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Ubuntu TV Finally Gets a Close-Up

Barence writes "Canonical has unveiled the first screenshots and details of Ubuntu TV. Plans for versions of the Linux distro for tablets, smartphones and TVs were unveiled last year, and now the television is — perhaps surprisingly — the first of those to arrive. 'It's a simple viewing experience for online video, both your own and routed over the internet,' Jane Silber, Canonical's CEO told PC Pro. Movie streaming services will be supported as well as live television broadcasts. Ubuntu TV will be integrated into television sets, but Canonical was unable to confirm any manufacturers. It will be released later this year."

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  1. Mythbuntu by Ynot_82 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Looking at the screenshots, it looks like it's running MythTV with a custom theme

    I wonder how the Mythbuntu folks feel about this.
    Seeing as this Ubuntu respin has never been officially endorsed by Canonical (to my knowledge), may be seen as a bit of a hijacking of the project...

    1. Re:Mythbuntu by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is well within the rules of free software though, so it doesn't really matter what they think.

      Does Mythbuntu have a mechanism for renting/buying movies though?

    2. Re:Mythbuntu by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seeing as this Ubuntu respin has never been officially endorsed by Canonical

      If something called Ubuntu TV and presented by Canonical isn't endorsed by Canonical they must be pretty schizophrenic over there ;). Anyway, did Canonical need the endorsement of Debian to create Ubuntu? Or did Mint need the endorsement of Canonical? I don't see why Canonical should have to ask permission to make a respin of MythTV. If they could actually get some market traction (which I'm not holding my breath for) then patches and improvements will hopefully make their way back. Or not, since there's no law that require you to work well with upstream. If it turns out to be nothing but MythTV with a skin I'm sure most people will hear about that anyway.

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    3. Re:Mythbuntu by Ynot_82 · · Score: 3, Informative

      By "this", in

      Seeing as this Ubuntu respin has never been officially endorsed by Canonical

      I meant
      "Seeing as Mythbuntu has never been officially endorsed by Canonical"

      Mythbuntu was a third party respin of Ubuntu, that integrated MythTV into the distribution and comes with custom front-end configuration software and other things to ease the setup of a MythTV system

    4. Re:Mythbuntu by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Informative

      Looking at the screenshots, it looks like it's running MythTV with a custom theme

      I wonder how the Mythbuntu folks feel about this.
      Seeing as this Ubuntu respin has never been officially endorsed by Canonical (to my knowledge), may be seen as a bit of a hijacking of the project...

      Uh, what screenshots are you looking at? The ones in the linked article? It looks nothing like MythTV, other than in the generic way in which you could say any media app (Windows Media Center, Sage TV, XBMC, etc) looks like MythTV (you know, it's got a program guide, and a list of videos with coverart). If there's one thing in there that makes it painfully obvious that it ISN'T mythtv, it's got to be the screenshot that shows you can rent/buy movies...myth doesn't have anything at all like that.

  2. But WHO will manufacture them? by msobkow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't imagine anyone going to an electronics store and saying "I want to buy an Ubuntu TV." No, they're going to ask for features or for a name-brand.

    Who is going to be shipping them? The author of the software behind a smart/internet-enabled TV is way down my priority list when considering the purchase of a TV.

    From what I've read, none of the so-called "Smart TV" products works with ALL content. They're all broken for one media site or another, a far from perfect solution for anyone.

    How about listing the streaming protocols and formats Ubuntu supports? Are there any it doesn't support? Why?

    I guess we'll just have to hope for more info when CES rolls around. But for now, I'd appreciate it if the Slashbot editors would stop posting pre-announcements for products as if they're telling us anything useful in them. All you're doing is providing free advertising for products that haven't been shown yet and about which we know nothing.

    I'd much rather see some articles during and after CES that actually have some information about the products, not just the names of the vendors involved.

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    1. Re:But WHO will manufacture them? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think you're kind of missing the point. It's up to manufacturers to pick what OS their TV runs (and yes, it feels seriously odd saying that). All digital TVs and PVRs run Linux, almost without exception - there are some weird outliers like cable boxes that run VxWorks, but they're going away.

      If I can get my hands on a feature-complete environment with a pretty solid company behind it to install onto my TV, I'd be mad not to use it in favour of some half-assed homegrown thing.

    2. Re:But WHO will manufacture them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      My Toshiba TV already runs Linux somewhere along the line - presumably for the smart TV features. Now, either Toshiba are maintaining this themselves or they have bought it in from somewhere. Does that answer your question as to what market Canonical may be looking at?

    3. Re:But WHO will manufacture them? by justforgetme · · Score: 2

      Also lets hope the Mythbuntu fork works otherwise we are doomed to a life of manically moving around our hands in order to adjust the volume on our kinect enabled windows8910 TV.

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  3. Can't wait to try: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    sudo apt-get remove realitytv
    sudo apt-get install somethinginteresting

    1. Re:Can't wait to try: by MrHanky · · Score: 4, Funny

      E: somethinginteresting depends on bigmedia (>= 2.0.1-1) but will not get installed.

  4. More useful links by Ramsed · · Score: 5, Informative

    More info at Canocial blog and Ubuntu website (including a video).

  5. I wonder what they use for dlna and daap by blackest_k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hopefully there may be some new packages coming out because of this
    daap seems broken on ubuntu
    least ways I can't connect via daap to my media on my nas , that may be due to a bad file name for a media file. Tried several media players and failed each time.

    DLNA does work with Totem and XBMC but Totem doesn't filter and XBMC takes over the whole session meaning you can't just set music playing and get on and do something else.
    rhythmbox is supposed to support DLNA but the media servers don't show up.

    The other issue which exists is DRM somehow there has to be some decoding of drm in order to use a lot of feeds and what content provider is going to give keys to decode content without some certainty that their content isn't going to become part of somebodies library for the price of a rental

    1. Re:I wonder what they use for dlna and daap by 1s44c · · Score: 2

      The other issue which exists is DRM somehow there has to be some decoding of drm in order to use a lot of feeds and what content provider is going to give keys to decode content without some certainty that their content isn't going to become part of somebodies library for the price of a rental

      Most slashdot readers want something nice to play DVDs they ripped themselves and torrented movies. The media companies have been abusing customers for far too long for anyone to give a toss about their survival now. Any new fancy DRM scheme will just get hacked like all the others did, the media companies may as well not bother.

    2. Re:I wonder what they use for dlna and daap by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is a serious lack of UPNP renderers on Linux. I'm kind of surprised at this, since it shouldn't be hard to do. I'll throw it on the pile with my other 327 projects.

  6. Re:Oh dear by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Funny

    but Canonical was unable to confirm any manufacturers. It will be released later this year.

    Oh dear. Released by who then?

    Sony may be coding up a rootkit for ubuntu as we talk.

  7. RedundantTV by billcopc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay so, we have MythTV, XBMC/Boxee/Plex, Freevo, Enna, and only Github knows how many others... and now Ubuntu TV.

    How many of these me-too media center suites do we need ? I've been an XBMC fan since it was an actual Xbox app, but it is only a player. The few of my friends who want PVR functionality use MythTV. Would it not make a million times more sense to concentrate people's efforts on those two projects ? I'd rather have two awesome media center apps than ten shitty ones. Both are extensively configurable so it doesn't seem like anyone would be losing prized functionality by switching to one of the big two - or even merging them into one.

    And no, I'm not new here. I'm just fed up with the unnecessary fracturing of limited free software resources. Even the venerable GeeXboX has seen the light and transformed itself into a polished XBMC-based distro. The more developers and eyeballs we have on the core projects, the better.

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    1. Re:RedundantTV by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We don't need any that don't support Netflix. Will they have netflix support?

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  8. Android TV is already here (wll almost) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/09/lenovo_touts_worlds_first_ics_television_set/

    If this is any good then it could well be that the Canonical offering will be too little, too late.

  9. They need to take a page or two from MythTV by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've used MythTV extensively in the past, not as much anymore since cable providers fight tooth and nail against clear QAM and NTSC, but never mind that.

    One thing I really liked about MythTV was the ability to launch any program I wanted through use of the "Game Player" section - most notably, I actually liked being able to launch actual video games. If this thing actually hits TV's or a set top box the box itself needs to support Bluetooth - for pairing PS3 controls. USB would be an alright work around and there's lots you could do with it, but really Bluetooth is the way to go. They need the MythTV like game launch for ZSNES, Mednafen, MAME, and whatever else. The console in the TV would be the rockinest thing ever!

    (Building in support for a Myth backend would be nice also, but who am I fooling? Cable providers have put a bullet in that. It's easier to just torrent and watch shows than it is to time shift - the irony of the situation - fighting against the peoples ability to legally do as they should be able to causes more piracy - who would have guessed?)

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  10. unity by roman_mir · · Score: 2

    I don't want Unity on my computer and I don't watch TV, just youtube videos. They are going the way of a TV on a general computer with Unity and sacrificing normal desktop for it.

    1. Re:unity by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2

      They built it for the tablets and TVs... and then some idiot thought it would be funny if they put it on a desktop... (right click? what right click? there's no right click! it's unity...)

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  11. Re:Oh dear by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 2

    Sony may be coding up a rootkit for ubuntu as we talk.

    Motorola, maker of set top boxes, is working on Ubuntu Blur theme-ification and unremovable Blockbuster app as we speak.

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  12. Captain Video! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    but Canonical was unable to confirm any manufacturers. It will be released later this year.

    UbuntuTV! Maybe I'll be able to root my old black and white Philco.

    It's got a little problem with the vertical hold, but that goes away if I reach in the back and wiggle one of the tubes.

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  13. Re:How About the TV is dead perpective? by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2

    I fear the `computer' as we know it will be dead in a five to ten year perspective.

    All we'll have are locked down media consumption devices (e.g. ipads and these kinds of TVs, perhaps linux based, who knows, but that doesn't matter). Sure you'll be able to browse web, check email, and BUY apps, movies, music etc., but that would be it for its capabilities---and scary part is that 99% of the population would be just fine with that.

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  14. I have over 1000 videos. by JustNiz · · Score: 2

    One of the main reasons I don't like Unity is that it wastes so much screenspace and makes the icons so big that you only get to see a few on the screen at a time.

    I noticed the paradigm continues with unbuntuTV.

    I have over 1000 videos. Using the whole screen to show 6 movie icons at a time won't even slightly work for me.

  15. Re:One more.... by reub2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Considering that netflix is the application that consumes the most bandwidth on the internet, I have to ask you what the hell your talking about.

  16. Re:Is it chock full of proprietary software? by reub2000 · · Score: 2

    Flash, nVidia drivers

    None of this is on the livecd, nor is it installed without asking the user, so I'm not sure why AC is complaining about this.

  17. Re:Oh dear by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When asked who would actually be manufacturing it, a Canonical spokesperson responded "Hey, look over there!" and ran out a nearby exit.

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  18. YAY Just what I want by Osgeld · · Score: 2

    A tv with a shitty interface where all the buttons get moved around every update ... how could it fail?

  19. Re:Hard drives, limited ports, CableCARD by Hadlock · · Score: 2

    MHL is the future, So what is the present?

    People complaining that existing, outdated components are is too big to fit on the back of their TV, and not having enough HDMI ports, apparently.

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