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Windows Phone Homebrew Hits a Snag
symbolset writes "TheNextWeb is reporting that the first official jailbreak for Windows Phone 7, ChevronWP7, has 'sold out' of tokens to enable homebrew application support. Only 10,000 tokens to jailbreak Windows Phones were ever granted. According to an announcement through ChevronWP7's Twitter feed, they're discussing whether they will ask Microsoft to make more available. With Lumia falling flat in Europe Microsoft needs all the enthusiastic modding fans they can get."
Lumia was not even available to buy in sweden until this january.
Windows Phone 7 is actually the only current phone with no exploits.
And as the Microsoft astroturfers keep telling us, that's only because the market share is so low that no-one cares enough to try to exploit it.
Reminds me of my senior year in high school -> the Administration had somehow convinced the students that while pranks were acceptable, they had to be approved before being implemented. Suffice to say, the quality of pranks has since dropped.
Placing a bunch of chairs out on the quad does not compare with dismantling and reassembling a teacher's car on one of the higher levels of the library.
I am John Hurt.
Erm, try again:
European customers yawning at Microsoft/Nokia Windows phone. ... lukewarm response in Europe despite rock-bottom dumping prices financed by Microsoft who badly wants Android to fail.
ChevronWP7 wasn't a jailbreak, it didn't give you control over the phone. All it really did was give you the rights of a developer account, without paying for it.
Those of us who were waiting for a true jailbreak, with native-code execution and control of the system, were sorely disappointed that ChevronWP7 got so much publicity, because after that, people stopped working on trying to really jailbreak the phone. It was sad.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
So, basically, Lumia topped sales on one website for a few days. And another website had put into 'bestseller list' without releasing any numbers.
Yeah, it really performs well. Maybe next month a "Joe's Web Store" site would put it into "Top Wishlisted" products.
Well I'd trust the mainstream tech media to give some reliable numbers on Lumia sales rather than an MS astroturfing site.
Let's see: El Reg, Grauniad, Gizmodo, and many others..
For all intensive porpoises your a bunch of rediculous loosers
Hello that same guy, who "mistook" pointing out one MS shill for "They censor anyone pro-MS!".
Incidentally, top comment of that thread was same NOKIA LUMIA IS THE WINNER without any grounding in reality.
Incidentally 2, he already posted it as unaccepted submission
Incidentally 3, judging by your behaviours, I'll classify you as "yet another part of CmdrInterstsightfulFellowIn140Bytes sockpuppet account".
I bought a Nokia N9 on the grey market to add to my collection of Maemo phones. I have an N770, N800, N900, and now an N9. What really surprised me is that the N9 is beautiful, the OS is great, and the screens are beautiful. People would have loved the N9 if they were able to buy it. Elop certainly made sure it was not only dead, but he had Nokia use up the N9 parts (except the processor) building that Lumina 800 thing.
If I had my way at Nokia. They would still do what they do best making beautiful hardware, and allow people to choose from Symbian, Maemo, and Android. No one really wants WP7, and it just isn't very good.
My guess is that Microsoft got to Nokia's board and installed Elop to have Nokia sign away rights to do anything other than pay Microsoft as part one. Part two is to destroy Nokia so that Microsoft can buy their stock for penny's and get control of Nokia's massive patent portfolio. Once that's done, Microsoft will become the world's largest patent troll and simple make Google and Apple pay to sell cell phones. After all, this would be the normal Microsoft modus operandi of extortion rather than development. Microsoft loves being sneaky. I am sure the bosses at Microsoft know that WP7 is junk, and could never compete on it's merits. To me, WP7 is just a sham to cover Microsoft's true objectives of fraud and extortion without being sued outright.
So, there.
* Carthago Delenda Est *
Maybe it has something to do with the simple fact that Linux is often used in big business to run servers with mission-critical services while WP7 phone is at best about as important as overpriced paperweight.
Yes, desktop Linux is secure enough for only semi-loud malware story about it to be "someone uploaded trojan shell script masked as a Gnome addon to a third-party Gnome addons site, some people actually downloaded it and some even ran it". Can't remember did it try to get user to sudo it or just did what it could with user's permissions.
Server Linux, on the other hand, is very attractive target as it hosts a big part of the web and targeted software is not Linux per se, but usually buggy CMS's and unpatched Apache installations.
Windows, on the other hand, has a few nice MS-introduced OS level vulnerabilities discovered this year - not to forget about the beautiful times brought by LoveSan and alikes.
Fight piracy ! use the original N9 one ... dont buy crappy copies such as that sandboxed toy for lamers
I will ignore WP7 untill someone port a decent framework like Qt or native dll ...
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Saw the username, looked at your endless troll submissions, ignore. If you aren't getting paid to do this it's even more lame.
I live in Australia and I have yet to see anyone with a WP7 powered device in hand. I catch the train to work every day and the train is full of people using their phones/tablets/tablets/mp3 players to pass the time. If you go to any mobile phone reseller WP7 handsets are never up front and in many cases are not even on display in the shops front window. I can only imagine the numbers Microsoft are showing are stock figures not actual sales especially considering most wholesalers are stocking up as the AUD dollar is very good (I work for a wholesale electronics company and our warehouse is full to be brim).
You are the killer of fun, implementer of bureaucracy, neuterer of joy.
Good-bye
Same here in the UK. I see tons of people with Android and iOS phones but no one with a WP7 phone nor do you even hear anyone mention them. If it weren't for the internet I wouldn't know they exist.
Two months ago, I traded my wonderful G2 for a HD7 to get a taste of the Windows Phone experience. I've used Windows Mobile since the 2003 version on the MPx200 (solid flip-phone; absolutely loved it) and wanted to see how far Microsoft has matured in the mobile arena.
:)
Windows Phone 7 has, hands down, the best mobile UI experience you can get right now. Everything is fluid, fast and easy. The stock applications and voice controls gel perfectly and make Android look like a total mess, though it's cleaned up its act with Ice Cream Sandwich. App switching is WebOS-like and will make multi-tasking awesome when it comes to life in the next version. It's integration with Windows Live and Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn is the best I have ever seen and used and totally antiquates the need for their dedicated apps. (This might not matter for many Slashdot folks, but it matters for most people.) Forget iPod and iTunes; the Zune is just as easy to use and is much prettier to use. (It helps that the Zune software runs great on Windows, unlike iTunes.) The camera has ZERO lag, though the lens on the HD7 absolutely sucked. It's experience is absolutely beautiful and I can totally see iPhone users defecting to this once the app ecosystem.
Microsoft's strategy to use Nokia as their flagship supplier makes much more sense after you use it for a while; Nokia still has huge brand recognition and will shake up the market really nicely when they release (and market) their ace device.
The biggest obvious problem is that Apple and Android both had first-mover's advantage and, thus, own the space at the moment. However, this is not as problematic as it seems. People are getting tired of iOS (it hasn't changed very much since 1.0, despite great hardware advances) and Windows Phone offers a very cool and equally smooth alternative that a lot of people will feel comfortable moving to, especially with its strong Facebook integration. It's going to be very difficult for Apple to match this and Android's UI improvements and they can't depend on making killer hardware leaps anymore since both fronts have caught up there. (Kind of like how Intel can't really market GHz anymore since every processor is "fast enough.")
Apple is, finally, in trouble, but that's what happens when you're on top for so long.
The more they destroy their developer-base and show that they are unfriendly to developers, the more developers will avoid WP7. The net result being the suicide of WP7. This is great... well, except for the two people that bought a WP7 phone.
You reap what you sow.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Not exactly, no. You can develop for the emulator for free (all the tools and SDKs are available for free). If you want to put what you developed on your phone itself you can either pay $100/year for access to the market (the standard approach that Microsoft wants you to do, because it gets apps in the market and everybody judges smartphone platforms by the size of their market) or you could pay the Chevron guys $9 and get the exact same level of access to your phone but not be allowed to submit apps to the market. The apps you write can only be used by other people who have paid for Chevron or are "official" developers. They call this "homebrew".
I don't know why Microsoft chose to limit the number of tokens for Chevron customers, but at least they're actively working with the homebrew enthusiast community rather than doing everything in their power to shut them down like Apple.
Perhaps because it is a dead end. Advertised as such since over six months before it launched, which makes the average consumer scratch their head and wonder wtf is going on in Nokia's marketing department.
You know, the whole "two people who bought..." meme would be a lot funnier in an article that wasn't about how ten thousand tokens for homebrew development sold out in just a few months. Let's break down that 10,000 to get an idea of what it really means, though:
These aren't needed for people who are already developers - they have legit developer accounts, which offer the same access plus submitting to the Marketplace.
These people don't work for Microsoft - developer accounts are free to employees (I interned there and know some people who still work there).
These aren't needed for people who were early adopters - the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker worked just fine for the first few months of after release.
These aren't needed for everyday users - most of them will never have heard of homebrew or have any interest in dev-unlocking their phones.
These aren't needed for LG device owners - their phones ship with a built-in registry editor that can dev-unlock the phones.
These aren't needed for Samsung device owners (anymore) - WindowBreak does the same thing (though it only came out a few weeks ago).
What does that leave:
People who want homebrew, who bought the phone months after release, who don't have developer accounts and aren't MS employees, and who aren't using LG (or now Samsung) phones. Since availability started on 4 Nov 2011 (http://www.chevronwp7.com/post/12328024419/chevronwp7-labs-availability), ten thousand such people have used the service.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
In what way would my N900 be less free than a WM7 phone?
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