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Bringing Auto-Graders To Student Essays

fishmike writes with this excerpt from a Reuters report: "American high school students are terrible writers, and one education reform group thinks it has an answer: robots. Or, more accurately, robo-readers — computers programmed to scan student essays and spit out a grade. The theory is that teachers would assign more writing if they didn't have to read it. And the more writing students do, the better at it they'll become — even if the primary audience for their prose is a string of algorithms. ... Take, for instance, the Intelligent Essay Assessor, a web-based tool marketed by Pearson Education, Inc. Within seconds, it can analyze an essay for spelling, grammar, organization and other traits and prompt students to make revisions. The program scans for key words and analyzes semantic patterns, and Pearson boasts it 'can "understand" the meaning of text much the same as a human reader.' Jehn, the Harvard writing instructor, isn't so sure. He argues that the best way to teach good writing is to help students wrestle with ideas; misspellings and syntax errors in early drafts should be ignored in favor of talking through the thesis."

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  1. Why not fewer students and more face-to-face time? by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best English professor I had in college would arrange to have every student come in to her office after papers had been turned in, reading each paper in the presence of the student who had written it and discussing it in depth while grading it.

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  2. How stupid can you get? by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is one area where automatic grading will cause massive skill decrease, as no auto-grader can actually assess contents.

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    1. Re:How stupid can you get? by jcaldwel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is one area where automatic grading will cause massive skill decrease, as no auto-grader can actually assess contents.

      My thoughts exactly.
      Auto graders could check spelling and grammar, and to some extent plagiarism, but without a human reviewing the content, students will learn be gaming the algorithms from day 1.

    2. Re:How stupid can you get? by snowgirl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is one area where automatic grading will cause massive skill decrease, as no auto-grader can actually assess contents.

      There was a guy who was doing Latent Semantic Analysis on papers in order to grade them. The program would parse out the collection of words and assign a form of "meaning" to the words, and see if those "meanings" matched up with the reference "meanings" from another paper. This would show that the writer actually understood the terms correct, and used the appropriately in relation to the other words.

      They did attempt to cheat the system and actually found that if one were extremely well versed on the topic of the essay, one could write gibberish that the grader would give good grades to. However, the level of knowledge of the subject necessary to cheat turned out to be greater than the knowledge of the subject necessary to write a good essay... so they suggested that the easiest way to cheat the system was to "know the subject, and write a good essay".

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    3. Re:How stupid can you get? by snowgirl · · Score: 3, Informative

      BTW, thanks for the "Latent Semantic Analysis" reference, I'll store it carefully... just in case the humanity decides it needs to become more stupid in an automated way.

      Latent semantic analysis has uses far beyond just grading papers. It really is one of the most interesting techniques that we have to assign "meaning" to words. And just like a human being, after being trained sufficiently, it starts getting more information about words by where they are NOT used, than by where they are used.

      Apple used (uses?) it in the spam filter for Mail.app. Meaning it was able to identify spam that used words similarly, and similar words to previously identified spam... it also makes searching for prior art in patent applications much easier, as well as an enormous number of other interesting uses that would not qualify as "making humanity stupider".

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  3. Excellent by nxcho · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's only a matter of time before someone writes a tool that generates top grade essays.

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  4. No way this could backfire whatsoever by BlueRaja · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...thus producing an entire country whose writing-skills were conditioned to game the auto-grader.

  5. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best English teacher I had was my English instructor my first year of undergrad. Instead of concentrating on whether we were writing our papers to the curriculum and/or her own beliefs about the content, she was instead interested in developing our English skills.

    I went from a C student in English to an A student. I never considered myself to have any ability to write, thankfully because someone took the time to actually think critically about my work instead of comparing it to their own preconceived notions I excelled and went on to complete a research and writing focused program. This degree later fed into my graduate degree which was also research and writing focused.

    If this automated grading setup can provide students with clear expectations and explanations of the mechanics of their work while avoiding personal content expectations, I really do think it'll match the claims and help to foster a positive writing environment for many.

  6. Grade This, Robot: +5, Seditious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Allow me to introduce myself. I'm the founder of the Anti-My School Society. In this letter, I will tell you what made me form such an organization and how I plan to use it to strengthen our roots so we can weather the storms that threaten our foundation. Let me cut to the chase: Relative to just a few years ago, the worst sorts of flippant ogres I've ever seen are nearly ten times as likely to believe that the key to living a long and happy life is to provide contumacious conspiracies with the necessary asylum to take root and spread. This is neither a coincidence nor simply a sign of the times. Rather, it reflects a sophisticated, psychological warfare program designed by My School to work hand-in-glove with what I call intrusive vocabularians.

    Even as I write those words I can feel My School cringe. That's okay. Cringe. I don't care because it appears to have found a new tool to use to help it make us the helpless puppets of our demographic labels. That tool is obstructionism, and if you watch it wield it you'll honestly see why it's good at one thing, and that's keeping its ulterior motives secret. Only a few initiates in the inner sanctum of My School's cabal know that it's planning to advocate fatalistic acceptance of a perfidious new world order. Even fewer of these initiates know that I don't need to tell you that we have fallen into My School's trap. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that My School has two imperatives. The first is to judge people based solely on hearsay. The second imperative is to call for a return to that which wasn't particularly good in the first place.

    If you were to tell My School that right is right and wrong is wrong, it'd just pull its security blanket a little tighter around itself and refuse to come out and deal with the real world. My School likes to talk about how cell-phone towers are in fact covert mind-control devices that use scalar waves to beam images into people's brains while they sleep. The words sound pretty until you read between the lines and see that My School is secretly saying that it intends to calumniate helpless rapscallions. I want to advance a clear, credible, and effective vision for dealing with our present dilemma and its most misinformed manifestations, but I can't do that alone. So do me a favor and point out that the emperor has no clothes on. That'll show My School that it's possible that it doesn't realize this because it has been ingrained with so much of Chekism's propaganda. If that's the case, I recommend that we enable adversaries to meet each other and establish direct personal bonds that contradict the stereotypes they rely upon to power their conceited ramblings. Not to put too fine a point on it, but My School's winged monkeys don't want us to disseminate as widely as possible all of the information we have regarding My School's cruel theatrics. That'd be too much of a threat to imperialism, simplism, and all of the other carnaptious things they worship. Clearly, they prefer seizing control of the power structure.

    Efforts to create a factitious demand for My School's spleeny, uncouth analects are not vestiges of a former era. They are the beginnings of a phenomenon which, if permitted to expand unchecked, will push all of us to the brink of insanity. My School exists for one reason and for one reason only: to intensify or perpetuate hoodlumism. My goal is to challenge the present and enrich the future. I will not stint in my labor in this direction. When I have succeeded, the whole world will know that My School somehow manages to get away with spreading lies (big emotions come from big words), distortions (honor counts for nothing), and misplaced idealism (it has a "special" perspective on mandarinism that carries with it a "special" right to worsen an already unstable situation). However, when I try to respond in kind, I get censored faster than you can say "archaeopterygiformes".

    While there's no dispute that My School is whiney and probably a little counterproductive, it's also cunning, implacabl

    1. Re:Grade This, Robot: +5, Seditious by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Grade: C+

      Comments:
      -Comprehensive.
      -Structured arguments ("dichotomy within hegemonic discourse")
      -Good vocabulary ("archaeopterygiformes")
      -Some capitalisation problems ("My School")

      Time: CPU 23.84 s, Wall: 24.09 s

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  7. No thank you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My wife worked for Pearson as a "second tier" grader (or whatever they call them).

    In her case, the tests went through the algorithm and were assigned a grade, then the grade and test were passed along to a human to read and check. Invariably, she would come home complaining about tests where the students had obviously studied specifically to answer the way the algorithm wanted: the algorithm would score the paper high, while the actual content of the test answer would leave a LOT to be desired. The answers would score high, but were more or less gibberish as read by a human.

    This was about two years ago, so obviously the algorithms could have improved since then, but I have severe reservations about them becoming the sole arbiter of grading.

  8. This is *half* right. by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is not that the students don't get enough practice. The problem is that the students don't get feedback until they get their grade.

    Having an auto-grader grade your work is a terrible idea because auto-graders can't handle complex English. I thought it might be a good idea to run a grammar checker across my novels before publishing them just to have an extra set of eyes, so to speak. So as an experiment, I fed some fragments of one novel (that I knew contained no grammatical errors) into about a dozen of these so-called grammar checkers, along with a list of deliberately broken sentences to see if they actually caught problems.

    I just about died laughing at the ludicrous suggestions that the grammar checkers made, mostly stemming from them incorrectly guessing the parts of speech for words that could have more than one meaning. The best of these algorithms correctly reported about 80% of the correct sentences as correct, though many of those algorithms also failed to flag a lot of the incorrect sentences. The worst algorithms flagged more like 80% of the correct sentences as incorrect (and still failed to flag the actual errors in many of the incorrect sentences).

    Based on that, I'd say that having someone's grade depend upon such poor algorithms is a really, really bad idea, I'm guessing it will be at least another 1-2 decades before I would trust a computer-based grader to actually perform grading that counts.

    However, making those auto-graders available to students for online pre-screening of their writing before they hand in the final version would be a good thing, provided they can make them a lot better. Such software is great at catching simple errors, and anyone with poor writing skills can probably benefit from such software pointing those mistakes out, allowing them to correct their own mistakes before handing the assignments in. This allows the students to learn from the mistakes. A well-designed checker could even keep track of what mistakes a student makes regularly and point out the pattern so that the student can learn to watch for that type of mistake in the future. Unlike robo-grading, such software can actually teach students to improve their skills usefully.

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  9. This makes writting essays demeaning by denis-The-menace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I knew that a machine gets to grade my work I would feel like my time and efforts are worth so little that humans can't be bothered to read it. It defeats the purpose of even writing the thing.

    When you write something you are trying to convey an idea. Knowing that the machine doesn't give a fsck proves my efforts are useless.

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  10. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lucky you. For me English class, fro 7th grade through undergrad was a constant string of "infer the hidden meaning behind this text" with nobody ever trying to teach us the process for inferring that hidden meaning. This lead to me being a C student in English for my entire academic career.

    Despite all my efforts, in 8 years of English classes, I was never even able to get a single teacher or professor to explain to me how he knew there were hidden meanings behind the text that was assigned. Nor could I get anyone to tell me why they would put hidden meanings into text, when they could put the meaning the want in the literal text.

    The funny thing is, my English is fine. IIRC I got a 760 on the English portion of the SAT. I always got As on papers in classes other than English, and complements on my writing were common. It seems to me that the way English classes are normally taught, they have nothing to do with English at all.

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  11. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by digitig · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the differences between good essays and poor essays that research has identified is although they both tend to have about the same amount of hedging ("it can be argued that...", "possibly...") the poor essays hedge the wrong things. The poor essays hedge well supported facts and fail to hedge personal opinions or unsupported facts. If the software can spot that, I'll be impressed.

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  12. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by bmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It seems to me that the way English classes are normally taught, they have nothing to do with English at all.

    You have found the hidden meaning behind English classes.

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  13. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by pr0fessor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Writers have placed hidden meaning into their work to express opinions that are not socially accepted or possibly illegal for a very long time. In order to actually understand what any of it means you must first have foreknowledge of the writer, their culture, common issues of the time, and imagery. Even then unless the writer has later explained these things then you will probably never know if those hidden messages were really ever there. Grading someone on it means your teachers/professors were not very good at their profession.

  14. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by Lendrick · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll be honest. I agree with this guy and I most certainly do not have aspergers. :)

    High school level English consists of reading dull books and then writing character analyses and other crap about them. Unfortunately, at least in my experiences, being able to analyze characters and plots wasn't a skill that I gleaned by suffering through 1800's romance novels, it was a skill that I learned from writing fiction on my own. I started out very bad at writing, as most people do, because in all the time they spend forcing "classics" down your throat, they never teach you to write -- they just expect you to. (Sure, they teach you grammar and syntax and how to structure a paper, but they don't teach you a damn thing about how to write fiction, which is ironic since English classes focus on it so heavily.)

    Interestingly, if I went back and took those classes now (with a mind for the teacher as my audience) I'd be an A student, but not because of anything I learned in English classes.

  15. Re:Why not fewer students and more face-to-face ti by Omestes · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they had things that did that when I was in college, I probably would have spent most of my time trying to come up with syntactically correct nonsense.

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  16. Re:Infer the hidden meaning... by f()rK()_Bomb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've read them several times and that thought never crossed my mind.

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