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EA, Nintendo, Sony Quietly Withdraw SOPA Support

wbr1 writes "Electronista reports that Sony, Nintendo, and Electronic Arts have all pulled their support for SOPA, but have not issued any statements as to why. The house.gov list of SOPA supporters is here."

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  1. If it was quiet... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "EA, Nintendo, Sony Quietly Withdraw SOPA Support"

    If it was quiet, they still support it. They just don't want to lose as many customers.

  2. Re:But The Really Didn't.... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "No! Not anymore! Really! We like you! Buy our crap!"

  3. Re:Not Entirely Withdrawn by NewWorldDan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, of course. They still support it, they just don't want to announce that they support it and all the bad press, gamer retaliatation and vigilante attacks (ie., anonymous) that that implies, so they hide behind an industry trade group.

  4. Re:Not Entirely Withdrawn by lennier1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly.

    The GoDaddy clusterfuck just taught them to not be stupid enough to connect your company name to it directly.

  5. Re:Concerned Women for America (CWA) by artor3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thou shalt not make copies of things (e.g. movies, music, fish, bread) without first paying.

  6. Re:Concerned Women for America (CWA) by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is about that most Christian of virtues, making sure that the rich don't have to earn their money.

  7. Re:I get the media companies, but... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have a good point about the IBEW, electrical codes and standards. The code and standards publishing bodies guard their products jealously. And they do chase down people who violate their copyrights aggressively. Sometimes too aggressively, if one assumes 'fair use' and quotes too extensively from their publications.

    The NFPA, the publisher of various electrical, safety and fire codes also provides training and (at one time, maybe not anymore) offered a code interpretation service (which may have come dangerously close to providing engineering services without a license). As such, they are in direct competition with other training and engineering service providers. Armed with SOPA, they could pretty much shut down any competing services. Or at least drive them off the 'Net. The IEEE holds a similar position in that many ordinances simply cite their standards in statutes or regulations and expect anyone having to comply with said regulations to cough up $$$ to obtain a copy.

    Obligatory bad car analogy: Think of a world where traffic laws just referred to some AAA driving handbook, available only to paying members.

    I'm sure that there are many analogous examples in different professions where one quasi-official publisher could effectively control their industry given sufficient ammunition.

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  8. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by jones_supa · · Score: 1, Insightful

    (transcript here and a few more specifics here)

    Aggh. Why're people so in love with links that only read "here"? They're not quite informative.

    But hey, happy new year. :)

  9. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by JavaBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Short answer: If Sony had felt threatened by Anonymous, it would only have strengthened their resolve.

    No, IMHO the reason these corporations have withdrawn their support may be twofold, one may just be because they are starting to realize that SOPA may very well backfire on them legally. With SOPA there is no real competition left, and in that environment, what you can do to your competitors, they can do to you just as well.

    However the most recent event, which I think shaped their decision, is the customer reaction to GoDaddy's support for SOPA. That told them that customers are actually willing talking with their wallet, and when they do, it can hurt them.

  10. Re:This may be the way out by blahbooboo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Setting it up as a problem in game theory, the tenet "candidate who spends the most money wins the election" makes the outcome a foregone conclusion: elected government officials will be in the pocket of corporations, in all cases.

    Another way to see this is that candidate who raised the most money also had the most number of supporters...

  11. Re:This may be the way out by webheaded · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No...the corporate money completely drowns out any individual contributions. I can damn near guarantee that.

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  12. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by Technician · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SONY is only one player. I just got off the phone leaving voice mail for some others on the list. Call them. Write them. Let your voice be heard. Give examples. First I told them I understood that piracy of film and music is a problem. I then told them I could shut down Slashdot, Picasa, Photobucket, Makezine, and many anti scam websites, etc for posting photos and text that users shared but did not make. Sites I use to promote my work would be shut down if this passes. Make it clear that the piracy is a problem, but the proposed solution would shut down sites individuals use. We do not need the Internet to become just another TV or radio station for big media. The Internet would be of no use if that happens.

    Slashdot could be shut down for most everything placed in quotes. This is WRONG.

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  13. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think Sony gives two left shits about Anons.

    It's probably when Kotaku and the rest of the gaming news media caught on to who's supporting SOPA did they shit their pants.

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  14. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by LifesABeach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One has to ask, "are these corporations publicly supporting SOPA?" The answer is becoming a resounding, "NO!" But what about privately? Proxy lawyers are just as lethal, but can be untrustworthy.

  15. Re:MAD by jythie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Unlikely. Laws like this tend to have 'wink and nod' exceptions for big players.... any case that is 'obvious' will quietly get dropped.

  16. I wish it would pass for *ONE* reason. by Khyber · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Kill fucking Zynga.

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  17. Re:Anonymous Threatened Sony by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's also the other form where the links are spread over the words such as "There is many tech web sites". :)

    Not a big deal, but people could give it just a little thought in general. It forces you to hover over all the links and makes the page harder to read if it's printed. A good rule of thumb could be that the same text should also work completely without the links around the words.

  18. Why would Sony be afraid? by msobkow · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I understand angst. I understand outrage. I understand wanting to "do something about it."

    But Anonymous is a voice without a mission. They and the Occupy protesters expect the world to change policy on a dime just because they've suddenly discovered that the world sucks and the greedy get away with it.

    They can both take a spin. The movement to fight the US DEA's dogmatic persecution of cannabis users and patients began before I was born. It's been a multi-generational battle, with each generation teaching the next about what tactics worked, and what tactics didn't Instead of crying that "no one listens to me", the cannabis activists kept learning and adapting as the laws and rules of society changed, but they never gave up on the core mission.

    The battle isn't over by any means -- the DEA still insists there is no "medical use" for cannabis despite literally millions of patients around the world testifying to it's usefulness and over a dozen states approving medical cannabis programs.

    If a change of policy that is backed by such sound economic, scientific, social, and moral benefits cannot be won in less time, what makes Anonymous and Occupy think they're going to change the world by complaining?!?!?!

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    1. Re:Why would Sony be afraid? by bky1701 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what is your suggestion? Maybe you should shut up and stop complaining about people who are doing something, no matter how small. Ultimately, you're part of the problem.

    2. Re:Why would Sony be afraid? by Professr3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You and others who share this viewpoint are the reason oppression is allowed to happen. Turning a blind eye to others' suffering or injustice simply because you disagree with their causes, appearance, or perceived lack of hygiene is something Edmund Burke would have denounced as "despicable."

      I'd fight for your right to protest the gathering of "dirty squatters," and the founding principles of our country expect you to do the same for them.