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EU Targets Facebook's Ad System

redletterdave writes "The European Commission plans to put a stop to the way Facebook gathers information about its users, including their political opinions, religious beliefs, whereabouts and sexual preferences, and how the social network sells that information for commercial purposes. A new EC Directive aims to ban targeted advertising unless users specifically allow it, and to amend the current European data protection laws to ensure consistency in how offending sites are dealt with across the EU. If the European Commission has its way, Facebook would suffer big losses in advertising dollars that fund its site, which would further damage the company's plans to go public next year. Facebook has defended itself, claiming its advertisers target wide demographics like age and location, rather than specific individuals. The Palo Alto, Calif.-based company denies outright that it misuses or mishandles user information."

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  1. those europeans... by clavo-t · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those Europeans doesn't understand the right of an American company to do what they want wherever they want

  2. You can opt out by Moheeheeko · · Score: 5, Funny
    under options>settings>some data>settings options>options settings>user data>user data settings>user data settings options>ad's data>ad's data options

    Is that hard?

    1. Re:You can opt out by similar_name · · Score: 4, Informative

      Don't forget to block Facebook on your computer. Since every website that has a Facebook Like button or other widget loads that widget from Facebook. Facebook still knows many of the sites visited from your IP. Of course the same is true for Google widgets/ads and pretty much any widget.

    2. Re:You can opt out by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 4, Informative
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    3. Re:You can opt out by Bucky24 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I use Ghostery for Chrome. Works like a charm-I haven't seen a Facebook like button in almost a month.

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  3. The Internet should not be regulated by Hentes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not just Facebook, many other companies like Google do this. But although this regulation has good intentions, like all attempts at regulating the Internet it will be counterproductive and unenforceable. The Internet is based on anarchy, that's what made it big and drives it today. Securing their data is the duty of the users.

    1. Re:The Internet should not be regulated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is not regulation of the Internet. This is regulation of advertising.

    2. Re:The Internet should not be regulated by forkfail · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What about Facebook's constantly morphing privacy and security policies? How can the user protect their data from that?

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    3. Re:The Internet should not be regulated by SkunkPussy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      specifically the fact that it has become common practice for sites to treat opt-out as informed consent, when its well known that if opt-in was in place extremely low numbers would opt-in.

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    4. Re:The Internet should not be regulated by mmcuh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't use Facebook, and occasionally venture out of the basement?

    5. Re:The Internet should not be regulated by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Securing their data is the duty of the users.

      I don't think you understand the power of data mining. Humans are very, very bad at performing inference on many variables. Computers are very, very good at it. It's true that people have a responsibility to safeguard their own privacy, but that's no reason we should have artificial intelligence programs scanning people's every online move to infer as much as possible about them. That's fucking scary, and it's scary that you don't think it's scary.

  4. It's ironic that in "socialist" Europe... by forkfail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... steps are taken to ensure that Big Brother doesn't get too big.

    While here in the US, those who most love to cite Orwell also tend to want there to be no limits to what corporations can do, even when it's the corporations (far more so than the government) that are filling the power niches.

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    1. Re:It's ironic that in "socialist" Europe... by dave420 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's only ironic if you don't know what socialism is...

    2. Re:It's ironic that in "socialist" Europe... by forkfail · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem is, the end result of an unregulated free market is a monopoly, and without the counterbalance of government, corporations fill the role of government, and acquire the powers accorded to governments by the people. However, with this end result, there is no voting them out of office, and no one left to make laws to reign them in.

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    3. Re:It's ironic that in "socialist" Europe... by forkfail · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just as socialism can lead to totalitarianism, so can capitalism.

      Totalitarianism is the result of the concentration of power. If this is at the hands of a socialist government, you get the USSR. If at the hands of a corporate state, you get Germany in 1938.

      It's about balance. And those who oppose all government in the US (sometimes for good reasons) never seem to have another counterbalance to growing corporate power. Remember, the second part of the famous quote about "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is that "men form governments to ensure these rights".

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  5. Re:More info here by rainmouse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If they keep this up I might join you. The USA will probably make facebook accounts mandatory so the NSA can track us better.

    Yes despite all the terrible press the EU gets especially in the UK, there are some nice things coming out of it like forcing mobile phone companies to all use mini-usb chargers. Sometimes I wish England would stop dicking about in EU and actually commit to something bigger than themselves for reasons other than personal greed.

  6. People don't understand facebook by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    To understand facebook it might help to use google as an analogy.

    Google is an advertising company that happens to provide services that inspire people to see the ads that they sell.

    Facebook is a data mining company that happens to provide services that inspire people to provide the data that they sell.

    They both offer advertisements, the both do data mining. In many ways the companies are very very similar. The biggest difference is the interface that is presented to the public. They both offer most of their services in exchange for what they need to sell to make a living.

    If you don't want to pay the price than don't take the service they offer. Or, just click the buttons to avoid telling the world about the things you'd rather the whole world not know.

    /not a facebook fan and thinks people waste way too much time on it

  7. Re:Why would FB care anyhow? by dave420 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You don't have a clue about the EC if you claim that. Stop reading the Daily Mail and start reading actual newspapers.

  8. Easy opt-out by kelemvor4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Adblock+ works perfectly well for facebook just like it does for most other sites. I suppose an opt-in system is better, but adblock covers pretty much all websites while this half measure covers only facebook.

  9. The best way to avoid facebook getting your info by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best way to avoid facebook getting your info:

    DO NOT SIGN UP FOR FACEBOOK.

    Yes, they have alternate ways of tracking you and getting your information- but if you don't sign up for facebook you get more spare time, and less privacy stolen.

    If you already are a member- quit now before you give away some other facet of your life.

    Honestly- we all know how evil they are by now- so why do people keep using them? Is it really worth giving away every piece of information of your life just to play crappy games (that most slashdotters could write a better version of in an evening).

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  10. You're not facebook's customer people... by drachenfyre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously. If you aren't paying for it, you aren't the customer. You're the product being sold.

  11. Re:Nanny State! by Sique · · Score: 3, Insightful

    According to your logic, we should get rid of the police, the justice and the military, because protecting yourself and punishing perpetrators is solely your responsibility.

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  12. Re:Why would FB care anyhow? by Bucky24 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not about to make a statement like GP did, mostly because I don't believe that the EU will collapse anytime soon, but I also am ignorant of its workings. So care to enlighten us?

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  13. Re:Best thing from the EU is the plane to NZ by gmhowell · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've chosen Brazil...

    I'm not sure that's an improvement.

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  14. EU Law and Court by andersh · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's simple. The EU is similar to the US Federal government. The member countries are subject to EU law where applicable, they have signed treaties to that effect.

    If a member country does not apply the relevant law correctly, charges will be brought before the The Court of Justice of the European Union.

    If the member state loses the case it will be subject to punitive measures until it corrects the situation. There is a lot to lose for the member country in question.