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Wikipedia Hasn't Forgiven GoDaddy
netbuzz writes "The fact that a month and a half has gone by and Wikipedia still hasn't followed through on Jimmy Wales public threat to remove its domain name registrations from GoDaddy over the latter's early support of SOPA has some concerned that the online encyclopedia may have had a change of heart. After all, GoDaddy did withdraw its backing of the controversial antipiracy legislation, at least publicly. But fear not, SOPA foes, as Wikipedia says its days with GoDaddy are indeed numbered and that number is getting very small."
Let's also not forget all the other ways GoDaddy sucks:
So fuck GoDaddy. There's plenty of registrars with better service that cost less anyway.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
I have not forgiven my congress critters either. Looking forward to November.
I expect with a company the size of Wikipedia, particularly one with Wikipedia's web presence, switching your hosting around isn't really something you can do on the turn of a dime.
On the other side of the coin though (er, so to speak) i wonder if this is really the best tactic. I mean, i couldn't wish for the fallout to land on a more deserving company, but will this affect Wikipedia's bargaining position for similar situations in the future? Threatening to punish people for actions you don't like is just fine (well, assuming you stick to legal methods of course) but if they recant and you follow through on your threats regardless, would the next company you deal with have any reason to recant?
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they are waiting till their next billing cycle, news at 11
Doubt GoDaddy cares at all. How many domain names does Wikipedia own? Times $8.95/yr or whatever....
GoDaddy will seriously not even notice.
It'll make some geeks feel good though I suppose!
I called up hover.com. Spoke with someone on the phone, gave her my godaddy login info. She did all of the work for me. I'm done with godaddy, and I can't think that there is any possible way it could have been easier.
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And this costs GoDaddy what, $2.95? It's just domain registration. Wikipedia isn't hosted by GoDaddy.
There's a hierarchy of registrars. At the top is MarkMonitor, which registers domains like "ford.com". If you have to ask how much their registration costs, you can't afford it. This is where you register a "must stay up" domain. If anything goes wrong with a MarkMonitor registration, alarms go off and teams of DNS admins and lawyers swing into action.
Network Solutions is a reasonable registrar for corporate domains. They have "amazon.com", for example. If something goes wrong, you can usually get them ont he phone and get them to do something.
Much further down is GoDaddy. But they're not the bottom. Below GoDaddy are the bulk registrars, like Enom. That's where you register junk domains for link farms, domaining, and other dubious activities. At the bottom are the registrars in the ICANN list that don't even have valid contact information. It's not clear what they're doing, but it's probably not good.
If they are going to transfer why haven't they yet? It took me about 2 hours for the entire process to transfer ALL of my domains from one registrar to another, and could have gone quicker than that.
I'm just waiting for the personal appeal to boycott Godaddy.
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Have you ever tried to switch from GoDaddy? I'm sure they're just having difficultly figuring out HOW to unregister from GoDaddy. It took me about 5 tries over the course of three months and I only had one domain to deal with.
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Wikipedia has become the worlds foremost authority of information sharing. Thus being one of the most dependable educational tools around. Why on earth would a big company like this, stoops to some jack in the box, shit handed company some wanker made in his basement? I would rather pay 35 dollars a year through register.com and be safe in the knowledge, that this company will never take sides, and never play around with DNS. They value business not opinions. That includes SOPA/PIPA supporters. (*flips the middle finger at the arse gnawing vermin*).
And THERE IS a way to transfer it OFF of godaddy with ease.
-MAKE AN ACCOUNT ON REGISTER.COM....
-TRANSFER THE WIKIPEDIA OWNERSHIP over to REGISTER.COM...
-RESET THE IP and Alias names in Account settings..
It doesn't take a rocket science to swing through a loop hole bigger than obama's ahole!
And nor have I. I've transferred all of my domains and cancelled all services I had through them. This was not without great expense, but fuck them. I would rather give my money to someone that doesn't want to act as a cop.
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I did though. Fuck SOPA fuck Go Daddy
For a blow job from Danica Patrick. Based on the commercials he figures he's got a good shot.
I though you had staked out the moral high ground very neatly, but in the last paragraph you went all self-indulgence about WP and fell back to the level of choosing sides based on personal prejudice, like the rest of us mere mortals.
The fact is that most people believe they are doing TheRightThing(TM) most of the time. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ivan the terrible, OBL, George Washington, you, me, grandma, and the wiggles, did not get to where they did by believing what they were doing was evil. For example if you could ask OBL what he did with his life he would probably tell you with genuine sincerity that he spent it "fighting evil". So from my POV good intentions are not a valid excuse for supporting racketeering via congressional decree, particularly for a corporation one would expect has the expertise to build decision trees that would likely foresee the potential harm. If it wasn't on their decision tree before all the hoohaa, it is now.
Being generous I'd say GD displayed admirable self-skepticisim on the issue. Being cynical I'd say GD are like any other company, what they fear most is becoming a public pariah.
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People don't seem to get that for a seriously popular site that must not go down, it's just not the same class of phenomenon as picking a registrar more or less at random (the same process by which people ended up on GoDaddy in the first place) to move your blog's DNS to. It's literally taken weeks to make absolutely sure that the transition damn well will go smoothly. This on top of, like, the actual work the WMF is supposed to do. AIUI, there should be an announcement next week or so.
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I presume that if Wikipedia moves its domain name registrations, it is probably also doing some due diligence to assure itself that any company it does work with can provide both the level of service and also has policies that are roughly in line with its views.
I'm not sure what the technical difficulty is, because GoDaddy only appears to provide its domain name registrations, not provide the Wikimedia servers themselves, which appear to be in colocation facilities. Maybe someone can explain if there are any such issues??
Maybe Wikipedia could establish its own domain name registrar? The fixed cost seems to be only about $4000.....
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Obviously, they've bitten off a little more than they can chew with their threat to drop GoDaddy.
The Green candidate was only 900 votes behind the Conservative at the 2005 general election and they'd been gaining ground for years. It had been much discussed as a possibility, which doubtless boosted people's awareness of her candidacy.
Brighton is a special case, being known for being lefty and socially liberal, and given its large LGBT population.
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_nothing_ is lower and more 'criminal scumbag' than hopone aka superb.net ... they are out and out criminals. superb.net gets its business ethics by scraping the bacterial contents of a feral hog. mafia, these guys are straight up mafia. a god damned unending _nightmare_ to deal with. a true spam haven who has thus far escaped real punishment by law, somehow wriggling out at the last possible moment. they have been investigated by the FBI, but for some reason not prosecuted.
_nothing_ is lower and more 'criminal scumbag' than hopone aka superb.net ... they are out and out criminals. superb.net gets its business ethics by scraping the bacterial contents of a feral hog's lower intestine. mafia, these guys are straight up mafia. a god damned unending _nightmare_ to deal with. a true spam haven who has thus far escaped real punishment by law, somehow wriggling out at the last possible moment. they have been investigated by the FBI, but for some reason not prosecuted.
It took longer then expected to get approval for it at work, but I just moved ~60 domains off them this week. They should never have been part of SOPA and they are not the kinda company I want to do business with.
Primary for the best candidate you can find (a lot of people ignore this step, and then go on to bemoan that they only have two choices in the general election)
In 2008, my preferred candidate was mathematically eliminated before the primaries even got to my state.
Non-federal politics matter a whole lot
The article is about copyright law, which is exclusively federal. How do non-federal politics matter to copyright? Or are you talking about the option of somehow getting three-fourths of the states to put substantive limits on Congress's power under the copyright clause?
I don't even know how those clowns are in business. Reprehensibly evil company, shitty customer service, run by morons, idiotic ad campaigns....
When a corp apologizes, its the PR or marketing dept providing cover for the management's agenda. When they become activists on something that is not a misstep where even an honest apology can be believed because it reveals the agenda. They continue after being discovered with better cover or by alternative means; sometimes nothing changes except some money is put into PR cover.
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(Note from Wikipedia: By May 2011 there had been at least six suicides and hundreds of suicide attempts in GuantÃnamo that are in public knowledge.)
"Key prisoners at Gitmo still have not talked -- because our interrogation methods are so weak."
(Are we really going to get into a sincere discussion about the efficacy of torture? What about we pause first at the idea of whether it's ethical?)
"Given the type of individuals we have incarcerated at Gitmo (all of them would love to gouge out your eyes-"
(including children and old men?)
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We do not forget.
What kind of message would it send to all the others? The only solution is a rock hard stance against them. and speaking of SOPA / PIPA and ACTA...
Somebody has suggested "Operation Obituary" which as I understand it goes like this: "Download, copy and pirate the music of anybody that has died, because the artist will not actually get any of the money, and estates are not the same as the artist."
I think this came up because Whitney Houston died, and the the RIAA is always talking about how the poor artist do not get their fair share.