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Do E-Readers Spell the Demise Of Traditional Schooling?

Attila Dimedici writes "I came across a an article this morning that suggests that the Nook and the Kindle have changed things in such a way that schools are becoming obsolete. His premise is that the ideal way to teach children is by a tutor ..., [and] the Nook and the Kindle have allowed large amounts of written material on many different subjects to become accessible enough that parents can tutor their children at a price that just about everyone can afford." The author is a bit off-base on the nature of the public schooling, but easy access to resources like Project Gutenberg and Wikibooks certainly removes some barriers to self-study and the limitations of the 20+ child classroom.

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  1. Sureeeeee by mustPushCart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yea this will replace tutors just like books have replaced tutors since days of yore. EReaders are great, they may replace books someday but when it comes to education, the biggest barrier is getting kids to pickup a book/e-reader not how much space they occupy.

    1. Re:Sureeeeee by Galestar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yea this will replace tutors

      The article is talking about replacing traditional schooling methods (ie classrooms+lectures etc), not replacing tutors. The article is talking about MORE tutors - in short, you completely missed the point of the article.

      Personally I believe lectures will soon be a thing of the past. Teachers should be spending their efforts actually interacting with students rather than a one-way recitation of material, which can be accomplished through video lectures (ie the guy from Khan Academy is a much better lecturer than 90% of teachers out there).

      Congratulations on first post though

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    2. Re:Sureeeeee by bemymonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It'll prevent kids forgetting their $subject book every few days... and cause less back pain. Not much more though.

    3. Re:Sureeeeee by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...the Nook and the Kindle have allowed large amounts of written material on many different subjects to become accessible enough that parents can tutor their children
        at a price that just about everyone can afford."

      I guess this guy thinks that the public library (and inter-library) system, the used book market, or even the internet, was never affordable enough (or convenient enough) for most homeschooling parents.

    4. Re:Sureeeeee by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought about doing that when I had the opportunity, but decided I'd develop chronic back pain as a teenager by unnecessarily lugging my 3e D&D core rulebooks to school every day instead. Worked out pretty well.

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    5. Re:Sureeeeee by mustPushCart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I feel the points are still valid. The e-reader is verrrrry specific in what it does and it replaces books. If video tutorials were better, traditional schooling methods would have been replaced by the time computers became prolific in the classrooms, or when laptops started getting real cheap but they haven't. Perhaps the e-readers are getting bookworms thinking about the benifits of technology and that is having a trickle down effect? Im not sure. I do agree that the method of schooling you described in your comment is better though, I just dont see how e-readers can enable it any more than the tech that has been available for 15+ years.

      Thanks, i never get fp!

    6. Re:Sureeeeee by wisty · · Score: 2

      Schools have had TVs and video players for decades - delivery in not the issue.

      The internet has given more feedback to video producers (especially that Khan guy), and helped identify what is popular, but it's not like no-one ever thought to put classes on TV before.

    7. Re:Sureeeeee by zippthorne · · Score: 2

      Homeschooling only works if you can afford the loss of income of one of the parents (or the time-equivalent of one of the parents, or the split of work-hours such that neither parent gets to see the other one most days...).

      Which brings to mind another question - productivity is now many times what it was when the country was founded - we're down to less than 2% of the workforce needed for agriculture from something like 80%, and that's not even the industry with the most significant gains.

      So.. why DO so many families need two full-time incomes just to make ends meet, or even to live in a modest amount of comfort?

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    8. Re:Sureeeeee by Galestar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the main barrier to having video lectures at the moment is cultural.
      The current system involves in-class lectures, with homework done at home. If you switch that, have the students watch lectures as homework, and solve problems in class, the teacher (and other students) are actually available when the students need them most - while trying to solve the problems. It also allows greater flexibility for the students to "learn at their own pace" - students will have more options as to which lectures to watch rather than the whole class forced to watch the same lecture at the same time.

      I could go on, but I think these guys discuss it much more concisely than I do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtmdiPUGGe8

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    9. Re:Sureeeeee by Galestar · · Score: 2

      You can't just change the delivery - but the video delivery enables you to change the whole way you go about education.
      This is the video that convinced me
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtmdiPUGGe8

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    10. Re:Sureeeeee by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There's no such thing as a video tutorial, or at least most things that claim to be such are actually lectures. A tutorial is an interactive discussion between a teacher and a small number of students.

      Yes, it can be done via intermessengers and skypecams, but it requires considerably more manpower (and skilled manpower at that) than The Teaching Company's[1] "shoot & 'bute" model.

      [1] This not an insult to TTC; I've found some of their material to be entertaining and informative. But when I put my hand up to ask a question the prof never picks me.

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    11. Re:Sureeeeee by supercrisp · · Score: 2

      Do you really not know the answer? Real incomes have steadily declined in the U.S. for around 40 years, with a few brief upticks now and then. Since the 80s, our society has invested less and less in the basic infrastructure of society, especially schools. And also people in the U.S. have spent more and more, as frills became essentials (cable TV, cell phones, satellite TV, game consoles) and other products have become increasingly expensive, like cars. Then throw into that the declining dollar.... It's pretty simple, really, and it's talked about all the time. And government has done a poor job of addressing the problem, instead tending toward banking deregulation and free trade, both of which have tended to stifle or end investment in jobs here. Oh well. At least we do a good job of fretting other other people's sex lives, religions, etc. God knows, that's what's important.

    12. Re:Sureeeeee by Tokolosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because we are spending twice as much per child in real terms as we were 15 years ago, with no discernible improvement in outcome.

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    13. Re:Sureeeeee by timeOday · · Score: 2

      So.. why DO so many families need two full-time incomes just to make ends meet, or even to live in a modest amount of comfort?

      I'm not saying this is the whole answer, but remember, both parents always worked. Women at home weren't contributing to the GDP since no money was exchanged, but they were still doing stuff that needed done. So the economic benefit of stopping that, paying other people to do it, and getting some outside job to do instead isn't as much as we might assume, particularly if that outside job isn't very high-paid. Daycare is tax-deductible, which helps to hide this fact by shifting the balance for many families, but it doesn't shift the balance for society overall (since it is shifting the costs rather than eliminating them).

      I am not saying we can or should go back in time, much less that anybody should be forced to do anything. Definitely people should have their own choice, and besides many people don't want a huge bunch of kids (and it's not sustainable for everybody to have so many).

    14. Re:Sureeeeee by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      And the reason for all that? Income taxes. Income taxes, the 2nd worst mistake the USA has ever made, right behind slavery, has been making our manufacturing too expensive, so it has mostly all moved overseas, along with its high-paying jobs.

      WTF are you smoking, son? The income tax was instituted a hundred years ago. If there were any cause and effect, the effect would have come more than a HUNDRED YEARS LATER.

      The reason that jobs all went overseas is because different economies are different. I'm twice as rich as someone living 200 miles away in Chicago, because everything costs twice as much there. When you put your factory in a country that you can buy a meal for five cents and rent a house fof fifty bucks a month, you don't have to pay your workers as much.

      The Fair Tax calls for the abolition of the income taxes, all of them, and replaces them with a consumption tax - a Federal sales tax.

      That's regressive as hell. The poor man, the one working at WalMart or McDonalds spends every penny of his paycheck because he has to. 100% of his income is taxed. The middle class somewhat less, but the rich get off paying a tiny percentage of their income. That would be even worse than Cain's "Nein! Nein! Nein!" tax, which itself would be terribly regressive and unfair.

      A regressive tax like that would make manufacturing even more expensive.

      You get to keep all your money you earn, unlike the extremely regressive income taxes that, via the payroll taxes for social security and medicare, tax the poor at 15.3% from the 1st dollar they earn to the last, while Warren Buffet brags about paying a 10% income tax, and his share of the SS and medicare, taxes for which are capped at around $100K, amount to peanuts for him.

      So fix the tax structure. Remove all deductions and remove the FICA cieling and you not only remove the regressiveness, you increase tax revenues, which would go a long way toward paying the national debt.

      Then there's the regressive nature of the corporate income taxes

      Regressive nature? I don't think you know what "regressive taxes" means. Corporate tax doesn't impact the poor.

    15. Re:Sureeeeee by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Most classes are already taught with a lecture component and a seminar or lab part. In elementary and high school they're using in the same time block, with the teacher lecturing for a bit, then students getting a start on their homework.

      The problem with video is that it's not interactive. It makes a great study aid, and taping lectures for later review is a good thing, but it's no substitute for a live lecture where you can ask questions as it goes on.

    16. Re:Sureeeeee by EdIII · · Score: 2

      You have some points but it seems that everybody is missing the 800 pound gorilla in the room....

      suggests that the Nook and the Kindle have changed things in such a way that schools are becoming obsolete

      different subjects to become accessible enough that parents can tutor their children at a price that just about everyone can afford.

      I don't know what economy this author thinks he is in. Any parents that are still making 100k plus a year combined probably have their children in a good private school. Those are not so bad and the quality of education is higher. Especially in the top private schools that are run as hard as a Japanese prep school.

      Public schools are poorly funded with the economic collapse we are suffering, and they were not that well off before the bubble burst. The amount of money we pay for public schooling pales in comparison to the loss of income from a single parent.

      So without combined income from two parents, just how can a family afford to home school? That is what he is talking about. Which is far more intelligent than the recent article about technology replacing teachers (parents or otherwise) altogether.

      The economy is far worse than the author understands and the families that are home schooling already live in places where they can afford to do so. I would be interested to know what changes are in the percentage of home schooled children in the last 4 years. I am willing to bet that some home schooled children were enrolled in public school because it was a choice between eviction, starvation, or both.

      Home schooling has a stigma of being predominately populated with ultra religious families that want to teach a more faith based curriculum. In those circumstances I can imagine they would hold out as long as possible, but ultimately the money is going to win out. Especially when those families tend to have more than 2.5 average children.

      In any case, this won't work for the average family. Every single family I know, that is in the middle class, is a two income family. So what he proposes costs an average person's salary per year.

  2. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    or maybe No.

    I Love How Complex Problems Always Have Simple Yes/No Answers.

    1. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Looks like slashdot has got the banhammer out again. Fuck you and your lazy tabloid-style editorializing, slashdot.

      What would have been wrong with "How will traditional schooling be affected by e-readers?". Nope, the yes/no crap comes out of the cupboard.

      No wonder Taco called it a day.

  3. That depends! by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is free day care included with an E-Reader?

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    1. Re:That depends! by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      Don't be silly. That's what the TV is for.

  4. The problem is the parents by IAmR007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A lot of parents just want to dump their kids off at school and let them do the parenting. Unless there's some type of supervision, I don't see how this could work well.

    1. Re:The problem is the parents by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I don't like the sentiment of your post. The way you use the word "parenting" would seem to imply that they don't give a rats about their kids. I think quite the opposite. Sure parents who employ a full time live in nanny may be trying to palm off "parenting" but sending kids to school on the other hand is using a system we have in place to get more done.

      I think my kids would benefit from being taught by several different people.
      I think my kids would benefit from the stimulus provided by their peers.
      I think my kids would turn out quite different if they didn't receive the wide social interaction provided by their many peers.
      I'm on the fence about if I could do a better job teaching my kids than someone who does this as their day job. Sure I think I'm better than some, but not better in an all round education.
      I definitely couldn't afford the lifestyle I have if I were to take up home schooling my own kids.

      "Parenting" isn't about total time spent with a kid. It's about how you spend time with them. I say let the math teacher teach them math, but at the same time don't come home from work, grab a beer and sit down at the TV for 2 hours ignoring everything. It's the time at home where people fail at parenting, not the time spent apart.

    2. Re:The problem is the parents by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      When you don't let your kids go to school you are stunting their growth as a human being.

      Don't "let" them go to school? As in, force them to be home schooled even if they want to go to school? Well, I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate that. Or did you mean just home schooling them? If so, I doubt that. You don't need to be locked in a school building to 'grow' (whatever that means) as a human being.

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    3. Re:The problem is the parents by kenh · · Score: 2

      Parents also used to have "extra" children in case they lost a few when they were young. Nowadays parents tend to not lose as many children to disease, farming accidents, etc.

      Parenting is a 24 hour job, but that doesn't mean you have to stay with the child 24 hours a day - that's not parenting, that is, at best "hovering" and at worst "stalking".

      I'm not a fan of so-called "free range parenting" nor am I a "helicoptor parent" - for my children a balance of both is best, and the balance that works with my children may not work for your children.

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  5. Everything is entirely different now! by Xugumad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, you couldn't do this previously using the Internet, only e-readers make this feasible. Before that, the distance to the library clearly made this entirely impossible.

    No, new shiny technology of the day has not changed everything. Parents who may have struggled to build a teaching plan yesterday will still struggle even if you give them a Kindle. Most families will still need both parents to work these days, anyway.

  6. So... by Spad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who exactly is going to be doing this tutoring? Parents with nothing better to do all day, perhaps? Maybe one of the private tutors currently working, of which I'm sure there are plenty to meet demand. What about letting the kids just teach themselves? It's not as if they'll just spend their time screwing around instead of working.

    Schools aren't just there because we want to give kids a sub-standard education, they're there because they're the only practical way to provide education to large numbers of children.

    1. Re:So... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Schools are there to help keep the country working. The schools have not changed much since they were designed to produce obedient factory workers. I have some of my paperwork from third grade where I was getting in trouble for looking at other children, I should scan it and post it on my website as a badge of honor I guess. The school functions as day care so that parents can go to work for the good of the nation. It also provides indoctrination through history classes with approved texts, the manipulation of the pledge of allegiance, the aggressive maintenance of the status quo by educators and administrators alike, which leads to various forms of bullying designed to make us all alike so that we are easy to manage, interchangeable, malleable.

      Schools aren't there because we want to give kids an education, they're there to promote a fascist agenda. Oh sure, you COULD use public education to educate, but that's not what it's for in this country. The people I feel most sorry for are of course the students, the future being corrupted through today, but the people I feel second most sorry for are the instructors, who are for the most part unwitting dupes being taken advantage of by the powers that be, doing their part to keep us all mediocritized.

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    2. Re:So... by Edzilla2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet students are usually the ones doing most of the protesting.

    3. Re:So... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      It doesn't show anything of the sort. The brainwashing works on some of them, enough to produce more assholes to grow up and work for Monsanto or the RIAA and eventually gain posts inside the government where they don't just help write laws to benefit corporations, but also to pass them.

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  7. Depends on what "traditional schooling" is by Lumpio- · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If "traditional schooling" means burying your desk/shelf/whatever in a lot of physical, printed books, yes. Otherwise, no. Physical books are the only thing e-book readers might replace, and while they may do that, that alone is not going to change education as we know it.

  8. TFA is flamebait by rohan972 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's having to live on one income that stops most families home educating, not the cost of educational materials. I've never heard anyone say they would home school but don't because they can't access educational material.

    That and the fact that most people don't want to home school. I predict that the nook and kindle will have negligible impact on home schooling numbers. My kids are home schooled without a nook or kindle.

    TFA is flamebait, an anti-school piece, not a technology piece. Not really news for nerds.

    1. Re:TFA is flamebait by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think your child also learns better with someone who is not his parent. I see the kinds of things my son is capable of learning from third parties when I can't get him to tie his shoes without an argument and it only reinforces this.

      I wish I could afford a personal tutor but then again their are social aspects of school, even the negative ones, that teach lessons at least as valuable as some of the academic ones.

    2. Re:TFA is flamebait by rohan972 · · Score: 2

      I think your child also learns better with someone who is not his parent. I see the kinds of things my son is capable of learning from third parties when I can't get him to tie his shoes without an argument and it only reinforces this.

      If that is how it is for you I can see why home schooling is not for you. School is definitely designed to make kids easily manageable.

      I wish I could afford a personal tutor but then again their are social aspects of school, even the negative ones, that teach lessons at least as valuable as some of the academic ones.

      As for socialization, here's a summary of Australian research on home education.
      Socialisation
      Studies which have looked at the social experiences of home educated students indicate that the students have broad, healthy social interactions although a few students would have appreciated more interaction with peers, particularly in home education network groups. Studies have also shown that some students who have been hurt socially at school have been able to recover when home educated.


      Our department of education monitors our progress of "socializing" our kids while kids in their system commit suicide to avoid bullying. The widespread acceptance of the idea that people need to attend a government institution so they can learn to make friends is one of the most tragic examples of the damage school does to people. Such a thought should not occur to a healthy, whole human being.

  9. It was the Internet by jprupp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's the Internet that changed the way we access information for our own betterment. In most companies no one cares anymore about your credentials as long as you're capable of performing the required tasks. The school - college - university system that was the means to get started in a career in the 20th century has been eroded from the top: It's universities and colleges that are losing relevance. School is still somewhat relevant, but I wonder how long will that last. More unconventional ways of learning that leverage technological advances like the Internet, ereaders, tablets, and possible future advances as well, will surely come to erode more of the current practices in education.

    Intellectual property must be rendered obsolete for the Internet can reach its full potential, and for these advances in learning and education to materialize.

  10. Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While at university, in the Discrete Mathematics course, I had this professor who made this strange type of maths easy and fun to learn.

    It is what introduced me to what computer science is all about, and how to analyze problems. This type of course cannot be properly delivered via 10" screens. Nothing can replace that face to face human touch.

    1. Re:Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This type of course cannot be properly delivered via 10" screens. Nothing can replace that face to face human touch.

      Could you expand upon this, like maybe a "why"? People who already agree with you will see it as preaching to the choir, people who don't, like myself, are mystified.

      Is it a resolution thing like you cannot read the blackboard for video lectures? Language barrier?

      Note I took discrete math a decade or so ago from a genuine professor (not a TA) and I also enjoyed it greatly, but I can't understand what mysterious force would intercede were a camera and TV placed in my line of sight.

      It sounds like the biological concept of vitalism, or perhaps the catholic concept of bishops laying on hands down thru the ages when a new priest is made. I don't subscribe to magickal thought that merely placing silicon and glass in my line of sight would have ruined my experience.

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    2. Re:Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I can name two of those mysterious forces: "feedback" and "immersion"

      Examples:

      Students fall asleep en masse --> a good teacher tries to be less boring
      Student doesn't pay attention -> student is reminded by the teacher to concentrate on the subject
        and likewise, beeing physically at a place helps to focus on what's going on there, espescially if that place is dedicated to a task. (Like schools, offices, churches..)

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    3. Re:Nothing can replace that human touch, nothing! by colinrichardday · · Score: 2

      discreet mathematics course

      Should you be talking about discreet mathematics?

  11. No! by trydk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This assumption goes wrong in a number of places, of which some obvious are:

    1. Parents have the time to school their children
    2. Parents have the inclination to do it
    3. Parents have the capability to do it. (How many know parents whose maths is non-existent or whose spelling is beyond comprehension?)
    4. The parent/child relationship works towards learning and not against it. (Think obstinate teenager here.)


    I am sure there would be many other problems too, like very few parents have learned the tips and tricks a teacher has.

    So in my humble opinion, it will not work!

  12. Re:Inefficient by rohan972 · · Score: 2

    A family obviously can have multiple children but in most cases they will be of different age. This will slow down the older children if taught simultaneously.

    Our experience runs directly counter to this. The younger children see the older at their lessons because they are not separated off at a school. They then start learning the material so they can join in. All our younger children were doing their studies of their own initiative before school age.

  13. The key is the teacher by haggus71 · · Score: 2

    Tools like the Kindle are great to assist learning; but let's face it: the weakness/strength to learning is always the teacher. These are great as a substitute for the books/paper in the classroom, but not as a substitute for human instruction. Yes, there are a few who are able to learn from Khan Academy or from e-books alone. The vast majority, however, need that human to get them through the rough patches. Most home-schooling relies on mom and dad for that, and they tend to not be the greatest of instructors, as a whole. It's the reason most states are considering requiring parents have the same qualifications as teachers. It also eliminates the social factor for these kids. Where I am, I've seen more than a few "veal" being home-schooled. If they associate, it's with others who are home schooled. They will never be required to deal with social interactions of differing social groups until they go to college, unless they happen to be lucky enough to have a parent that forces them into these situations.

    I'm all for the elimination of the textbook industry that makes millions each year off changing a few sentences and claiming a "new edition" for which you have to pay $50-$200. Unless you have a certain physical or mental handicap, however, homeschooling offers no advantages other than raising your little baby sheltered from having to face the real world.

  14. Way off base by shoehornjob · · Score: 2

    How many parents do you know that can afford to stay home and tutor their children in place of going to school? The author of TFA also fails to understand that children learn in different ways and book learning alone is not the best way for everyone. E-readers might be a good way to supplement learning but I can't see how it could replace a teacher in a classroom setting.

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  15. More Technologist Wanking by water-and-sewer · · Score: 2

    I am bored to tears with all the "Does XXX mean the death of YYY" articles these technologist wankers drool out. It's always the same: "do computers mean the end of TV?" "Does the internet mean the end to commuting to work in your car?" "Does the Wii mean the end of Computer gaming?" and so on.

    In EVERY case, the new technology has had an impact, sometimes even a limited one, but failed to do away with the previous. And anyone that thinks a technology for displaying information (and that's all an ebook is) will do away with a fundamental societal need like formal education is a fool, a wanker, or both.

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  16. Math and Science ? No Chance. by jimbrooking · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have tried to read a couple of science-type books on my Kindle. I find when you have to back-reference a previous page containing an equation or diagram that's important to what follows in the book, you often need to refer back to a previous page. On a Kindle this process is complex, irksome, disruptive and slow. There is nothing (yet?) on a Kindle that will replace little slips of paper (or - horrors - dog-ears) used as bookmarks for important predecessor material.

  17. Electronic tutors; eTutors by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Games and A.Is which teach kids best according to their abilities using the most effective teaching strategies, backed up by human teachers.

    Motivation is a problem, but it's a problem with kids sitting at desks in schools.

    http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/polovina/learnpyramid/about.htm

    I'm not sure I'd call what we have just now as "providing education".

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  18. Yeah, right!? by kenh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Asinine.

    The author has a serious problem with public school teachers that borders on the obsessive, and clouds all reasonable discussion with him on this subject, it would seem.

    The problem in schooling isn't teacher salaries, administrative overhead, the cost of school construction, etc. it really has to do with the basics (and while I'm no fan of public school teachers, they are but one piece of a much bigger puzzle).

    We've had free lending libraries since the time of Franklin, and to imagine that by somehow taking books off a shelf and injecting them into a shiny electronic device will somehow get kids to read and read and read for 5-10 years is just silly.

    Homeschooling is not a new phenomenon, it's how people used to learn things. People homeschool their children for many reasons, teacher salaries isn't typically the main reason - either because the parents want a faith-based education for their children, or they feel the public schools wouldn't benefit their child, OR the parents simply think they "know better", which may or may not be true.

    There are many, many subjects that require more than simply "reading a book, writing an essay" to impart mastery. I'm reminded of the scene in Good Will Hunting where Robin William's character dresses down Matt Damon's character and explains "living a life" as opposed to reading about other people's lives in books.

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  19. Once again... by imakemusic · · Score: 2

    If the title of the article is a question, the answer is probably "no".

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  20. Something is entirely different now! by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Mom, I could have sworn that I had 1984 on my Kindle! How am I supposed to do my homework now?

    Back when I was in school, if you had a book in your house when you went to sleep, it was still there when you woke up.

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  21. I homeschool. by hideouspenguinboy · · Score: 2

    My kids are taught by several different people (various classes, working out a deal with a local vet clinic for a kind of 'job shadow' every week, etc) My kids gets lots of stimulus from their peers - they have friends inside and outside the classes they take, and other activities they do throughout the week with other kids. They sure could turn out different - good thing the alternative isn't locking them in a basement all day or homeschoolers would sure be in trouble! I'm not on the fence - I can do a better job of providing my child's education when possible and coordinating it when necessary - I'm convinced most parents could do the same. Money is the only legitimate barrier for most people, but based on my own experience and the experience of people I've met I think most couples can afford to have a parent stay home even if they don't think they can. For most people, it's a question of how much importance they place on being able to have a parent stay home with the children. 'Learning' isn't something that has to happen in a class room, and the idea that 30 kids listening to one adult who may or may not be qualified in the subject read from a text and ask questions is the optimal way to provide education is severely lacking in credibility. Sending the kids to school is the path of least resistance and it's 'what's done'. There are arguments for doing that but 'that's the best possible option' is a hard one to defend. School takes the form it does in our culture because of the day care aspect of it - if that weren't a factor we'd all have education that combined real experience, specialised tutors and classes, and was targeted at the learning style and interests of the child.

  22. Re: Flip the classroom... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

    > The early days of TV were full of hope for its widespread educational potential, too.

    Same thing: depends on how you use it. TV can be tremendously educational if you use it for that purpose, and it's only gotten more so with the plethora of cable channels and the convenience of DVRs. I just watched a bunch of excellent PBS documentaries about Roman, Egyptian, and Japanese history on YouTube.

    As for iPads in the classroom, that's the equivalent of letting kids watch sit-coms in school. The Khan Academy is all about e-learning, but they do NOT recommend computers in the classroom. On the contrary, students are given e-lectures as homework assignments. (In his TED talk, Khan calls this "flipping" the classroom.) Students absorb the lecture at home, at their own pace, then the next day they go through the "work" part at school where they can interact with the teacher and other students. In this way, the teacher can focus his/her energy on individual students' needs, without the headaches of trying to lecture at a pace that doesn't either bore the smart kids or lose the "challenged" kids. Students get the benefit of "on-demand" lectures... they can pause and replay any parts they don't understand, without the embarrassment of holding up the class with a "dumb" question.

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