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Multiple Sclerosis Damage Washed Away By Stream of Young Blood
FatLittleMonkey writes "A new study on mice suggests damage caused by diseases like Multiple sclerosis, as well as natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice. Multiple sclerosis is a chronic inflammatory disease that erodes the fatty myelin sheaths around the axons of the brain and spinal cord, and can result in serious disability. Similar effects occur naturally with aging. From New Scientist: 'White blood cells called macrophages from the young mice gathered at the sites of myelin damage. Macrophages engulf and destroy pathogens and debris, including destroyed myelin. "We know this debris inhibits regeneration, so clearing it up is important," says team member Amy Wagers of Harvard University.' Here's the academic paper's abstract."
Need to bathe me in some virgin blood - Ahahahahaha!
A use for all those annoying neighborhood children.
There aren't any credible reasons to believe that aspartame causes MS. If that were the case you wouldn't expect the highest rate of MS in the world to be in Seattle where folks tend to be fairly paranoid about aspartame and artificial sweeteners in general.
We should try it anyway. For Marty's sake.
Professor Farnsworth knew it all along, so did Mr. Burns.
You can't handle the truth.
One of the points made in Kim Stanley Robinson's trilogy beginning with Red Mars is that even with things like multiple space elevators, you'd never be able to move more people off the planet than are being born everywhere on it. The colonization of space is not a solution for population pressures.
I'm afraid not. There is no conclusive link between aspartame and MS within the scientific community. Such claims are often repeated by doctors-turned-authors, scam artists, and conspiracy theorists, though.
Moving on, I do wish this madness with stem cells would end. They have their own soul as much as my feces (mostly dead blood cells and bacteria) do.
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
I always thought the high incidence of MS in Seattle was due to their headquarters being in Redmond
*ducks
Monstar L
It's not hard to find more than one page suggesting it's just a hoax.
http://laurafreberg.com/blog/?p=55
Maybe one day we'll learn the truth (the truth is out there) but something just seems fishy to me. I know someone with MS who drinks lots of diet coke, I don't trust it.
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I've been diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. Started with lesions in my spine taking out all the sensation from my neck to my hips for a month or so, then the blindness in one eye, since then various bouts of stocking+gloves neuropathy that come and go, mixed with random sensations of walking barefoot on gravel and every now and then I lean right while walking in a straight line.
At the time of the first incident, I was drinking about 2 liters (straight from the bottle) of non-diet Dr. Pepper a day, and didn't touch the diet stuff.
Now I drink the diet stuff (still about 2L/day) and lost 60 pounds. Doesn't seem to make a difference neurologically to me. YMMV.
I am not really sure to be honest. I do not see what these individuals can benefit from scaring people away from aspartame? The security industry? I am suspicious of aspartame because it was/has been manufactured by Monsanto and know people with MS who drink too much diet colas.
http://bolenreport.com/feature_articles/feature_article062.htm
http://laurafreberg.com/blog/?p=55
There is at least a link to symptoms that are similar to MS. Given the number of people who drink diet coke, there must be some people who are sensitive to it.
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MS and MSFT are both equally virulent diseases which have resisted our efforts to cure.
I suspect you'd also see a huge correlation between Type 1 (and maybe even Type 2) Diabetics and MS if aspartame was a causal link. Since I was diagnosed with Type 1, I consume massive amounts of artificial sweeteners to avoid sugar.
Given the number of people who drink diet coke, there must be some people who are sensitive to it.
Just about every product both natural and artificial has some people that are sensitive to it. If you decide not to eat something because someone somewhere is sensitive to it then I can assure you that you will die of starvation. As to what the people scaring others have to gain, money, notoriety, attention, research dollars, market share.
Heinlein made that point in Farmer in the Sky, in 1953.
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I could see this becoming a new business in the third world. Selling children's blood would not be far fetched. Look up were all (or most) of the hair for natural wigs and extensions comes from: Little girls in India.
Ugh, this aspartame nonsense is the worst kind of pseudo science. I suppose you also believe that vaccines cause autism? What about peach-pits curing cancer?
Wait, let me guess: the "medical establishment" doesn't want you to know the "shocking truth".
Looking below, it looks like you also believe Monsanto is in on the conspiracy!
I'd laugh if spreading nonsense like you've been doing wasn't so dangerous. People like you are causing real and measurable harm.
Leave medical science to the experts. Hmmm... I better clarify that: Reading a few conspiracy websites does NOT make you an expert!
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natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice.
That explains how Dick Cheney manages to hang on so long; he's been sucking the life force from local villagers at night.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
"A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual..."
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
I hate to break it to you, but he has Parkinson's, not MS.
when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a skull.
Even cheaper, and something that can't be patented by unscrupulous scientists and pharmaceutical companies, but researchers have already found MS can be reversed by changing your diet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc
Dr. Terry Wahl presented at TEDxIowaCity that eating nutrient dense foods reversed her second stage MS, and they have moved on to trying it is more subjects. But it sure won't get government stem cell money. And the recommendations fly in the face of government dietary recommendations. Not to mention probably more than a few slashdotters habits.
Compare, trials in mice. Versus clinical trials in humans.
As mentioned elsewhere, the scammers sell books and gain fame, which they use to sell more books and get on talk shows.
Distrusting a biological chemical because it was once manufactured by a biochemical company who makes some particularly nasty products is as ludicrous as trusting a product because its company has made a few good products lately. Do you think they somehow encode pure evil into the molecule, and it's somehow never noticed by the myriad safety studies?
iPads suck for slash dot. I will cease my rant now...
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
You sir are arrogant and unpleasant. Maybe in X years we will truly find out how safe these things are. There is no conspiracy, only a link.
People like you do not see things before they are too late. People who stop and think about things (and witness them) are people who discover problems. Nobody thought X was harmful until it was too late. Maybe I am wrong about aspartame, I honestly have no idea, I just thought I would throw it out there. There is plenty of sources that state both angles.
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It looks like, for once, we could actually see a treatment in a relatively short period of time.
No, it is that Monsanto has a bad reputation for manipulating public opinion and suppressing facts. There are many front groups that are funded by corporate interests. To ignore this when judging the merits of research is folly.
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Way to counter somebody's snopes link with the very same links the snopes article completely debunks. Everything on their is completely false. It's proven fictional writing featuring made-up doctors and absurd MSG-Floride-Aspartame Zionist New World Order conspiracy garbage. You have been conned, and not even by a slightly convincing troll. It's just painful how nonsensical that bullshit is. The "link" you are going on about is this: Decades ago an actual researcher left their email logged in, and somebody else sent out a terribly awful troll chain letter about the evils of aspartame. They mention that it metabolizes into methanol (true) and that methanol poisoning has MS/Parkinsons like symptoms (true) and concluded therefore that aspartame causes MS and Parkinsons (as well as about 50 other diseases from heart disease and stroke to cancer). And when the actual doctor said "I didn't send that" well that was just more proof for all of those "in the know" about the evils of the Monsanto or the UN or whoever is using aspartame to make money / brainwash people into supporting the NWO / whatever it is they're doing. They had back-traced the email and threatened this researcher, forcing them to recant, clearly, so that's all the proof you need! They wouldn't have made this researcher pretend they never sent the bogus email unless it was true!
At any rate, it's not MS aspartame causes, it's cancer. A friend in highschool told me. Her chainsmoking diabetic grandma died of cancer, and she drank a ton of died 7-up. QED.
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
natural aging, can be reversed by an infusion of stem cell rich blood from younger mice
Drink young blood, stay young forever...now where have I heard that before?
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
1. Stalk pretty young girl. The younger the better.
2. Extract her blood with a needle and inject yourself with it while it is still warm.
3. Rinse. Repeat.
4. Solve Rubik's Cube and prepare for eternal life.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
I may have been wrong about singling out aspartame, it could be another chemical that is in diet colas.
See, you still don't have any correlation between diet soda and MS!
People like you do not see things before they are too late.
Perhaps MS is caused by fumes released by scented candles? We better warn everyone of the dangers!
Oh, maybe it's caused by exposure to residue left from tub & tile cleaner? Stop cleaning the bathroom now! We don't know if we're safe!
You sir are arrogant and unpleasant.
Quite possibly. However, people like you are a serious danger to society. Not only do you spread misinformation, but countering that nonsense takes resources away from more productive avenues of research. If that weren't enough, you call attention to all the idiotic consipriacy sights that may be spreading even more dangerous nonsense, like the false vaccine-autism link that has caused the deaths of hundreds of young children.
I'll take arrogant and unpleasant over that any day.
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"loose"
trollin away the day.
The study was made in cooperation with the University of Transylvania.
"It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
MS was recently linked to vitamin D deficiency.
Not a sentence!
Second, all the big advances have come not from fetal embryo harvests, but from adult stem cells that have been repurposed in the lab.
And until there's a change in US policy, it'll probably stay that way.
Embryonic stem cell research was leaving the US to take advantage of Europe's more liberal laws,
BUT last year, the European Court of Justice banned patents on procedures that involve embryonic stem cells.
So now the research is going to go where the profits are, which are creating stem cells from non-embryonic sources.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
Easy enough, right? Just get regular transfusions from someone young. Except nobody is going to advocate blood donations from children. Could you have your own cells harvested, reverted to stem cells, and reintroduced into your bloodstream?
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
I only submitted the story because of the original headline "MS damage washed away by a stream of young blood", in anticipation of Microsoft jokes. (Curse you, competent editors.) Glad to see I got my jokes after all.
Thank you sir and/or madam.
Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
The cells of the human body have a limited lifespan. The aging process is basically you running out of replacement cells. Using blood transfusions will help some, but it's the stem cells that will make you young. And stem cells from someone else will trigger your immune system- and using anti-rejection drugs is a horrible way to live. So you want your own rejuvenated stem cells, and getting there should only be one Apollo project equivalent away- so about 10 years if you have the money. The second issue- it will cost. So most medical plans won't cover this. Meaning the rich get to live forever, not you. And if you don't see a problem with that, just think of Bill Gates NOT getting old and retiring. Ever. Having a ruling class of immortals running the earth is how that will end. Rich enough they don't care about you, from another generation so they don't understand you, owning everything and constantly looking for the next google so they can buy it up. This would make a cool plot for a science fiction movie, but in real life it will suck.
You are conducting various logical fallacies including slippery slopes and ad-hominem attacks
Conducting? I think you mean committing.
As for "slippery slopes", you're 100% wrong there.
Ad-hominem? Undoubtedly. Of course, it's not a fallacy as I'm not trying to dismiss your argument by attacking you -- I'm attacking you because you're spreading misinformation.
Perhaps you should learn what those terms mean before you try using them!
Look outside, pretty much everything can kill you if you are unlucky.
So we should warn everyone of every possible danger, even if there is no evidence to support it? That's what's at issue here: the nonsense you're spreading about aspartame causing MS. There is no evidence to support that claim, yet here you are warning us about a possible danger! There isn't even any reason to suspect it!
Oh, but there's danger all around. Better not light any scented candles or clean the bathroom with any of those dangerous cleaners! You never know, they could kill you!
If you did not know people who react badly to certain things (or strange allergies) you would think it is crackpot.
No, I understand that people have strange allergies. I wouldn't call them crackpots; they're just unlucky. I am calling you a crackpot, for spreading nonsense about aspartame causing MS with absolutely no evidence!
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Two liters of soda pop a day!! Good god man are you mad!
It's due to a hoax that made the email rounds years ago and it's never been completely eradicated. People keep it going because of irrational fears and conspiracy theories.
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vitamin-d-and-ms/AN01894 There are a large number of clouds in Seattle. Sunlight is a primary source of vitamin D.
Not a sentence!
http://www.terrywahls.com/
"In 2003 Terry Wahls, M.D., was diagnosed with secondary progressive multiple sclerosis and soon became dependent upon a tilt-recline wheelchair. After developing and using the Wahls Protocol, she is now able to walk through the hospital and commute to work by bicycle. She now uses intensive directed nutrition in her primary care and traumatic brain injury clinics. Dr. Wahls is the lead scientist in a clinical trial testing her protocol in others with progressive MS. "
Also:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/12/23/overcoming-multiple-sclerosis-through-diet.aspx
Her work was done In Iowa, so maybe a little better then Transylvania? :-)
See also my other comment to this article mentioning Dr. Joel Fuhrman and Dr. John Cannell; with links here:
http://www.changemakers.com/discussions/discussion-493#comment-38823
Perhaps there is some nutrients and vitamin D and such in the blood of young creatures? But you can get it from vegetables, sunlight, and other things instead of blood...
From Dr. Wahls' site:
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I am a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine in Iowa City, Iowa, U.S.A., where I teach internal medicine residents in their primary care clinics. I also do clinical research and have published over 60 peer-reviewed scientific abstracts, posters and papers.
In addition to being a doctor, I am also a patient with a chronic, progressive disease. I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting multiple sclerosis in 2000, just as I began working for the University. By 2003 I had transitioned to secondary progressive multiple sclerosis. I underwent chemotherapy in an attempt to slow the disease and began using a tilt-recline wheelchair because of weakness in my back muscles. It was clear: eventually I would become bedridden by my disease. I wanted to forestall that fate asmy long as possible.
Because of my academic medical training, I know that research in animal models of disease is often 20 or 30 years ahead of clinical practice. Hoping to find something to arrest my descent into becoming bedridden, I used PubMed.gov to begin searching the scientific articles about the latest multiple sclerosis research. Night after night, I relearned biochemistry, cellular physiology, and neuroimmunology to understand the articles. Unfortunately, most of the studies were testing drugs that were years away from FDA approval. Then it occurred to me to search for vitamins and supplements that helped any kind of progressive brain disorder. Slowly I created a list of nutrients important to brain health and began taking them as supplements. The steepness of my decline slowed, for which I was grateful, but I still was declining.
In the fall of 2007, I had an important epiphany. What if I redesigned my diet so that I was getting those important brain nutrients not from supplements but from the foods I ate? It took more time to create this new diet, intensive directed nutrition, which I designed to provide optimal nutrition for my brain. At that time, I also learned about neuromuscular electrical stimulation and convinced my physical therapist to give me a test session. It hurt, a lot, but I also felt euphoric when it was finished, likely because of the endorphins my body released in response to the electrical stimulation. In December 2007, I began my intensive directed nutrition along with a program of progressive exercise, electrical stimulation, and daily meditation. The results stunned my physician, my family and me: within a year, I was able to walk through the hospital without a cane and even complete an 18-mile bicycle tour.
In 2007 I was losing my phone and keys and was afraid my chief of staff would soon be calling me
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.