match up with the distortions heard in previous generations of Apple's TTS voices. So why would they create a new voice just for Siri that wasn't as good as they could make it? Did they want it to be clear that this is a computer generated voice, and not a real person as the article says? I don't know the answer, but it seems plausible.

    2. Re:Concealed Apple commercial? by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      There are a few possible reasons. One is that I'm pretty darn sure the TTS occurs locally, which means they are limited to the processor on the phone. Even then, the voice is more artificial than the phone is capable of, so I doubt this was a major factor.

      Possibility two is that while the TTS is definitely the one part of Siri that can be replaced without any impact on the rest, they may have stuck with whatever TTS engine was in use by SRI when they were developing SIRI just to get it out the door as quickly as possible.

      That they deliberately wanted an artificial sounding voice is definitely also a possibility.

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    3. Re:Concealed Apple commercial? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're comparing the voice to the voices that already exist for Mac OSX speech-to-text? If the siri voice is more "mechanical" sounding than, say, "Alex" or "Victoria" then it's certainly within the realm of speculation that they chose to have it be that way as a design decision rather than a technical constraint.

      I'm not planning on buying an iPhone soon, so I don't know when I'll find out, if ever....

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  23. Let me choose by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

    I'd prefer Woodie Allen's voice.

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    1. Re:Let me choose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You should, um, probably, like turn left here...OK, you don't have to. It not really a direction really, it's more of a suggestion. I-I-I could recalculate if you want, but it would be, you know, easier if I didn't have too. Anyway, why are we visiting a city where the only cultural advantage is being able to make a right turn on a red light?"

      It would be the only computer system that is taken to an analyst instead of Geek Squad!

  24. Listen to the republican debate by 7-Vodka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Whoever wrote this story hasn't been listening to the republican debate. I want to poke out my eardrums whenever michelle bachman speaks, sorry, screams.

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    1. Re:Listen to the republican debate by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I'd rather listen to her than Romney, or Perry.

    2. Re:Listen to the republican debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear you brother. Only I feel the same way about that ditz Pelosi...

    3. Re:Listen to the republican debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure she's not actually a machine. ...Pretty sure.

  25. Not a myth by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Informative

    In WW2 ground controllers for the British Air Force were almost all women. I was told (by someone who had good reason to know) that there was a debate about whether to have women radio operators in the aircraft. There were two reasons: One was more reliable communication, the other was to prevent the Germans spoofing aircraft radio operators. A number of women operators were asked for their views and immediately volunteered to fly (a very dangerous occupation). Despite this, the proposal was turned down. The attitudes at the time were truly backward; there were women pilots who were allowed to deliver aircraft to their bases, but they were not allowed to fly with guns loaded - a quite incomprehensible decision since some of them were shot down by enemy action without a chance of fighting back.

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    1. Re:Not a myth by migla · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that interesting tidbit. Times have changed quite a lot. Many remnants of the old ways are still permeating our culture, though.

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    2. Re:Not a myth by dave420 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Germans also used women ground controllers. A funny story: when the RAF used to interfere with broadcasts on Luftwaffe channels (using "tame" native German speakers) their operations usually ended in German-speaking lady operators arguing with each other, all trying to convince the confused airmen they were a real Luftwaffe controller.

    3. Re:Not a myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is a "women operator"? Presumably it's the opposite of a "men operator" but I don't know what those are either. Now if it were a female or male operator I would understand...

    4. Re:Not a myth by Nyder · · Score: 1, Funny

      .... The attitudes at the time were truly backward; there were women pilots who were allowed to deliver aircraft to their bases, but they were not allowed to fly with guns loaded - a quite incomprehensible decision since some of them were shot down by enemy action without a chance of fighting back.

      That was planned. The officers (who were male) didn't like the uppity women who were trying to do a man's job. So they found a solution to their problem.

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    5. Re:Not a myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women's mouth should have been stuck shut and given guns instead of rivets during WW2. The draft should have covered women also!...

  26. Narrators? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This doesn't seem to be the case for narrators.

    Pretty sure that neither Oprah nor Sigourney Weaver were considered more pleasing than David Attenborough.

    1. Re:Narrators? by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Not sure how Oprah fit into the Life producers' vision... she does have talent, though, had she not been a talk show diva she could have had a briliant acting career I think. Quite obviously, the producers of Planet Earth picked narrators based on credentials: Attenborough, of course, the brilliant naturalist; and Weaver, the defacto authority in xenomorphic biology. Attenborough's narration, however, was even better when he was younger. I've watched Life on Earth about 50 times. He's mesmerizing... but in a good way. Weaver's narration is best when she is on edge or maybe a little pissed off... which didn't really come out so well without the emotion in the stateside version of PE.

  27. James Earl Jones voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would listen to James Earl Jones giving me driving directions any day. My current GPS female voice is annoying -- I mute it.

  28. For IVRs it's usually for Intimidation by kervin · · Score: 2

    Least for IVRs, on average people find male voices more intimidating than female voices. We also find female voices more nurturing than male voices on average.

    Other posters have already point this out. Suggestions ( facilitated by nurturing speaker ) then women are used. Commands ( facilitated by intimidation, i.e. subtle threat of punishment ) then males are more often used.

    Systems where you may need to intimidate the listener a bit will tend to use male voices. I kid you not, but in the future pay attention to how many collections operators or conflict desks sound 'black'. Also think of how often you spoke to a collections/conflict department and got a deep voiced male. Now compare that to how often you called the general operator and got a deep voiced male.

    1. Re:For IVRs it's usually for Intimidation by snowgirl · · Score: 1

      While you're right, it's because of pervasive cultural stereotypes, rather than anything "biological" or "rational". I know you didn't say or imply that this were the case, but just pointing that out.

      Of course, companies whose only goal in "life" is to increase profits will exploit cultural stereotypes and biases to make us buy things, and/or give them money. Advertising is the literal embodiment of this notion.

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  29. Similar function by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because computers, like women, are there to serve.

    1. Re:Similar function by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I'd Mod you +5 Sexist.

  30. Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone likes Morgan Freeman's voice. Fact.

    1. Re:Voice by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I like his voice okay. I'd rather listen to a woman talk to me though. I'm just wired that way.

  31. Ha Ha Ha! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously? An Apple spokeswoman!!!!!!!!!!! There's no such word! Spokesperson, maybe...

    1. Re:Ha Ha Ha! by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Ah but there is. It means a Woman that speaks. Spokeswoman. It's like a spokesperson but more specific.

  32. What about audiobooks? by brillow · · Score: 1

    It seems to me though that most audiobooks are read by men, and of the ones I have read by women, I find the voice irritating. These are real people though, maybe its more to do with how male and female voices are synthed.

    1. Re:What about audiobooks? by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      I've listened to a couple of librevoice recordings from gutenberg, and I think that the real reason is that women, generally, like to read books more than men, so they get the idea that they would like volunteer to read for an audio book as well.

      But, they're volunteers, not professional voice actors, so everything comes out as some kind of sing-songy poem read for kids. It's not that women are worse at voice acting than men, it's just that in the amateur reading department there are more of them. The male volunteers have been just as bad. To the point that I prefer my computer's voice to the volunteer readers.

      Of the professional recordings I've heard, there haven't been any done by women, so I guess that would be potential flaw in my logic. They've all been superior to machine-readings though. I suspect if I listen to enough, the professional women will do just as well. Now, I just need to figure out how to get the Overdrive app to not get pre-empted by iTunes when I plug my iPod into my car's iPod link....

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    2. Re:What about audiobooks? by reason · · Score: 1

      I prefer male voices for audiobooks because I can then listen to the books at 3X normal speed, without loss of clarity. Deep female voices (and higher male voices), I listen to at 2X speed. Higher female voices, I have to listen to at 1X, and I try to avoid them.

    3. Re:What about audiobooks? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Is this because you're speeding up the playback speed? If you're adjusting the reading-speed parameter for the voice, the higher-pitched voices should be better for fast-reading because the higher frequency should allow higher frequency modulation to be discernible.

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    4. Re:What about audiobooks? by reason · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid I don't know how it works. I use the 2X setting in iTunes or the 2X or 3X setting in the Audible app. The voices don't sound higher pitched, but the deeper voices are definitely clearer when sped up.

  33. That can't be right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Male rock stars make more money than female ones. The proof is in the pudding.

  34. frequency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I like female voices on GPS in particular because the frequency spread of a typical female voice is easier to hear (over engine drone, wind noise, etc) regardless of the vehicle I'm driving, and whether I have the targa roof off my car, or driving a truck, I can still hear it but sometimes the male voices are diminished - plus the voices are sometimes more pleasant.

  35. As they say on Reddit... by Vandil+X · · Score: 1

    "Forvever Alone"

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  36. There is only one by Fuzzums · · Score: 1

    Sir David Frederick Attenborough.

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    1. Re:There is only one by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Actually... there's two. Like with Elvis, there is the young Mr. David Attenborough and the aged Sir David Attenborough. They are quite different, I think... further apart than Sir Alec Guinness' Obiwan and Ewen McGregor's Obiwan.

  37. Proof that BMW owners are jerks by MadMartigan2001 · · Score: 1

    Discussion is over. The primary demographic for BMW's is insecure middle aged men who can't even listen to a computer for fear of degrading their "Macho"! Soooo pathetic.

  38. Simple: by TheABomb · · Score: 0

    Because the men programming the systems never have another opportunity to hear a woman's voice telling them what to touch.

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  39. Seriously? by superdave80 · · Score: 1
    FTFS:

    after being flooded with calls from German men saying they refused to take directions from a woman.

    For real? Not only were these men pissed off about taking direction from a computerized woman's voice, but they also felt it necessary to call BMW to bitch about it. And then, BMW took these tools seriously enough to recall the cars? This just has to be a urban legend.

    [runs off to check snopes]

    1. Re:Seriously? by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      FTFS:

      after being flooded with calls from German men saying they refused to take directions from a woman.

      For real? Not only were these men pissed off about taking direction from a computerized woman's voice, but they also felt it necessary to call BMW to bitch about it. And then, BMW took these tools seriously enough to recall the cars? This just has to be a urban legend.

      [runs off to check snopes]

      This, from the country that wouldn't allow anything other than water, barley and hops into anything called Bier. Um, yes, they are rather stubborn about their traditions.

  40. Why computer Voices are Mostly Female by Linuxmonger · · Score: 2

    Because computer programmers are mostly male.

  41. Riddle me this, by MyFirstNameIsPaul · · Score: 1

    How come every xtranormal video has the male character teaching the uninformed and/or ignorant female character?

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  42. I disagree by koan · · Score: 1

    Most female voices are grating unless lower pitched than average, ( just listen to any local female news caster....GRATING) I think the real reason is that you are telling the voice what to do and subconsciously marketing views women as subservient, I honestly believe males are generally more pleasant to listen to due to the deeper tone.

    I'll toss a little homophobia on top as most men want a female voice.

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    1. Re:I disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll toss a little homophobia on top as most men want a female voice.

      I'll buy that. It's the reason I choose the female player model in 3rd person view games. 90% of the game, you're looking at your own ass...

  43. There's a much simpler reason. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Norio Wakamoto doesn't speak more languages.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lzG9MnkVlA

  44. Majel Barrett by milkmage · · Score: 1

    that's why.

  45. Eject Eject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if german fighter pilots refuse to eject in emergencies?

    I was having a similar conversation about responsiveness to female voices with a speech pathologist and an Airforce officer. The former used results from child education as an example, and the latter pointed out that this is why a female voice is used for the 'eject eject' for fighter pilots.

  46. Some excellent choices... by teaserX · · Score: 1

    Morgan Freeman
    David Attenborough
    Mike Rowe
    Patrick Stewart
    ...would all probably be universally accepted.

    Unacceptable:
    Bobcat Goldthwait
    Almost anyone from Pulp Fiction ( Christopher Walken, Steve Buschemi, John Travolta....Sammuel Jackson's voice might not be bad.)
    Chairman Kaga
    Marlon Brando
    ...you add some more...

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    1. Re:Some excellent choices... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Pierce Brosnan... But only because he was Remington Steele.

      He *was* Remington Steele, wasn't he?

    2. Re:Some excellent choices... by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

      Adam Sandler? Depends on which voice he does. :)
      - lunch lady
      - goat
      - etc..

  47. Thats not the reason at all. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Men will pay more attention to a females voice, and females feel more comfortable with another female voice. Its simple psychology.

  48. weather by rossdee · · Score: 1

    You are listening to NOAA's national weather service station...
    (Sounds like Stephen Hawking to me...)

    How come nobody has mentioned Peter Tuddenham (Zen from B7)

    As far as narrating a story, or documentary I have always frefered male british voices. (Richard Burton, Patrick Stewart, John Hurt, Sir John Geilgud) but then I was born in a Commonwealth country.

    1. Re:weather by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      i think having siri assistant that sounds like hawking would be cool, although british voices are some of the best computer voices, i think they should make one that sounds like tim curry.

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  49. You're doing it wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Bro's before ho's"

    That doesn't mean 'only hang out with dudes', it means 'don't screw over your friends to get laid'.

  50. unreal 2k4 sexy voice by Revek · · Score: 1

    My fav is when the sexy unreal 2004 voice say 'Holy Shit'. Sounds like she is creaming herself.

  51. UK Siri voice is infamous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That voice has been used in UK electronica for decades...it's infamous...

  52. Bitchin' Betty to the rescue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Studies have shown that people pay closer attention to a female voice. A female voice is also more likely to stand out above the din of jet noise, rumble and common male-dominated radio chatter. Furthermore, a higher-pitched voice can enunciate more clearly. Although lower-pitched male voices can contain high-frequency overtones that aid recognition, the lower pitches dominate.
    By the way, the cockpit warning system voice is nicknamed "Bitching Betty" or "Bitchin' Betty".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitching_Betty

  53. Read better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The hypothesis isn't "it's hard to find male voices that everybody likes": rather "it's much easier to find a female voice that everyone likes than a male voice that everyone likes". Notice the difference.

    1. Re:Read better by WaywardGeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Academic studies always show that we prefer female voices, but in reality, those who count on computer generated voices all day prefer male voices. Note all the readers mentioning James Earl Jones. The reason studies like this get it wrong is simple. They get random groups of people who never use computer voices to take part in their experiments, and such people initially prefer female voices. If the experiments were to run long enough for participants to become expert listeners, they would find they trend towards male voices. I do a lot of looking at speech signals, and my unsupported theory as to why we switch to male voices is that male voices cover a broader portion of the sweet spot in our hearing, where we perceive sound most sensitively. This makes male voices easier to listen to if you have to listen for long periods of time. They are also easier to understand in noisy environments, thus thus the classic low male ham radio voice.

      To understand what people like when they have to listen a lot to computer generated voices, just ask the blind. I was the tech lead for Vinux 3.0, which is Linux for the Vision Impaired. That doesn't make me an expert, but here are my observations. The most popular voices for blind programmers are male, probably eloquence first (it can play very fast), followed by espeak (because it's free and everywhere), followed by various low-speed commercial male voices. The most popular Mac voice for the blind is Adam, a mechanical guy with a decent voice that can play at decent speed. The female voices are often discussed, usually with adjectives like sexy, emotional, sultry, and so on, but in the end the blind go back to their male TTS engines to get work done.

      I did a lot of testing to try and speed up voices to the speeds the blind like to listen. The result is the sonic library, which powers speech speed-up in various programs like the Astro Nova player at up to 6X playback speed. At least one blind lister can listen with high comprehension to a male voice (eloquence) at about 1,500 words per minute, or 7X the default speed of this high speed voice. At this speed, the original vowels are typically compressed to one or two pitch periods. It's incredible that a blind listener can still perceive these as whole phonemes. To achieve higher speed, I've told him he needs to consider listening to a female voice, where I could get perhaps twice as many pitch periods into the same 10-ish milliseconds where he currently perceives one phoneme. The problem is that at higher fundamental pitch, this voice will register on a smaller portion of his hearing bandwidth, making it harder to get as much information out of it high speed. We've not yet had any luck with high speed female voices.

      As a person losing central vision, I experienced all this myself. When I first started using computer generated voices, I tried to find a female voice I could live with. I tried a couple of smooth female Cepstral voices, but before long they sounded grating and frustratingly slow. My blind friend told me to avoid the "natural" voices and go with something that I could listen to at high speed, but I just couldn't stand the mechanical voice he was pushing - eloquence. Well, he was right. I eventually migrated to eloquence just like him and many blind people. James Earl Jones has the perfect voice for computers. It's low enough to take advantage of every bit of bandwidth we easily perceive. It's broad spectrum, taking advantage of the high frequencies as well, and very consistent, making his voice addictive. Your ear likes consistency.

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    2. Re:Read better by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Question: How fast of a modem can he 'read' ascii from? 110, 300, 2400?

    3. Re:Read better by deesine · · Score: 1

      Very interesting theory. As someone who only occasionally hears a computer generated voice each week, I definitely prefer it to be female. And I prefer her to be tenor/alto, not soprano.

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    4. Re:Read better by evilviper · · Score: 2

      Your question is answered, and your theory doesn't quite fit:

      http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1428081.htm

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    5. Re:Read better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      For my computer generated voices, I prefer a raspy, sensual voice, with a hint of lasciviousness. Compliant, or even coy at times, yet surprisingly assertive when you least expect it.

    6. Re:Read better by deesine · · Score: 2

      So you're like the others here, and prefer James Earl Jones...

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  54. Male voices for are serious matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Boeing and Airbus, use only MALE voices for their cockpit computer in charge of reading altitude call outs, critical speeds and various alerts and announcements.
    No place for "a Siri" in any serious environment.

  55. Then why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then why...does NOAA use a synthesized male voice on all of its weather broadcast stations?

    1. Re:Then why... by E.I.A · · Score: 1

      maybe she's just really butch

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  56. Another monitizing opportunity by katarn · · Score: 1

    1) Include female synthesized voices in Germany and other places which prefer male.
    2) Include male synthesized voices in the USA and other places which prefer female.
    3) Sell "value enhancement" packages of other voices for $10 a shot.
    4) Profit!
    5) Uhm, where's my slice of the pie for thinking of the idea?

  57. How about this... by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would pay good money (as opposed to Bitcoins) to listen to James Earl Jones and Morgan Freeman have a conversation about types of cheese.

  58. Re:Some not so excellent choices... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

    unacceptable sylvester stallone Gilbert Gottfried

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  59. Why are they female? by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

    Mainly because of Star Trek

  60. I just find the female voices easier to understand by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

    Every talking GPS unit I have had, I find the higher pitch of the female voice to cut thru the low frequency background noise of driving better than the mail voices.

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  61. Why Computer Voices Are Mostly Female? by dhammabum · · Score: 1

    um, because they are?

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  62. Male Voice vs Female Voice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can tell you something I noticed at Walgreens pharmacy. When they call to tell you your prescription will be delayed, it is a male computer voice delivering the bad news. However, when they call you to tell you your prescription is ready (good news), it is always a female computer voice.

  63. Because Muses are Female by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I wonder if there is a difference in voice preference between the sexes? The whole anima/animus thing, you know. Guess it depends on how individuated you are.

  64. Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most people implementing various sorts of voice technology are blokes who wished they'd dated more in high school. Who doesn't want a female touch in the cubicle?

  65. because men are.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    genetically predisposed to obey a female voice. years of natural selection.

  66. Old school Cylon like voice was in Alanta airport by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    when they first implemented their subway system between gates. It has changed a few times since then but being a product of that generation many of us used to comment on it all the time in BBS days.

    Personal favorite female voice on a computer was the voice used in Mechwarrior 2.

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  67. "Left ... - no right" by AtomicJake · · Score: 1

    My custom made GPS navigation unit in my car with my wife's voice .... :-)

  68. Age is a factor by hicksw · · Score: 1

    In my limited experience, older ears seem to lose the high frequencies more/first.

    My hearing test charts show a simple linear roll-off (log-log) plot

    Right - 6 dB/octave
    Left - 8 dB/octave
    Age - 66

    My mother-in-law was worse. Above 3kHz, it just fell to nothing. She couldn't understand most female voices. Age 90.
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  69. SHODAN ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

    ... beats HAL9000s insanity with pure, unadulterated malice.

    So, nothing evil ever came from a male computer, either.

  70. The Real Resaon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Majel Barrett Rodenberry

    Hers was the female voice of every Star Fleet computer.

    She also played:
    "Number One" in the original pilot "The Cage"
    "Nurse Christine Chapel" in TOS
    "Dr. Christine Chapel" in the TOS-based ST movies
    "Lwaxana Troi" in TNG and DS9

  71. THEY don't like it WHEN YOU CALL THEM OUT by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    See

    Told yah so!

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  72. Re:Old school Cylon like voice was in Alanta airpo by bckrispi · · Score: 1

    Personal favorite female voice on a computer was the voice used in Mechwarrior 2.

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  73. BMW navigation system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    voiced by Helga von Bulow?

  74. Female voices are easier to distinguish by lordholm · · Score: 1

    There has been plenty of research showing that female voices are easier to pickup in a noisy airplane cockpit. I would not be surprised if the same holds in a car.

    The BMW story really has a citation needed tag as far as I see it. A university professor, specialized in avionics told me the same thing, but about some airlines (situated in some politically and religiously conservative countries) who complained that their pilots did not want to listen to a female voice.

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