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Hacked Syrian Officials Used '12345' As Email Password

Nominei writes "The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reports that the Syrian President, aides and staffers had their email hacked by Anonymous, who leaked hundreds of emails online. Reportedly, many of the accounts used the password '12345' (which their IT department probably warned them to change when the accounts got set up, of course)."

231 comments

  1. That's amazing by Anamelech · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've got the same combination on my luggage!

    1. Re:That's amazing by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      It wouldn't surprise me if another anonymous hacker beat them to it and changed their addresses to 12345 for the lulz.

    2. Re:That's amazing by Vintowin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've got the same combination on my luggage!

      Came for this, leaving satisfied!! This thread will go to plaid soon.

    3. Re:That's amazing by cashman73 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if their President is surrounded by assholes, too?

    4. Re:That's amazing by Cryacin · · Score: 0, Troll

      Sadly it was probably the only sequence of characters that those neanderthals could remember. The sooner that they are removed from power, the better.

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    5. Re:That's amazing by kimvette · · Score: 0

      Oh, the one time I wish slashdot had a facebook-style "Like" button!!!!

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    6. Re:That's amazing by printinginchina · · Score: 1

      i think it's not save

    7. Re:That's amazing by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do you insult neanderthals?

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    8. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      In this case, the President is an asshole, too.

    9. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      In this case, the President is an asshole, too.

      Well, yes. If you draw a Venn diagram of assholes and presidents, I am fairly certain that the latter is wholly contained within the former.

    10. Re:That's amazing by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      How soon?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeZ9HhHU86o

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    11. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok I'll bite. What's the joke here?

    12. Re:That's amazing by slasho81 · · Score: 1
    13. Re:That's amazing by basecastula+ · · Score: 1, Funny

      Told my friend this story in mcdonalds. He said his dad had the same combo on his briefcase of contraband.

    14. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's pretty sad when the first comment is just a rehash of a joke already made in the summary.

      Posted by samzenpus on Thursday February 09, @10:25PM

      from the I've-got-the-same-combination-on-my-luggage dept.

    15. Re:That's amazing by joeme1 · · Score: 1

      Most of the doors to secure areas where I work have the same combination. Real secure! Every time I enter a door I think of that line. People wonder why I smile at work.

    16. Re:That's amazing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      s/hole/hat/

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    17. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care about the news. I just came for the movie.

    18. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Incorrect. I have never seen a luggage lock with more than 5 didgits
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    19. Re:That's amazing by Devout2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      He's not insulting them, he's just saying they're not well suited to lead a homo sapiens nation.

    20. Re:That's amazing by Devout2 · · Score: 1

      Me neither. And look at me: I'm wasting time on slashdot instead of working to have SHIT.

    21. Re:That's amazing by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      They made a rockband sequel to Contra?

      That's COOL!

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    22. Re:That's amazing by HnT · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Came for this, leaving satisfied!! This thread will go to plaid soon.

      "Score:5, Insightful" - really??? Did I get forwarded to reddit somehow?

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    23. Re:That's amazing by Peil · · Score: 1

      When my youngest was in hospital they had keypad door entry systems, only they were all set the same and only a single digit was worn.

      keep hitting that button till you hear the click, saves waiting 10 minutes for a nurse to appear

    24. Re:That's amazing by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 2

      s/hat/helmet

    25. Re:That's amazing by bosef1 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, I see how it works. Sure, you let them clean your clothes, serve your food, teach your children. Heck, you'll even let them represent you politically (I've lived in DC, I've seen Congress). But the minute they display the first inkling of self-respect and self-organization, it's "Neanderthals aren't 'smart' enough", "Neanderthals are another species", "Neanderthals are extinct".

      I see how it works, alright. You're afraid. Afraid to come out of your shell and admit your true feelings. It's easy enough to hate, but you're just to afraid... to love.

    26. Re:That's amazing by ais523 · · Score: 1

      The same joke was also made on the Firehose submission. So I guess it was kind-of obvious...

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    27. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Done in one.

    28. Re:That's amazing by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 1

      No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.

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    29. Re:That's amazing by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      It does. It's the various +1 moderations.

      You have to "earn" them though.

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    30. Re:That's amazing by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      it's easy enough to hate, but you're just too afraid... to love.

      The extra "o" is not that hard to add.

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    31. Re:That's amazing by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      I thought that the act of drawing a Venn diagram made you an asshole. :)

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    32. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most amazing thread ever will be an article like this, and _no_one_ replies with the luggage reply...

    33. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's also amazing is this post got to 5 when the very joke is in the subheadline: "I've-got-the-same-combination-on-my-luggage dept. "

    34. Re:That's amazing by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      Awww c'mon, that was a subtle reference to Spaceballs!

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    35. Re:That's amazing by ddocjohn · · Score: 1

      In this case, the President is an asshole, too.

      Well, yes. If you draw a Venn diagram of assholes and presidents, I am fairly certain that the latter is wholly contained within the former.

      To make it easy, if you draw an ass, it looks just like that diagram.

    36. Re:That's amazing by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      As long as the atmospheric shield code is not 12345 that should not be a problem.

    37. Re:That's amazing by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      Syrian opposition says: "Yes!"

    38. Re:That's amazing by BinarySolo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe he's just trying to properly convey that this situation is no laughing matter.

    39. Re:That's amazing by bosef1 · · Score: 1

      Terribly sorry, I'll sack the people responsible immediately. It's like working with a bunch of subhumans around here half the time anyway.

    40. Re:That's amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, with a name like "Assad", what do you expect?

  2. 12345 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    1, 2, 3, 4, 5? That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!

    1. Re:12345 by flyingsquid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If a bunch of kids could hack into Syran government email by typing "12345", you'd imagine that at least one of the big cyberwarfare or intelligence units out there- the U.S., Israel, or China- would have thought of the same trick and has already been monitoring their communications for a while. At least you'd hope so. I'd hate to think that right now there are of a couple of NSA agents looking at each other and saying, "12345... hey, why didn't we think of that?"

    2. Re:12345 by ceoyoyo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or a couple of NSA agents looking at each other and saying "shit, I've got to go change my password."

    3. Re:12345 by retech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Perhaps they did. Do you seriously think that: 1. they'd let /. know and that B. they'd tell Syria when they have a free pass?

    4. Re:12345 by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or a couple of NSA agents looking at each other and saying "shit, now we can't read their email"

    5. Re:12345 by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The thing about, say, the CIA or Mosad, they would hack, but not reveal they had and just keep reading the emails as they came in.

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    6. Re:12345 by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 1

      Man I wish I hadn't already frivolously burnt the mod points I had earlier today. That one made me laugh out loud.

    7. Re:12345 by rahvin112 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Governments will go to extreme lengths to avoid revealing when they have access to information that the "enemy" thinks is secure. The allies went to very extreme measures to avoid tipping the Germans off that they had access to all the communications that went out on the Enigma machine. This included letting their own troops be ambushed and killed and massive use of resources and manpower to cover up when they did use the information, such as flying a hundred aerial survey missions to cover up knowing the travel path of a sea convoy.

    8. Re:12345 by ArundelCastle · · Score: 5, Funny

      The Papal and Italian agencies turn to their roots for cipher strength: IIIIIIIVV

    9. Re:12345 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...well maybe next week."

    10. Re:12345 by donscarletti · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They claim they have never allowed an ambush to cover up codebreaking in WWII, just the difficulty in diffusing this information in a covert way meant it did not always get to who needed it in time. From this, it can slowly snowball in retelling to generals and spies sending men into ambushes to cover their efforts, which is stragegically retarded since it is not realistic for the enemy to notice something is amiss just because they don't get lucky in ambushes. However I think people just like the weight of the supposed situation: *movie trailer voice* "the ultimate sacrifice, to protect the ultimate secret".

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    11. Re:12345 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. And if they did decide that it would be helpful for their objectives to reveal the e-mails, they wouldn't do it openly, because that would create a diplomatic clusterfuck. They'd probably use the cover ID of an anonymous hacker collective that anyone can freely claim to represent.

    12. Re:12345 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or a couple of NSA agents glad they know the sekrit windows backdoor and snickering between themselves.

  3. Mine is 54321 by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 1

    No zero, sorry

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    1. Re:Mine is 54321 by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fool! passwords need to be 8 digits at least. Mine is 1234567891011 It goes to 11, for extra security.

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    2. Re:Mine is 54321 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that letters are more secure than digits.
      Therefore I use: one two three four five

    3. Re:Mine is 54321 by Hentes · · Score: 1

      It doesn't just use a few digits but is completely comprised of digits, making it unbreakable.

    4. Re:Mine is 54321 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use 'password1', because almost any website i go to asks for letters with at least a number.

    5. Re:Mine is 54321 by Thud457 · · Score: 2

      oh yeah, I can top that!
      0n3 7w0 7hr33 f0ur fiv3

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  4. Only 12345? by froggymana · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought that everyone knew to use at least 123456 as their password. After all that increases its security by an order of magnitude!

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    1. Re:Only 12345? by iggymanz · · Score: 1, Redundant

      oh no, eight is the minimum recommended length. 12345678 is the shortest secure password you should be using. or qwertyui. wait, please don't use that second one, it's my paypal password

    2. Re:Only 12345? by blau · · Score: 1

      Hey, some of them did ---> Password list on Pastebin

  5. IT did warn them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    then the IT guy got taken into the alley and shot in the head for his impudence.

    1. Re:IT did warn them by HSonger · · Score: 5, Funny

      The IT group probably forgot to install the Unicode language pack on their machines so the only Arabic they could put in were numerals.

    2. Re:IT did warn them by mjwx · · Score: 5, Funny

      The IT guy was then shot again, for his incompetence.

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    3. Re:IT did warn them by sycodon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Should be scored as +1, in all likelihood, true.

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    4. Re:IT did warn them by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know if Assad's quite that malevolent. I sure wouldn't have wanted to have been Uday Hussein's IT manager, that's for sure.

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    5. Re:IT did warn them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actualy nobody shot IT guy. He shot himself in the head for thouse exact reasons. Twice.

    6. Re:IT did warn them by Bucc5062 · · Score: 3, Informative

      "I don't know if Assad's quite that malevolent. "

      You watching the news at all these days? The man is ordering troops to kill anyone, collateral damage is not an issue. I'm just not certain who is worse, the leader of Syria or the leaders of Russia and China for backing that pile of shit.

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    7. Re:IT did warn them by jackbird · · Score: 2

      I've heard this meme from my batshit right-wing zionist relatives, but I've never determined where it's coming from.

      It seems to rest on some kind of question-begging with regard to US/Israeli foreign policy justifications, but it's so ludicrously extreme I can't see otherwise-intelligent people swallowing it without some evidence.

      So what's the evidence at the root of this meme? Who in a position of any political power in America, from the municipal level on up, has any desire to advance the cause of the Muslim Brotherhood? What's in it for them? How about the media? What does the NY Times benefit from helping the Muslim Brotherhood?

      It just makes no kind of sense to me.

    8. Re:IT did warn them by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      The leaders of Russia and China want to retain such abusive powers for themselves, which is why they veto'd the UN resolution condemning Assad for doing it. Case in point: Tiananmen Square (and please don't google that from inside China).

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    9. Re:IT did warn them by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      That might explain China, to a point, though they did abstain during the Libya vote, which demonstrates that they are not entirely against regime change (and let's not pretend that Beijing did not know exactly what the air campaign against Ghaddafi actually was meant to accomplish). My thinking is more along the lines that both China and Russia (particularly Russia) view Assad as a good customer, and just as importantly the current regime as one that leans more in their direction than the West's. Ghaddafi, on the other hand, was pretty much loathed by everyone everywhere, and thus, when push came to shove, had no friends at all in high places.

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    10. Re:IT did warn them by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Yes, of course. If you watch a Russian station, I'm sure all those people in Homs, every lost one, are evil terrorist rebels.

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    11. Re:IT did warn them by Zeroedout · · Score: 1

      You probably believe that. So here is a very recent counter-example form Al Jazeera: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/02/201221084241265250.html
      If you tell me AJE is American, I will have to beat you.

    12. Re:IT did warn them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Case in point: Tiananmen Square (and please don't google that from inside China).

      Both Russia and the USA also shot their own citizens (Russia sometime in the beginning of the last century, if I'm not mistaken; the US in 1970). Singling out China for this is not fair to the competing evildoers. That said, their position comes from political/economical interests, and the same goes for those who want to bomb Syria (which would be a better target than Lybia, which is now under the rule of crazy fundamentalists, while Gaddafi, although by no means perfect, was much more moderate).

  6. Incredibly stupid by brickmack · · Score: 2

    Seriously? People that use such easy to guess (and therefore pointless) shouldn't even have access to anything that needs protection...

    1. Re:Incredibly stupid by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, it was their own e-mail....

      Speaking of which, people who don't put objects in their sentences shouldn't even have written them. ;)

    2. Re:Incredibly stupid by MyHair · · Score: 2

      Seriously? People that use such easy to guess (and therefore pointless) shouldn't even have access to anything that needs protection...

      Pfffft. You ever worked for a Director/VP or higher? Try telling them how to set their passwords. I've seen "boss", "super" and other motivational-poster-worthy simple words. And they want everything to auto-login. One of the last major worm outbreaks I encountered originated in the senior executive offices.

      Okay, that was a few years ago. Maybe that company has learned a few things since then.

    3. Re:Incredibly stupid by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      They're politicians and bureaucrats. How much fucking brains do you think they have? I'm willing to bet that password strained their limited intelligence. Rocket scientists they're not.

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    4. Re:Incredibly stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely. Those types of people usually figure they can get away with it by firing anyone who hacks their system or calls them on the problem. Nothing changes until someone external to the company does the same thing and capitalizes on it with such nasty consequences that the guilty exec is fired or the company goes under.

    5. Re:Incredibly stupid by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I agree with com.mystuff.wordlist.nouns.pronouns.demonstrative.that!

  7. You know... by koan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every time I go to pastebin.com and look at the hacked sites the passwords are always weak, extremely weak, virtually no one uses strong passwords.

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    1. Re:You know... by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Every time I go to pastebin.com and look at the hacked sites the passwords are always weak, extremely weak

      No surprise there.

      , virtually no one uses strong passwords.

      Non sequitur. The published passwords are weak because that's the passwords that were easily cracked. Those who have strong passwords are underrepresented on the lists precisely because they have stronger passwords so they weren't brute-forced easily.

      IT departments and well-meaning distro packagers have to take some of the blame too. I can't choose a password like Zph9vZZZ3tPseX4 because it has Z repeated 3 times, and contains a word found in a dictionary?
      Fuck that then, I'll go with abcd1234 instead. Oh, and I have to change it every four weeks? Next time it will be 1234abcd, then abcd12345 and 12345abcd - catch my drift?

    2. Re:You know... by Dwonis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every time I go to pastebin.com and look at the hacked sites the passwords are always weak, extremely weak

      No surprise there.

      , virtually no one uses strong passwords.

      Non sequitur. The published passwords are weak because that's the passwords that were easily cracked. Those who have strong passwords are underrepresented on the lists precisely because they have stronger passwords so they weren't brute-forced easily.

      Sure, but every now and then, some *site* uses a poor hash, which allows people like me to do research on password strength and frequency. These results don't exhibit the selection bias you're talking about, because they're a full dump of passwords on the site. This is just for one specific site, but I found that 36% of all passwords were easily discoverable using a rainbow table, 33% of passwords weren't unique, and 1 in 72 users had the password "super123" for some reason.

      I actually had a list of email addresses and their corresponding passwords for the site. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these passwords could also be used to get access to their corresponding GMail/Yahoo/Hotmail accounts (but I didn't test it out, because I enjoy not being in jail).

    3. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yep never use the same user name or password for different sites, at the minimum.

    4. Re:You know... by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Interesting

      yep never use the same user name or password for different sites you care about, at the minimum.

      FTFY. I mean, really, nobody has the mental capacity to remember a unique, strong password for every titchy site they have an account on.

      Me, I have a strong, unique password for the handful of things that deserve it (My workstation, email, banking, facebook) and then a common password that I use among all the other sites, that I really don't care about being compromised.

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    5. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adding super123 to my dictionary.

    6. Re:You know... by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

      I think you mean: Virtually no one who uses strong passwords ends up with their password posted on pastebin.com for you to see. :P

    7. Re:You know... by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sure, but every now and then, some *site* uses a poor hash, which allows people like me to do research on password strength and frequency. These results don't exhibit the selection bias you're talking about, because they're a full dump of passwords on the site. This is just for one specific site, but I found that 36% of all passwords were easily discoverable using a rainbow table, 33% of passwords weren't unique, and 1 in 72 users had the password "super123" for some reason.

      The link you provide supports that this is selection bias - he cracked 26025 out of 93688 passwords, and then made the brilliant deduction that boils down to "of those passwords that I easily cracked, most were found to be easily cracked". No shit, Sherlock.

      Sure, that 36% of passwords are easily cracked is bad in itself, but that's another thing entirely. It can't be used as statistics to extrapolate anything using the word "most". It only applies to that subset of weak password.

      I also have to arrest you for " I found that 36% of all passwords were easily discoverable using a rainbow table". This is incorrect. 100% of all passwords are easily discoverable using a rainbow table. 36% may be easily discoverable using a partial rainbow table, which is not the same thing.

    8. Re:You know... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that MOST passwords were pretty decent (not discoverable using a rainbow table) then? That's a little different from the OP's assertion that "virtually no one uses strong passwords."

    9. Re:You know... by am+2k · · Score: 1

      I mean, really, nobody has the mental capacity to remember a unique, strong password for every titchy site they have an account on.

      Yes, I'm using a password manager for the rest (1password). It can also generate super-secure randomly generated passwords.

    10. Re:You know... by admiralranga · · Score: 1

      Saw this on a site a while ago. You first chose a base password, then to generate a unique password for every site the base password was hashed with the site name. Hence you got a suitably complex password for every site but without having to remember them all.

    11. Re:You know... by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Where routine password changes are strictly enforced, the system would notice that there were too many characters similar between your old and newly chosen password and would not allow it.

    12. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i use easy to guess passwords all the time... for random sites that I will use once or sites where it matters 0 if I get "hacked". AKA forums.

      many of these easy passwords are almost certainly situations like mine.

    13. Re:You know... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 2

      I use that method, and a password safe (keepass) to store the generated passwords. "hbar=1.05E-34" is a good terrible password. Easy to remember, useful to remember (never know when you'll need the reduced Plank's constant...) and fits most site password rules: over 12 characters, less than 16, includes upper-case, lower-case, numbers, and punctuation. It's "strong" to most password meters, despite being a rather weak password to a dictionary attack against physicists.

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    14. Re:You know... by allo · · Score: 1

      use a passphrase.

      "i read slashdot even at work: hahahaha" is pretty secure, you would not have guessed it, no chance to brute-force it. But i can easily remember it.

    15. Re:You know... by martas · · Score: 1

      And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the Holy Mother of sampling biases (and a 5-digit-uid /. reader who fell for it... for shame).

    16. Re:You know... by St.Creed · · Score: 1

      I use keepass for that the same way. However, after I got a smartphone I needed to retype all of those passwords. Yeah that's nice, to manually enter the 30 character random bytestring... I've since fallen back to a bit simpler scheme. The XKCD scheme works rather well.

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    17. Re:You know... by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Super powered unique passwords for my email computers I have access to and financial sites.
      Nicely secure non unique password for sites I really trust.
      Different secure non unique password for trash sites.
      Works for me.

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    18. Re:You know... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I tried telling IT and any manager that would listen, but for naught.

      Fun fact for someone like me who has access to a LOT of systems, applications, databases, multiple desktops, PLUS all the usually corporate fluff of expense systems, payroll/attendance systems...

      Now replicate those "strong" password protocols on all of them. Also they all have to be different.

      Yeah, your going to get good passwords that way. Hell the people who only have access to a handful of systems postit note passwords on their monitors.

      Also now that IT support is likely getting about a BAZILLION tech support calls a day for "Hey I for got my password for X system..." they likely give it out like candy, which really means rather than even trying to break a weak password using a postit note that is right there staring you in the face, just call up tech support, and ask for a password and they will give it to you.

    19. Re:You know... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I tried telling IT and any manager that would listen, but for naught.

      Fun fact for someone like me who has access to a LOT of systems, applications, databases, multiple desktops, PLUS all the usually corporate fluff of expense systems, payroll/attendance systems...

      Now replicate those "strong" password protocols on all of them. Also they all have to be different.

      Yeah, your going to get good passwords that way. Hell the people who only have access to a handful of systems postit note passwords on their monitors.

      Also now that IT support is likely getting about a BAZILLION tech support calls a day for "Hey I for got my password for X system..." they likely give it out like candy, which really means rather than even trying to break a weak password using a postit note that is right there staring you in the face, just call up tech support, and ask for a password and they will give it to you.

      I work for a 350,000 person company, and you just exactly described their policy. Read it and weep. But you already suspected as much.

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      the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    20. Re:You know... by Erikderzweite · · Score: 1

      What about DroidPass? I've just set up it on my phone and sync the database file via dropbox.

    21. Re:You know... by Dwonis · · Score: 1

      The link you provide supports that this is selection bias - he cracked 26025 out of 93688 passwords, and then made the brilliant deduction that boils down to "of those passwords that I easily cracked, most were found to be easily cracked". No shit, Sherlock.

      I didn't say that the link disproves that the selection bias exists---it simply doesn't exhibit that selection bias, because it represents a sample of all passwords used on a site. The top 30 passwords were not "the top 30 that were cracked"; they were the top 30 passwords used on the site at all. I could determine this because they were stored as unsalted MD5 hashes.

      Sure, that 36% of passwords are easily cracked is bad in itself, but that's another thing entirely. It can't be used as statistics to extrapolate anything using the word "most". It only applies to that subset of weak password.

      Yes, I don't dispute that.

      I also have to arrest you for " I found that 36% of all passwords were easily discoverable using a rainbow table". This is incorrect. 100% of all passwords are easily discoverable using a rainbow table. 36% may be easily discoverable using a partial rainbow table, which is not the same thing.

      What is the difference between a rainbow table and a "partial rainbow table", in your view? Do you think a "rainbow table" means a table containing all possible passwords? Considering that many hash functions have an infinite number of possible inputs, there's no such thing as a rainbow table, according to that definition. It also seems to contradict the usage by Philippe Oechslin in the paper which introduced the term.

    22. Re:You know... by ajlisows · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we were told by our parent company that we needed to change passwords every 6 months. I recall one person in particular...his password was "dOOr_IntO_tHe_NighT" which is about as hack proof of a password as I've seen an average user choose for himself. Five password changes later I asked him what his password is. It is now simply "apple".

    23. Re:You know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is the difference between a rainbow table and a "partial rainbow table", in your view?

      Rainbow tables use a reduction function to map the output of one call to the hashing function to the input of the next call to the hashing function. If the reduction function only maps the output to e.g. lowercase letters, a password like 12345 wouldn't be in any of the chains in the rainbow table and it would make sense to call it "a partial rainbow table".

      Considering that many hash functions have an infinite number of possible inputs, there's no such thing as a rainbow table, according to that definition.

      While it's true that there's an infinite number of possible inputs, the output of e.g. md5() is only 128 bits. If two or more different plain texts result in the same cipher text, it doesn't matter if I use the "right" one when cracking your account. It just have to have the same hash as your password. In other words, a complete rainbow table for md5() "only" need to have each of the 2^128 different hashes somewhere in the chains. I might not get your password when I use that rainbow table, but I'll get one that's just as good for all intents and purposes.

  8. What does it mean? by SluttyButt · · Score: 0

    There are more important things to think about than this irritant.

  9. passwd -e by Anamelech · · Score: 1

    Really, Why weren't these accounts configured to expire on the first login, like most default passwords? If they were, why didn't they have some sort of policy in place in the system to stop people from using incrementing/decrementing numbers?

    1. Re:passwd -e by kenh · · Score: 0

      Really - maybe 'el presidente' is a dolt, msybe their IT guys are dolts, and maybe, just maybe, they didn't even really think about it.

      I suspect they chose trivial passwords when the default auto-expired on first login...

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      Ken
    2. Re:passwd -e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really, Why weren't these accounts configured to expire on the first login, like most default passwords?

      They are not configured to expire on the first login because most users never truly log in - they tend to access the services through point-and-drool applications that have no facilities for changing the password.
      And even when they do log in, it's likely with dumbed down Windows terminal progs which for unfathomable reasons close the window immediately on disconnect, so the user won't have a chance to read why he was logged out and what to do about it.

      So some admins take the easy way out and don't expire the passwords, while others spend time hand-holding the users individually, and yet others pre-generate strongish passwords for the users, but have to communicate them through untrusted media.

      For what it's worth, I provided a web based password change service for our technical users so they could change their passwords even if they never logged in to the servers. Within a year, and several reminders later, one out of over 300 users had used it.

      tl;dr: You're seldom allowed to break the users' kneecaps when they fail to follow instructions.

    3. Re:passwd -e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where was this at?

    4. Re:passwd -e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its al-Presidente

      El Presidenet I is Spanish (Spain used to be run by the Moors which is why Spanish has some similaries to Arabic

    5. Re:passwd -e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, Why weren't these accounts configured to expire on the first login, like most default passwords?

      Because they outsourced it to India.

    6. Re:passwd -e by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Within a year, and several reminders later, one out of over 300 users had used it.

      Is that including your own tests while setting up the service?

  10. FUD, unless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...Anonymous posted this themselves.

    Israelis use FUD frequently--no anti-semitism here. Anonymous is THE perfect scapegoat for false-flags, and (observation here) after this point, is poking a sleeping beast that has an anti-semetic bent already.

    Lemme go check the *chan(s)....

  11. Palin Popcorn Password by kenh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this really 'hacking' when you guess the password?

    Reminds me of the script-kiddie who 'hacked' into Sarah Palin's email account once he successfully guessed her password was 'popcorn'...

    Wonder how he's doing in prison?

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    1. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Is this really 'hacking' when you guess the password?

      It is hacking if you manually enter a URL, so yes, guessing a password is hacking too. Basically, if people are not creative enough to think of how their security system might be defeated, then anyone who defeats it is a hacker (and deserves a jail sentence).

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    2. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Dwedit · · Score: 4, Informative

      That never happened.

      Someone guessed Sarah Palin's security questions (such as "Where did you first meet your spouse" with the answer of her high school in Alaska), and got into the account. Then the password was changed to popcorn.

    3. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      iirc he got away with minimal punishment because he had that dad was a senetor

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    4. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by artor3 · · Score: 1

      No, he served nearly a year in prison. It was that punk kid who falsified evidence to shut down ACORN and who tried to wiretap a senator's office who got off with minimal punishment.

    5. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by rahvin112 · · Score: 1, Informative

      Not minimal, none. He got like 80 hours of community service. No fine and no jail time. The guy should be in jail for fraud and slander/libel at a minimum and for trying to tap a member of congresses phone he should be in jail for espionage. Anyone that thinks that jackass is a hero needs their head examined.

    6. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      if he really was a kid when doing it, what do you expect? convicting him as an adult?

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    7. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this really 'hacking' when you guess the password?

      Reminds me of the script-kiddie who 'hacked' into Sarah Palin's email account once he successfully guessed her password was 'popcorn'...

      Wonder how he's doing in prison?

      "Popcorn?" That took some digging. If I was trying to guess Palin's password I would have started with "airhead," "barbie," "bridge," "caribou," "censor," or some other word that's easy for her to remember because she hears it all the time. It would have taken forever to get to the P section of the dictionary.

    8. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by repapetilto · · Score: 1

      Reversing mods to say this...

      Have you ever raked leaves for 80 hours?

    9. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by artor3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He was 25, so yes, I do think he should be tried as an adult. He should be in prison, but he's not because Fox (and by extension their mindless viewers) adore him for his destruction of an organization that had the gall to try to help poor people.

    10. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by orphiuchus · · Score: 1

      *And to destroy our economy by getting said poor people mortgages they couldn't afford.

    11. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by mjeffers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You've confused your right wing memes.

      ACORN, the group shut down after the faked videos, is the group that was going to destroy the country by letting poor people vote.

      The keywords you want for "destroy our economy by getting poor people mortgages" are either Barney Frank or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.

      Just pointing this out to help but if you want to keep your right wing memes straight, watch more Fox news.

    12. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Mithent · · Score: 1

      I agree. "Hacking", to me, implies something that's at least reasonably technically demanding. This reminds me of the "phone hacking" scandal in the UK, which was actually the "unauthorised access of voicemail because no-one had changed the default PIN" scandal - but that wasn't nearly as catchy. It seems that "hacking" now encompasses any form of unauthorised access, no matter how secure the system was or whether it was defeated by technological means or social engineering.

    13. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      his destruction of an organization that had the gall to try to help poor people.

      By registering them to vote without telling them and then sending someone to vote for them, because after all, they knew how they really wanted to vote.
      OK, that statement is hyperbole, but ACORN commttied systematic voter fraud in the entire country. And ACORN has not been destroyed, it has just changed its name and is happily continueing to collect taxpayer dollars (despite a law forbidding that) through "unaffiliated" affiliates and other shady techniques. Do a thorough study of ACORN's corporate structure and you quickly discover that it consists of a large number of interlocking shell corporations (non-profits) that theoretically are all independent, but have overlapping boards, employees and bank accounts..

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    14. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by franca · · Score: 1

      You've confused your right wing memes.

      ACORN, the group shut down after the faked videos, is the group that was going to destroy the country by letting poor people vote.

      The keywords you want for "destroy our economy by getting poor people mortgages" are either Barney Frank or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.

      Just pointing this out to help but if you want to keep your right wing memes straight, watch more Fox news.

      +1000 to you you for standing up for what's nothing less but the truth.

    15. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Negative.

      It is critical that right wing memes be cross-pollinated widely and frequently.

      Only when the public is in a constant state of uncertainty and fear can they be cowed into supporting ideals contrary to their own enlightened self interest.

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    16. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      Fuck ACORN.
      Really. If you are liberal and have that belief system, More power to you.
      You have the right to think differently than I do.
      But ACORN. You do yourself and those of a similar belief system to yours damage by protecting ACORN.
      Not saying that they were taken down 100% correctly. Hell they are not even really down. Just a name change really.
      But they are shit and should not be receiving any public funds.

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    17. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      To be fair though they were actually involved in helping rich pimps and their whores to get housing assistance.

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    18. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Just because ACORN is not right-wing doesn't mean its farts don't stink.

    19. Re:Palin Popcorn Password by RatherBeAnonymous · · Score: 1

      I have a friend, an attorney, who worked for ACORN for a short time about 7or 8 years ago. His job was to call people and double check their voter registrations. ACORN would hire people and pay them piecemeal for every complete voter registration. Many of the people hired would fill out registration cards on people's behalf without talking to them, or else fill in bogus data, because it meant more cash in their pockets. My friend quit after a few months when his paychecks started bouncing.

  12. Worst... Dictator.... Ever! by GiganticLyingMouth · · Score: 1

    Jesus, as if killing your own people isn't bad enough, you also use one of the worst passwords of all time for (multiple) government passwords. Maybe he wasn't so far off in his Barbara Walters interview; "No government in the world kills its people, unless it’s led by a crazy person” - Assad

    1. Re:Worst... Dictator.... Ever! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

      To be fair, the current Administration (NDAA) agrees with ASSad, just as long as you label them "terrorist" first ;)

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  13. Is it even hacking anymore? by corychristison · · Score: 1

    When people use such stupid passwords, is it really even considered hacking anymore?

    Conversely, does calling this hacking diminish the skills of those who actually know their security inside and out?

    1. Re:Is it even hacking anymore? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 1

      Here is the mainstream definition of hacking:

      If nobody thought of a way that a security system could be defeated, then anyone who defeats that system is a hacker and has engaged in hacking.

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  14. Re:Brace yourserlves... by corychristison · · Score: 1

    I count three prior to your post.

    You either need to type faster or reload the page before deciding to comment.

  15. While we're "warning" users... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which their IT department probably warned them to change when the accounts got set up, of course

    Somebody should have warned IT to have a stronger password policy in place to begin with. 12345, really?? It's fun to bag on users for using something stupid like that, but IT is responsible for the integrity of the system, and allowing passwords like that is nothing less than complete incompetence on their part.

    1. Re:While we're "warning" users... by skids · · Score: 1

      Something tells me "hi this is IT, we just finished creating your account. We set the password to 63SHhe737EHS#&7sh#77s73773. You should change it." might actually result in people changing their passwords. Of course the only security it would improve is job security, since they would put in stupid passwords, but at least they are completely culpable at that point.

  16. Arabic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Guessing blind, they probably used numbers for those passwords because the official language is Arabic and a sequence of Roman characters would be hard to memorize.

  17. Stuff that matters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reportedly, many of the accounts used the password '12345'

    Who gives a flying fuck? There are stupid people everywhere.

  18. Now I'll have to change my dadblasted passwords! by edibobb · · Score: 2

    The Syrians stole my password for everything! Now I'll have to come up with a new one.

  19. Assads email wasn't hacked by highwaytohell · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was just the dept staff. Looked like it was hacked through the webmail portal of mopa.gov.sy. The only thing of note was the exchange re the Barbara Walters visit. The Ministry of Presidential Affairs is basically his marketing department. Whilst one would hope they busted into this despots email, the truth is they did no such thing.

    1. Re:Assads email wasn't hacked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was just the dept staff. Looked like it was hacked through the webmail portal of mopa.gov.sy.

      The only thing of note was the exchange re the Barbara Walters visit. The Ministry of Presidential Affairs is basically his marketing department.

      Whilst one would hope they busted into this despots email, the truth is they did no such thing.

      Unfortunately, from the article it appears you are correct. And that would be unlikely, since the closer you get to the center, the less likely you are to see e-mail at all.

  20. BAD PASSWORD: it is too simplistic/systematic by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, 12345 is actually a very complex password for Bashar al-Assad.

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  21. Leet Hackers by jjp9999 · · Score: 1

    I'm curious to know how many hacker just go around typing 12345 and 1qaz into every account out there just to see what they can get.

  22. Syrians? by spidercoz · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh shit. There goes the planet.

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  23. And here is the pastebin of the dump. by highwaytohell · · Score: 1

    Just in case no one bothered to go find it. http://pastebin.com/uaYDfCz0

  24. Don't shoot the messenger by Beeftopia · · Score: 1

    ... when he comes up from the IT department and tells you that your password is weak and you need to change it. However, in Assad's Syria, user change* you!

    * And by "change" I mean "shoot."

  25. Agree by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    I agree and since the people they are supposed to be governing clearly need protection....

  26. The headline gave me a headache by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1

    I had thoroughly convinced myself that the days of people using passwords this stupid was behind us, left to rot in the dark ages of the internet. $faithInHumanity--

  27. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

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  28. Re:Spaceballs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really. I'm the first person to post this?

    You mean besides the first post 45 minutes before your post? No.

  29. shabablaba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Allah will protect my account. Oh wait...

  30. Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

    ...apparently the launch keys for each and every silo-based ICBM were/are all "0000000000" (ten zeroes). Scary.

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    1. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Johann+Lau · · Score: 1

      Okay, now that the hardest part is solved - where to punch them in?

    2. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      I doubt they'd be connected via public WAN... or could the US Government possibly be that stupid??

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    3. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by dbIII · · Score: 1

      It was true.
      Since the requirement for a password was forced on the military from the outside and they wanted the last man standing to be able to launch without being locked out they set the password to all zeros as a workaround for what they considered to be a stupid and dangerous restriction. I can see their point.

    4. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Megane · · Score: 1

      I thought it was "CPE1704TKS".

      ...or was it Zero Zero Zero Destruct Zero?

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    5. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by hpa · · Score: 1

      This, of course, was a very dangerous case of insubordination on the part of the military, since the exact reason it was imposed on them was that the political leadership considered the risk of an unauthorized launch to be greater than the "last man standing" scenario, and, guess what, in the United States the political leadership is supposed to be supreme to the military.

    6. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...apparently the launch keys for each and every silo-based ICBM were/are all "0000000000" (ten zeroes). Scary.

      PAL.

      As others have pointed out - knowing the code and being able to (ab)use it are two entirely different things. The only people in a position to abuse the knowledge were people who were trustworthy enough not to abuse it. The rumor has it that it was set to zeroes because - in the terribly-unlikely (as in simultaneously terrible and unlikely) event that that the damn things ever had to be used - the crews wanted to make double-damn sure that they worked as intended.

    7. Re:Old rumour regarding US nuke launch codes... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      love the WG/Trek references...

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  31. At least it wasn't a common password by scourfish · · Score: 1
    As we all know, the most commonly used passwords are: love, sex, secret, and... god.

    Apparently nobody bothered to read the IT guy's meticulously prepared memo.

    1. Re:At least it wasn't a common password by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah so then I guess even using this technique
      http://xkcd.com/936/
      secret_love_sex_god probably still isn't the most secure password...

  32. Would YOU tell him he must change his password? by Flavius+Iulianus · · Score: 1

    Dudes, He's a DICTATOR. If he doesn't want to change his password, what do you think will happen if you tell him "Mr. Assad, you can't log on until you change your password." a) He says "Oh, yes, thank you for helping me to remember how to protect the information of the Syria Arab Republic. You're a hero of the Republic. Here's your million dollars." b) He says "Screw you, who's the President here, you or me?" And then you find yourself as a street cleaner in Homs wearing safety orange.

    1. Re:Would YOU tell him he must change his password? by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      more likely C) shot in the head for questioning his judgement

    2. Re:Would YOU tell him he must change his password? by cpghost · · Score: 1

      Even if he's a dictator, he ain't that stupid. Just remember that he is a western-trained ophtalmologist by profession, before he got reluctantly sucked into his current position. If I were in the position of some IT staff there, I would have politely informed him that his password isn't secure and needs to be changed, and I'm sure he would have appreciated that... and would have replaced it with 54321.

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  33. Hacker walk of shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    As the hacker saw much to his horror that the Syrian President's e-mail password was indeed 12345 he tried to break the connection but it was too late. Word had spread and all knew that his most important hack was one that a five year old could have bested. A week later the hacker was found with a gun in his mouth and the numbers "12345" scrawled across his walls. His last e-mail was a simple "Who uses 12345 as a password!" Other hackers said that it was a tragedy that he would be remembered for one lame hack. Word came later that day that the Syrian President had beefed up security by using his son's name as his current password. Hackers world wide turned away in disgust and refused to stoop to hacking some one that lacked even basic internet skills.

    Some turned their attention to hacking President Obama's e-mail until it was found he used the password "Romneysucksballs". No hacker would dignify such a password with a hack. Later that day it was revealed that Bill Gates used "stevejobsisaweiner" as his password but most knew this was the case since the late 90s.

    1. Re:Hacker walk of shame by franca · · Score: 1

      As the hacker saw much to his horror that the Syrian President's e-mail password was indeed 12345 he tried to break the connection but it was too late. Word had spread and all knew that his most important hack was one that a five year old could have bested. A week later the hacker was found with a gun in his mouth and the numbers "12345" scrawled across his walls. His last e-mail was a simple "Who uses 12345 as a password!" Other hackers said that it was a tragedy that he would be remembered for one lame hack. Word came later that day that the Syrian President had beefed up security by using his son's name as his current password. Hackers world wide turned away in disgust and refused to stoop to hacking some one that lacked even basic internet skills.

      Some turned their attention to hacking President Obama's e-mail until it was found he used the password "Romneysucksballs". No hacker would dignify such a password with a hack. Later that day it was revealed that Bill Gates used "stevejobsisaweiner" as his password but most knew this was the case since the late 90s.

      xDDDD you just made my day with your comment ... hilarious !

  34. Re:IT is to blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I find users change their passwords when I give them difficult passwords :).

  35. Advice-ignoring narcissists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sort of thing is what makes dictators fall (until they die first). They all really are extreme narcissists who don't tolerate dissent at all, therefore ignore good advice, and eventually destroy themselves by their own mistakes. (Unfortunately for the rest of us, this usually does not happen until their country is destroyed as well).

  36. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1, Troll

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  37. You, sir, by gwolf · · Score: 1

    are now the primary suspect of breaking into Syria's government networks. You obviously have access to privileged information. Prepare to be arrested...

    ...On your next visit to Damascus, that is.

  38. That's what you get by shentino · · Score: 0

    When you hire your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate to be your system administrator.

  39. Strong simple passwords explained by dbIII · · Score: 1

    http://xkcd.com/936/
    I know it's preaching to the converted with the above two posters, but it's worth looking at.
    The passwords I give users from permutations of a word list make them laugh but they can remember them.

  40. Re:IT is to blame by jouassou · · Score: 1

    The "default password" should be 30 characters of mumbo-jumbo, so that it's secure by default, but changing it actually makes life easier.

  41. Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail... by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The password doesn't matter if your account is at a place where everything is already readable by the Man.

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  42. Echelon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhhhm. The Five Eyes (AU NZ UK US CA) have been routinely intercepting (nearly) all online communications for decades. Do you not know this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_(signals_intelligence)

    They also maintain banks of supercomputers to routinely crack whatever crypto they don't already have a backdoor into. They don't need to know any passwords. Get this into your head: all messages sent online are monitored and permanently recorded. Also all (non-local) phone calls are monitored and transcribed. If you want to have a private communication with someone, then use your own extra layer of encryption on it.

  43. I'm shocked by Chrisq · · Score: 0

    You mean he could count .

    1. Re:I'm shocked by AlecC · · Score: 1

      Bashar Assad is a trained ophthalmologist. So he can count as far as glasses strengths go.

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    2. Re:I'm shocked by Megane · · Score: 1

      Bashar Assad is a trained ophthalmologist.

      So why wasn't his password EFPTOZ?

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  44. That depend on the system by aepervius · · Score: 1

    On most web site including some email account i use as a throw away, my password is something like julie. very weak, because I don't care. But on some stuff like online banking my password is more like Sushi-tAbLe#722915;DeadPan (not the real password, but same similar structure). I have to wonder from those study you are speaking of, if they took into account how much importance the user gave to the service/data protected behind the password.

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    1. Re:That depend on the system by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      What would make you want to use a password like "Sushi-tAbLe#722915;DeadPan"?
      Why not just use something easier and just as secure like "Apple-green-9-fort"?
      Follows most site rules easy to remember and nearly impossible to brute force.

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  45. Who would dare to look at al-Assad's email? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't rely my hacker knowledge if I was in reach of his police. By the way, it's the same way the US protects its currency - just compare the security features of the euro with those of the US dollar (which got slightly better in the last decade). Counterfeiting is prevented in the US mostly by the FBI. No wonder, Hollywood invests more in lawyers and politicians than in better cryptologists to protect their digital goods...

  46. No (was Re:Is it even hacking anymore?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No.

    It's cracking. They cracked passwords. Like safe crackers crack safes.

  47. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by AssholeMcGee+ · · Score: 1

    Nice tip but if you are an idiot and use a dumb password like 12345 you should not only be hacked but kidnapped and tortured!! Internet 101 never use your name, birth date, address, child's name bla bla... Always use random numbers and small cap + Large cap letters for "secure" (nothing is secure on the internet tho) passwords. This news article is funny how big of ass can you be?? I want to be the exec of a business now if this is all it takes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Woosh

  49. Policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So today we learn the value of password policy. More precisely, the value of ENFORCING a password policy.

    The simple things we knew about 20 years ago. Screen saver lock + password. Minimum 8 characters alphanumeric, minimum complexity involving upper and lowercase characters, at least one number and a special character. This cannot be a dictionary word, a "1337" word and cannot be too similar to your previous. This password must chance every 3 months. This password cannot be shared or written down, failure to comply will get you in trouble/sacked.

    If a password policy like the above s was enforced such things would still happen, but the occurrence of such would go down by an order of magnitude at least.

    Considering that with today's technology brute-forcing passwords with some graphics card compute power has taken things to a new level, let's up the game to 12 characters with above mentioned rules. Heck, use a pass phrase with a public key if you can, 2048 bit minimum.

    You know all those boring "best practices" that people have spent years writing down, because of hard lessons learned and so on? pay attention to those.

    1. Re:Policy by Larryish · · Score: 1

      The above policy is made of FAIL.

      The above policies lead people to the sort of passwords that get written on yellow sticky-notes and put underneath monitors and keyboards, or written on the back of a business card in the purse or wallet.

      Requiring "8 characters, at least one each of UPPER and lower case alphabet and at least 1 numeric character, to be then compared against a blacklist of common or easily exploited passwords" is the best way to go.

      When reinstalling machines for clients, or machines to sell, i usually go with lowercase-number-UPPERCASE.

      "snow86FALL" is quite a bit easier to remember than "J&Ff54$3(jG4D" and provides sufficient entropy for most uses.

      And the 3-month expiry is right out. Short-term expiry policies are the sort of smoke and mirrors that management types use to pretend that they are "Doing Something About Security(TM)".

  50. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Informative

    Or this approach for secure passwords. You must make it hard to guess by other people or brute force approachs, not hard to remember .

  51. Re:IT is to blame by Mithent · · Score: 1

    That's true... and, of course, policies should prevent it being changed to 12345.

  52. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Always use random numbers and small cap + Large cap letters for "secure" "

    NOOB!

    If you use a pass-WORD you are a fool, a pass phrase with punctuation, numbers and letters of both case.

    One_Two-Three&Four 5!

    is far more secure asfdgesrgDFS and can easily be remembered.

    You need to stop watching the Movie "Hackers" as your knowledge about the "internet" is incredibly out of date to the point that it's highly quaint.

    There, you have been schooled by someone that knows a lot more than you do. Feel better now? Want to go and hack the Gibson?

  53. Was it hacking? by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

    Can you call the access to an account which password is "12345" hacking? To make an analogy, can you call yourself a lock-picker if you open an unlocked door?

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    1. Re:Was it hacking? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      if the door needed you to jam a screwdriver into it to turn the lock then yeah sure.

      after all USA wants a guy extradited for national security level hacking that was just using default passwords so..

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  54. Re:IT is to blame by AlecC · · Score: 1

    My current IT department use month of arrival as the default password for a new account. So someone starting today would get a password of "Feb12". So every time they type it in, you get reminded of how long they haven't changed it. Certainly better than 12345.

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  55. Cracking..? by hilather · · Score: 1

    Even Slashdot has given up on trying to save the word "hacking"...

  56. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with that is that most password-parsing stuff stops reading when it hits whitespace.

  57. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    correct-horse-battery-staple

  58. If they're inside our network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we have bigger problems.

    I can't could the number of times I've heard this lately by alleged "architects" who refuse to spend any attention on internal security., who leave complete access to backup environments for everyone, who use the same administrator passwords in the monitoring systems in plain text, who allow admins to use permanent passwords, and who generally leave themselves vulnerable to the *SAME DAMN PRACTICES* that caused the Morris Worm to take down so much of the Internet 20 years ago.

    They don't learn. They don't want to learn. And they pretend that marking off the checkboxes on their security checklists actually does security work when they know everyone just changes their passwords 13 times in a row to bring it around to their original password and gets on with their job.

  59. It's a good password by bluestar · · Score: 1

    Maybe 12345 is really complicated in Arabic. Like MMMMMMMMMMMMCCCXLV.

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    1. Re:It's a good password by WrecklessSandwich · · Score: 1

      12345 are actually Arabic numerals...

    2. Re:It's a good password by masternerdguy · · Score: 1

      You just described Roman numerals, which were deprecated because they are te suckz. Try doing even basic math with Roman numerals then try the same operation with Arabic ones. I can't imagine what a Roman numeral based calculus book would have look like if they were still used widely today.

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  60. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by alreaud · · Score: 3, Informative

    I actually try that xkcd password now on any word list I use. First...;-)

    That approach is Diceware, BTW,
    http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html
    http://happycattech.com/book/security-applications-0 (MS Excel and OpenOffice Calc implementations)

  61. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Zaphod+The+42nd · · Score: 1

    The most important part of that comic is that you use a passphrase, not a password. Passwords are insecure, and trying to make them secure requires using lots of special characters, which as pointed out are hard to remember. Unfortunately, most of the web doesn't allow passphrases, they have pretty short limits on character length. 25 Characters? Good luck finding websites that allow that.

    *sigh*, we could make everything more secure, AND easier to remember, but we're too busy trying to force grandma to use 1337 in her password. Smart.

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  62. IT deparment snafu? by noname444 · · Score: 1

    I can't find any reference in the article, but from the formulation in the summary it sounds like the IT department set up new accounts to have the 12345-password as default (without expiration), and then asked the users to change the password.

    If that's the case it sounds like a terrible idea to me. Better to generate default-passwords as complex random strings. Then it'll be in the users' interest to change their passwords because they're hard to remember and type. And if they don't, even better!

  63. Re:IT is to blame by lgarner · · Score: 1

    So every time they type it in, you get reminded ...

    Every time they log in you get a message containing their cleartext password? Doesn't sound secure to me. Unless you're looking over their shoulders, which doesn't sound good either.

  64. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Dishevel · · Score: 1

    Noob. Once you go to the pass phrase there is no need to complicate things with extraneous caps and numbers.
    There. Now you have been schooled by .... Fuck it.

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  65. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Nadaka · · Score: 2

    The reason password lengths were limited is because people were retarded and storing the password in a database. Now, good policy dictates that you never store a password, only its hash and salt. The only reasons to limit length is to limit the bandwidth required in case someone decides to use the unabridged works of Shakespeare as his pass phrase.

  66. Process and policy by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1

    (which their IT department probably warned them to change when the accounts got set up, of course)

    If the IT department was simply handing that out rather than an initial random password, they are just as wrong. I particularly love how my 401K access was initially first initial, last name, last 4 of the sssn.

  67. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by houghi · · Score: 1

    With the enormous amount of passwords and logins we must remember, I feel that passwords are a technical solution to a social problem.
    The problem is that the majority (if not all) IT people look at it as if their system is the only one that needs to be protected. So they will implement a very secure system. They leave out only one not so unimportant element: human behavior.

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  68. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by VIPERsssss · · Score: 1

    Look, I like XKCD, but do we have to post a comic in every goddamn thread?

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  69. The air raid on Coventry. by wfstanle · · Score: 2

    The German air raid that almost destroyed Coventry was an example of this, The Brits knew it was coming but they also knew that the Germans were beginning to get suspicious. As a result, the British government felt that they had to let this air raid occur even though they knew many people would be killed.

  70. Re:IT is to blame by Ragun · · Score: 1

    Yes, I believe you have happened over a bit of sarcasm. Note the distinguishing language, such as the use of 'of course'

  71. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by steveg · · Score: 1

    Yes.

    Any other questions?

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  72. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    correcthorsebatterystaple
    correct_horse_battery_staple

  73. Re:Mine is 54321 UNREAL by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    I'm sure that phrase already was added to all password cracking tools :-)

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