Who Goes To CES?

Used to go.... by Xenious · 2012-01-12 08:21 · Score: 2

I started going to CES when Comdex stopped happening, but I haven't gone in years. No travel budget.

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Re:Used to go.... by ackthpt · 2012-01-12 10:21 · Score: 1

I started going to CES when Comdex stopped happening, but I haven't gone in years. No travel budget.
About the same here. The worst was seeing stuff which was actually years from hitting the market -- which kinda dulls your enthusiasm a bit. On the other hand, I did manage to hear Bill Gates speak, which was more like some idiot-savant babble which appeared to threaten half the businesses at the show, with some sort of "and Microsoft will control it or be a part of ..." gee-whizzy thing. Honestly, I don't think they had a clue why they were there, aside being invited - Microsoft failed at so many CE applications. Now they're a bit patent-troll parasite on Android.
Best of all, though was going over to a hotel and seeing all the great High-End Hi-Fi stuff. Awesome systems, which showed how utter rubbish anything you could get at Best Buy was. Bought a lot of great stuff there as it was part CES and part sale/order taking.
Biggest disappointment: Cost of food in the casinos - gone are the days of Losing Gambler subsidized All Yew Can Eat.

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Who wants to go? by nurb432 · 2012-01-12 08:22 · Score: 1, Flamebait

No seriously.. who really wants to go to a dog and pony show?

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Re:Who wants to go? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 08:29 · Score: 1

It would be a lot more interesting if DEF CON was happening next door.
Re:Who wants to go? by noh8rz2 · 2012-01-12 09:02 · Score: 5, Insightful

actually, it was more interesting when the adult entertainment expo was happening next door.
Re:Who wants to go? by uniquename72 · 2012-01-12 09:02 · Score: 2

I live in Vegas and get a free pass every year. I can either go to CES or sit in a cubicle -- either way, I get paid.

So I go to CES.
Re:Who wants to go? by jellomizer · 2012-01-12 09:04 · Score: 1

Because it is fun to see what type of stuff they are coming out with.
I went to Linux World Expo back in the early 2000's and I had a general good time, going around watching the demos, being able to go around and asking all the people in one area questions and seeing what each company thinks is important and the next big thing.

A lot of these products will never go out into production soon, or will not be popular, however you get to see what is currently possible with technology.

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Re:Who wants to go? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 09:06 · Score: 1

Yea, what the hell kind of geek would want to play around with a bunch of brand new, unreleased technology products?
Re:Who wants to go? by elrous0 · 2012-01-12 09:09 · Score: 4, Funny

The kind who knows that I go early every year and rub my balls on everything.

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Re:Who wants to go? by nurb432 · 2012-01-12 09:11 · Score: 1

A lot of these products will never go out into production soon, or will not be popular
Exactly why i wouldn't want to bother.

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Re:Who wants to go? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 10:40 · Score: 0

No seriously.. who really wants to go to a dog and pony show?
Dogs? And Ponies?

Having worked at a few CES booths... by Kenja · 2012-01-12 08:29 · Score: 3, Informative

Those that go there are they with a product to hawk and the money to rent the space at the show. Nothing more really. Lots of crap-ware there from groups trying to get some quick bucks from investors or resellers.

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CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by bogaboga · 2012-01-12 08:36 · Score: 1, Troll

..., that's right, despite the fact that Apple did not officially attend.

Re:CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by chispito · 2012-01-12 08:47 · Score: 3, Funny

..., that's right, despite the fact that Apple did not officially attend.
Gotta get those patent suits started early.

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Re:CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by ravenscar · 2012-01-12 08:47 · Score: 2

Spies? Choosing not to exhibit does not mean that you can't view the other exhibits. I'd also note that it's a stretch to call viewing anything that is out in the open at CES spying.
Re:CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by betterunixthanunix · 2012-01-12 08:55 · Score: 1, Insightful

Considering that between 35% and 95% of the information gathered by the CIA is "open source" (perhaps this use of the term predates ESR?), I think it is a reasonable use of the word "spy:"

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/Vol49no2/reexamining_the_distinction_3.htm

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Re:CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 09:25 · Score: 2, Informative

And steal what they can before other products hit the market. So they can "revolutionize" whatever they put on the market next.
Re:CES also had some unofficial [Apple] spies... by SeaFox · 2012-01-12 19:57 · Score: 2

Yes, they're being soooo secretive they had one of their most recognizable living executives go...

Duh. by tekrat · 2012-01-12 08:37 · Score: 4, Insightful

I've been attending "industry-only" events for decades. All you need is a business card, which as you know, you can have made at Staples for $20 or less. You tell then you're a "buyer" or something like that, and they let you in, no questions asked.

Heck, last time I attended CES you were able to pick up your badge AT THE AIRPORT in Vegas. Hows that for convenience? I was able to have a badge handed to me before I could locate my luggage.

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Re:Duh. by bhcompy · 2012-01-12 08:40 · Score: 3, Informative

Well, for E3 they're supposed to verify your company actually exists and is in the industry. Some years they try to enforce these regulations, most years they don't. In my experience, if you prepay they're check you, but if you get your ticket from a 3rd party, they don't check shit when you register.
Re:Duh. by benjamindees · 2012-01-12 08:55 · Score: 2

Heck, last time I attended CES you were able to pick up your badge AT THE AIRPORT in Vegas. Hows that for convenience?
Convention organizers are always looking for choke points as a place to set up shop. Ideally you want a place where everyone comes through, but not all at the same time. For a huge convention, the airport is pretty much perfect.

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Re:Duh. by uvsc_wolverine · 2012-01-12 09:27 · Score: 1

Yep. I got my CES badge at the airport 2 years ago. It was really convenient. They had a table setup by the baggage claim. The line stayed short since they generally only had people come up when a plane landed so it kind of went in surges that were mitigated by the time it took to get off the plane. Worked really well.

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same as e3 by bhcompy · 2012-01-12 08:37 · Score: 4, Interesting

It's the same thing that E3 devolved into, really. A big dog and pony show with 50% the population of attendees made up of people that shouldn't be there, 49% made up of press and pseudopress bloggers, and 1% made up of people that should actually be there.

Re:same as e3 by MyFirstNameIsPaul · 2012-01-12 08:41 · Score: 2

It's the same thing that E3 devolved into
And COMDEX.

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Re:same as e3 by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 08:47 · Score: 0

WTF is pseudopress?
Re:same as e3 by Em+Adespoton · 2012-01-12 10:10 · Score: 1

Pseudopress: when you stand around the bench putting increasingly heavy weights on the bar, talking to others, but with no intention of actually doing anything involving effort, like pressing the bar.
I see the pseudopress at the gym all the time.
Re:same as e3 by desdinova+216 · 2012-01-12 10:25 · Score: 1

my guess is someone who is not an employee/contractor of a "traditional" media outlet but is able to get Media Credentials.
Re:same as e3 by LordLucless · 2012-01-12 11:08 · Score: 2

IMO - someone who publishes articles, as you'd expect press to do, but actually has no readers. In other words, the majority of the blogosphere.

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The obvious reason .... by drpimp · 2012-01-12 08:50 · Score: 1

Hookers are close by?

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Re:The obvious reason .... by rrohbeck · 2012-01-12 16:59 · Score: 1

Quite an understatement. I was at Comdex years ago and they were all over the place. But maybe that's normal for Vegas.

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It's been the case for years... by TaliesinWI · 2012-01-12 08:50 · Score: 3, Informative

Was able to get into the Winter CES in Chicago back in the early 90s just because I was a register drone at Babbage's (computer software and video game store for you youngn's.) I think they had me down as "buyer" even though I had nothing to do with what the company stocked. Hell a buddy of mine who built PCs in his basement got in with a "technician" badge. As long as you didn't show up with children in tow and could ask reasonably coherent questions they were mostly happy to deal with people that were a half step above "Joe Q. Public."

Re:It's been the case for years... by jellomizer · 2012-01-12 09:12 · Score: 1

I think that is exactly what they wanted... No Kids/Teens. Yes they really want to attract the big buyers but just as long the average public behaves, they will be welcomed.

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Re:It's been the case for years... by Dahamma · 2012-01-12 10:00 · Score: 1

The name on my friend's CIS badge a few years ago was "I. P. Freely". He registered online, and when he got there they gave him his badge, no question asked.
Honestly, they *want* as many random people to show up as possible so they can say "this year CES attracted over 150,000 visitors." If those number drastically decline exhibitors may be less likely to attend and pay the absurd prices for booth space, equipment rentals, Internet access, private meeting rooms, ridiculous required union labor rates for setup, etc.
Re:It's been the case for years... by xaxa · 2012-01-12 10:41 · Score: 1

I went to a computer/software industry trade show in the UK for several consecutive years when I was about 8-10. My dad took me.
It was great; there were at most about 5 pre-teenage children in the whole place, so I was a magnet for all the nicer free stuff (games, clothes, company branded sports equipment (?), etc). My dad just got pens and business cards.
Re:It's been the case for years... by Oakey · 2012-01-12 14:03 · Score: 2

There used to be an Amusement Arcade Exhibition held in Blackpool every Easter at the Winter Gardens where they demo'd all the upcoming arcade games. I went every year from the mid-80s to the mid-90s (I was going between 6yrs and 14yrs old) when they stopped holding them. Most memorable year was when Mortal Kombat was first shown, I took a friend that year and nobody believed us when we told them how violent it was. Then a few months later it was all the rage. We also got a lot of cool stuff from Capcom that year.

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Small Camera Buyer by muridae · 2012-01-12 09:14 · Score: 1

The guy who runs the local photography store is there; I heard he's been going every year for a while. He might personally buy a new top-shelf Nikon or Canon, but it's nothing that gets carried at the store as far as I know. Helps me, though, since I can ask him what's there and get a better opinion on what fancy new tech is coming out.

too much hassle by nothousebroken · 2012-01-12 09:14 · Score: 1

At one time I went to CES every year. Other commitments have kept me from going the last two years and I was thinking about going again this year. Then I found out they were doing some new "heightened security" garbage and searching all bags at the door. They never did that before (at least the years I attended). Anyway, I said no thanks. I don't have time for that nonsense.

Funny story: I was at CES the year the iPhone was announced. The morning after the announcement I was in one of the press rooms and overheard two guys from one of the major magazines discussing the announcement. I heard one of them tell his colleague, in all earnestness: "We're at the wrong conference." Personally, I was glad I had chosen CES. I could read about the iPhone, but to be there and see firsthand the reaction of the reporters at the "other conference" was priceless.

Re:too much hassle by GreenEnvy22 · 2012-01-12 10:45 · Score: 1

They say on their literature bags may be searched, but I've been walking around with my big vmworld 2011 backpack all week, never searched once. To the original question, I am a network admin at a non-profit religious denomination, not really in "the industry". I registered online, worked on my cover story, but in the end I didn't need it. They didn't even ask for my business card when I picked up my badge, just drivers license.

Re:Legislate by Dogtanian · 2012-01-12 09:17 · Score: 0

Quick! Call your congress-critter! This sort of behavior needs to be outlawed for the safety of the children! (Or environment, or pick something else.) Clearly people can't make good decisions without government involvement.

Er, what? Given that no-one in the summary, nor in the article itself, nor in the comments above yours was even complaining about the restricted access, let alone saying that the US government should be doing something about it... I'm not sure what you think you're (sarcastically) poking fun at here.

I mean, I'd call it a strawman, but I'm not sure who involved with the article or this thread you're strawmanning, beyond using it as an excuse for a vague libertarian attack on perceived US government interference that had nothing to do with the article(!!)

Seriously, who cares who goes? I'm sure it's crowded, but really, this is news?

It's not really an interesting article, to be honest, but merely taking an interest in the attendance of a show doesn't imply OMGG COMMIE SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

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Not Microsoft, apparently... by roc97007 · 2012-01-12 09:18 · Score: 1

...at least after this year.

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Meh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 09:25 · Score: 0

I've never had the desire to go to any of these industry shows (and I've worked at a number of well-known companies throughout the years). They're too expensive (whether it's the company or me paying, it really doesn't matter - why would I waste my/their time/money) and I would much rather read about it online so I can continue working on my own stuff. No doubt it's good for companies displaying new tech or those wanting to network! Seems more like an event for sales/marketing types more than tech types. :-)

Re:Mr Goatse goes to CES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 09:37 · Score: 0

Picture or it didn't happen...

The joy of CES by Animats · 2012-01-12 09:40 · Score: 1

CES has all the fun of going to Best Buy. Vast amounts of useless consumer junk, hawked by annoying sales people, in a big ugly box of a building. What's not to like?

Re:The joy of CES by Dahamma · 2012-01-12 10:14 · Score: 4, Insightful

You are clearly not doing it right, then.
Last time I went (technically as an exhibitor, but I was mostly setting up and mantaining hardware for demos) I ate for free at 4-5 ridiculously expensive restaurants. The final night we managed to spend over $200 per person at N9NE, hit two different clubs, hung out with some really interesting/bizarre "attendees" of the *other* conference (AVN) at the Venetian, and somehow managed to stumble back to the hotel room at 7am just in time to catch a cab to the airport. THAT'S how you do CES...
Re:The joy of CES by modecx · 2012-01-12 10:17 · Score: 1

Unlike Best Buy, at any given trade show you're also guaranteed to run across hordes of Chinese men who pick up anything and everything resembling a brochure or catalog, so they can stuff it in the little cart they drag behind them (which is invariably filled with thousands of similar brochures totaling at least 50 lbs) so they can drag said cart over your toes, and otherwise trip you up as they try to simulate their daily, hurried commute through Shanghai right there on the trade show floor.
So, you know, if you get off watching Chinese guys do the 5000 page catalog-pickup, you can always bring along the steel toe boots and antisocial personality. Good times.

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Re:The joy of CES by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 14:42 · Score: 0

People like you are the reason CES is getting such a bad name. If you're not there to work, don't come; it's not a vacation. The rest of us are tired of paying top dollar for everything from meals to subpar hotel rooms, waiting in long lines, and generally having to put up with frat boys like yourself. If all the gawkers and party goers stayed home, CES would be a much more pleasant experience for everyone as it would be possible to do the same show with one-third as many people.
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Re:The joy of CES by Dahamma · 2012-01-12 16:20 · Score: 1

1) Setting up and maintaining hardware seems like work to me. I was there for 7 days (2 days before the conference even started). I worked 6-8 hours a day at the conference after putting in 4 80 hour work weeks beforehand (7 days a week with 2 days off in December, which would be 12/25 and 12/31) actually getting our product working for the demos. I think I deserved every one of those free meals.
2) Hello, this is LAS VEGAS. People have been known to go out and have a good time there once in a while. Try it some time. That's why Las Vegas gets all of those conferences, duh.
Without people like me at CES hack bloggers pretending to be journalists like you wouldn't have any new products to write about. If anything, I'm the one actually creating something new, and you are the peripheral hanger-on providing little added value...
Re:The joy of CES by rrohbeck · 2012-01-12 17:01 · Score: 1

What, no free strip club visit? Lame.

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Re:The joy of CES by Dahamma · 2012-01-12 17:35 · Score: 1

No, but there was an interesting story about a demo/interview where Belladonna learned to use a "uniquely shaped" remote control (sadly I missed that year...)
Re:The joy of CES by Ihmhi · 2012-01-12 17:42 · Score: 1

Anime cons, comic cons, etc. are pretty much the same way.
A third of the fun is the event itself.
A third of the fun is being with your friends.
And the last third of the fun is being far, far, far away from family and responsibility and being ever so close to wonderfully priced bars with fantastic beers and ales on tap.

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Re:The joy of CES by drsquare · 2012-01-13 22:50 · Score: 1

I'm pretty sure you can go to restaurants and clubs in Vegas any time, you don't need to spend all week looking at TVs that are slightly thinner than the one you already have.
Re:The joy of CES by Dahamma · 2012-01-14 08:54 · Score: 1

Yeah, but this way you can get free airfare, hotel room, meals, and be paid for looking at slightly thinner TVs...

Past attendee by khellendros1984 · 2012-01-12 09:53 · Score: 3, Interesting

I went in 2007 as an unemployed student. A group of us printed business cards labelled with our Computer Science club's name, made up positions for everyone, and drove to Vegas. Most of the others got "engineering" badges. I think it was required for at least one "sales" person to go...and I ended up with that badge.

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Re:Past attendee by hitmark · 2012-01-12 11:35 · Score: 1

I hope said card was properly disposed of, that is drenched in gasoline and set on fire, once the show was over.

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Missing the obvious... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 09:55 · Score: 2, Insightful

If only 1% of the attendees that go to these kinds of tradeshows are the "right" attendees and the rest are a bunch of folks fibbing their way in or otherwise finding the loophole, is that not demonstrating a desire in the marketplace for the other 99% who attend (consumers?) who WANT to attend this type of show?

In my opinion, maybe they are missing an opportunity to host purely consumer facing tradeshows as contrasted with "industry only" ones.

I for one think CES' policy has been beneficial - they've gotten a lot more consumers in the door than planned but it's usually good for business.

Re:Missing the obvious... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 10:39 · Score: 0

Yeah, let's figure out a way to reduce our gate take by 99%.
Re:Missing the obvious... by Obfuscant · 2012-01-12 12:20 · Score: 2

If only 1% of the attendees that go to these kinds of tradeshows are the "right" attendees and the rest are a bunch of folks fibbing their way in or otherwise finding the loophole, is that not demonstrating a desire in the marketplace for the other 99% who attend (consumers?) who WANT to attend this type of show?
That may be true.

In my opinion, maybe they are missing an opportunity to host purely consumer facing tradeshows as contrasted with "industry only" ones.
For there to be a "purely consumer facing tradeshow", you need two things. First, consumers who want to come. You appear to have that.
But more important, you need vendors who want to spend the time and money displaying wares TO THE CONSUMERS at such a show. That's what you don't have.
But let's say you find a bunch of vendors who would come to such a show. Since the intended target has changed, their presentation would change, and you'd lose the interest of the consumers in attending a "special" show like that.
People come to CES for the swag, which is fallout of the vendors sucking up to qualified buyers. If the audience changes from qualified buyers to general public, the vendors will change tactics, too. Isn't that just what happened to COMDEX?
Re:Missing the obvious... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 14:40 · Score: 0

Ok, so maybe having consumer-facing tradeshows does cause the vendors to change tactics. But why do they have to? What if the vendors received a cut of ticket sales to an event like this, in addition to all the publicity they get?
Still, I don't get something - there is an aspect of these tradeshows that is purely fun for attendees that are consumers - and they seem to want to enjoy these aspects enough to sneak in.
Why can't there be a version of this hypothetical "consumer" tradeshow, which still feels purely fun and cool like CES does, as a consumer who snuck in under the guise of an industry affiliate or whatever.
Heck, yes, I'd even pay to get in (but not thousands of dollars - maybe $50-100) if I felt like I was getting to see the latest upcoming goodies, play with them, and get some free swag.
Comic-con seems to do pretty well, and it is pretty strongly consumer facing...

NAB is better by soundguy · 2012-01-12 10:01 · Score: 4, Interesting

CES is mainly a bunch of useless consumer crap. The high end of that market, plus all the professional gear is at NAB. It's the same megavendors and the display spaces are almost identical for both shows, but NAB has much cooler stuff on display.

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Re:NAB is better by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 11:19 · Score: 1

It's the same megavendors
http://www.nabshow.com/2012/exhibits/exhibitor_list.asp
Really? Most of the megavendors are absent... In fact, the NAB is mostly irrelevant.
Re:NAB is better by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 14:46 · Score: 2, Interesting

Mod GP up.
That list the parent linked is a who's fucking who of the content creation and distribution industry. Players like Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Canon, RED, Avid, Christie, Grass Valley, etc. These guys make the cameras that capture and record the content. They make the post-production systems that edit and finish it. They make the high-end displays and broadcast monitors that common televisions that you see at CES are derived from.
Without the content generation industry and the $BIG BUCKS$ behind it, simple consumer gear that you see at CES would be mostly irrelevant.
Remember that the "customers" at NAB are people like NBC, CBS, BBC, CNN, etc, and their affiliate stations, and the gear they buy and the money they are willing to spend on quality equipment dwarves the cheap crap that ends up in a consumer's home for bargain basement prices. And by "quality equipment", I mean things like remote HD cameras with helicopter mounts for the local traffic/news channel that will broadcast live via satellite to a terrestrial broadcast station. Real expensive shit.
Like the GP said, much cooler stuff on display.
Re:NAB is better by Rich0 · 2012-01-13 07:36 · Score: 1

Relevance depends on industry. If you're a consumer wanting to buy a camera then you're going to care far more about CES than NAB. If you're a broadcaster looking for an HD studio camera that outputs in some studio-specific format with attachments for teleprompters, monitors, and 47 remote control features, then you're going to care far more about NAB. The former sells $500-5000 gadgets to yuppies, and the latter sells $20k-$20M solutions to industry. Maybe at the intermediate price ranges there might be a bit of crossover, but otherwise the only thing they have in common is that some suppliers make products for both and they're in the same city.
Every industry has exhibits like these - if you're shopping for a robot that builds cars chances are you will find both CES and NAB completely irrelevant.

I went a couple years ago, just BS'd the reg form by sco_robinso · 2012-01-12 10:37 · Score: 2

I went in Jan 2007, since I was going to be in Vegas the whole week anyways on vacation... I thought it would be really cool to see something as big as CES. It was indeed impressive. It's just so big and lively that I would consider it bucket-list material for any techy type.

But I'm just a lowly ol' sysadmin - I have nothing to do with the consumer electronics industry, other than working with a lot of the stuff in my day to day IT life. I just went to the CEA's website, signed myself up as a 'product buyer', and that was it - registration was auto-accepted and got in no problem. I even skipped the $99 fee because I registered early.

When I was there, my nametag said 'Buyer', so sometimes people would ask me what kind of industry/company I was a buyer for, so I just spewed a bit of BS. Depending on the booth or gadget in question, this actually worked to my favor. I got a lot of good info on some products I was interested in. I even came right at doors-open on the first day, and entered myself into a bunch of earlybird draws. I went to the slingbox exhibit and I my business card was one of two that got drawn for the (at the time) highest-end slingbox device. Despite the 50/50 odds, I lost. True story though!

tl;dr - I BS'd and got in no problem.

Who goes to CES? by pak9rabid · 2012-01-12 10:41 · Score: 1

Not Paul Christoforo.

In Soviet Russia by Roachie · 2012-01-12 10:42 · Score: 1

CES come to YOU!

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Who will go to CES... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-01-12 10:50 · Score: 0

...once the first Sonic Screwdriver is invented ready to be show cased ;)

Re:Legislate by Dogtanian · 2012-01-12 10:52 · Score: 1

It's partly a comment on society, not the article in question.

Oh, okay. "Offtopic".

It seems every 5th article on /. is how the government wants to get involved in yet another area of life.

Yet, oddly, despite the number of relevant opportunities this would imply, you posted the comment as a response to *this* article you concede it doesn't apply to.

Most recently is SOPA which is more related to CES than other examples.

You didn't mention SOPA in your original post, and there was no indication that this was what you meant. You're simply trying to justify your original offtopic comment by retrospectively adding a tenuous link via the current hot topic du jour.

This article is another example of people introducing a non-problem as a problem.

No, it's not- quite the opposite. As I already said, no-one else was complaining or implying this. It was only you why tried to make it appear that way.

It's also general sarcastic comment as to the newsworthiness of this article, which I did read, BTW.

Defensive much? I don't recall myself or anyone else actually saying (nor even implying) that you *hadn't* read the article!

And please stop backpedalling. The "sarcastic" part of your post wasn't being sarcastic about the newsworthiness, it was sarcastically attacking the nonexistent plea for government involvement that no-one was actually making.

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Microsoft did the smart thing by Albert+Sandberg · 2012-01-12 10:58 · Score: 2

I think MicroSoft actually got more from the fuzz of not going to CES than any other company actually being there is going to get.

Proof: The only thing I know about CES this year is that MicroSoft won't be there...

Re:Microsoft did the smart thing by GreenEnvy22 · 2012-01-12 13:01 · Score: 1

Microsoft is there this year, large booth, opening night keynote. NEXT year they won't be there, at least not in such a large way.
Re:Microsoft did the smart thing by Confusador · 2012-01-12 18:23 · Score: 1

It is kind of telling that the only thing you know about CES this year is wrong. If you're part of their target audience, they have a problem.

Salesmen by Osgeld · 2012-01-12 12:18 · Score: 1

99% of what CES is for is salesmen to sell product to distribute to their customers though their sales force, so the people working the booth are salesmen selling to salesmen

I'm Handsome in Vegas by iliketrash · 2012-01-12 19:16 · Score: 1

I just returned from the CES and can report that when I'm in Las Vegas, I'm very handsome to very pretty blonde women who want to meet me later for a drink. Which is to say, they let hookers into the CES.

Just got back from CES. by BLToday · 2012-01-12 19:37 · Score: 1

Better than the last few years. Generally a better mood by everyone (vendors, attendees, etc.) Swags were decent this year. Booth babes are trashier than previous years. Maybe this is a result of the adult convention following CES this year instead of it happening at the same time or some overlapping as in other years. Usually, the booth babes are pretty models, this year they look like strippers with duck lips. Nothing really caught my eyes, the 8K display was nice but I don't know when I can have that in my house.

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