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Windows OS Coming To the Mainframe

msmoriarty writes "Following up on its May announcement, IBM has now confirmed that by December 16 it will support Microsoft Windows on zEnterprise via its zBX component."

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  1. Is this something the market forces are demanding? by spacepimp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What in the Mainframe market sector is this the answer to?

  2. Not quite... by the+linux+geek · · Score: 3, Informative

    The summary misses something fairly important, which is that Windows isn't running on the z mainframe itself. This allows Windows blades to be inserted into an external chassis (zBX) and managed by a software component called the Unified Resource Manager.

    1. Re:Not quite... by the+linux+geek · · Score: 4, Informative

      People tolerate it because it works. Mainframes have compelling performance characteristics, especially for virtualization- or I/O-heavy workloads, and most people don't need a full unlocked processor (a CP.) Linux is the fastest-growing OS on z, and a Linux specialty engine (Integrated Facility for Linux) is relatively cheap compared to the other types of specialty engines. zAAP/zIIP/CP only really matters if you're running z/OS, in which case you're probably a large enough company tat you can afford it, or if you're running z/VSE, in which case you're probably only using one or two processors anyway.

  3. And following hot on the heals of this .... by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... Ferrari have just announced that they will be installing a 125cc engine into their 458 Italia. A spokeman said: "It works'a fine in'a the moped, whats'a the problem?"

  4. The Devil On His Throne by Das+Auge · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Devil sits on his throne in Hell. On of his minions comes running in.

    "Sire! Sire! Microsoft has ported Windows to a mainframe!"

    The Devil favors him with a surprised look. "Is it that time already? The end of the mortal world?"

    The minion genuflects before him. "Yes! Yes! End of times, master!"

    The Devil rubs his chin. "Windows on a mainframe?"

    The minion nods emphatically.

    The Devil considers it for a few moments, "Well, I don't think I want it anymore."

  5. Year of Windows on the Mainframe by bonch · · Score: 3, Funny

    Truly, next year will be the year of Windows on the Mainframe!

  6. Re:Is this something the market forces are demandi by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Informative

    Only one of the last 6 companies I worked for DIDN'T have a mainframe.

    Not only does my current company still have a mainframe- we're doing a major software upgrade on it next year.

    The mainframe never died.

    --
    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  7. Re:Is this something the market forces are demandi by HWMTM · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some estimates have mainframes processing 80% of the world's data. http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/08/western-civilization-runs-on-mainframe.html Now I'm not sure how accurate that percentage is, but if you run an enterprise business and have thousands of servers to maintain, a mainframe still makes a lot of sense.

  8. Re:Is this something the market forces are demandi by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Contrary to the impression left by the misleading title, this is NOT Windows running on a mainframe. It is Windows running on a blade in a blade center attached to and managed by the mainframe. Using a Windows (or Linux, or AIX) box to perform analytics on mainframe data is not new. What is new is the methods for getting the data from the mainframe, and the fact that the whole thing is managed by the mainframe. And in the mainframe sector, management is huge.

  9. Re:Run! Run! Run for your lives! by wedontneednobadges · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you kidding? This is the greatest job security coup of all time! World wide IT departments will have to start hiring around the clock. Think of all that buggy, crashing, virus invected software that will constantly require fixing. This will make all that Y2k hype seem like a walk in the park LOL!!!

  10. Re:Is this something the market forces are demandi by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lots of companies use mainframes still. For tasks that require high availability and high I/O, mainframes are your best bet. While you can run a web server on a mainframe, it isn't utilizing the advantages. Running your financial systems where you get tens or hundreds of thousands concurrent users making transcactions is where mainframes have no equal. Also remember it isn't always an either/or situation. A company can use a farm of web servers to handle the front end while the backend processing is handled by a mainframe.

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    Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
  11. Re:IPL, IPL, IPL, IPL, All the doo dah day! by bws111 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Windows does not run on the mainframe (z/Architecture engine). Windows runs on an Intel blade in a blade center connected to the mainframe with some high-speed links and is managed by the mainframe. The mainframe is still running z/OS, and will have the same performance and reliability characteristics it always had.