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Mozilla's 3 Big Bets To Keep the Web Open
GMGruman writes "Savio Rodrigues writes that Google's latest agreement with Mozilla will ironically fund three new areas of competition between Google and Mozilla — areas that users and open source advocates should cheer on as they will make the Web both better and more open. The alternative, he says, is more control by the likes of Google, Facebook, and Apple."
dickbag move dude. dickbag move.
Since the summary didn't provide this, the allegedly large bets are:
1. An alternative to Android
2. An alternative to OpenID
3. An App store
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Whoa, did I just step in a universe warp? I remember reading that previous article as them signing a contract with Microsoft and switching to Bing. Where did all the zeppelins go?
The alternative, he says, is more control by the likes of Google, Facebook, and Apple.
What? Apple? I know that dropping the "Apple-bomb" in any discussion helps to generate page-views, but what? Apple controlling the internet? I can understand Google, to say the least. I can understand Facebook as well. They both are a huge part of the internet but Apple? Apple supports (heavily) an open source browser engine... Ah... Wait... I see. They support webkit which is the foundation of Safari and Chrome (you know, Chrome, which is kicking Firefox's ass right now) as well is most mobile browsers, all of which compete directly with Firefox. Sorry. Bias clearly noted. As you were...
What Google and Mozilla declined to disclose, reports AllThingsD's Kara Swisher, is that Google will pay just under $300 million per year to be the default choice in Mozillla's Firefox browser, a huge jump from its previous arrangement, due to competing interest from both Yahoo and Microsoft. Sources said this total amount - just under $1 billion - was the minimum revenue guarantee for delivering search queries garnered from consumers using Firefox. Google's main rival in the bid, sources said, was Microsoft's Bing search service."
It doesn't mean what you think it means. Please, "ironically" has been massacred enough already. Let's this word rest for a couple of decades, unless you are one of the two people in the world that actually uses it appropriately.
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You're just saying that!
Google is under a great deal of scrutiny of late and anything they can do to show they are benevolent overseers will go a long way in allaying some of the current concerns. The fact they also benefit with all those FireFox users searches doesn't heart either.
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2. An alternative to OpenID
http://xkcd.com/927/
It doesn't mean what you think it means. Please, "ironically" has been massacred enough already. Let's this word rest for a couple of decades, unless you are one of the two people in the world that actually uses it appropriately.
Ironically, by drawing peoples attention to the word without providing them an explanation of how it ought to be used, YA_Python_dev exacerbated the problem and increased his own suffering...
Plus he threw everyone who uses that expression under the bus. Literally.
It doesn't mean what you think it means. Please, "Literally" has been massacred enough already. Let's this word rest for a couple of decades, unless you are one of the two people in the world that actually uses it appropriately.
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NOPE! See, we're not a monopoly! We're HELPING the competition compete!
Mozilla's demo for BrowserID is myfavoritebeer.org.
I went to the site and clicked the button that says, "Sign In"
The only thing that happened was that the Sign In button grayed out.
Is this some cookie thing? If so, they fail on the privacy they claim to respect better than OpenID.
Does Mozilla compete with Google in web search market, web ads market, web office suites market, ...?
This one's unrelated to any "monopoly" and "competition" (though it helps google with some part of web search share)
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I think the big question will be, how do you make apps for Boot 2 Gecko? Will they be similar to Android apps? Also, I don't mean this as a joke, but would Boot 2 Gecko mean that Richard Stallman could own a cellphone?
P.S. I recently experimented with Chrome and Opera. But I am back to Firefox because it is just better. Chrome eats memory like crazy without being so fast. Frankly Chrome is also buggier. And the incognito mode is leaky.
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Mozilla people have this strange vision that they can replace everything (OSs, Desktop, Apps, Cellphone and tablet UIs, etc) with HTML5, JavaScript and nothing else. While Im sure that many developers like JavaScript and that HTML5 brings several great features to the open web, most of us programmers definitely DONT want to use it to write all sorts of applications and games. JS+HTML5 are not a silver bullet or general purpose enough. The recent resurgence of native applications is proof of this.
Unless Mozilla releases its own advertising network or office suite, it isn't competing with Google. Frankly, anyone who even believed for a second that Google would let the search deal with Mozilla expire doesn't understand Google at all. Google has one main directive: Increase usage of Google **websites** to increase **advertising revenue**. Ending a deal with a major browser to provide the default search engine is completely adverse Google's business plan. You better believe that if Google could, they'd pay Microsoft to make IE's default search engine Google's.
Chrome isn't a business model. It is a tool Google is using to influence every other browser and the web. By making a fast, standards-based browser, and influencing other browsers to follow their example, they make general internet usage--and by extension ALL Google sites--work better. And if Google sites work better, users will spend more time using them.... will see more ads... will use Google Docs... will increase Google's revenue.
Comparing 2011's Google/Chrome to 1997's Microsoft/IE is a false dichotomy. Microsoft thought it could control the web to lock people into proprietary software. Google wants to speed up the web to get people to use it even more then they already do.
> How do you make apps for Boot 2 Gecko?
Just like you make websites.
There will be some sort of APIs for doing things that need expanded privileged, but those will be proposed for standardization just like any web API.
Richard Stallman refuses to use credit cards for anything because he doesn't want the government tracking his purchases. I don't think having a free (as in speech) OS on a phone will make any difference. Unless it was built by himself with free hardware using a free network.
No, it's the fact that Apple has a damn-near monopoly on mobile purchases, which are done in their walled garden. This is a big area of user activity, and will become a much bigger area of economic activity. Apple, through iTunes, matters to the Internet. In a bad way, unfortunately.
And why is that? You only buy from Apple's "garden" if you already own an Apple device. And Apple doesn't even sell a plurality of mobile devices, to say nothing of a majority.
Apple dominates mobile purchasing not because it locks people in, but in spite of it. Because every other digital marketplace is a disaster. Only Amazon comes close, and it's still getting its stuff together.
Firefox needs to die and start over. This is a good thing for most software. I think the Mozilla Foundation should start over and develop a new browser with a new name. Firefox takes up too much memory, it seems to be they aren't coming up with new efficient code, they are instead just caching everything. I dream about the good old days with internet explorer 2. In fact I think they need to come out with multiple browser, browsers for different users and uses. How about a security enhance browser for doing your banking. A browser specifically for multimedia viewing. A browser optimized for playing web games. A browser that doesn't support videos and is designed for reading with faster loading times. Maybe even a text only browser. A browser designed for low memory. No one tool can do it all. Having separate specialized tools is always the path to greater efficacy and efficiency.
As far as Google Chrome goes I don't trust it. The biggest feature a browser can offer is protecting my privacy and Google's only makes money by doing the opposite. Also notice how Firefox has only gotten worse during the years they were backed by Google.
A new push for "apps" just when HTML5 was going to lower the boundaries between applications and web sites?
An easier way for web sites to identify me?
I know I'm grossly over-simplifying, and there are positive aspects for each of the three "bets" that I'm not listing here, but still I don't know if I'm 100% sold to those ideas. Or to the fact that they should be a priority for open source developers.
the difference between "competition" and "collusion". the big guys are simply agreeing on how to divide the pie