Russian Scientists Revive Plant From 30,000-Year-Old Seeds

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Russian Scientists Revive Plant From 30,000-Year-Old Seeds

Posted by Soulskill on Monday February 20, 2012 @11:30AM from the to-make-a-new-type-of-vodka dept.

An anonymous reader writes "It was an Ice Age squirrel's treasure chamber, a burrow containing fruit and seeds that had been stuck in the Siberian permafrost for over 30,000 years. From the fruit tissues, a team of Russian scientists managed to resurrect an entire plant in a pioneering experiment that paves the way for the revival of other species. The Silene stenophylla is the oldest plant ever to be regenerated, the researchers said, and it is fertile, producing white flowers and viable seeds. ... 'The squirrels dug the frozen ground to build their burrows, which are about the size of a soccer ball, putting in hay first and then animal fur for a perfect storage chamber,' said Stanislav Gubin, one of the authors of the study, who spent years rummaging through the area for squirrel burrows. 'It's a natural cryobank.'"

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That could be a market hit! by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2012-02-20 11:34 · Score: 4, Funny

You don't usually see something like this in your gardening store.

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1. Re:That could be a market hit! by SpazmodeusG · 2012-02-20 13:07 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  That shouldn't be modded funny. I remember the Wollembi Pine retailing for $100 a sapling here in Australia a few years ago. Each sapling was numbered. There was a lot of novelty in having the Nth Wollembi Pine in the world.
  There's a hell of a lot of money to be made here.
2. Re:That could be a market hit! by Jarik+C-Bol · 2012-02-20 15:10 · Score: 1
  
  This reminds me of a few years back, when they managed to grow a date palm from seeds found in some ancient egyptian tomb. at the time of the article, the tree was 3 feet tall and doing well.
  
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3. Re:That could be a market hit! by JWSmythe · 2012-02-20 17:26 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  But... how did it taste? :)
  Actually, Wikipedia indicates that was a dubious claim by a con man.
  The reference is dead, but you can get it it via archive.org here
  
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4. Re:That could be a market hit! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 22:45 · Score: 0
  
  The Wollemia nobilis growing in Kew Gardens is protected by a cage. I think, when first planted, it had a security guard...
5. Re:That could be a market hit! by Hognoxious · 2012-02-20 23:10 · Score: 1
  
  What if it grows into some giant triffid/Venus flytrap monster? Perhaps that was what wiped out the dinosaurs. We won't care what it tastes like then. Quite the opposite, in fact.
  
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6. Re:That could be a market hit! by Trent+Hawkins · 2012-02-21 04:48 · Score: 1
  
  Good, let's feed them vegans.
7. Re:That could be a market hit! by Jarik+C-Bol · 2012-02-21 07:50 · Score: 1
  
  I was thinking of this one: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1122_051122_old_seed.html
  
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Oh no by j35ter · 2012-02-20 11:34 · Score: 5, Funny

Another Ice Age sequel *facepalm*

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1. Re:Oh no by elashish14 · 2012-02-20 11:53 · Score: 2
  
  I think you mean Jurassic Park.
  The real-life kind of sequel
  
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2. Re:Oh no by j35ter · 2012-02-20 12:00 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Jurassic park with prehistoric squirrels? Sounds like another George Lucas movie to me...
  
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3. Re:Oh no by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2012-02-20 12:15 · Score: 1
  
  I think you mean Jurassic Park.
  Sounds more like Zyryanka-Sartan Park to me. But that name would never fly on the US marker. :-)
  
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4. Re:Oh no by djlowe · 2012-02-20 12:53 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Jurassic park with prehistoric squirrels? Sounds like another George Lucas movie to me...
  I was thinking more of a sequel to Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "Far more terrifying than the Rabbit of Caerbannog, it stalks its prey as it has since the dawn of time..."
5. Re:Oh no by Yvan256 · 2012-02-20 14:38 · Score: 2
  
  Can't be worst than a George Lucas movie with a duck.
6. Re:Oh no by Culture20 · 2012-02-20 14:56 · Score: 1
  
  Now that Marvel is doing their own movies, they should do a remake, complete with Dr. Bong.
7. Re:Oh no by letherial · 2012-02-20 16:54 · Score: 1
  
  good thing we got holy napalm
8. Re:Oh no by arkane1234 · 2012-02-20 18:44 · Score: 1
  
  Sorry, but even Ice Age was funnier than that.
  
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I saw this movie by jtownatpunk.net · 2012-02-20 11:34 · Score: 5, Insightful

Well the question is, how can you know anything about an extinct ecosystem? And therefore, how could you ever assume that you can control it? I mean, you have plants in this building that are poisonous. You picked them because they look good. But these are aggressive living things that have no idea what century they're in, and they'll defend themselves, violently if necessary.
1. Re:I saw this movie by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2012-02-20 11:42 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  But these are aggressive living things that have no idea what century they're in, and they'll defend themselves, violently if necessary.
  Great, just great. And now we've brought them into an era when handguns are cheap and readily available.
  
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2. Re:I saw this movie by gmuslera · 2012-02-20 11:46 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  You know how marketing works, have this plant, direct from the previous ice age!.if those plants become somewhat popular and get out, i would be worried about our actual ecosystem, Anyway, isnt like something back in the age of dinosaurs or even before. Should not be so big incompatibilities with actual species, and could get back some healty food for us.
3. Re:I saw this movie by Arancaytar · 2012-02-20 11:46 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  At least they'll help us fight the zombies.
4. Re:I saw this movie by Empiric · 2012-02-20 11:50 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  The only movie I can think of is "Little Shop of Horrors", but I don't think that was quite the violent-plant image you had in mind...
  
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5. Re:I saw this movie by Samantha+Wright · 2012-02-20 11:51 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  For the curious, pretty much all plants carry out some degree of chemical warfare between each other and other organisms—from the obvious, like plant seeds full of cyanides, to more subtle things, like conifers acidifying the soil around them with their needles and roots to prevent anything else from growing (and much more subtle things still.) I don't know quite enough about Siberia thirty thousand years ago to make a good statement, but I would guess that it was a little more temperate than it currently is; in that case, it's probable that the plants from that era were chemically more aggressive, as the the availability of resources and the richness of the soil would have been higher.
  Then again, one need only take this particular species further south to find out that it might very well be about average for the present day. Unfortunately there isn't enough historical expression information about plants to make a guess at the inflation rate (or deflation rate) over the long-term for plant toxicity in different ecosystems... but it could make a neat thesis topic.
  
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6. Re:I saw this movie by gregg · 2012-02-20 12:01 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  The only movie I can think of is "Little Shop of Horrors", but I don't think that was quite the violent-plant image you had in mind...
  It could be The Day of the Triffids. Nothing is scarier than malevolent celery.
7. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:05 · Score: 1
  
  Given that this is an ice age tree, from the permafrost, it would likely be cold-adapted. Having it somehow run wild in our post-ice-age onset global warming world is an unlikely scenario.
  In terms of "compatibility", barring any particular characteristics of a specific species (e.g. it being particularly poisonous or indigestible, the same way many (most) modern plants and some animals are for us), you could expect to eat a stegosaurus steak or a Jurassic plant pretty much as readily as a modern buffalo steak or root tuber.
8. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:05 · Score: 0
  
  Well if we revived it from 30k years ago, maybe it'll be hearty and aggressive enough to suffocate kudzu!
  Er, wait...
9. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:10 · Score: -1
  
  hi bonch
10. Re:I saw this movie by Nidi62 · 2012-02-20 12:15 · Score: 2
  
  There's Scary Movie 2 where one of the Wayans brothers gets rolled up and smoked by a giant pot plant....
  
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11. Re:I saw this movie by wbr1 · 2012-02-20 12:22 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  My question is, does Rick Moranis work at this lab? "Feed me Seymore!"
  
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12. Re:I saw this movie by Empiric · 2012-02-20 12:30 · Score: 1
  
  And lest we forget, however tempting that may be...
  
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13. Re:I saw this movie by EdIII · 2012-02-20 12:35 · Score: 1
  
  you could expect to eat a stegosaurus steak or a Jurassic plant pretty much as readily as a modern buffalo steak or root tuber.
  I'm sure the farmer and meat processing plant would disagree.....
14. Re:I saw this movie by DarkOx · 2012-02-20 12:36 · Score: 0
  
  Yes and no. I think the risk is somewhat mitigated by the fact that these are species that already lost evolutions little challenge. Its true that some of the stresses the wiped them out in the first place my be gone, or different. Some of the critters that once ate them may also be different in number for example.
  Its more likely though that the environmental shifts these things failed to cope with in the past have continued and that they are even less 'fit' for today's world than when they left it. They might not be able to survive at all outside of cultivation.
  
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15. Re:I saw this movie by rubycodez · 2012-02-20 12:47 · Score: 1
  
  "An intellectual carrot; the mind boggles"
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_From_Another_World
16. Re:I saw this movie by flyingsquid · 2012-02-20 12:53 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  "How can you do this to us? We brought you back from the Ice Age, and now you've turned on us!"
  "Well, what can I say? I guess I'm just a bad seed."
17. Re:I saw this movie by rubycodez · 2012-02-20 12:54 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  kudzu is good, hides the redneck and hillbilly junk in the yards
18. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:54 · Score: -1
  
  Nope. Unless you mean this?
19. Re:I saw this movie by ganjadude · 2012-02-20 13:19 · Score: 1
  
  you mean "the happening" was a warning and not a story of fiction???
  
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20. Re:I saw this movie by Fjandr · 2012-02-20 13:32 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Actually, the particular species in question is still alive today. It didn't "fail" anything...
21. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 13:48 · Score: 0
  
  Yes according to TFS, these are seedy characters.
22. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 15:55 · Score: 0
  
  Well, you could plant them on the Arizona border ...
23. Re:I saw this movie by Archangel+Michael · 2012-02-20 17:30 · Score: 1, Troll
  
  I would guess that it was a little more temperate than it currently is
  Heresy! We all know that the earth is the hottest it has ever been, and getting hotter, all due to man. At least that is what CNN keeps telling me. /sarcasm
  
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24. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 18:40 · Score: 0
  
  Plants the silent killer...I think...yes I'm sure a movie was made...quick dispose of him before it gets it out...
25. Re:I saw this movie by arkane1234 · 2012-02-20 18:57 · Score: 1
  
  I just pictured a bunch of Chompers from "plants vs zombies", planted inline along the American border...
  
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26. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 20:43 · Score: -1
  
  And oil will never run out! It's America's god-given right (even though god is fictional) to rule the world!
27. Re:I saw this movie by jaymemaurice · 2012-02-20 22:33 · Score: 1
  
  I, for one, welcome our new 30,000 year old siberian overlords
  
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28. Re:I saw this movie by Troed · 2012-02-20 23:17 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know quite enough about Siberia thirty thousand years ago to make a good statement, but I would guess that it was a little more temperate than it currently is
  Not likely. 30000 years ago we were not in an interglacial: http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/dhm1353/Climate%20Change/alley.png
  
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29. Re:I saw this movie by Overzeetop · 2012-02-21 00:54 · Score: 1
  
  Buzzkill.
  
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30. Re:I saw this movie by tehcyder · 2012-02-21 01:27 · Score: 2
  
  But these are aggressive living things that have no idea what century they're in, and they'll defend themselves, violently if necessary.
  Great, just great. And now we've brought them into an era when handguns are cheap and readily available.
  Duh, they're plants, so they don't have hands, so how can they use a handgun? Jesus Christ, people, think these things through.
  
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31. Re:I saw this movie by Mashiki · 2012-02-21 03:17 · Score: 2
  
  Funny how you got modded troll for telling exactly what environmentalists have been going on for about, for years. It's been much warmer than it has now. Much, much warmer. It's also been a hell of a lot colder. $20 says that in 30 years, our kids will be wondering why anyone believed in this.
  
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32. Re:I saw this movie by Walt+Dismal · 2012-02-21 03:27 · Score: 1
  
  Clearly you've never seen the movie "Attack of the Assault-Rifle Carrying Tomatoes" nor the sequel "Texas Corn with Chainsaws Massacre", where carnivorous GMO plants acquire gripper tendrils. In the planned third part of the trilogy, "Cucumbers with Glocks", girls wearing very little are terrorized by hostile mutant vegetables but in the end are saved by guys driving '56 Chevys. In glorious black and white with mono sound track.
33. Re:I saw this movie by ianare · 2012-02-21 04:12 · Score: 1
  
  The plant in question is not extinct, and is part of the current ecosystem in the Siberian tundra.
  Had this been an extinct plant, there would be something to worry about.
34. Re:I saw this movie by El+Torico · 2012-02-21 04:55 · Score: 1
  
  Can I get the sound track on 8 track tape?
  
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35. Re:I saw this movie by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-21 05:01 · Score: 0
  
  galactic gigolo?
36. Re:I saw this movie by Jens+Egon · 2012-02-21 06:45 · Score: 1
  
  ..., and they'll defend themselves, violetly if necessary.
  There, fixed that for you.
global warming = naturally occuring cryobank w/d? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:38 · Score: 0

obviously less than ideal conditions, but isn't this an already well known cycle that occurs at the end of every ice age?
Species previously thought extinct (or endangered) reappeared with changes in climate conditions.
Interesting work none the less.
In Soviet Russia ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:40 · Score: 2, Funny

.. plant revives you!
1. Re:In Soviet Russia ... by c0lo · 2012-02-20 12:16 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  .. revived plants kill you!
  FTFY. From the second FA:
  
  Tragedy has now struck the Russian team. Dr. Gilichinksy, its leader, was hospitalized with an asthma attack and unable to respond to questions, his daughter Yana said on Friday. On Saturday, Dr. Price reported that Dr. Gilichinsky had died of a heart attack.
  
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2. Re:In Soviet Russia ... by Flyerman · 2012-02-20 13:41 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Holy crap. That sounds like the beginning of a novel.
3. Re:In Soviet Russia ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 17:51 · Score: 0
  
  It actually reminds me a little bit of the story of one of the vaults in the newest Fallout game. The vault dwellers had done genetic modification on plants and eventually made some mutant plant strain where the people who breathed the pollen or spores started dying. We really only need to be worried if they start coming back as plant people though.
Enough Problems Already... by rocketPack · 2012-02-20 11:41 · Score: -1, Flamebait

As if we didn't have enough issues with invasive and non-native plant species wreaking havoc on our ecosystems from the stupidity of yester-year? Now we want to revive 30,000 year-old plants and make it worse??? They died for a reason- get over it, move on, do something productive for TODAY.

Am I missing some major potential social or environmental benefit to doing this?
1. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:43 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah -- reviving all the species we've killed with our careless exploitation of the planet.
2. Re:Enough Problems Already... by xaxa · 2012-02-20 11:45 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Am I missing some major potential social or environmental benefit to doing this?
  It proves that it's possible to grow plants from long-frozen seeds, so shows its worth preserving (freezing) seeds just in case something really bad happens to the living plants. (This has already happened, where species have been wiped out in the wild by mining and forestry, then reintroduced once the companies have left.)
  The techniques might be useful for other, more recently extincted (?) species.
  And it's challenging and interesting, that is reason enough.
3. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:47 · Score: 1
  
  The plant might contain the cure for cancer, aids, altzheimers, etc. Then again, it might just taste good mixed in a tossed salad.
4. Re:Enough Problems Already... by rocketPack · 2012-02-20 11:48 · Score: -1, Troll
  
  Human impact on the environment goes back before humans existed? That's impressive.
  
  Also, note that the article makes no mention of any potential benefit to the world. They're just considering this a stepping stone to the ultimate goal of reviving the wolly mammoth. Not kidding. This is purely "because we can" and "so we can make money!" $cience. The potential fallout of this kind of reckless scientific exploitation is something we should have written off many, many years ago. The tone of the quotes in the article remind me of the race for an atomic bomb.
5. Re:Enough Problems Already... by yodleboy · 2012-02-20 11:48 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  do we have to know the benefit up front? So maybe we recover some extinct species that got wiped out by your invasive ones. Or maybe we find a bunch of seeds, grow the plant and find out it's the perfect plant for producing biofuels. Or maybe we restore some lost Amazonian species that just happens to lead to a cure for cancer. Who knows, isn't it worth trying?
6. Re:Enough Problems Already... by peragrin · 2012-02-20 11:48 · Score: 1
  
  The plans contain the cure for cancer or maybe HIV or maybe the common cold? Don't dismIss it until after it Is studied
  
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7. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Beelzebud · 2012-02-20 11:50 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Isn't there like a Flat Earth Society website that you anti-science douchebags can hang out?
8. Re:Enough Problems Already... by HarrySquatter · 2012-02-20 11:52 · Score: 2
  
  Did you fail at math? Homo Sapiens originated about 200,000 years ago. Last time I checked, 30,000 was less than 200,000.
9. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:53 · Score: 0
  
  Human impact on the environment goes back before humans existed? That's impressive.
  (Different A/C here)
  ... you do realize humans are older than 30,000 years, right?
  Anatomically, we're 200,000 years old. Behaviorally, we're 50,000 years old (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human).
10. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:54 · Score: 0
  
  You fool, humans have existed for at least 100,000 years
11. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Jiro · 2012-02-20 12:05 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  If you read the article, which a lot of people on Slashdot don't do, a lot of scientists are skeptical, but even if the Russians did exactly what they said they did, they didn't grow the plants from seeds in the normal sense. They basically cloned the plants, growing them from cells in the seeds--if only a few cells are alive, they could be cloned but it probably wouldn't be enough for the seeds to sprout.
12. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:07 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Did you fail at math?
  Obviously he went to high school in Texas. He probably did very well in math.
13. Re:Enough Problems Already... by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-02-20 12:12 · Score: 1
  
  Am I missing some major potential social or environmental benefit to doing this?
  You mean besides knowing yet another way we can undo some of the damage we've caused to this planet?
  
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14. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:13 · Score: 0
  
  No one said they was releasing it in the wild. I'd imagine it's being kept in a lab. This is good in several ways. The technique proved successful in reviving something old, and you now have a plant to provide genetic comparison from 30,000 years ago compared to now. Having such info can only be good in genetic research especially in regards to evolution. Who knows, this plant may be a cancer curer though probably not. It's research, you just can't measure it's importance until we are long dead usually since something small can lead to something big.
15. Re:Enough Problems Already... by rocketPack · 2012-02-20 12:14 · Score: 1
  
  My mistake, I missed a zero. Funny how many different numbers I see flying around for how old humans are, yet everyone's up in arms about a simple oversight.
16. Re:Enough Problems Already... by rocketPack · 2012-02-20 12:16 · Score: 0
  
  Apparently your place is a good start! I stated an observation and solicited feedback. Isn't that how the scientific community works? You don't seem to like that approach though.
17. Re:Enough Problems Already... by rocketPack · 2012-02-20 12:17 · Score: 1
  
  Thank you for posting the only sensible reply with actual substance. I appreciate your honest, meaningful response!
18. Re:Enough Problems Already... by c0lo · 2012-02-20 12:18 · Score: 1
  
  ... get over it, move on, do something productive for TODAY.
  Like... stop posting on /.?
  
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19. Re:Enough Problems Already... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2012-02-20 12:22 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Then again, it might just taste good mixed in a tossed salad.
  I've heard that it improves the taste of beef synthesized from stem cells.
  
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20. Re:Enough Problems Already... by ankhank · 2012-02-20 12:22 · Score: 1
  
  Also gives some urgency to actually looking hard at the permafrost before it melts.
  No telling what else is frozen in there that we might find handy or decorative to revive (besides mammoths, of course).
21. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:39 · Score: 0
  
  They died for a reason- get over it, move on, do something productive for TODAY.
  
  Why? So you can bitch about that too?
  You've already posted before about how if it doesn't benefit you personally, it shouldn't matter to anyone.
  You are just a short sighted selfish anti-science anti-progress miserable excuse for a human being.
22. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Microlith · 2012-02-20 12:40 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  I stated an observation and solicited feedback.
  No you didn't, you stated:
  
  They died for a reason- get over it, move on, do something productive for TODAY.
  
  So rather than being curious as to what the purpose of this was (since your question was rhetorical, as you obviously don't care about the responses) you insisted that they stop doing this and do something else. What that might be I can't fathom.
  Your post indicates little to no actual curiosity and rather indignation that they are doing something you perceive to not be valuable. So yeah, you're gonna get flamed.
23. Re:Enough Problems Already... by ThePeices · 2012-02-20 12:56 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  My mistake, I missed a zero. Funny how many different numbers I see flying around for how old humans are, yet everyone's up in arms about a simple oversight.
  Hi there, you must be new to Slashdot. Welcome to Slashdot.
24. Re:Enough Problems Already... by rubycodez · 2012-02-20 13:00 · Score: 1
  
  yeah, that stuff just doesn't have the quite the zing of something that died properly in agony spouting blood. I think they should rectify that by putting brains, nerves, ciculatory and endocrine systems from stem cells into that meat.
25. Re:Enough Problems Already... by EdIII · 2012-02-20 13:03 · Score: 1
  
  How is a mammoth either handy or decorative?
  It *might* be handy... but then you would be taking the Flintstones a little too seriously.
26. Re:Enough Problems Already... by djlowe · 2012-02-20 13:28 · Score: 2
  
  How is a mammoth either handy or decorative?
  Well, it's an awful lot of meat... I'd imagine that there'd be a LOT of people willing to pay a premium for a nice mammoth steak, perhaps served with a nice reduction of merlot and portabello mushrooms.. not to mention the fact that you could use the other parts too: Ice Age Oysters, anyone?
  
  You could make a rug out of it's pelt. Then there's the tusks... and you could powder the bones and sell it as an aphrodisiac.
  
  Why, the possibilities are endless!
  
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27. Re:Enough Problems Already... by tomhath · 2012-02-20 13:30 · Score: 1
  
  FTA:
  
  The burrows were located 125 feet (38 meters) below the present surface in layers containing bones of large mammals, such as mammoth, wooly rhinoceros, bison, horse and deer...
  Gubin said the study has demonstrated that tissue can survive ice conservation for tens of thousands of years, opening the way to the possible resurrection of Ice Age mammals.
  Ice Age mammals might be useful today. If nothing else it would be pretty cool to see a mammoth or a wooly rhino..
28. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Fjandr · 2012-02-20 13:34 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Something a lot of people seem to be missing: this is not an extinct species. These are seeds from a plant that is still alive and growing wild in Siberia to this very day.
29. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 13:43 · Score: 1
  
  He failed at math but aced his bible classes.
30. Re:Enough Problems Already... by plover · 2012-02-20 13:45 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  I absolutely agree with you that threatened plants should be preserved. There is a problem, though, and that is some plants are very adapted to a tiny environmental niche. By way of example, there are prairie flowers here in Minnesota that grow only on the south side of sandy glacial moraines in a few mile radius from Glendalough State Park. According to park rangers, efforts to plant them in cultivation elsewhere have failed, as have efforts to transplant them elsewhere in the state. It's something about the soil, the drainage, the natural fertilizers, the rain, the light, the humidity, the temperatures, the snowfall, the bugs, the freezing, all coming together so intricately that nobody knows which environmental cues are required to grow them.
  Overall, this plant does not have great survival traits. And as such, I'd guess that such a plant isn't adding much to the ecosystem. But as often happens with wildflowers, there may be a certain pollinator that is finely adapted to it, meaning that if the plant dies, that specialized moth/fly/insect may die with it. So while the plant may not be directly critical to humans, it's still having some impact on its environment.
  In terms of "what is the most important plant to save", this wouldn't be at the top of the list. And in terms of "if we have storage space to save only 100,000 different seeds, so let's save the ones we know we can grow back", it also won't make the cut. But in terms of "what plants are so threatened that we should preserve their seeds while a few still exist?" it might make that list.
  
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31. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Algae_94 · 2012-02-20 14:10 · Score: 1
  
  Why have most people decided that the current ecosystems on Earth are as they should be forever? It seems like there is this desire to correct anything that results in population balance changes. Do we really think that we can stop all environmental and evolutionary change on Earth forever?
  
  Things have been changing for a long time with and without our direct intervention.
  
  Invasive species suck sometimes. They can cause a loss in species diversity. They can also be a tremendous driving force for adaptation by the struggling native species. Every species could have been considered invasive at some point in history or they would have never become established. I'm not condoning wanton spreading of species around the world, but I don't think it's going to cause some sort of complete ecological collapse if some weed starts growing in peoples backyards.
32. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 15:02 · Score: 0
  
  That would mean he aced his math classes since 6000 is less than 30,000.
33. Re:Enough Problems Already... by HarrySquatter · 2012-02-20 15:34 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  No you're way more than a zero off. Homo Erectus originated nearly 2 million years ago. So even if it had been 300,000 rather than 30,000 you're still nearly an order of magnitude off from being even remotely right.
34. Re:Enough Problems Already... by El_Oscuro · 2012-02-20 15:40 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Kind of like the Venus Flytrap. Contrary to popular belief, it is native to the coastal plains of North/South Carolina, not some exotic tropical jungle. Efforts to introduce them elsewhere have mostly failed, even though apparently someone has done so in New Jersey. I have a nice small colony which I grow outside year round in Maryland, but it requires upkeep. These plants would never survive here without my help. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? H'mm, those plants look a little big to be eating just insects. Are they supposed to be moving like that? Wait a #y!(132~a... NO_CARRIER
  
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35. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Daniel+Dvorkin · 2012-02-20 15:47 · Score: -1, Flamebait
  
  My mistake, I missed a zero.
  Suuure you did, buddy.
  
  Funny how many different numbers I see flying around for how old humans are, yet everyone's up in arms about a simple oversight.
  And all of the numbers are a hell of a lot bigger than 30000. Face it, you're an ignorant Luddite whose opinions on this or any scientific matter are of less value than my dog's barking, and every post you make just underscores that fact. Now go play, kid, the grown-ups are talking.
  
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36. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Macgrrl · 2012-02-20 17:36 · Score: 1
  
  *Snort* Now I need to clean my display.
  
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37. Re:Enough Problems Already... by JWSmythe · 2012-02-20 17:40 · Score: 1
  
  That would be the same district that redefined pi as 3?
  I know, I know. urban legend. It's still funny though. :)
  
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38. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Intropy · 2012-02-20 19:04 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  And that's just going back to erectus. Everything in Homo is definitely "human" and habilis is at least 2.3 million years ago with no reason to believe it's the earliest. But even that is a bit stingy for my taste. I think it's fair to consider anything in Hominina to be human. How long ago Hominina arose is unclear, but there is some evidence for an age of at least 7 million years and other evidence that it cannot exceed about 5.5 million years.
39. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 19:04 · Score: 1
  
  Now go play, kid, the grown-ups are talking.
  
  You don't appear to be one of those grown-ups though.
40. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Intropy · 2012-02-20 19:07 · Score: 1
  
  Exactly. And even if none of that works out. What the hell? Why not? "Because we can" works for me.
41. Re:Enough Problems Already... by zephvark · 2012-02-20 19:54 · Score: 2
  
  Something a lot of people seem to be missing: this is not an extinct species. These are seeds from a plant that is still alive and growing wild in Siberia to this very day.
  This is not an adequate summary. They are seeds from a plant that's the 30,000-year-old ancestor of the plants that are alive today. There will be differences. The differences will be worth studying.
42. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 21:12 · Score: 0
  
  It's probably more likely something to do with fungus and other organisms.
43. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 22:37 · Score: 0
  
  [I work at a botanic garden (as a software developer). Posting anonymously as I could be easily identified otherwise.]
  
  I absolutely agree with you that threatened plants should be preserved. There is a problem, though, and that is some plants are very adapted to a tiny environmental niche. By way of example, there are prairie flowers here in Minnesota that grow only on the south side of sandy glacial moraines in a few mile radius from Glendalough State Park.
  Do you know what it's called? I could look it up in our databases, and see if we have it (in the botanic garden, or in the seedbank).
  
  In terms of "what is the most important plant to save", this wouldn't be at the top of the list.
  It may well be near it, if a small change to its environment could wipe it out.
  
  And in terms of "if we have storage space to save only 100,000 different seeds, so let's save the ones we know we can grow back", it also won't make the cut.
  The seed bank here has over 1 billion seeds, covering over 10% of all plant species. The aim is to bank *all* species -- though present techniques prevent some kinds of seed from being preserved (e.g. palm seeds, like coconuts, which are very wet, are difficult. I think they have to freeze the embryo in liquid nitrogen).
44. Re:Enough Problems Already... by nospam007 · 2012-02-20 23:19 · Score: 1
  
  "It proves that it's possible to grow plants from long-frozen seeds, so shows its worth preserving (freezing) seeds"
  Actually it doesn't. Don't know if this article mentions it, but anyway, in this case the plants were cloned from embryonic parts of the frozen plants, no seeds involved.
  The cloned plants developed seeds later on, like always.
45. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Hognoxious · 2012-02-20 23:21 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  ... you do realize humans are older than 30,000 years, right?
  Joan Rivers and some parts of Cher are even older than that.
  
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46. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-21 01:26 · Score: 0
  
  no, humanity evolved when we left Africa. The negroid race lacks the brain power to be civilized.
47. Re:Enough Problems Already... by SailorSpork · 2012-02-21 02:19 · Score: 1
  
  I for one welcome our recently-resurrected clone Dodo overlords.
48. Re:Enough Problems Already... by El+Torico · 2012-02-21 05:05 · Score: 1
  
  We should be really careful with any alien spaceships we run across though.
  
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49. Re:Enough Problems Already... by Fjandr · 2012-02-21 12:56 · Score: 1
  
  Gene sequencing for plants is still pretty much in its infancy. Species differentiation is still done visually, by-and-large.
  Unless and until they do gene sequencing and find significant enough variance between the two, they will be classified as the same species (at least judging from the meager details in the article). The likelihood of there being enough variances for that to be the case is small, though still possible. The changes (or lack thereof) are worth studying, but jumping to the conclusion it is a separate species requires substantive proof when none currently exists.
50. Re:Enough Problems Already... by plover · 2012-02-22 14:34 · Score: 1
  
  Do you know what it's called? I could look it up in our databases, and see if we have it (in the botanic garden, or in the seedbank).
  I wish I remembered. It was about 10 years ago, and my son's scout troop did a service project harvesting some geum triflorum (prairie smoke) seeds for the ranger. They were drying them out for distribution to prairie restoration projects. We stored them in a shed, and as we delivered the seeds he told us of this other nearby endangered flower that they had no success transplanting. It might have been "Frenchman's Bluff moonwort".
  
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So...what happened to the squirrel? by gimmebeer · 2012-02-20 11:44 · Score: 1

Scientists just come along and steal the food you've had stashed for 30,000 years... being a squirrel is rough.
1. Re:So...what happened to the squirrel? by djlowe · 2012-02-20 13:15 · Score: 0
  
  So...what happened to the squirrel?
  The scientists found it frozen nearby, and after taking samples, dismembered it and made stew. One scientist, on sabbatical from an unnamed US university, was heard to exclaim: "That's good eatin'!"
  
  Others weren't as enthusiastic, however, stating that they found it tough and overly gamy, and criticized the accompanying wine as being of a particularly poor vintage, one not nearly suited to the momentous occasion.
  
  Irreverently yours,
  
  dj
little shop of horrors by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:46 · Score: 0

Apparently they haven't seen this movie in Russia yet
1. Re:little shop of horrors by Sulphur · 2012-02-20 17:04 · Score: 2
  
  Apparently they haven't seen this movie in Russia yet
  Do you suppose it was considered anti-Soviet?
just what I need by bandy · 2012-02-20 11:52 · Score: 5, Funny

Just what I need - another plant to be allergic to.

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1. Re:just what I need by c0lo · 2012-02-20 12:19 · Score: 1
  
  Just what I need - another plant to be allergic to.
  TFA the 2nd:
  
  Tragedy has now struck the Russian team. Dr. Gilichinksy, its leader, was hospitalized with an asthma attack and unable to respond to questions
  
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2. Re:just what I need by voidphoenix · 2012-02-20 21:39 · Score: 1
  
  Sadly, it's worse than that. He's apparently passed away due to a heart attack. I suppose it was brought on by the stress of the asthma attack. RIP Doc.
  
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Here, doctor! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 11:54 · Score: 0

Take my HELIX FOSSIL. I'll be right back.
Scrat? by Vrallis · 2012-02-20 12:04 · Score: 0

Was Scrat's acorn in there too? Did the poor little guy ever get his treasure?
After the plant matures... by Lumpy · 2012-02-20 12:06 · Score: 2

It will spray it's euro toxin at the researchers and take over their bodies with it's spores. commanding it's new plant zombie army to take over the world!
and it will have fabulous parties.

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1. Re:After the plant matures... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:29 · Score: 0
  
  It will spray it's euro toxin at the researchers and take over their bodies with it's spores. commanding it's new plant zombie army to take over the world!
  and it will have fabulous parties.
  >euro toxin
  Is that the one that causes them to manage their finances like a European country? If so, they'll soon be out of grant money and we won't have to worry about them or their prehistoric plants any longer.
2. Re:After the plant matures... by CompMD · 2012-02-21 07:13 · Score: 1
  
  Euro toxin? I didn't know this plant was found in Greece.
We never learn by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:07 · Score: 0

Have we learned NOTHING from Jurassic Park?
1. Re:We never learn by powerspike · 2012-02-20 12:21 · Score: 1
  
  Have we learned NOTHING from Jurassic Park?
  You don't need to run fast, just faster then the next person...
2. Re:We never learn by plover · 2012-02-20 13:49 · Score: 2
  
  Have we learned NOTHING from Jurassic Park?
  You don't need to run fast, just faster then the next person...
  In this case, you just have to outrun the plant.
  
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Bad news good news by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:13 · Score: 1

Bad news, the plant turns out to be carnivorous. The good news, at least we know why the Mammoths died out.
Oblig. Dr. Ian Malcolm by Loopy · 2012-02-20 12:20 · Score: 0

Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming.
I'm not supersticious, but... by MoldySpore · 2012-02-20 12:33 · Score: 4, Insightful

...I really have to question the idea of bringing back life that ceased to exist thousands, and eventually possibly millions, of years ago. Jurassic Park jokes aside, I hope they will take adequate precautions to not bring back something that could wind up being disastrous on the CURRENT iteration of Earth. I'm all for stuff like this, I just hope they err on the side of caution before bringing back random plants and introducing them into a modern ecosystem that has evolved well beyond when some of those plants will have existed.

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1. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:58 · Score: 0
  
  That's what they said to Yaweh, but did he listen? No...
2. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by phantomfive · 2012-02-20 13:04 · Score: 2
  
  There's only one way to find out!
  
  Realistically though, 30,000 years ago the earth wasn't much different than today.
  
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3. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 14:25 · Score: 0
  
  Oh yes... Cause with millions of years behind us we certainly been regressing in the evolution fight-to-death. I'd be more worried about the plant we revive.
4. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Algae_94 · 2012-02-20 14:26 · Score: 2
  
  Some of the oldest living plants today are over 4000 years old. Theoretically then, 30,000 years could be covered by 8 generations of one of these extremely long-living plants.
5. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Michael+Woodhams · 2012-02-20 16:52 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Calm down, it is just a plant. There is no reason to expect it to be more dangerous than any one of millions of other plant species which are currently not taking over the world. It was around 30,000 years ago, and spectacularly failed to take over the world back then when it had the chance. The article notes that there is a very similar species (Silene stenophylla) which is around today, also not taking over the world.
  
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6. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 17:26 · Score: 0
  
  Realistically though, 30,000 years ago the earth wasn't much different than today.
  Yeah. Other than a completely different mean temperature, completely different distribution of oceans, forests, deserts, etc... significantly different flora and fauna... There wasn't much different at all.
  Except in all the ways it was.
7. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by arkane1234 · 2012-02-20 19:19 · Score: 2
  
  from about 75,000 years ago until about 14,500 years ago, the world was glaciered over.
  Here's a brief rundown of the climactic change over the years:
  75,000 - 60,000 y.a. - full glacial world, cold and dry (the 'Lower Pleniglacial' or Stage 4)
  60,000 - 25,000 y.a. - 'middling phase' of highly unstable but generally cooler and drier-than-present conditions (Stage 3)
  25,000 - 15,000 y.a. - full glacial world, cold and dry; Stage 2 (includes the 'Last Glacial Maximum')
  (This period includes two 'coldest phases' - Heinrich Events - at around 23,000-21,000 y.a. and at 17,000-14,500 y.a.)
  14,500 y.a. - rapid warming and moistening of climates in some areas. Rapid deglaciation begins.
  13,500 y.a. - nearly all areas with climates at least as warm and moist as today's
  12,800 y.a. (+/- 200 years)- rapid onset of cool, dry Younger Dryas in many areas
  11,500 y.a. (+/- 200 years) - Younger Dryas ends suddenly, back to warmth and moist climates (Holocene, or Stage 1)
  9,000 y.a. - 8,200 y.a. - climates warmer and often moister than today's
  about 8,200 y.a. - sudden cool and dry phase in many areas
  8,000-4,500 y.a. - climates somewhat warmer and moister than today's
  Since 4,500 y.a. - climates fairly similar to the present
  (except; about 2600 y.a. - relatively wet/cold event (of unknown duration) in many areas)
  This info from: http://www.esd.ornl.gov/projects/qen/nerc130k.html
  
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8. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by phantomfive · 2012-02-20 19:25 · Score: 1
  
  OK, that's great, but it's not like we're going to find a plant that suddenly grows wildly and removes all oxygen from the air, killing the human race. There is nothing different in the climate 30,000 years ago that would indicate that the plants then were drastically different than the plants now.
  
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9. Re:I'm not supersticious, but... by Sigg3.net · 2012-02-20 21:11 · Score: 1
  
  If grass had guns....
  
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Russia rocks by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 12:54 · Score: 0

Say what you will about Russia, but it is the next China.
They could accelerate it by taking up Mises economics and reducing the influence of the mob.
If it was legal for a US citizen I would help them spike their economy.
JJ
32,000 years, eh? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 13:31 · Score: 0

...IT'S OVER 9000!!!
1. Re:32,000 years, eh? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-21 08:32 · Score: 0
  
  In other words,
  32000 years ago, it was hotter and not frozen.
Obligatory tag by RareButSeriousSideEf · 2012-02-20 14:05 · Score: 1

#whatcouldpossiblygowrong

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Good thing the seeds didn't come from Monsanto by Valacosa · 2012-02-20 14:57 · Score: 0

Terminator genes would have made this sort of thing impossible.

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1. Re:Good thing the seeds didn't come from Monsanto by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 17:27 · Score: 0
  
  Ugh, that's myth. Monsanto doesn't use GURTs, which is too bad, because then we wouldn't have all the whining about cross pollination (because, you know, transgenes are the only genes in all of history that have ever experienced genetic drift or been found somewhere they weren't wanted).
That's nothing! by Niobe · 2012-02-20 15:03 · Score: 1

A bloke round here found a tree MILLIONS of years old and it was still ALIVE. http://www.wollemipine.com/aboutwp.php
1. Re:That's nothing! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 18:09 · Score: 0
  
  Technically the trees are only thousands of years old. Colonies may have existed for many thousands of years, but its not like that tree is millions of years old. The species is however millions years old.
  However it did a neat trick in hiding for over 200 years. They grow somewhere in my back yard. My Back yard is Wollemi national park. The Park rangers set traps in my backyard to collect hair samples from unidentified small marsupials. There is most likely stacks of rare/unknown stuff in there. Its the 2nd largest park in NSW. Take a look on google earth, shes massive.
2. Re:That's nothing! by Niobe · 2012-02-21 13:55 · Score: 1
  
  I spent some time trying to find them myself in the Wollomi. Bloody awesome national park - apart from the dog packs.
SWM seeks Slashdot from 6 years ago by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 15:06 · Score: 0

I miss you Slashdot--the old Slashdot that is. Your comments used to be insightful and thought provoking. Now I just click on the comments to see if I've rightly guessed the particular flavor of insipid drivel you're producing these days. I know you're still out there somewhere, but like me, I think you lurk because any intelligent and informative comment will just be lost on people whose goal in life is to see "(Score:5, Funny)" after their post title. Where have the scientists, dreamers, geeks and ethical hackers gone? Where did all the CSI watching, fear-mongering, smart ass posers come from? Please let me know if we can meet somewhere, preferably in private, and recapture the glory. You know how to reach me.
1. Re:SWM seeks Slashdot from 6 years ago by flimflammer · 2012-02-20 19:21 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks for adding to the garbage.
What happened? by Niobe · 2012-02-20 15:13 · Score: 1

The world got stupider my friend, hadn't you noticed?
1. Re:What happened? by Niobe · 2012-02-20 15:14 · Score: 1
  
  ..but it's always been at least 90% stupid
Amber? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 15:42 · Score: 0

Perhaps they have the DNA of a species of creature (from the creatures blood) in the body of a mosquito which accidentally fell into some amber. They can extract the DNA of the creature from the blood held in the mosquito and resequence the DNA, adding bits of DNA from ...say a frog or amphibian. But then the animal...creature gets loose on the island, and the people need to get off the island via helicopter because "Danger, objects in mirror are closer than they appear", and I've seen the movie. Still, its impressive what they did. Not like the movie mind you, but still impressive.
FailzOrs by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-20 16:05 · Score: -1

worthwFhile. So I
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The Day of the Triffids! by arcite · 2012-02-20 23:14 · Score: 1

Is upon us! Make sure to stock up on incendiaries and rations.
Off topic - I like your sig by Kupfernigk · 2012-02-21 00:37 · Score: 1

When I was at University, the college chapel organ was replaced and, in the interval, the company supplied an electronic organ. The College chaplain took the organist (now a professor at Oxford), pointed at the banjo stop and said "If you ever pull that you're never going to play the organ here again!" I am pretty sure he managed it more than once without the Chaplain noticing a thing.

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Does this make it the world's oldest known life? by arkham6 · 2012-02-21 01:36 · Score: 1, Interesting

Since its 300,000 years old from seed to flowering, would that not define it as the world's oldest living thing?
Off course the modern question is: by Errol+backfiring · 2012-02-21 02:45 · Score: 1

Who owns the copyright?

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The real question here is... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-21 04:21 · Score: 0

...but how does it TASTE?
Really Slashdot, No Krynoid references? by tekrat · 2012-02-21 04:21 · Score: 1

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Krynoid
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Seeds_of_Doom
For shame... for shame...
No one remembers their Tom Baker Dr. Who episodes.

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Skrat FTW by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-21 04:49 · Score: 0

Thank you Skrat
And if something does go horribly wrong... by ToddInSF · 2012-02-22 01:19 · Score: 1

It'll mean plenty of jobs to deal with it and scientific progress !
jurassic park by hesaigo999ca · 2012-02-22 09:02 · Score: 1

Jurassic Park meets little shop of horrors!
Hope Rick Moranis isnt in this one!