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Running Great Britain? There's an App For That!

judgecorp writes "Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron will get a personalised iPad app to help him run the country. The 'government dashboard' will include health waiting list figures, crime statistics, economic statistics and a real-time news feed. Cameron is a committed Apple user — but British members of Parliament have only been allowed iPads in the House of Commons since March 2011."

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  1. Lies! by dexomn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Angry Birds will be running the country.

    1. Re:Lies! by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess by county they mean America.

      The bad piggies are running the country now! They seem to have an irrational fear of airborne suicide bombers.

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    2. Re:Lies! by Patch86 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But Harriet Harman is still in the Opposition!

      Oh yes, obscure politics pun-based joke. I went there.

  2. Anybody else read the title... by gman003 · · Score: 5, Funny

    as "Ruining Great Britain"?

    1. Re:Anybody else read the title... by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 5, Funny

      He doesn't need an iDevice to do that

  3. What are you waiting for, Anonymous? by dingen · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hacking into those feeds sounds like a lot of fun indeed!

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  4. Why is a native client needed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stop making apps for the sake of making an app. If the solution doesn't require any specific equipment on the device, just write make it a website.

    1. Re:Why is a native client needed? by newcastlejon · · Score: 3, Informative

      But... but... Apps! In the Cloud! On iPads! Using social media! Web 2.0, man!

      How else are the Tories ever supposed to convince us that they either know or care one whit about the general populace?!

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    2. Re:Why is a native client needed? by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Funny

      Stop making apps for the sake of making an app. If the solution doesn't require any specific equipment on the device, just write make it a website.

      A wwebsite as on the internet?

      Is that you, Paul?

    3. Re:Why is a native client needed? by chrb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Agreed. And I'd go further and say that it should be available to everyone. From TFA: "The software will allow the Prime Minister to see the latest NHS waiting-list figures, crime statistics, unemployment numbers and a wide variety of other data at a glance." The big question is, why isn't all of this information being made available to the general public? It is not secret, it is not personal, it is just a summary view of various national statistics. Once again the tax payer funds software development but will never see the actual software, and citizens are denied access to what should be public data.

    4. Re:Why is a native client needed? by six025 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Having stats like this available is great, but the problem is the figures don't match reality. As a contractor that worked on a system to log crime for the UK police force for several years, it became apparent that one of the goals of the system was to allow "adjustment" of what is a serious crime or a minor offence.

      Want to change the crime rate? Simply update the category for various offences until the target rate is achieved, report to media. Everybody wins ;-)

      Peace,
      Andy.

  5. Custom-developed app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Cabinet Office developers are currently building the customised iPad app so the Prime Minister can remain abreast of government business . . . is expected to be ready by March."

    I'd love to work for the government contractor that got that contract. As if the MPs expenses scandal wasn't bad enough, now we're bankrolling the Prime Minister's iTunes account.

    "The app will essentially act as a government dashboard, providing the Prime Minister with all the latest information from across Whitehall – including the latest NHS waiting-list figures, crime statistics, unemployment numbers, and a wide variety of other data – at a glance."

    I just hope that we, the taxpayers who are paying for this development work, will get a version of the app that we can use ourselves. It's fine if they scrub out the sensitive internal government data that it's (hopefully) tracking, but a sanitised version appropriate for public consumption would still be quite useful. I'd be interested to know things like crime and unemployment statistics, which can then be used to judge how well the Conservative government is actually doing.

  6. Re:Obama's Ipad by nomadic · · Score: 4, Informative

    Presumably you also criticized GWB, who literally took 3 times as many vacation days as Obama, right?

  7. Re:Tory party is a collection of special interests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't worry, Dave needs Clegg. It's not as if he managed to push through a Bill which fixes parliaments at 5 years and requires a majority of 2/3 to call an early election. Combine this with New Labour's Abolition of Justice 2003 and Castration of Parliament 2006 acts and I begin to wonder why Westminster hasn't been turned into luxury flats. 99 in every 100 pieces of legislation are already written by government with only a few dozen Acts per year actually resulting from Bills passed through Parliament. The people of England and Wales are too busy worrying about manufactured crises while one of the most stable democracies in the world self-terminates.

    Oh well, we're getting what we deserve. It's not as if we've suffered a suffrage-abolishing enabling act yet - the Fixed Term Act merely gave the Tories the maximum allowed by the 1911 Parliament Act without Lords veto privilege.

  8. Re:Will the app be on the app store? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dev accounts can load apps directly onto factory standard iOS devices - it'd be a bitch to chase down bugs otherwise!

  9. Been there... by stm2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
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    1. Re:Been there... by damburger · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Let me get this straight. Your (I am assuming that is your site?) criticism of Cybersyn was that it was too ambitious to work, but then the only example of it in action you can come up with is when it *did* work?

      Also, the idea that you can't control anything that features a time lag is absolutely laughable. Talk to an engineer for fucks sake. Or better still, take a ride in an aeroplane that has a functioning autopilot and notice how you aren't tossed around like you are in a washing machine...

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  10. Better idea by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just put him to playing Civilization or the like, and tell him he's running the country.

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  11. See here is the problem with modern government by Osgeld · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While your country is in a rescission, your people are in the streets protesting, and having to budget for a simple can of beans what does the government do?

    Buy the most expensive, most shiny status symbol toy cause they cant be bothered to check their fucking email at their desk.

    1. Re:See here is the problem with modern government by chrb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This app will cost way more than $500. A team of professional app developers, working on a government contract, will cost hundreds of thousands, the final cost with maintenance and bug fixing may well be over $1 million. Remember that even a very simple app costs $100k+ http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/11/23/210241/osha-app-costs-govt-200k

  12. Re:Will the app be on the app store? by lakeland · · Score: 4, Informative

    Someone else has already mentioned dev accounts, but it's also possible to run an enterprise app store. Perhaps not worth it for just one iPad but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way they go since it will be seen as the proper approach.

  13. Not just iPads by Albanach · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have no idea why the summary says MPs are only allowed iPads in the House of Commons. Members are allowed to use smartphones or tablet computers, there are no brand restrictions placed upon them.

    1. Re:Not just iPads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      You read it wrong. The "only" refers to the date (March 2011) when they were allowed to use them, not to the iPads.

  14. Re:Obama's Ipad by magarity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's really hard to identify when any president is really on vacation. Obama doubtless golfs with people he needs to talk to and discusses business just like GWB used to host foreign leaders at his ranch in Texas. Neither one is a vacation or 'just' a golf game in my book but each's political opponents count them as goof off time.

  15. Re:Obama's Ipad by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This whole app sounds like a modern rip-off of Salvador Allende's star-trek-ish proto-internet, Cybersyn

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  16. Re:Tory party is a collection of special interests by Canazza · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Politicians are hypocritical! Shock horror.

    I'm in Scotland and we've got the Nationals in 'power' at the moment (we get Education, Health, Income Tax, Law and some others, but money and legislation on Power, Defence, Foreign Policy etc. comes from Westminster). There will be an Independence referendum in the next year or so and I'm still undecided myself which way I'll vote. There are pros and cons for each side. The biggest Pro would be finally kicking the Tories out of Scotland.
    Sure, they got that bit of the Borders, but there's about 10 people living there and half of them are English. Ofcourse, then we're left with Labour as our most right-wing party of note, since our National Party are about as left as the Liberals.

    The biggest Con would be keeping our economy working. Especially with the way Europe is at the moment (and no amount of increased trade with Norway will counter that).

    What I'm scared of is that I don't know enough to make an informed choice. And that people in general have lost faith in politics in a broad sense because they feel they don't know enough, and don't CARE enough to find out. They just trust that each party is pretty much the same as the other ones and just vote for the person that shouts the loudest at them.

    Here in Scotland we have Holyrood, who defer to Westminster for certain issues, who defer to the EU on top of that. I know here we have three systems to worry about, and three Elections to vote in. We vote in MSPs, MPs and MEPs. Each parliament is so monolithic and entwined in their own red tape that the general population don't know what each one of them *really* does, and who controls what and are so fatigued by it that voter turnout for the last Scottish Election was 50%. Half the people in Scotland didn't turn up to vote.

    It's 2am here. I'm rambling. Hopefully some of it made sense :P

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  17. Re:Obama's Ipad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is a bit from CBS

    predecessors? CBS Radio's Mark Knoller has kept track of presidential vacations for years and supplied the data.

    So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

  18. Re:Will the app be on the app store? by alen · · Score: 3, Informative

    $3000 for the enterprise dev license to load apps directly on your organization's idevices without the app store. apple even has a tool for IT drones to do it automatically

  19. Re:waiting list figures by Winchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Waiting lists are inevitable in a system where demand slightly outstrips supply and so are valuable metrics on how the system in operating. That's not to say emergency treatment is restricted, but you will probably have to wait a while to get your bunions treated. It seems to me a sign of a mature and caring democracy where this metric *is* the primary concern of a society. Oh... and no one believes it is "free". It is only "free" at the point of delivery, we know we pay a lot for it and that's why we need to make sure we're receiving value for the money. This is why the metric is important.