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Scientists Develop Super-Slippery Material

Hugh Pickens writes writes "Anyone who is partial to ketchup with their food will know how difficult it is to get the final dregs from the bottle but now the Telegraph reports that scientists have created one of the most slippery materials ever that promises to result in new self-cleaning surfaces that never get dirty, could be used to coat the inside of bottles and jars to help consumers get all of the food inside, or in the energy industry for making oil flow more efficiently through pipes. Professor Joanna Aizenberg, a materials scientists at Harvard University, was inspired by the carnivorous Nepenthes pitcher plants, which has a highly slippery surface at the top of its flute-shaped leaves so that insects tumble down into the digestive juices contained inside. The new material, known as a Slippery Liquid Infused Porous Surface or SLIPS boasts a rare trait called "omniphobicity", which means it can repel both water and oily materials. "If we used substance like ours to coat the inside of bottles, it would be possible to get it all out," says Aizenberg. "The only problem may be that the sauce may come out a little too easily on to their food.""

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  1. Prior Art by theswimmingbird · · Score: 2

    Aperture Science Blue Repulsion Gel.

    1. Re:Prior Art by DikSeaCup · · Score: 5, Informative

      I disagree. This sounds more like the Orange Propulsion Gel than the blue stuff.

      "The only problem may be that the sauce may come out a little too easily on to their food."

      Now, if it comes shooting out of the top after you open it, that would be the blue gel.

    2. Re:Prior Art by durrr · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whichever it happens to be, if it can cover soft surfaces and survive cleaning we'll find it inside plastic vaginas.

    3. Re:Prior Art by mooingyak · · Score: 5, Funny

      YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG.

      Are you saying "You're REALLY REALLY wrong." ?

      or are you saying "When you fuck, you are not doing it correctly." ?

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    4. Re:Prior Art by shaitand · · Score: 2

      Sorry but I'm with him. SOME friction is your friend. This is why anal sex feels better than vaginal sex, more points of CONTACT. There is nothing worse than the over application of lubricant (or sex with a condom which is similar in ways). Friction and touch go hand in hand. Lubrication reduces friction but without any friction there is no touching happening.

  2. Contraceptives? by vlm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Contraceptive compatible?

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    1. Re:Contraceptives? by somersault · · Score: 2

      It's a contraceptive in its own right. Just skoosh in some of that before you go, and nothing is going to stick :p

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    2. Re:Contraceptives? by niftydude · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm not sure sex would be that enjoyable without any sensation of friction from the parts that are being rubbed together...

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  3. There was a movie about this by kurt555gs · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044876/ -- We all know the ending.

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    1. Re:There was a movie about this by grumling · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Keynesian economics presented in film.

      Nice. I'll have to look for it.

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    2. Re:There was a movie about this by twiddler69 · · Score: 2

      These new innovative technologies never hit the Market for consumers. I've been reading Slashdot for years and I can't remember how many new technologies were invented to better our lives, I have yet to see any of them.

  4. Solar Panels??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If it has good UV stability and doesn't block to much sun light; it would be great for use on solar panels that otherwise need to be cleaned in order achieve peak performance.

  5. Underpants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This opens a world of possibilities to the industry of underwear... First you don't need to iron, now you don't need to wash xD.

    1. Re:Underpants? by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 2

      You iron your underwear?

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    2. Re:Underpants? by GNious · · Score: 5, Funny

      no .. his mom does ...

    3. Re:Underpants? by LongearedBat · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...and they slip off by themselves.

  6. This by marcello_dl · · Score: 5, Funny

    This was the first post
    but it slipped down here.

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  7. they could just ask politicians by roman_mir · · Score: 5, Funny

    plenty of politicians are made of this stuff.

  8. Practical application... by Coisiche · · Score: 5, Funny

    Think of the practical joke possibilities... floors, door handles... oh colleagues' coffee mugs.

    I think the Health & Safety people are going to clamp down on this one.

    1. Re:Practical application... by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wait 'till the shit passes through the fan.

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    2. Re:Practical application... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the Health & Safety people are going to clamp down on this one.

      Well, I certainly hope the food industry does. Howzbout we test this stuff before we just start coating our pots and pans with the shit. (Like Telfon, ya know?)

      I, for one, am not looking forward to all my food tasting like cancer.

    3. Re:Practical application... by tukang · · Score: 2

      The blades would be clean but you'd still have shit scattered all over the place

    4. Re:Practical application... by tchdab1 · · Score: 2

      Yes!
      Does anyone else see the potential for coating food containers with a brand-new, not-found-in-nature substance that no one's ever eaten or tested before?
      What could possibly go wrong?
      Oh, and the logs and analysis of early antarctic expeditions make fascinating reading.

    5. Re:Practical application... by CaptSternn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With the onset of winter, I'm thinking sledding Griswold style!

  9. Re:flubber by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    no, it's the propulsion gel...for science!

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  10. Re:flubber by wisnoskij · · Score: 2

    bouncy != slippery

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  11. Simpler approach by marcop · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For ketchup, just put the bottle upside down. Gravity will place all the ketchup at the tip of the bottle. For bottles with nozzles, simply unscrew the top to get the very last spoonful.

    Peanut butter on the other hand is more challenging. Natural peanut butter tends to flow easier so is not as much of a problem. But the generic peanut butter is quite sticky.

    1. Re:Simpler approach by SloppyElvis · · Score: 2
    2. Re:Simpler approach by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      I can't tell if you're joking or not, but the ketchup bottles that have been common in the UK for the past few years do exactly that. I think most bottles with similar requirements, such as shampoo, do the same...

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    3. Re:Simpler approach by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's another tip: don't put regular plastic containers in the microwave.

  12. Re:Not for cooking sadly by richy+freeway · · Score: 4, Informative

    In other article covering same research project, they sadly say that said material is very temperature sensitive, thus unusable for cooking. Still nice curiosity.

    Goatse

  13. I wonder... by korgitser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...what happens when this super slippery meets that super sticky gecko tape http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/11/07/1615221/gecko-inspired-tape-can-be-reused-thousands-of-times. Logic bomb?

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    1. Re:I wonder... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      That's what they made insurance for.

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    2. Re:I wonder... by Anubis+IV · · Score: 2

      The marketing department needs to get on that. For right now, unstickyable object vs. sticks-to-anything tape just doesn't have the cachet that unmovable object vs. the unstoppable force does, but with the proper market penetration, we think we can capture a good chunk of mindshare within 8-10 years.

  14. Could you use this on a submarine? by mosb1000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Couldn't you use something like this to improve the efficiency of submarines, or perhaps aircraft?

    1. Re:Could you use this on a submarine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bearings, not barrings. Bearings don't slip. Bushings do. Bearings fail from wear caused by the sticking and unsticking of the rollers on the races. A little of the friction on aircraft is from skin drag, but much more is from the bumpiness of the surface above the thousandths, form drag and interference drag. Submarines and surface vessels might benefit greatly from it, but as much from preventing barnacles and crap from sticking. If you've never scraped a hull, you don't understand. Windmills are laminar flow creatures which might benefit from this, if they stay clean. The guy with the solar panel notion might be onto something.

    2. Re:Could you use this on a submarine? by mosb1000 · · Score: 2

      The reason it works for golf-balls and aircraft is it reduces form drag. Obviously, if you are talking about a pipeline, there is no form drag and therefore no benefit. Here is an article that explains the phenomena in good detail.

      Likewise, when you're talking about streamlined shapes, boundary layer separation is not the main cause of drag. Rather the main cause of drag is friction (or skin drag). Making the surface more slippery would help reduce friction, though I suspect only if viscosity of the fluid impregnating the surface was less than the viscosity of the fluid (which i assume is the case in the article).

    3. Re:Could you use this on a submarine? by jbengt · · Score: 4, Informative

      You are misinformed. (about pipelines, not about golf balls.)
      The pressure drop rate in a pipeline depends on velocity, the ratio of inertial forces to viscous forces (aka Reynolds number), and the ratio of the dimension of pipe surface roughness to pipe diameter (aka e/D). For relatively low velocity, low density, high viscosity flows the pipe surface roughness does not matter. For relatively high velocity, high density, low viscosity flows the pressure drop is a proportional to the square of the velocity times length divided by diameter and function of the log of e/D (greater pressures with higher roughness). Investigate the Darcy Weisbach equation and formulas for estimating friction factors
      Still, even if proven to be cheap, I imagine this might have limited application in pipelines, since age, corrosion, and erosion take their toll in actual service.

    4. Re:Could you use this on a submarine? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      I heard about this on Quirks and Quarks on CBC (not often they beat Slashdot to a story). The big use of this on aircraft would be to prevent ice from sticking to the wings, which is a big safety hazard.

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    5. Re:Could you use this on a submarine? by radtea · · Score: 2

      Submarines and surface vessels might benefit greatly from it, but as much from preventing barnacles and crap from sticking.

      That was my thought as well, although I'm afraid the guy who pointed out that nothing touted on /. as the next great thing ever comes to market is correct. It would in fact be worth going through the /. archives to precisely quantify just how few "on the market in the next three-to-five years" predictions come true. My bet is fewer than 1%, possibly as low as 0.

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  15. we already have that... by Madman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why re-invent the wheel, just skin a few politicians.

  16. Proposed rename by gman003 · · Score: 2

    "SLIPS" sounds boring. Plus, it's the wrong word type - it look like a verb, but it's trying to be a noun. Not going to take off.

    I propose the name "lawyerite", after the second-slipperiest material known to mankind.

  17. Neverwet by data2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have a look at http://www.neverwet.com/ They also have some amazing case studies showing off what the material can do, and where some use cases are.

  18. Re:Accident waiting to happen... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you look at the top surface of an aircraft's wings(large airliners anyway) there are a variety of marked walkways with various messages to the effect of "ONLY WALK INSIDE THE LINES. NO, NOT THERE YOU MORON!" in large print, presumably to keep somebody from putting a foot through something delicate or falling off and cracking on the tarmac.

    I assume that, in this use case, they'd coat the rest of the wing and either ignore or otherwise deal with the service walkways.

  19. Even Better! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    Not only does this extraordinarily slippery substance have a wide variety of possible uses, it can only be created by grinding and distilling PR flacks and advertising executives!

  20. The Teflon effect by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So... if this material is so slippery, how are they going to get it to stick to the surfaces they want to make more slippery?
    This is sort of like "I've just invented an acid so strong it will eat through ANYTHING! It's right over there in that bottle... oh shit!"

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    1. Re:The Teflon effect by Shotgun · · Score: 2

      Very much like oilite bearings.

      Granular brass is pressed into the shape of the bearing. Oil is then forced through it, infusing all the little nooks and voids that are left by the pressing process.

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  21. Re:Not for cooking sadly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What about toilets, showers, sinks...

  22. Griswold! by MrMonty · · Score: 3, Funny

    Be careful if you're thinking of applying this to your snow sled.

  23. The first beta test by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

    I found a video of one of the first tests of this material. They sprayed it on the bottom of a sled so they could measure how much faster it could get down the hill. The results are fairly impressive.

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  24. windshield coating? by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2

    I put "rainX" on my cars' windshield and the visor of my motorcycle helmet. Maybe this material will be usable for that sort of application as well? Yes, UV light is bad, but I have to re-apply rainX every week or two as well, so it might be an improvement.

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  25. Re:Not for cooking sadly by rjstanford · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remind me not to eat a meal that you've cooked.

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  26. Re:just hurry up and do it by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's full of Santorum!

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  27. Environmental impact by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Specifically, one wonders about the environmental impact--how hard must this stuff be *to clean* when it gets stuck on something, for example? If we put it on a hundred million bottles a year, how will that impact the environment?

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    1. Re:Environmental impact by BlueParrot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Specifically, one wonders about the environmental impact--how hard must this stuff be *to clean* when it gets stuck on something, for example? If we put it on a hundred million bottles a year, how will that impact the environment?

      Slippery doesn't mean it is hard. Notice how teflon is fairly non-stick, but you can still scratch it quite easily with any metal utensil. In the same way I kinda suspect you will be able to just scrub this stuff away. It is also likely to be sensitive to temperature and some chemicals.

      It is REALLY hard to make a material which will resist corrosion from alkaline solutions as well as acid, heat , scratching , fracture and so on all at the same time. People that design satellites, space probes or nuclear reactors additionally have to deal with intense radiation that can alter the chemical properties.

      Then there is photo-damage. Many organic materials degrade under exposure to sunlight. You got oxidation to worry about, redox reactions with salts and other ionic compounds. If the material is porous then small molecules can diffuse into it and weaken it from the inside.

      Basically you will not be able to make a material I cannot find a way to dissolve or destroy. Granted, if you put something quite tough onto a very sensitive fabric, I may not be able to get rid of it without destroying the cloth. There's no need for super-slippery materials for this however. Just rub some used motor oil into your clothes and they are pretty much permanently ruined.

  28. Re:New Teflon by hjf · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm tired of this bullshit articles. I mean, kudos to the guy who came up with this, and I'm sure it works great in a lab, but in real life it probably is just as good as teflon. And as someone who actually cooks, I can tell you that teflon is overrated.

    You know what's a good non-stick surface? Take a good ol regular steel pan, the black ones. Rub it with cooking oil, and leave it to burn. You get a cloud of white smoke (man, a tiny bit of oil goes a long way!). When it's done, you have a layer of burnt oil that has penetrated every pore in the steel surface. BAM! Instant "teflon", wash your pan thoroughly with manual dishwashing detergent (don't use a dishwasher machine, it will take the layer off), and you're good to cook.

    This is how pans and pots and everything has been "cured" for centuries, and works perfectly. It's how you treat a wok when you buy it, and it's what happens to your grill over time.

    Wanna test it? Try frying an egg. On brand new, pristine condition Teflon, the egg won't stick. After a few uses the teflon surface gets microscopic scratches, and the egg starts sticking. On burnt oil? It never sticks. And every time you cook, some oil refills the new scratches so it auto-protects itself.

  29. Toothpaste is where it's at by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    Forget all the condiments, what really needs different packaging is toothpaste. The current solution is wasteful and a major PITA. Toothpaste should be sold in big syringes (think caulk gun) that go into wall-mounted holders in the bathroom. Give it a crank, some toothpaste comes out. Then it's easy, no tube-rolling crap involved, and a toothpaste cylinder could last over a year - much more eco-friendly and easier to recycle than a shitload of dumb little tubes.

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    1. Re:Toothpaste is where it's at by modecx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Get a pack of these things. I believe that I found mine at home and garden show--and it's just a damned nice little invention.

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  30. Frank Herbert fixed it for you by gadget+junkie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I distinctly recall that in the original Dune novel, , Paul Atreides is impressed by the frictionless containers used by the Freemen to hold water, and Dune was written in 1965. Nice to see reality catch up to science fiction.

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  31. Engines? by pak9rabid · · Score: 2

    What about using this to line the inside of engine blocks to reduce the friction between the pistons/ piston rings and the block? Sort of an improved version of Fiber Reinforced Metal (FRM) lining that Honda has been using in most of their DOHC VTEC engines.

  32. Re:I'm confused by jo_ham · · Score: 2

    If they have anyone as cynical as that working there, they'll just make the bottle smaller, like they did with Innocent Smoothies, which are now down to 750mL cartons instead of 1L. Price is unaffected, of course.

  33. Re:Only one way to be sure... by DikSeaCup · · Score: 3, Funny

    Um ...

    "and girl!"

  34. Too late by PPH · · Score: 2

    Silvio Berlusconi could have used this last week.

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  35. Re:New Teflon by BlueParrot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Take a good ol regular steel pan,

    Better yet, cast iron.

    I hate Teflon pans, you have to cuddle them like a fragile little creature or they get scratched. In comparison you can scrub the cast iron ones with steel wool or even sand blaster them ( yes really ) and all it takes to get them back to pristine condition afterwards is a drop of veg oil.

  36. Re:New trojans have that problem already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm, she didn't mention that to me.

  37. Disregard that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should just use politicians; you know, after grinding them up into a thin, tasteless paste.

  38. some observations from reading the paper by snoop.daub · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just a couple points I want to make:

    - Nowhere in the paper is there anything about using this stuff in ketchup bottles. I'm sure the researchers seized on this when they got interviewed as a simple way to explain lyophobicity to a general audience, the effect of which was to make "getting all the ketchup out of the bottle" the only thing anyone remembers. Typical.

    - As for the significance of the research, there has been a ton of work in the last, oh, say 10-20 years on superhydrophobic surfaces, which have texture on the scale of a few nm that prevents water or other high surface tension liquids from penetrating into these tiny cracks. The water drops energetically prefer to remain as spherical as possible and so the liquid is repelled. This doesn't work with low surface tension liquids like light oils because it would rather penetrate inside the texturing than stay in a roughly spherical drop. The neat advance in this work is the addition of a low surface tension liquid which is introduced into the textured Teflon or fluorinated silane surface and repels both water and oil. They can use lots of different chemicals for the liquid, so as they continue the research they will find that some resist high heat, others are bio-inert, etc etc. so there are many possible applications.

  39. Toilets? by larsbars · · Score: 2

    I remember the Moties in The Mote in God's Eye building a "toilet" that never needed cleaning.