Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix Ready For Download

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Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix Ready For Download

Posted by samzenpus on Thursday March 8, 2012 @12:52PM from the come-and-get-it dept.

TheNextCorner writes "The Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix is ready for download! The recommended distro to run on the Raspberry Pi is a Remix of the Fedora open source software. The Remix is a distribution comprised of software packages from the Fedora ARM project, plus a small number of additional packages that are modified from the Fedora versions or which cannot be included in Fedora due to licensing issues – in particular, the libraries for accessing the VideoCore GPU on the Raspberry Pi."

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Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by Glasswire · 2012-03-08 12:57 · Score: 2, Informative

Still waiting....
1. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by rzr · 2012-03-08 13:05 · Score: 1
  
  there is also one for me ... i'll probally stick to debian ... but promise I'll test that rpm based distro !
  
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2. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by zoward · 2012-03-08 13:42 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  There's a debian squeeze port available now right here. The problem is that it was never compiled to do floating point instructions in hardware, so you're going to lose some seroius performance by using it over Fedora.
  There are two "stock" Debian ARM distros. The one in stable (the "Arm EABI" port) doesn't support floating point. There's also one in the unstable branch called "armhf" which has support for ARM hardware floaitng point, but only for ARMv7 and up. Raspberry Pi is ARMv6 (notes for armhf platform are here..
  
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3. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by HansKloss · 2012-03-08 13:47 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Get Gentoo instead.
  It will finish compiling shortly before Raspberry Pi arrives.
4. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by Spacelem · 2012-03-08 21:54 · Score: 1
  
  I used to run Gentoo many years ago. I could get it up and runing (enough to watch DVDs in GNOME) in about 5 hours on a system that was a few years old and only midrange when I built it.
  A complete recompile of everything would take about a day and a half. I gave up because I couldn't be bothered with the admin, not because it took too long.
5. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by makomk · 2012-03-08 23:13 · Score: 1
  
  Also, Ubuntu doesn't support ARMv6 hardware at all and apparently it took a lot of yelling at the Raspberry Pi Foundation by Shuttleworth before they stopped describing it as being able to run Ubuntu. It seems to be mostly FPU-less chips for embedded applications that are still ARMv6 these days.
6. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by Hatta · 2012-03-09 02:10 · Score: 1
  
  WTF Debian? What happened to being the "Universal Operating System"?
  
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7. Re:Bur where's my Raspnerry Pi to run it on? by drinkypoo · 2012-03-09 02:23 · Score: 1
  
  Dude, you know the answer. If you're not happy that Debian doesn't support every architecture out there, you have the source...
  
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Nobody's got one by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-08 12:59 · Score: 1, Interesting

Raspberry Pis are still not available. Can we cut back on the hype until they actually ship?
1. Re:Nobody's got one by fyngyrz · 2012-03-08 13:09 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  No, let's not. This is one very exciting little hunk of hardware. It's legitimate news that the software is ready, too.
  Hey! Did you know that if you're not interested in a story, you can do this thing called "not clicking on it" and that'll keep it ENTIRELY out of your hair? it's high-tech, I know, and not everyone has the 'leet skillz to be able to pull a complex operation like that off, but hey, maybe with some remedial evening classes at your local community college, you too can learn to only click on stories that interest you!
  
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2. Re:Nobody's got one by fyngyrz · 2012-03-08 13:37 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Ok, maybe those 'leet skills are even a little more 'leet than I thought.
  
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3. Re:Nobody's got one by mug+funky · 2012-03-08 14:58 · Score: 2
  
  that's alright, it's not long to wait before the next APPLE APPLE APPLE story you're waiting for...
4. Re:Nobody's got one by drinkypoo · 2012-03-09 02:25 · Score: 1
  
  It IS legitimate news. Unfortunately, I think it pissed off a lot more people than it informed. That's not a reason not to post it. But the actual news is "Fedora is out for R-Pi and you still can't fucking get one"
  
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5. Re:Nobody's got one by specific · 2012-03-09 03:15 · Score: 1
  
  FP pointed this out, but was modded Troll. Slashdot is the new Tumblr.
  
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Can't wait... by fyngyrz · 2012-03-08 13:12 · Score: 4, Interesting

To see what goodies people will come up with that can be "stuck on" this thing. Power monitoring, sensors of all kinds, cameras, serial and parallel ports, wifi and bluetooth, ham radio, maybe an SDR front end, a real time clock (a notable missing hunk-o-hardware), etc.
mmmm, cheap computing. MMMMM!

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1. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-08 13:29 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  Dude, small ARM based computers have been available for a while. Anything you don't need a big screen for can already be done with something like the Seagate Dockstar, Pogoplug and other derivatives of the Sheevaplug. The Raspberry Pi is not revolutionary hardware. It's a nice step forward because it has a graphics port, but that's it. Most people will use it with XBMC or do things that they could already be doing on any of the other small ARM computers at a similar or slightly higher price. Expectations are high because nobody has actually done anything with these things yet, but the sobering reality is that it's just another low-powered Linux computer. It does not open up new possibilities.
2. Re:Can't wait... by oakgrove · 2012-03-08 13:45 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  It's 25 dollars, numb nuts. That's what makes it different.
  
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3. Re:Can't wait... by fyngyrz · 2012-03-08 13:48 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Dude, the pogoplug, sheevaplug and dockstar are all more than twice as expensive as the pi. Those dollars matter. $35 is cookie jar money for a lot more people than $80 or $90 is. It's not just HDMI, it's HDMI and price and expandability.
  
  but the sobering reality is that it's just another low-powered Linux computer. It does not open up new possibilities.
  Um. Well, we will see. Personally, I am pretty confident it will. There are thresholds beyond which certain effects don't occur, and $100 of cookie jar injury is probably one of them. $35... a lot less so. $35 that plugs right into your HD tv or monitor... ok, now we're cooking.
  
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4. Re:Can't wait... by stms · 2012-03-08 14:10 · Score: 2
  
  Tax and shipping will be at most $10. The power adapter most people will probably already have because its a phone charger. If they don't that's probably only another $10. So that's $45-$55 to get the device to your door. Not only that but these will be distributed by schools which means shipping and tax go out the window and they could get a bulk discount for chargers.
5. Re:Can't wait... by CastrTroy · 2012-03-08 14:45 · Score: 2
  
  You must not live in Canada. I ordered mine. It was $12 shipping. Plus they charged $38 CDN for it. Total price after tax was $56. I don't know why I had to pay $38. The Canadian dollar is doing better than the US dollar right now. According to xe.com, $35 US = 34.63 $CDN. I bought it anyway.
  
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6. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-08 16:07 · Score: 1
  
  Not quite -- you have to work to get a distribution all cleaned up to build drivers on the pogoplug. Say for example, that you want to plug an arduino into a pogoplug -- you need the FTDI driver to move serial over the USB and it's not standard on the pogo -- so either you have to build a full custom setup or you have to come up with a way to build the kernel module in a cross compiled environment -- both are doable but both take work. With a full Fedora setup it should be more straight forward to install -- and you might even have the module already in place. Where the pi might win is in providing BOTH open/cheap hardware AND a software environment for it -- as often happens -- if it get's a community behind it then even less than stellar system can flourish,
7. Re:Can't wait... by GuldKalle · 2012-03-08 18:11 · Score: 1
  
  Local sales tax/import tax?
  The argument was that the Raspberry was cheaper than a Pogoplug. Unless the Pogoplugs are produced locally, the argument probably still stands.
  
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8. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-08 21:56 · Score: 1
  
  That said, the RPi's low cost is due to them, for now, running this as a "charity"
  
  They are a UK registered charity which carries some serious weight including full disclosure of all financials and no way for them to change it to a profit making company at the drop of a hat. The goal of this charity really is to help school children learn to program and is supported by some of the best universities in the world who are crying out for better technical understanding in courses like electronic engineering and comp sci.
  Don't confuse the hype with the REAL purpose of this machine or the goals of the people who have set this up (and even re-mortgaged their homes to get the first production run done).
9. Re:Can't wait... by makomk · 2012-03-08 23:07 · Score: 1
  
  Actually, people have been reporting prices as high as 57 euros including shipping in France (about $75, and I'm pretty sure the comment about import duty in that thread is BS because there's no import duty when shipping between EU member states), and a similar price when ordering from Israel. Apparently Farnell were originally wanting $20 for shipping to the US too. Then there's Farnell's minimum value for credit card orders in some countries. In others they refuse to sell to non-business customers full stop.
  Also, notice how all of those posts are in the Off Topic section. That's because their forum moderators have a policy that all discussion of pricing or actually buying the device is off-topic or even outright trolling.
10. Re:Can't wait... by EvilIdler · 2012-03-08 23:53 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, and the Pogoplug isn't even the same class of device. The Pogoplug is a mini-server, while the Raspberry Pi is a client device with a decent mobile GPU. I wouldn't mind one of each. They'd be great together.
11. Re:Can't wait... by zevans · 2012-03-09 01:31 · Score: 1
  
  Sounds more like bad planning too me. For HDMI to be relevant at all compared to VGA we are talking about a screen that supports 1080p and probably is 30"+
  Including HDMI means it will work on your TV. That's the point. Nobody should care what resolution it is as long as it's usable.
  
  If $90 is "a lot of money" you should probably try to balance the setup a bit more, drop some resolution/inches on the display and get a more expensive computer.
  Firstly, how is the $90 relevant? Secondly, you're assuming lower resolution is cheaper. This is probably not true; the cheapest option is the commodity option and right now that's HDMI 1080p.
  
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12. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 02:06 · Score: 2
  
  Raspberry Pi will magically enable them to do something cool.
  Talk about completely out of touch with reality. No dummy. Its all about price/performance metrics. Before the Pi, you'd be spending something in the area of $150-$300. Its the price which makes Pi stand out. Its the price point which move it out of a nitche, expensive research type toy to a much, much wider audience. For the price of one more traditional board, you can now get four to five Pis and that's a hell of a lot of processing power.
  Why is it anymore there are so many on slashdot who can't see what is extremely obvious.
13. Re:Can't wait... by Anon-Admin · 2012-03-09 02:19 · Score: 1
  
  Because he is one of the "hipster nerds who couldn't innovate their way out of a wet paper bag" thus he can not see all the possibilities that these low cost systems bring.
14. Re:Can't wait... by Anon-Admin · 2012-03-09 02:34 · Score: 1
  
  The Pogoplug measures 10.1 x 7.1 inches
  The Raspberry Pi measures 3.370 × 2.125 inch
  Pogoplug seems more of a media server where R-Pi is more development. Where I see the usefulness of this is internet connecting home devices using GPIO. No more build the board with a pic chip and custom write the stacks. The expansion possibilities make this a key device in my opinion.
15. Re:Can't wait... by tehcyder · 2012-03-09 03:54 · Score: 1
  
  It's 25 dollars, numb nuts. That's what makes it different.
  Nowadays, tern year old children have mobile phones worth ten or twenty times that in their pocket. I just don't see that the low price means anything unless you're talking about developing nations as with the OLPC project.
  
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16. Re:Can't wait... by oakgrove · 2012-03-09 03:56 · Score: 1
  
  It means you can buy stacks of them for the price of one of those phones the ten year old kid has in his pocket. If you can't see the value in that I don't know what to tell you.
  
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17. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 03:58 · Score: 1
  
  Unlike the Pi, the Pogoplug needs no proprietary software to support all hardware features. You can install a stock Debian on the Pogoplug.
  The Pogoplug has a 3.3V serial port on board (just like the Raspberry Pi): http://www.hack247.co.uk/pogo-plug-pink-serial-connection/
  You can use a USB-serial adapter instead if you want. It's no more trouble than on any other ARM Linux system (i.e. none at all).
  Not that it's necessary, but you can build a custom kernel and kernel modules on the Pogoplug itself. A cross-compile system is not required, just convenient.
  The Pi hardware is not open. The hardware is manufactured under a licensing deal with the foundation. The firmware and the graphics driver aren't open either.
  Where the Pi truly wins is HYPE.
18. Re:Can't wait... by tehcyder · 2012-03-09 04:00 · Score: 1
  
  $25 and thousands of NEW owners. Nothing revolutionary at all. Might as well have not bothered.
  If you give this to a new non-geeky child owner, they're going to plug it into their TV, see it does nothing much and go and play on their DS instead.
  
  Any kid who was interested in a relatively low spec Linux machine could have bought/been bought a 5 year old + laptop for less than fifty quid already. I got one of my kids a P3 laptop recently for about thirty pounds from ebay and it's got a keyboard, screen and hard drive included already.
  
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19. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 05:10 · Score: 1
  
  A post so full of incorrect facts I just have to post FAIL.
  Yes, It's a charity operation. A charity, and no you cannot just change from charity to profit. It's not legal in the UK. So it's staying a charity. Implying that they are going to go profit do so is extremely poor judgement on your part, since there is no evidence or proof that it is (or indeed can) happen. That said, any Charity needs to run as a business or it goes bust, but all profits, by law, go back in to the charity.
  Prices haven't risen. There were some errors on the distributor websites that have now been corrected. The price, before tax, for the model B is $35.
  The only posts on the forums that are deleted are those with inappropriate language, or insults. Criticism has never been deleted. Threads have been locked when the arguments get over zealous.
  RS have preorders for 200k, Farnell figures not yet available, but likely similar. That may go some way to explaining the launch problems. Demand was much higher than expected. I don't think that is incompetence, in much the same way as the iStore failing yesterday due to iPad3 demand wasn't incompetence either.
  There have been delays - no-one has denied that. Ever heard of OpenPandora? That has delays too, as do many other products.
  The Foundation trustees include local business angels (UK term?) with a lot of commercial experience - it's not just talented techies. The problems encountered have been varied, but nothing unusual for a project like this. The only difference is that the problems have been blogged and posted, warts and all, so that people can see what a PITA it is to do something like this.
20. Re:Can't wait... by arth1 · 2012-03-09 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  Where the Pi truly wins is HYPE.
  I'm probably going to be modded down for agreeing with you, but so be it.
  The $25 model lacks essentials like a network port. It's not going to be a big seller.
  The $35 model isn't $35 - your final bill is going to be much higher.
  Both of them run on an outdated arm CPU family, armv6, where support is dwindling.
  Yes, a beagleboard is more expensive, but not all that much more expensive, given how much more you get, and what you have to pay extra for with the Pi.
  What they have is the dark half of the Elite (the greatest old game ever) to front it. And a veneer of being charitable. So yes, hype.
21. Re:Can't wait... by fyngyrz · 2012-03-10 13:44 · Score: 1
  
  Fyngyrz was fantasizing about "headless" tasks... The CPU simply doesn't have the oomph to do much more.
  No, I wasn't. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're probably thinking of OO software written to slog along in 3 ghz machines; I can tell you flatly that you use a straight C compiler --- or assembler -- do you remember assembler? -- and you can get *great* performance for a whole lot of things out of this thing's CPU. Think back to the Amiga: 20 MHz cpu, 4...8 MB (that's MEGabyte) of ram... and the things you could do were amazing. In fact, there were things you could do you STILL can't do with modern GPUs, such as multiple screen resolutions/bitdepths at once and true sprites, and I doubt those are present in the rpi.
  All that needs done with the rpi is some programmers with decent chops get after this thing. It could do everything from PCB layout and schematic capture to SSTV, games, spreadsheets, word processing and more. And of course if it'll support python, etc., the scripting possibilities alone are almost endless.
  The "problem" is that modern coding is really a very sloppy area. But perhaps for $35, people will be willing to learn to write well again.
  
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22. Re:Can't wait... by RandomAdam · 2012-03-11 13:47 · Score: 1
  
  That seems a bit high,
  
  I paid $46NZ + $7.5NZ for shipping. This is for the model B, which is a far superior product, the ethernet connection alone makes it worth the extra $12 or what ever it is in NZD.
  
  Just have to wait ..... and wait .... and wait ....
  
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Re:Phil Kessel by Rhodri+Mawr · 2012-03-08 13:31 · Score: 1, Offtopic

So is the Raspberry Pi until it ships...
maybe they meant by __aaltlg1547 · 2012-03-08 13:50 · Score: 1

Comprising.
Re:Smell, powerful, and... implantable? by LordLucless · 2012-03-08 15:24 · Score: 2

Aaaaand, the obligatory: http://xkcd.com/644/

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Waiting for Pi Day? by mdsolar · 2012-03-08 17:20 · Score: 3, Funny

3-14 at 3 pm?
Pi Pad by hierophanta · 2012-03-08 18:52 · Score: 1

Im awaiting for the day when someone makes a capacitive touch screen and a bunch of batteries that one of these can be plugged into (enclosed pls).
Sugar Labs? by Ian.Waring · 2012-03-08 19:03 · Score: 2

Any ideas if all the work at Sugar Labs will work on this remix within the current memory size constraints of a Raspberry Pi?
1. Re:Sugar Labs? by Ignacio · 2012-03-08 20:30 · Score: 1
  
  It ought to. The XO-1 has 256MB RAM and a bulkier instruction set, so Sugar should be just a yum install away.
Just stop it! by itsme1234 · 2012-03-08 19:07 · Score: 1

What the heck is going on? You can't even preorder one and the ones ordered already are delayed. In the meantime there are about as many distributions for it as devices out there "in the wild".
We sold only like 10 devices on ebay (and yes, they fetched good money) and now there are thousands of seeds in the torrent for distribution X. And we need even more seeds! And today we repackaged distribution Y, go and download that as well!
Just take the buzz down a bit and start freakin' shipping!
1. Re:Just stop it! by psergiu · 2012-03-08 21:20 · Score: 1
  
  Mine is shipping.
  You should have stayed awake at 06:00 GMT that day.
  
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Further slight delays by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-08 19:53 · Score: 4, Informative

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but the first batch of 10000 pi's have
A component issue
The Ethernet jack on the pi is supposed to include the magnetic components but the Chinese factory
Appear to have substituted the jack for a standard wires only
This issue was only discovered during testing , they had to x-ray the jack to prove the substitution
It won't delay the first batch by much but there may be delays in volume production
Re:Imagine... by jones_supa · 2012-03-08 19:56 · Score: 1

Now after the "pies have come out of the oven", I would love to see a Slashdot story where someone has actually built a Raspberry Pi cluster which does something cool.
Arduino? by ThirdPrize · 2012-03-08 20:41 · Score: 1

How is the Pi going to affect the Arduino market? Is the Pi higher specced and cheaper?

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1. Re:Arduino? by robthebloke · 2012-03-08 22:49 · Score: 2
  
  The Pi is basically an iPad 1 with HDMI instead of the touchscreen, is much powerful than an 8bit arduino, and both are similarly priced. The Pi is basically a nice platform for children to start learning how to program, and for adults who like playing with awesome toys. The arduino is much more geared towards hardware/electronics projects rather than software development. The two platforms don't really compete with each other, but they do compliment each other rather well.... I suspect most people would own both.
2. Re:Arduino? by makomk · 2012-03-08 23:45 · Score: 1
  
  The Raspberry Pi's actually slower than the iPad 1 at least in terms of CPU - it has an older generation of ARM processor clocked at a lower speed. It's more in the ballpark of the iPhone 3GS. I'm not sure how the GPU compares because they're designed by different companies and there's a lot of marketing BS out there. The older ARM CPU does also mean that it can't run the ARM version of Ubuntu.
  These days, there are actually cheap made-in-China ARM tablets with more capable hardware.
3. Re:Arduino? by ZeroSumHappiness · 2012-03-09 00:53 · Score: 1
  
  Also, it's easy to go from Arduino to production of an AVR device. If you build an RPi machine you're always stuck running it on a full Linux machine.
4. Re:Arduino? by mlush · 2012-03-09 01:33 · Score: 1
  
  These days, there are actually cheap made-in-China ARM tablets with more capable hardware.
  link?
5. Re:Arduino? by makomk · 2012-03-09 02:57 · Score: 1
  
  Google/eBay/whatever the Allwinner A10. On paper at least, it's a really quite impressive chip powering some really cheap hardware.
Re:Imagine... by psergiu · 2012-03-08 21:18 · Score: 2

It was already imagined.
It is called a "Bramble".

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Re:Smell, powerful, and... implantable? by psergiu · 2012-03-08 21:24 · Score: 1

It's credit card size. Not "smell" at all.
A bit hard to "safely implant"
Want a covert storage device ? Implant a microSD under a nail. :-) It may hurt a bit. :-)

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Re:Imagine... by mlush · 2012-03-08 23:07 · Score: 1

It was already imagined. It is called a "Bramble".
Interesting, I've contemplated building a cluster as a dev system
Minix/ARM by unixisc · 2012-03-09 00:16 · Score: 2

Methinks the ideal distro for this box would be the ARM version of Minix 3. They should get that on the RP, and start from there.
Wrong name by maroberts · 2012-03-09 01:08 · Score: 1

they should call the release Raspberry Jam or similar. No one puts Fedoras in Pies.

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Free Pi by tomweeks · 2012-03-09 03:34 · Score: 1

I'm in line to get my FREE Pi. Picked up a coupon at the Blacksbug FudCON:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archive:FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012
Planning on turning mine into a MythTV frontend unit. :)
Good times..
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I know! by Pirulo · 2012-03-09 04:38 · Score: 1

Beowulf! ..hm, no?