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Outgoing CRTC Head Says Technology Is Eroding Canadian Culture

Patchw0rk F0g writes "Canada's outgoing CRTC head, Konrad von Finckenstein, has some choice words for his successor: Internet and wireless technology has disarmed federal regulators of their weapons to protect cultural identity. The retiring Finckenstein cites over-the-top broadcasting, new Internet technologies and (perhaps most importantly) the fact that the CRTC is antiquated and can't keep up with these emerging technologies as factors in the (still)-growing culture-loss of Canada to the U.S. 'We have now moved into an era where the consumer is in control, and where thanks to the Internet and mobile devices, you cannot control access any more,' he said in one of his last interviews."

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  1. Translation from Canadian CorpoSpeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Technology is eroding the iron hegemony of Bell and Rogers! Sheeple Canadians are starting to wake up and realize they are being bent over a barrel and are getting restless!"

    The CRTC is an unelected, largely unaccountable old-boy's club for power-players and lobbyists from Bell and Rogers. The CRTC's only mandate is protecting the duopoly of Rogers and Bell, nothing else.

    1. Re:Translation from Canadian CorpoSpeak by Mistlefoot · · Score: 3, Informative

      How can someone claim to have any understanding of the CRTC and get modded insightful when they comment on the "duopoly of Rogers and Bell".

      Neither Rogers or Bell offer anything but cell phones in over half the country. If you live in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba in the west, and much of eastern Canada as well, you cannot get TV or Internet via Rogers with the exception of 3/4g at 500mb for $50 a month. It is the same with Bell.
      But you claim to have an idea of Canadian culture.

      Additionally, the mandate of the CRTC is to ensure that Canada's providers are protecting Canada's cultural sovereignty.
      "the Canadian broadcasting system, operating primarily in the English and French languages and comprising public, private and community elements, makes use of radio frequencies that are public property and provides, through its programming, a public service essential to the maintenance and enhancement of national identity and cultural sovereignty;"

      In other words, the CRTC was created to protect Canada's sovereignty over the airwaves quite simply because TV/Radio were deemed a threat to it. For the CRTC to note that this and new technologies continue to threaten our Cultural is already something that both the government and CRTC claim and believe based upon the CRTC's continued support.

      Now, whether or not this is good or bad, I've no clear opinion.....

    2. Re:Translation from Canadian CorpoSpeak by Ian_Bailey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Neither Rogers or Bell offer anything but cell phones in over half the country. If you live in British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba in the west, and much of eastern Canada as well, you cannot get TV or Internet via Rogers with the exception of 3/4g at 500mb for $50 a month. It is the same with Bell.
      But you claim to have an idea of Canadian culture.

      Just because a company does not operate nation-wide, that does not mean that it cannot be a monopoly/duopoly. You just need to change your market definition from "Canada-wide Internet Access" to "Internet Access in B.C." or "Internet Access in Ontario." In fact, Shaw and Rogers did a swap back in 2000 to concentrate their networks along these lines: http://www.businessedge.ca/archives/article.cfm/shaw-and-rogers-in-4-billion-swap-4992

      What the original poster meant was that, in any given market in Canada, there are at most two companies then own lines into someone's home. If you're in BC, it's Telus and Shaw. If you're in Ontario, it's Bell and Rogers. In any case, these two companies are doing their best to ensure there is not a third line coming into the house, so they can keep their prices artificially high for as long as possible.

  2. Anachronism by engun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a guy who's trying to stop the wheel of time from turning.

    1. Re:Anachronism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      He's actually complaining that they can't control what we watch, or where we get it from, and that it also threatens cable companies' revenues. You are correct, in that he's trying to keep the iron grip in tact.

      As a Canadian, we usually have to deal with a certain percentage of Canadian programming and channels. For example, for every 2-3 non-Canadian channels available to be subscribed to there had to be 1 or 2 Canadian channels as well. Actual percentages differ but that is the general idea.

      Now that they can't control the above channel lineup due to media being available online to stream (NetFlix, etc) they are now worried about two things:
      1) We can watch whatever we want, in whatever percentages we want, without being limited to what's available from our local broadcaster
      2) We don't have to subscribe to our local broadcaster, which is the real reason they're worried about this - it is causing a decline in cable subscriptions

      I welcome this change, as do many Canadians, as is apparent by the decline in subscriptions and adoption of (more affordable) online streaming services.

      If these companies really were offering value for our money, this wouldn't happen - but having to purchase 45 channels when we only really watch 4-5 of them is ridiculous. Being forced to upgrade to digital TV, and pay even more, when we can't even utilize it due to older TVs etc is also ridiculous.

      For "basic" cable service, only a few years ago, used to cost around $50/month. If you order it today, it will cost around $90/month. There aren't many more channels to be had that are actually useful; the channel line-up is closer to 200+ channels, but many of them are in foreign languages, are pay-per-view, or are simply radio stations or "home shopping". Not much more value for the added amount we've been forced to pay, unless you speak languages other than English or enjoy watching infomercials or pay-to-watch content.

      Good ol' Konrad also has his head in the clouds, as the customer has little to no actual control and only a small handful of choices that reflect what's best for the broadcaster. The major cities (Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal) are a little better than others in terms of providers/choices, but you're usually limited to 1 cable provider OR satellite from a couple different providers, both being equally as expensive since the advent of digital cable.

  3. Culture loss? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    culture-loss of Canada to the U.S.

    Why is the US pointed at as the reason for their culture loss? I'd agree that the internet is causing some culture loss, but you could also counter by saying it is causing culture gains. I know personally my life has been impacted by the culture of different nations due to the readily accessible nature of information on the computer. In my house you would think it more Asian than American due to the internet.

    I also see this at my kids school. Both in style of dress and the behavior of the kids.

    While I do agree that it is important to know where you come from, I don't think it is wrong to embrace other cultures. In essence isn't that pretty much where all culture stems from, the exchange of ideas?

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    1. Re:Culture loss? by Dr.+Hellno · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This stems from the longstanding conundrum of national identity in Canada. We're a small, mainly English speaking country sitting border to border with the cultural powerhouse of the English-speaking world. So we ask ourselves, how are we unique? What makes us different? And how can we preserve these differences when American culture is so pervasive? It's not a question of embracing other cultures, which we do readily. It's more a concern that our essential character (whatever it is) will be steamrolled by Hollywood media.

      Personally I couldn't care less; I already see us as the 51st state. Let us have Pandora and Hulu already!
      But for many Canadians, the protection and nurturing of Canadian culture in the shadow of the U.S. is a preoccupation and an imperative.

    2. Re:Culture loss? by Zeromous · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He doesn't claim the US is the cause, it is the symptom of their inability to shield culture from technology.

      I think this is why most people in Canada are upset the CRTC even exists to "protect Canadian culture". This backwards notion that culture is static and not subject to disruption is offensive to most Canadians and suspect more than a few Quebecer's within Canada.

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    3. Re:Culture loss? by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed, but I'm CERTAINLY not very eager to become the 51st state. I came back after living in the US for many years and I'm very glad I did.

      I find the culture here to be far superior in many sense. There is much less of the corrosive attitudes of entitlement and arrogance that I see in the US (there still is some, just less). There is also much stronger sense of community in most places I've been in Canada, and a more trusting attitude.

      Plus, the political ideas are different. In Toronto, the subway is free on New Years. Maybe they will lose some money but they will make millions of people happy and could save some lives from drunk driving. Isn't that what the government is for? To spend a little money at the right time to make people happy, help build community and protect individuals? Brilliant!

      I have never seen a US city consider making public services free on a holiday. It seems almost like it is opposed to the core values of much of the US.

      I also see here, almost nowhere do they just assume you want a paper or plastic bag in the grocery store and if you do, you have to pay for it. More than half of shoppers bring their own canvas/cloth bags and I live in a conservative suburb and many walk to the store, despite owning cars. The only places I ever see that in the US are very liberal spots like Southern California or Boston.

    4. Re:Culture loss? by doconnor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      See! Canada does have a distinct culture. Your attitude wouldn't get very much traction up here. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is a quote from the American Declaration of Independence. The Canada equivalent is "Peace, order and good government" from the British North America Act, the legislation that established Canadian independence.

  4. bad thing? by fish_in_the_c · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The consumer ( aka normal people) are in control of their own decisions about information and culture?
    Oh no, whatever will we do.

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  5. Can we end the CRTC already by ThomasFlip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a native born white Canadian living in one of the most multicultural cities in the world and I can't stand the CRTC. Living here for 25+ years, I don't even know what Canadian culture is, let alone why we need a bureaucracy to defend it. The only people the CRTC are serving are hacky television writers whose shows get put on CBC and cancelled a year later. They are completely out of touch with reality and need to go.

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  6. As a Canadian... by Sepultura · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a Canadian, here's the solution I'd suggest:
    Stop trying to force Canadian content on Canadians!
    If the content is good and provides something consumers want then it'll be a success. If it's Canadian-created filler crap then it won't, regardless of how forcefully it's stuffed down our throats.

    And don't claim that Canadian content can't be successful on it's own because that's just bullshit. Just look at the music industry to see lots of Canadian content that's successful south of the border for the most glaring example.

  7. Weapons to protect cultural identity? by Freddybear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'We have now moved into an era where the consumer is in control, and where thanks to the Internet and mobile devices, you cannot control access any more,' he said in one of his last interviews."

    You say that like it's a bad thing, Konrad.

  8. Because Canada has a "little brother" problem by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Basically Canada is still going through issues trying to figure out what it means to be Canadian. A large part of how many Canadians seem to define themselves as as "not American" hence the "little brother" syndrome I talk about. They are like a little kid who is saying what they are is the things the big kid is not.

    This isn't such a problem for the average man on the street, of course, but it is a big issue for the government and various folks. They have a real issue with trying to decide what it is to be Canadian and protecting that. There are even things like laws requiring a certain amount of content on TV and radio to be Canadian in origin.

  9. Re:wft by stanlyb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Canadian what?

  10. Re:As an American... by Phreakiture · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll back up your point about successful Canadian content here in the US. I've also noticed an interesting side-effect of the CanCon rules . . . There's a hell of a lot of CanCon on American TV. A lot of it is pretty good, and you wouldn't notice it except for the northern accents (which don't vary that much from northern states) and an occasinoal "eh", more frequent on documentary/reality shows (e.g. anything with Mike Holmes) than on works of fiction.

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  11. Re:Canadian "culture"? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is more to it than that; we're more socialist, and less warlike. We have a smaller percentage of visible blowhards among our citizens travelling the world as tourists. We don't have isolationism or protectionism as a political philosophy. We don't (and honestly, couldn't if we wanted to) support puppet dictatorships to further our own ends.

    Of course, the USA is a big place. So is Canada. Both countries have a wide variety of cultures within them, and I'm speaking only of the 'international persona' of the two nations.

    Also, 'Eh' went out of style a long time ago. And we have milk in bags.

  12. Nationalist Culture by Verloc · · Score: 3, Informative

    All the posts I'm reading are "Canada has no culture". Seriously?

    Of course Canada has a culture; Quebec has a more unique example, but for English Canada there are a lot of cultural similarities between their culture and the United States' culture, so most of those characteristics are subsumed under the US cultural umbrella. Canada's resulting perceived culture is more fragmented, less in your face than other cultures. We could easily lose these fragments and become more 'international' (though most English speaking Canadians get information from english speaking countries, so that means the US and UK mostly). All nationalist cultures will face this in the coming years.

    The question, really, is does this constitute a problem? It's a question of identity: 'what cultural groups do you identify with?'. Nationalism has a very real hold on our identity. We need that feeling of belonging to something, and everybody is born into a nation. However, online experience has already show us that 'virtual reality' provides that feeling of belonging and the groups with which we identify and to which we belong have changed drastically. This is a fragmentation of previous groups, and of course the previously established cultural groups are going to fight back.

    Of course, the results of this fragmentation remain to be seen. Maybe it's better to belong to a group that all your neighbours belong to so that we share something in common with them, and some weak nationalism has a greater value then we currently understand. Maybe the explosion of smaller groups will allow a stronger connection within the group while a weaker without. I personally think that both are useful, and that Canadians should want to understand their culture, just as all other nations should want to understand their own culture. Having to legislate it in fear of losing it shows mistrust on one side and disinterest on the other, an ugly combination.

  13. Culture Loss or Culture Change. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Globalization for the past couple thousand years have seems to be a factor in changing cultures for quite a while.
    And there are always people who get pissed off by this natural effect.

    You get those crazy Romans who take over a culture, if they didn't kill every man, woman and child, usually caused a portion of their culture to rub off to the entire roman empire, although the conquered people usually get the biggest culture shift. However if the mighty Roman Empire could be switched to Christianity, which has been a small sect in an outskirt territory. Putting all debates about religion aside it shows how globalization effects all cultures involved.

    So now in the 21st century We have near instant globalization of ideas and products. So cultures are changing. They are not going away but they are changing and are being effected by outside sources. Americans know about the music and shows available in Japan, or in India, we can talk to people from these areas and make friends of them. Also vice-verse a lot of countries that are newer to globalization feel more threaten then others, because their culture has been isolated for so long that their culture has been the same for a long time, however forces are causing it to change. Ideas on morality, politics, and stereotypes are becoming more diverse and the culture is changing to either accept these new ideas or reject them... But these new ideas are out there to be thought about, and they are changing culture more rapidly then what everyone was used to.

    Many Americans are threatened by the ideas from Asia and the Middle East, as well these groups are threatened by Western ideas. They put to call our ideas of morality and what is right and wrong.

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  14. Favorite old joke by sootman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Canada could have had British Culture, French Cuisine, and American Technology. Instead, they settled for American Culture, British Cuisine, and French Technology.

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  15. Re:The Canadian MAFIAA by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's really funny is, the US has long since lost it's various cultures. When I was a kid, traveling meant meeting people who spoke differently, thought differently, people with different histories and cultures.

    Today? There is little variance between a fast food restaurant in New York or LA, and there is little difference in culture along any route between the two cities.

    I wouldn't be smug about any nation becoming like America, because we've lost much more than we gained in the last 50 years.

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  16. Re:Canadian Culture? What's that aboot? by Piata · · Score: 4, Informative

    Everything's derivative at best. I would argue that The Colbert Report and The Daily Show are derivative of This Hour Has 22 Minutes. I also wouldn't call shows like Kids in the Hall short lived when it aired for 6 years.

    Saying Canada has no culture and that anyone of sufficient talent ends up in the US and effectively becomes more "American" than their country of origin is a pretty nonsensical statement. The NHL is filled with primarily Canadian players but most of the teams are American. Does that make all those Canadians playing in the US more "American"? Does it make hockey more "American"?

    Canada's culture is one of individualism, tolerance and acceptance. The nation needed bilingualism to survive from it's very early stages and because it was much slower to be settled than the US, the native populations thrived much longer and had much more influence on Canada as nation. Multiculturalism is built into the foundation of the country, which can't be said of most other countries in the world (especially not the US which aimed to be a giant melting pot that assimilated other cultures into their own rather than preserve and nurture individual cultural groups).

    The British aren't known for lumberjacks, beavers, poutine or long harsh winters the last time I checked. They had no Terry Fox, Tragically Hip, RCMP or Anne of Green Gables. For such a small nation Canada has produced a wealth of artists, musicians, authors, comedians, athletes, television shows and film. If you're blind to it, then that's a shame but Canada has culture and it's a lot deeper and more complicated than you seem to realize.