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Sun Storms May Affect Radios, Cell Phones Today

Posted by timothy on from the going-once-going-twice-sol dept.

ABC News is one of various news outlets reporting that "Intense solar activity may affect Earth today, potentially disrupting radio and cell phone frequencies." (The Space Weather Prediction Center calls the likely effects minor, but it might be a good day to have an atlas packed in with the GPS.)

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  1. Always a great excuse by Toe,+The · · Score: 5, Funny

    When working in IT, whenever I would encounter a weird networking problem that I couldn't immediately identify, I'd suggest maybe it had something to do with sunspot activity. This usually got the affected people scratching their heads long enough that I could concentrate on actually working on the problem instead of listening to them asking me what the problem was.

    1. Re:Always a great excuse by Quanticfx · · Score: 1

      I have a feeling I would get called out on that instantly and it would create even more questions, but then again most of the non-IT people I work with are engineers are and highly technical.

    2. Re:Always a great excuse by idbeholda · · Score: 2

      What do you think the "I" in IT stands for?

    3. Re:Always a great excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's funny, until you actually encounter sub-standard shielding in memory at high altitudes...
      Then it actually IS sunspots that cause the system to fail...

    4. Re:Always a great excuse by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      Just because they're engineers and good at their specialty doesn't mean they're good with IT. Some are much better than the average user, but it's definitely more of an outlier and not the norm.

      It all goes back to the "tell them what they need to know and more only if they can comprehend it" part of IT anyway.

    5. Re:Always a great excuse by Shatrat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Internet.

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    6. Re:Always a great excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and the T stands for "inTernet"

    7. Re:Always a great excuse by Patch86 · · Score: 1

      Sunspots affect more than just IT. If you said "sunspots are playing havoc with our network" to an electrical engineer, you'd probably give him a nervous breakdown.

    8. Re:Always a great excuse by Dishevel · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I work in IT for a large cab company in California.
      When I get to work in the morning. I log in, check server status, check status of 4 different radio sites, then I go to spaceweather.com to check sunspot activity.
      With 300 Cabs running around with mobile radios and GPS there is just a lot that can go bad. Better to know.

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    9. Re:Always a great excuse by idbeholda · · Score: 1

      Well played, sir. Well played indeed.

    10. Re:Always a great excuse by bobdole369 · · Score: 1

      Have you ever had a geo-storm actually cause issues up in VHF (or are they UHF radios?)

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    11. Re:Always a great excuse by Shatrat · · Score: 1

      Things.

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    12. Re:Always a great excuse by na1led · · Score: 1

      I blame things on Static, Sunspot Activity, and Random Anomolies!

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    13. Re:Always a great excuse by na1led · · Score: 1

      The correct response would be "Electromagnetic Interference" which could be the results of Sunspot Activity.

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    14. Re:Always a great excuse by fragfoo · · Score: 1

      This explains why my WIFI signal was so shitty this morning.

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    15. Re:Always a great excuse by oneiros27 · · Score: 2

      C'mon ... at least cite the original material. From BOFH #6:

      It's friday, so I get into work early, before lunch even. The phone rings. Shit!

      I turn the page on the excuse sheet. "SOLAR FLARES" stares out at me. I'd better read up on that. Two minutes later I'm ready to answer the phone.

      "Hello?" I say.

      "WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET YOU ALL MORNING?!"

      I hate it when they shout at me early in the morning. It always puts me in a bad mood. You know what I mean.

      "Ah, yes. Well, there's been some solar activity this morning, it always disrupts electronics..." I say, sweet as a sugar pie.

      "Huh? But I could get through to my friends?!"

      "Yes, that's entirely possible, solar activity is very unpredictable in it's effects. Why last week, we had some files just dissappear from a guys account while he was working on it!"

      "Really?"

      "Straight Up! Hey, do you want me to check your account?"

      "Yes please, I've got some important stuff in there!"

      "Ok, what's your username..."

      He tells me. Honestly, it's like shooting a fish in a barrel. Twice. With an Elephant Gun. At point blank range. In the head.

      (Do I really need to tell you the clicky clicky bit?.. I think not)

      "How many files are in your account?" I ask

      "Um, well there should be about 20 in my thesis writeup, 10 or so with the data for it, and another 20 or so in a book that I'm writing"

      "Hmmm. Well, I think we caught it just in time. You've still got 2 files left... .cshrc and .login"

      "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaggggggggghhhh!"

      He sobs into the receiver a bit - it really turns my stomach.

      Now, in my case, as I work at the Solar Data Analysis Center, and most of the folks I work with have phds in solar physics, astronomy or similar, the excuse just doesn't work. (and my boss reads BOFH)

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    16. Re:Always a great excuse by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Did you used to work for the US Postal Service? When the USPS went to DHCP about 7 years ago, our DHCP pool ran out of addresses within a year. One day, I couldn't get get RIS to connect in order to install Windows. After a while, we released an address from a PC and it worked perfectly, and the other machine couldn't get an address again. Our system administrator had to call and the first thing out of the guy's mouth was about sunspots or solar flares. It was about all our SA could do not to blow his top!! I even got him years later by having the new help desk guy (my replacement) ask him if he'd ever heard of sunspots causing DHCP problems.

    17. Re:Always a great excuse by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Yeah I do the same thing except I paraphrase. I just say 'shit happens'.

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    18. Re:Always a great excuse by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      as I work at the Solar Data Analysis Center, and most of the folks I work with have phds in solar physics, astronomy or similar, the excuse just doesn't work. (and my boss reads BOFH)

      Could be worse.

      Actually, that's likely to be a pretty good sign. If your boss reads and enjoys the Good Bastard, then it's likely that s/he has a functioning sense of humour. which is a good start.

      Meanwhile ... I haven't read any Bastard for weeks, and I feel the need ...

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  2. Atlas by Artea · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the commercial airlines hear about this and inform their pilots of bring an atlas!

    1. Re:Atlas by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

      Maybe not all, but they do inform pilots who are flying across the poles -- the Earth's magnetic field deflects some space weather, but ends up concentrating the stuff at the poles (which is why the Northern/Southern Lights are strongest near the poles)

      The result is that many pilots won't fly those routes, instead taking other routes which often require an extra stop for refueling, or reducing the amount of luggage (to be brought later).

      So if you're planning on a trip that's to the other hemisphere, odds are, you're looking at delays and/or lost baggage.

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    2. Re:Atlas by QQBoss · · Score: 1

      Maybe not all, but they do inform pilots who are flying across the poles -- the Earth's magnetic field deflects some space weather, but ends up concentrating the stuff at the poles (which is why the Northern/Southern Lights are strongest near the poles)

      The result is that many pilots won't fly those routes, instead taking other routes which often require an extra stop for refueling, or reducing the amount of luggage (to be brought later).

      So if you're planning on a trip that's to the other hemisphere, odds are, you're looking at delays and/or lost baggage.

      Commercial pilots have little leeway over the routes they fly, so your statement that pilots avoid flying polar routes doesn't seem based on valid information. A better reason why polar routes aren't flown is because FAA rules require that planes never be further than a certain distance (referred to as ETOPS XXX, where XXX is the number of minutes flight time) from an airport where they can land in an emergency. Until Santa Claus opens up North Pole Field for international arrivals and departures, there just aren't many places in the Great White North where you can land a fully loaded jumbo jet year round.

      However, the rules are changing. Just in time for Christmas, Santa's shortcut was green-lighted (though, should be red-lighted in Rudolf's honor).

      http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/airlines-cleared-to-use-santas-shortcut-6281263.html

  3. You lost? by countertrolling · · Score: 5, Funny

    You need a damn GPS to find your way home now?

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    1. Re:You lost? by robot256 · · Score: 1

      Not just home. I installed a radio-transparent roof so I could get a solid lock all the way to the fridge.

  4. Aroura Borealis? by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 2

    My first thought is "I wonder if I should be on the lookout for a good Aurora Borealis tonight."

    Being that I'm in New England, the only times in my life I've seent the "Northern Lights" have been subsequent to a strong CME / Solar flare like this. /gets camera ready just in case

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  5. Um...NO!! by launchpad72 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was a weather forecaster in the USAF and just looked at the Solar Weather page and there are "NO" alerts and "NO" large solar activity. If you read the ABC page it is just a 20-40% chance was from a report Monday. Has FOX news bought this website?

    1. Re:Um...NO!! by bobdole369 · · Score: 1

      There was an earthward CME, but it packed no punch. Not many particles are making it.

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  6. Alert has been downgraded by __aaelyr464 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Chance is now about 20% for 29 December. This ABC article is a bit alarmist and unnecessarily scaring the masses.

  7. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shouldn't that be an ORACLE storm...?

  8. Thank you! by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

    Thank you Captain Obvious!

    I realize this is /., but really how is this news?

    Solar storms can interfere with radio signals, who knew?
    Oh, anyone who ever paid attention in middle school science class.

    And this on a supposedly geek "newsite".

    Sheesh!

    1. Re:Thank you! by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 1

      Are you trolling, or are you feeling pissy but are unsure of who to be angry at? The article was about current solar flares. The mention here is not to suggest that we don't know about solar flares, but to tell us that current solar flares are intense enough to be potentially disruptive.

      Your rant is rather like going to wunderground and getting pissed that they're telling you it's going to snow today because we all know what snow is.

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  9. It's not true! by derfy · · Score: 1

    It's just millions of people calling us and saying that, yes they will help The Doctor.

  10. Old News by stamour547 · · Score: 1

    I know that not everyone knows this, but this is pretty old news to us Amateur Radio operators. We have know that solar activity effects radio propogation for what must seem like forever... Just saying.

  11. Re:slow news day? by doccus · · Score: 1

    Well hey, cry wolf enough, and when we actually *do* get the 'Big one" nobody'll have unplugged anything in time ...

  12. Ham bone .. by Randy_Leatherbelly · · Score: 1

    Indeed the sun does have the main impact on the 'usability' of some bits of the radio spectrum, as do seasons, the time of day, locations, receiver interference, (man made or natural) but there's plenty of other factors too. My main worrys are (as far as the sun and our electrical systems are concerned are) Satellites, as more and more, formerly terrestrial communications are now becoming space based, these are likely going to be the first items to ' cook ' - yes i know they can 'harden' them, but the systems that civilization depends upon, rely's upon them, and as far as i am concerned, no reason is good enough for critical systems to internet-linked. lets talk system redundancy vs. single points of failure. I will just say i think the mass media's reporting of these 'The sky is falling' type of stories are disingenuous, apocryphal, or just plain lazy reporting, at best. - it seems to be that there is a all too-ready market, and indeed an increase in 'doomsday' type reporting in recent years, what with terrorists 'round every corner, global warming, asteroids, alien invasions, bird flu, aids, sars, whooping cough, boils, etc and FUD being spread like manure on a windy day, you get the picture...