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Researchers Create Glass Just 3 Atoms Thick

sciencehabit writes "Researchers have created the world's thinnest pane of glass. The glass, made of silicon and oxygen, formed accidentally when the scientists were making graphene, an atom-thick sheet of carbon, on copper-covered quartz. They believe an air leak caused the copper to react with the quartz, which is also made of silicon and oxygen, producing a glass layer with the graphene. The glass is a mere three atoms thick — the minimum thickness of silica glass—which makes it two-dimensional. The team notes that the structure 'strikingly resembles' a diagram drawn by a glass theorist attempting to unravel its structure back in 1932. Such ultra-thin glass could be used in semiconductor or graphene transistors." See Nano Letters for an abstract (and another picture) to the paywalled article.

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  1. Just wait until Apple hear about this by Hieronymus+Howard · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in related news, iPad 4 rumored to be just 2mm thick.

    1. Re:Just wait until Apple hear about this by jdastrup · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Next week, Ginsu sues Apple.

      No, it will be Apple that sues Ginsu.

      I still get a kick out of how they patented the magnetic connection for their power supplies, when my grandma's deep fryer had that exact same feature 30 years ago

  2. Two-dimensional? by Scutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The glass is a mere three atoms thick — the minimum thickness of silica glass—which makes it two-dimensional.

    It's not two dimensional if it has a measurable thickness, which you stated in that same sentence. Unless you have a different definition of "two dimensional" than the rest of us.

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    1. Re:Two-dimensional? by DSS11Q13 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps it just had a bland personality?

    2. Re:Two-dimensional? by tungstencoil · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not two dimensional if it has a measurable thickness, which you stated in that same sentence. Unless you have a different definition of "two dimensional" than the rest of us.

      Someone posted that same criticism in the article. Here is someone's reply (again, from the comments). I'm not a chemist or physicist, but what they say sounds reasonable:

      Hi Heather - fair enough, it's not 2D as in the mathematical concept, but 2D has a physical meaning as well - the thinnest version of a material. Because the silicon and oxygen atoms don't lay flat, glass needs a minimum of three layers of atoms (two silicon and one oxygen) to form a chemically stable sheet. Inside some of these technically 3D ultrathin materials, the electrons behave like their world is two dimensional.

    3. Re:Two-dimensional? by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I believe they're calling it two dimensional because it's the minimum thickness possible, so for practical purposes, the thickness is equal to a single point. You can argue semantics all you want, but if you were to "travel" on a glass sheet, you would only be able to go along the X axis or Y axis - there is no ability to travel along a Z axis that is only a single point.

    4. Re:Two-dimensional? by koolguy442 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The glass is a mere three atoms thick — the minimum thickness of silica glass—which makes it two-dimensional.

      It's not two dimensional if it has a measurable thickness, which you stated in that same sentence. Unless you have a different definition of "two dimensional" than the rest of us.

      Your question can be answered in two ways. First, in the materials science community, it's common to denote a material or chunk of material that has a very high aspect ratio, for instance very large in one or two dimensions and small in size on the order of the atomic scale in the remaining directions as effectively one- and two-dimensional. In fact, quantum dots are thought of in materials science as generally zero-dimensional, even though they most certainly have more than one atom (and even if they comprised a single atom, the electron cloud extends in three dimensions). So, as far as the materials science and electron microscopy fields are concerned, this is two-dimensional.

      Second, you tend to get your paper published in fancier journals and grab more headlines by having sensational things such as 2D (in this case) or quantum or some such buzzword in your title these days.

    5. Re:Two-dimensional? by Artifakt · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's two dimensional, in that the graph of the atomic bonds is a flat, 2 dimensional graph. That's not "a different definition ... than the rest of us", that's called context. It's the definition a chemist would normally use. If you're trying to prove your brilliance by pointing out that the whole universe has nothing physical that is infinitely thin, sorry, but we stopped giving away Nobel prizes for that. At least four people basically modded you insightful for pointing out that atoms are not infinitely small - that makes Slashdot clearly three dimensional, because we have something infinitely thick around here.

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    6. Re:Two-dimensional? by fredrated · · Score: 4, Informative

      From a post by the author at TFA:
      "Inside some of these technically 3D ultrathin materials, the electrons behave like their world is two dimensional."

    7. Re:Two-dimensional? by koolguy442 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The glass is a mere three atoms thick — the minimum thickness of silica glass—which makes it two-dimensional.

      It's not two dimensional if it has a measurable thickness, which you stated in that same sentence. Unless you have a different definition of "two dimensional" than the rest of us.

      Really? Graphene is 0.34 nm thick, and I'm quite certain that is a 2 dimensional material. In terms of graphene it's 3 dimensional after 3 layers. So the measurable thickness argument isn't valid

      Graphene is most certainly not .34 nm thick. What you are quoting is the equilibrium spacing between one graphene sheet and the next in crystalline graphite. The true "thickness" of graphene is hard to gauge, actually. If you take the standard model of quantum mechanics, the carbon atoms within graphene are point particles, and therefore have no thickness. It is reasonable, then, to measure the extent of the electron clouds from the carbon. Since the electron clouds are statistical formulations, they theoretically extend to infinity. However, because I'm a materials scientist and not some fancy physicist with a deep, quantitative understanding of electron orbital theory, I would say a good guess is to say that the radius of the electron cloud around a particular atom is about equal to half the bond length between one carbon and the next. In this case, about 0.071 nm.

      So if I were pressed to give an answer as to the thickness of a graphene sheet, not that it would generally matter in any context I'd think of, I'd call it 0.142 nm thick.

  3. I hate to break it to them... by Shoten · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...but I think an old landlord of mine managed to do this, many years ago.

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  4. Re:OH yay by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny

    More glass cellphones with easy to break screens and backs!

    Easy?!? I've pounded on these things with my finger when they don't .. do .. what .. I .. effing .. want I assume you are wearing metal gauntlets, Sir Lumpy of Oatmealshire.

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  5. Re:Also? by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz "It is made up of a continuous framework of SiO4 silicon–oxygen tetrahedra, with each oxygen being shared between two tetrahedra, giving an overall formula SiO2."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide "Silica is used primarily in the production of glass for windows, drinking glasses, beverage bottles, and many other uses."

    Glass and quartz.

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  6. Sucker. by Haxagon · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll be spending my money on the iPad5S, four atoms and a suspended quark thick! Have fun wasting your money!

    1. Re:Sucker. by kenboldt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      iPad X will be three atoms thick, with a protective coating of Higgs bosons on both sides, hand made by people in China with desktop LHCs.

      wouldn't they be SHCs?

  7. Re:Are there any practical applications? by mattr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is said the most amazing discoveries come from a scientist saying "gee that's funny..."

    By accidentally producing this very cool new material they have according to the abstract made the first electron microscopy of glass, allowed by this very thin layer being supported by but not bonded to the underlying graphite. And from the amazing picture they took, which amazingly resembles drawings made by a glass theorist 80 years ago, they were able to make calculations showing that the weak van der waals force is what's keeping this thing stable.

    It is a totally awesome thing they found and probably gives them whole new ideas about how to grow thin 2d structures. Just a week ago there was another bit of news about awesome 2d ice channels in graphite that open and close to keep helium from going through them. Sounds like there are tons of totally awesome things that are possible in these crenulated 2d realms and graphite is helping us discover them.

    Perhaps someone else here can theorize about what it all means.

  8. Re:If it's three atoms thick... by pavon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I draw a picture on a piece of paper, we call that drawing two-dimensional despite the fact that the graphite and pulp that is formed with have thickness. Likewise, if a crystal only grows along a plane (rather than in three dimensions), then that crystalline structure is two-dimensional, even though the crystal itself is a three dimensional object. This is the same thing, the sheet of glass is three-dimensional, but the structure of the amorphous solid is two-dimensional.

  9. Re:Serious question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Girl Scout cookies are made out of gorillas?