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Do E-Readers Spell the Demise Of Traditional Schooling?

Attila Dimedici writes "I came across a an article this morning that suggests that the Nook and the Kindle have changed things in such a way that schools are becoming obsolete. His premise is that the ideal way to teach children is by a tutor ..., [and] the Nook and the Kindle have allowed large amounts of written material on many different subjects to become accessible enough that parents can tutor their children at a price that just about everyone can afford." The author is a bit off-base on the nature of the public schooling, but easy access to resources like Project Gutenberg and Wikibooks certainly removes some barriers to self-study and the limitations of the 20+ child classroom.

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  1. Sureeeeee by mustPushCart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yea this will replace tutors just like books have replaced tutors since days of yore. EReaders are great, they may replace books someday but when it comes to education, the biggest barrier is getting kids to pickup a book/e-reader not how much space they occupy.

    1. Re:Sureeeeee by Galestar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yea this will replace tutors

      The article is talking about replacing traditional schooling methods (ie classrooms+lectures etc), not replacing tutors. The article is talking about MORE tutors - in short, you completely missed the point of the article.

      Personally I believe lectures will soon be a thing of the past. Teachers should be spending their efforts actually interacting with students rather than a one-way recitation of material, which can be accomplished through video lectures (ie the guy from Khan Academy is a much better lecturer than 90% of teachers out there).

      Congratulations on first post though

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    2. Re:Sureeeeee by bemymonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It'll prevent kids forgetting their $subject book every few days... and cause less back pain. Not much more though.

    3. Re:Sureeeeee by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...the Nook and the Kindle have allowed large amounts of written material on many different subjects to become accessible enough that parents can tutor their children
        at a price that just about everyone can afford."

      I guess this guy thinks that the public library (and inter-library) system, the used book market, or even the internet, was never affordable enough (or convenient enough) for most homeschooling parents.

    4. Re:Sureeeeee by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought about doing that when I had the opportunity, but decided I'd develop chronic back pain as a teenager by unnecessarily lugging my 3e D&D core rulebooks to school every day instead. Worked out pretty well.

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    5. Re:Sureeeeee by mustPushCart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I feel the points are still valid. The e-reader is verrrrry specific in what it does and it replaces books. If video tutorials were better, traditional schooling methods would have been replaced by the time computers became prolific in the classrooms, or when laptops started getting real cheap but they haven't. Perhaps the e-readers are getting bookworms thinking about the benifits of technology and that is having a trickle down effect? Im not sure. I do agree that the method of schooling you described in your comment is better though, I just dont see how e-readers can enable it any more than the tech that has been available for 15+ years.

      Thanks, i never get fp!

    6. Re:Sureeeeee by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's no such thing as a video tutorial, or at least most things that claim to be such are actually lectures. A tutorial is an interactive discussion between a teacher and a small number of students.

      Yes, it can be done via intermessengers and skypecams, but it requires considerably more manpower (and skilled manpower at that) than The Teaching Company's[1] "shoot & 'bute" model.

      [1] This not an insult to TTC; I've found some of their material to be entertaining and informative. But when I put my hand up to ask a question the prof never picks me.

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    7. Re:Sureeeeee by Tokolosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because we are spending twice as much per child in real terms as we were 15 years ago, with no discernible improvement in outcome.

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  2. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    or maybe No.

    I Love How Complex Problems Always Have Simple Yes/No Answers.

  3. That depends! by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is free day care included with an E-Reader?

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  4. The problem is the parents by IAmR007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lot of parents just want to dump their kids off at school and let them do the parenting. Unless there's some type of supervision, I don't see how this could work well.

  5. Everything is entirely different now! by Xugumad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, you couldn't do this previously using the Internet, only e-readers make this feasible. Before that, the distance to the library clearly made this entirely impossible.

    No, new shiny technology of the day has not changed everything. Parents who may have struggled to build a teaching plan yesterday will still struggle even if you give them a Kindle. Most families will still need both parents to work these days, anyway.

  6. So... by Spad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who exactly is going to be doing this tutoring? Parents with nothing better to do all day, perhaps? Maybe one of the private tutors currently working, of which I'm sure there are plenty to meet demand. What about letting the kids just teach themselves? It's not as if they'll just spend their time screwing around instead of working.

    Schools aren't just there because we want to give kids a sub-standard education, they're there because they're the only practical way to provide education to large numbers of children.

    1. Re:So... by Edzilla2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet students are usually the ones doing most of the protesting.

  7. Depends on what "traditional schooling" is by Lumpio- · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If "traditional schooling" means burying your desk/shelf/whatever in a lot of physical, printed books, yes. Otherwise, no. Physical books are the only thing e-book readers might replace, and while they may do that, that alone is not going to change education as we know it.

  8. TFA is flamebait by rohan972 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's having to live on one income that stops most families home educating, not the cost of educational materials. I've never heard anyone say they would home school but don't because they can't access educational material.

    That and the fact that most people don't want to home school. I predict that the nook and kindle will have negligible impact on home schooling numbers. My kids are home schooled without a nook or kindle.

    TFA is flamebait, an anti-school piece, not a technology piece. Not really news for nerds.

    1. Re:TFA is flamebait by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think your child also learns better with someone who is not his parent. I see the kinds of things my son is capable of learning from third parties when I can't get him to tie his shoes without an argument and it only reinforces this.

      I wish I could afford a personal tutor but then again their are social aspects of school, even the negative ones, that teach lessons at least as valuable as some of the academic ones.

  9. It was the Internet by jprupp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's the Internet that changed the way we access information for our own betterment. In most companies no one cares anymore about your credentials as long as you're capable of performing the required tasks. The school - college - university system that was the means to get started in a career in the 20th century has been eroded from the top: It's universities and colleges that are losing relevance. School is still somewhat relevant, but I wonder how long will that last. More unconventional ways of learning that leverage technological advances like the Internet, ereaders, tablets, and possible future advances as well, will surely come to erode more of the current practices in education.

    Intellectual property must be rendered obsolete for the Internet can reach its full potential, and for these advances in learning and education to materialize.

  10. Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While at university, in the Discrete Mathematics course, I had this professor who made this strange type of maths easy and fun to learn.

    It is what introduced me to what computer science is all about, and how to analyze problems. This type of course cannot be properly delivered via 10" screens. Nothing can replace that face to face human touch.

    1. Re:Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This type of course cannot be properly delivered via 10" screens. Nothing can replace that face to face human touch.

      Could you expand upon this, like maybe a "why"? People who already agree with you will see it as preaching to the choir, people who don't, like myself, are mystified.

      Is it a resolution thing like you cannot read the blackboard for video lectures? Language barrier?

      Note I took discrete math a decade or so ago from a genuine professor (not a TA) and I also enjoyed it greatly, but I can't understand what mysterious force would intercede were a camera and TV placed in my line of sight.

      It sounds like the biological concept of vitalism, or perhaps the catholic concept of bishops laying on hands down thru the ages when a new priest is made. I don't subscribe to magickal thought that merely placing silicon and glass in my line of sight would have ruined my experience.

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    2. Re:Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can name two of those mysterious forces: "feedback" and "immersion"

      Examples:

      Students fall asleep en masse --> a good teacher tries to be less boring
      Student doesn't pay attention -> student is reminded by the teacher to concentrate on the subject
        and likewise, beeing physically at a place helps to focus on what's going on there, espescially if that place is dedicated to a task. (Like schools, offices, churches..)

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  11. No! by trydk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This assumption goes wrong in a number of places, of which some obvious are:

    1. Parents have the time to school their children
    2. Parents have the inclination to do it
    3. Parents have the capability to do it. (How many know parents whose maths is non-existent or whose spelling is beyond comprehension?)
    4. The parent/child relationship works towards learning and not against it. (Think obstinate teenager here.)


    I am sure there would be many other problems too, like very few parents have learned the tips and tricks a teacher has.

    So in my humble opinion, it will not work!

  12. Math and Science ? No Chance. by jimbrooking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have tried to read a couple of science-type books on my Kindle. I find when you have to back-reference a previous page containing an equation or diagram that's important to what follows in the book, you often need to refer back to a previous page. On a Kindle this process is complex, irksome, disruptive and slow. There is nothing (yet?) on a Kindle that will replace little slips of paper (or - horrors - dog-ears) used as bookmarks for important predecessor material.

  13. Electronic tutors; eTutors by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Games and A.Is which teach kids best according to their abilities using the most effective teaching strategies, backed up by human teachers.

    Motivation is a problem, but it's a problem with kids sitting at desks in schools.

    http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/polovina/learnpyramid/about.htm

    I'm not sure I'd call what we have just now as "providing education".

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  14. Yeah, right!? by kenh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Asinine.

    The author has a serious problem with public school teachers that borders on the obsessive, and clouds all reasonable discussion with him on this subject, it would seem.

    The problem in schooling isn't teacher salaries, administrative overhead, the cost of school construction, etc. it really has to do with the basics (and while I'm no fan of public school teachers, they are but one piece of a much bigger puzzle).

    We've had free lending libraries since the time of Franklin, and to imagine that by somehow taking books off a shelf and injecting them into a shiny electronic device will somehow get kids to read and read and read for 5-10 years is just silly.

    Homeschooling is not a new phenomenon, it's how people used to learn things. People homeschool their children for many reasons, teacher salaries isn't typically the main reason - either because the parents want a faith-based education for their children, or they feel the public schools wouldn't benefit their child, OR the parents simply think they "know better", which may or may not be true.

    There are many, many subjects that require more than simply "reading a book, writing an essay" to impart mastery. I'm reminded of the scene in Good Will Hunting where Robin William's character dresses down Matt Damon's character and explains "living a life" as opposed to reading about other people's lives in books.

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  15. Something is entirely different now! by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mom, I could have sworn that I had 1984 on my Kindle! How am I supposed to do my homework now?

    Back when I was in school, if you had a book in your house when you went to sleep, it was still there when you woke up.

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