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Drone Guides Fuel Shipment to Alaskan Town

pigrabbitbear writes with an excerpt from an article at Motherboard.tv about a non-evil use for unmanned aircraft: "Ask anyone in Nome, Alaska right now how they feel about surveillance drones and you'll likely get unequivocally high praise. Had a remotely-piloted surveillance aircraft not been monitoring Bering Sea ice flows over the past week an emergency shipment of 1.3 million gallons of oil may not have reached the iced-in, snow-drifted town as soon as it did. ... The drone, which was launched from Nome's shores by University of Alaska – Fairbanks Geophysical Institute researchers, isn't the sort of eye-in-the-sky most often associated with the U.S.'s various hulking, 40-foot wing-spanning reconnaissance planes ... The Aeryon Scout micro unmanned aerial vehicle resembles a 'smoke detector with wings and legs,' according to the Anchorage Daily News, and is part and parcel of a rapidly expanding fleet of mid- to micro-sized sky robots being flown domestically for all manner of tedious or risky intelligence gathering gigs."

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  1. Its not the drones that are the problem by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not the drones that people have a problem with; It's how they're used. No amount of positive publicity on their 'good' uses can erase the fact that many, if not most, law enforcement agencies envision an armada of cheap surveillance drones monitoring everyone and everyplace they decide they don't like. Protesting wall street? Drones. Add in the crowd-control microwave emitter for only an additional $2,999. How about some drones patrolling over the freeways during rush hour, equipped with a radar gun? Now an officer can write tickets for anyone speeding over a several mile stretch of road, rather than just a particular point. Only $1,599 after mail in rebate. The list goes on.

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    1. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by jhoegl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Im more interested in the live feed from Sorority Houses.

    2. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      -noun- don't -verb- people. People -verb- people.

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    3. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Thermal imaging cameras are invaluable for certain engineering work.
      They can also be used to violate your rights and 'look' into your house.

      Russian journalists have used drones to get arial photos of the Moscow riots.

      And this just in Hammers used to build houses can also be used to beat people's skulls in.

    4. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      -noun- don't -verb- people. People -verb- people.

      some people -adverb-ly -verb- people with -noun-s, even. Especially -adjective- -noun-s.

    5. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by treeves · · Score: 2

      Frog don't lick people. People lick people.

      Hmm. I'm not sure how that template works.

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    6. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by artor3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's so bad about the scenarios you've listed?

      The cops surveiling Occupy protests with drones... what's supposed to be scary about that? There are already cops at the scene. Why are we supposed to be scared that they now have an extra camera angle? Is it only if they have your hypothetical microwave emitter equipped on the drone? Because if so, that's a reason to be against microwave emitters, not drones, and at any rate it's unlikely they'd ever use them. They tried to the low tech equivalent (firehoses) against civil rights protestors, and it didn't do squat for them.

      And for your other example, a more uniform enforcement of traffic laws would be a good thing. Right now they're so spottily enforced that a lot of people ignore them, and it becomes a tax by lottery. If they were enforced uniformly, it would become a bad driving tax instead, which would be preferable.

      There's nothing cops can do with drones that they can't do with helicopters. The only difference is drones are cheaper. Unless your plan to defend civil liberties relies on the cops not being able to afford enforcement, there's no reason to be worried by drones. And if your plan does rely on impoverished police departments, you've got other things to worry about.

    7. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by Beelzebud · · Score: 2

      It depends on who is operating, and controlling the drones. We have this thing called a constitution, and it states that the military isn't supposed to be used as a police force. Of course, we're in the process of arming our police forces exactly like a military unit, so that line is becoming blurred.

    8. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by JDG1980 · · Score: 2

      The reason we hand out drivers' licenses at the drop of a hat is that in most parts of the US, driving is a necessary part of being an independent adult. That is due to the physical layout of our country and is not going to change in the forseeable future. What will happen eventually is that automatic driving systems like the ones currently being tested by Google and other companies will become ready for public consumption, and by a decade or so after their initial release, all new cars will have them. Then we can change the laws to make it much harder to get a license allowing manual driving, while everyone else (including children and drunks) can use the automated driving system to get from Point A to Point B.

    9. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by camperdave · · Score: 2

      Camo? In the city? Who's bright idea was that?

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    10. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by C0R1D4N · · Score: 2

      Cops surveying footage is considered sufficient. Red light cameras operate under this all over the country.

    11. Re:Its not the drones that are the problem by bigrockpeltr · · Score: 2

      we would need to map the star positions and physical landmarks to triangulate their general location first. Then its party with the hot girls baby!

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  2. Great! by jhoegl · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I guess Iceroad Truckers had the month off.
    I thought they would drive through anything including snow drifts. I am so disillusioned. :(

  3. Man is an intriguing being... by bogaboga · · Score: 2

    I just wonder why someone would be willing to live in a place that is by all measures a risky place to establish a life. Why? When I think of the polar bear, the weather, the isolation and so on, I fail to see the reason why I would want to live there. Man is surely intriguing.

    1. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by Ironchew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just wonder why someone would be willing to live in a place that is by all measures a risky place to establish a life. Why? When I think of the polar bear, the weather, the isolation and so on, I fail to see the reason why I would want to live there. Man is surely intriguing.

      Some people like to be closer to nature than others. It's a risky thing to do, but the Earth is a beautiful place, and that's fulfillment enough for those people.

    2. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just wonder why someone would be willing to live in a place that is by all measures a risky place to establish a life. Why? When I think of the polar bear, the weather, the isolation and so on, I fail to see the reason why I would want to live there. Man is surely intriguing.

      Yes we are intriguing. Other people might say the same about living in a city.
      Noise level, crowding, crime, expense, risk of getting hit by a motor vehicle, etc, etc.

      To each his own.

    3. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or, that's where your family is from. Nome started out as a Inupiat settlement, then morphed into a Gold Rush town. Much of the population is Alaska Native and the rest are just basically crazy.

      It's an odd life, but makes more sense than living in Cleveland.

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    4. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Exactly. if you want to be close to nature come to a state like AR, where its lush green wherever you see and land is cheap so you can own your own holler and have as much nature as you desire. my GF's family own their own holler up in the Ozarks and i just love going up there to spend a week because i can sit on the front porch and enjoy my lunch while watching a herd of deer graze not 60 feet from my seat. Of course you gotta watch the squirrels on the back patio, the grandkids have fed them so much they park their little fat asses on the back patio not 10 feet from you and if you don't throw them a snack they start chattering at you like they are saying "Hey asshole, i'm right here looking all cute and shit and STILL no nuts, WTF? what's a squirrel gotta do to get some of those raisins man?". If its something they really love like dried fruits or cashews you can just stretch your hand out palm up and they will come pick the fruits right out of your hand.

      Its really beautiful country with miles and miles of unspoiled wilderness you can enjoy, fishing, hunting, whitewater rafting, or just being lazy with an inner-tube and a cold one on a lazy Sunday afternoon, its just nice. It also only snows a couple of days a year and almost never sticks except on the mountain tops so its a hell of a lot nicer even in the winter than something like Nome. how them folks live in that kind of cold is just beyond me, hell you have people dressing like Eskimos if it drops below freezing here and its a lovely 62 degrees f right now, light breeze, just wonderful. i'll take that over freezing my nads off any day of the week!

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    5. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by tomhath · · Score: 3, Interesting
      One of my favorite stories, I think from Farley Mowat, is about a group of sociologists who were studying people in remote fishing villages accessible only by small boat along the coast of Newfoundland. One elderly woman they talked to had never in her life been away from the town where she was born. She'd never heard of New York City; they tried to describe it to her - millions of people living in buildings hundreds of feet tall. In response she shook her head and thought out loud "I can't imagine why so many people would want to live so far away from everything".

      I fail to see the reason why I would want to live there.

      You and than old woman are the same...

    6. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly. if you want to be close to nature come to a state like AK where it's blanket white wherever you see and land is cheap so you can own your own bog and have as much nature as you desire. my GF's family own their own bog up near Fairbanks and i just love going up there to spend a week because i can sit on the front porch and enjoy my lunch while watching a herd of caribou graze not 60 feet from my seat. Of course you gotta watch the Polar Bears on the back patio, the grandkids have been fed to them so so long they park their little fat asses on the back patio not 10 feet from you and if you don't throw them a snack they start growling at you "Hey asshole, I'm right here and if you don't feed me some dog food, then you're next. WTF? What's a endangered species gotta do to get some of those calories man?". If its something they really love like a can of Alpo or a steak, they might take it out of your hand and leave the hand alone. Then again, they might not.

      Its really beautiful country with miles and miles of unspoiled wilderness you can enjoy, fishing, hunting, snowmobiling, or just being hypothermic with a survival suit and sleeping bag on a cold afternoon, its just nice, if your survive that is. It also only stops snowing a couple of days a year and almost never melts except under the houses so its a hell of a lot colder than a New York City hooker. How them folks live in those big cities is just beyond me, hell you have people dressing like it was Halloween pretty much every day of the year.s Right now, there's hardly a soul in site, just the sun barely above the horizon and 60 mph winds. I'll take that over traffic jams any day of the week.

      There, I made it a bit more topical.

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    7. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by rrhal · · Score: 2

      The Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend is paid by the state. The amount varies year by year. It has been ~ $1200 for the last few years.

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    8. Re:Man is an intriguing being... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 2

      It's only partly that the oil resources belong to the state. It's that the state has a 25% severance tax.

      http://www.centerfortaxstudies.com/blog/taxnews/2007/12/27/alaska_severance_tax_governor_signs_petr

      http://housemajority.org/coms/hres/27/History_of_Alaskas_Oil_Gas_Production_Tax_Roger_Marks_20110209.pdf

      The amount made from severance tax is higher than the amount received from royalties on production on state lands.

      25% (at least! When oil is worth more than $30/bbl the rate is higher) of the value of every barrel of oil pulled from the ground in the state is paid to the state in taxes. This produces more money than the state needs, so they distribute the excess equally in a socialist fashion as a lump sum payout to residents of the state.

      The state collects this tax because they know that the oil is being by-and-large sold to other states in the union and the costs of the tax are passed onto the consumers, the population of the US, 99% of which doesn't live in Alaska. This money goes to the statehouse in Alaska and then some of it onto the residents.

      California, as a counter-example, has no severance tax at all, even though California is the 3rd largest oil producing state in the US and 90% of the population of the US lives outside California.

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  4. Forgive my ignorance... by omganton · · Score: 2

    ...but does it really matter that it was unmanned? There was no inherent risk for a regular pilot to monitor the same situation. I would hardly consider this a " tedious or risky intelligence gathering gig."

  5. FAA authorized? by theNAM666 · · Score: 2

    Did they get FAA authorization? Enquiring bureaucrats want to know.

  6. So do we know it was the drone? by jakartus · · Score: 2

    Or would the geek in us just like to assume it?

    From http://dec.alaska.gov/Spar/renda/index.htm

    01/11/2012 - The T/V Renda and CGC Healy have not travelled any significant distance since noon yesterday. The vessels remain approximately 100 nautical miles from Nome. An experienced U.S. ice navigator hired by Vitus Marine as a technical advisor arrived safely on board the Healy around 4:00 PM today. He may transfer to Renda after assessing the challenges from on board the Healy.

    01/12/2012 - The vessels worked until approximately 12:30 am this morning and made good progress. They are currently about 70 miles from Nome and hopeful for continued good progress today. (updated 10:15am)

    01/13/2012 - At this time, the Renda is staying offshore while the Healy is making runs to test the ice and determine the best place for the Renda to moor for the fuel transfer.

  7. Perpetual "eye-in-the-sky" by wisebabo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So here's a question for the skilled do it yourselfers in the slashdot crowd.

    I figure that one of those "micro-drones" only use a few(?) watts of power right? How much does the Parrot quad copter use?

    Well, could you (sorry, not me, unfortunately I don't have the hacking skills :( attach a solar panel facing DOWN on one of those drones and then affix a little infrared LED on the drone. A modest ground based telescope would track the LED and continuously point a medium(?) powered laser at the solar panel. (That's one place where the hacking comes in, to have a motorized base track the drone and to provide safeties in case the laser lost "lock").

    Voila! As long as the drone stays in line of sight of the base (and as long as power doesn't give out) you've got a modest little perpetual aerial surveillance platform. Can lasers of the requisite power/frequency be purchased without too much of a headache from the authorities? Can small drones fight gusts and high winds so that they'll stay up most of the time?

    This reminds me of the floating "golden eyes" used by Larry Niven as surveillance tools in his novels. Someone in Japan made a spherical drone that did this but I think it could only stay up for 10 minutes on one battery charge. If the solar cells were light enough/laser was powerful enough perhaps that drone could be used.

    Is the visible/infrared the best part of the spectrum to use? Would a maser (with microwave power receiver) be better in terms of efficiency or safety?

  8. BzzzztThankYouForPlayng... by Gription · · Score: 2

    Traffic courts are the end point of a revenue supply stream. Judges do not make, "Gee, was there a valid reason?" types of decisions. They make "Is it humanly possible to apply this law here and are all the 'T's crossed?" types of decisions.

    The enforcement and fee structure of our traffic laws are based on extremely low chances of getting caught. If every possible infraction was enforced in every possible instance the average driver's license would be ticketed to the point of suspension within an hour. The policeman is the point were discretion should be applied to decide, "Should I enforce this", and the idea that infractions should be blanket enforced by an automated, 1984ish, mechano-fascist system is insane.


    Also there is a general "knowledge" that speed is the ultimate "safety sin" that is so far from correct. The government's own NHTSA report that was released after 10 years of the "55 mile-an-hour limit" had background data that when analyzed (by someone other then the government) showed that the safest speed to be traveling was 5 to 10 mph faster then the general flow of traffic. That same study "proved" that 55 saved lives: after ignoring any other possible source for a reduction in deaths per mile such as much safer cars, massive improvements in tire safety, seat belt laws, etc... So after going with the spin that nothing else could have effected the number of fatalities, the best number they could come up with worked out to it costing an additional 150 man/years (from the reduced speeds) on the roads for every life saved. (One independent analysis pointed out that you could get the same expected reduction in fatalities by increasing the actual tire pressure in all cars by about 2 psi.)
    When a more sensible look is made at the data, it is pretty clear that once you factor out increases in passenger car safety, tire safety, and seat belt use, it shows that drivers had become worse, most likely because they had lost driving ability and when at a slower pace it encourages people to do "other things" besides drive.

    Lets be serious. Traffic enforcement is about revenue. Speed is easy to prove, it is fun/interesting for cops to enforce and the public has been led to believe that SPEED is the big scary thing, ... and lets be honest, there is something in the back of the average person's head that doesn't want someone to pass them. If speed was the CAUSE of an accident then there would be a speed where when you reached it the accident would ensue.
    If traffic enforcement was about "safety" there would be a mandate to enforce the laws as they relate to the generation of accidents: Failure to yield right-of-way, inattentive driving, and just plain incompetence.

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    And that includes detecting speed traps from above!

  9. They didn't miscalculate demand ... by garyebickford · · Score: 2

    Which is great until someone miscalculates demand and they run out of fuel in the middle of winter

    Actually what happened, IIRC, is that the normal last-before-winter-ice delivery scheduled in November had to be cancelled due to a big storm. Then they had the logistical problem of getting a tanker AND an ice breaker there at the same time.

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