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Fedora 16 Released

Karrde712 writes "Fedora 16 has just been released, bringing with it Gnome 3.2, KDE 4.7, GRUB2 and more!" Here are the full release notes; most users will probably want to jump to the list of changes for desktop users.

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  1. Dedicated to Dennis Ritchie by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Informative

    It should be noted in the article.

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    1. Re:Dedicated to Dennis Ritchie by Enderandrew · · Score: 2

      Dennis Richie co-invented the C programing language and Unix. He also wrote the definitive C programing book of its time.

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  2. Grub2? by ichthus · · Score: 2

    They're actually listing grub2 as an UPGRADE?

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    1. Re:Grub2? by Skapare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wait until GRUB3 comes out. You won't even need to boot an OS with that. The question is whether GRUB3 will include Xfce or just be GNOME only.

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    2. Re:Grub2? by AdamWill · · Score: 2

      That's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737508 .

      Frankly, we rather feel grub2 is something of a downgrade too. Or at least an unnecessary pain in the ass. Fedora isn't going to grub2 because we think it's way better than grub - we don't. Fedora's going to grub2 because it's what upstream supports, and we're tired of having an entire person who does nothing but keep grub-legacy working now upstream doesn't care about it any more.

  3. Re:With Gnome 3 by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, if you insist.

    Fedora has nearly always been extremely quick (sometimes too much so) to adopt new software and features. It would be shocking if they didn't have Gnome 3. Most of the time, this means Fedora is the most technically advanced major Linux distro. It also makes it one of the buggiest. Don't use it if you don't want to play around with cutting edge new Linux software (versions). Simple as that.

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  4. Spare the mirror sites, use the torrents by Nighttime · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fedora torrents are located here.

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  5. Maybe nice for a home desktop ... by Skapare · · Score: 2

    ,,, were it not for Gnome by default. But I've yet to see anything (and it would take a lot, so I'm not expecting it) to overcome their overly short support cycles. I need something better to use this at work, for either the desktops (we only use Windows where there is absolutely no other choice, which makes a grand total of 2) or the servers (0). But even Ubuntu's slow (in some cases) security updates are starting to bother me (over an issue they haven't yet updated in my one-version-behind system even though Slackware fixed the same one over a month ago in versions all the way back to 2007).

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  6. Re:With Gnome 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    kheres kome khing kbout kde khat kust kothers khe khit kut kf ke.

  7. Re:More fixing of things that weren't broken by IMightB · · Score: 2

    I'll bet you still have DrDOS and Windows for Workgroups with MS BOB on your servers.

  8. Applefication of the Desktop - Re:With Gnome 3 by Nivag064 · · Score: 2


    Applefication (The doctrine that designers know better than users, and that users should not worry their tiny little minds about how to configure something to be useful for them) of desktops and applications may be fine for Sheeple, but not for people who want to get the most out of their desktops.
    GNOME 3 is a total disaster, it is simply unworkable for people who actually want to do serious work - unless your use of a computer is somewhat trivial and you're happy with what appears to be something that seems to be based on a mobile phone interface for large screens.

    GNOME 3 is a triumph of fashion over functionality.

    As Linus, and others have said, xfce is better than GNOME 3, but not as good as GNOME 2.

    What are they smoking? Were they bought out by Apple or Microsoft???

  9. Re:With Gnome 3 by kramulous · · Score: 3, Informative

    Doesn't quite meet you requirements, but let's hope it does soon. You probably know about it but anyway : Try this

    I find that it is a bit hit and miss on machines (not always works) but when it does, it works well.

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  10. Its more disappointing than Fedora 15. by lsatenstein · · Score: 2

    The welcome screen is a big black blob of window, and the interface is no better than Fedora 15. The net benefit is the newer kernel. My first efforts with newer software versions, met with failed to launch, and bugzilla core dumps being forwarded.

    Here is an interesting idea for an improvement. In the bottom right corner, allow the gnome 2 desktop switcher to appear. It allows us with one click to move from desktop to desktop with a single click, and allows Gnome3 to please the email/internet users.

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