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Wind Map of US Will Blow You Away

Hugh Pickens writes writes "Talk about visualizations. Ever wondered what the wind would look like if you could see it in action from above? A new project posted online by a pair of Google computer scientists, called simply Wind Map, has to be seen to be believed. "It can be quite hypnotizing to watch the gusty trails blast across the American continent, skitter over the Sierras, get roughed up by the Rockies, and whoosh over the great plains on its way to Canada," writes Chris Taylor. Wind Map is the brainchild of Fernanda Viégas and Martin Wattenberg, the co-leaders of Google's 'Big Picture' visualization research group in Cambridge, Mass. Wind patterns are constantly changing, of course, which is why the Wind Map designers have also given us a moving-image gallery of previous blustery days."

104 comments

  1. Just as I though by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    Big suction holes west of Dallas and Philadelphia.

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    1. Re:Just as I though by Cryacin · · Score: 1

      That and the windy city blows.

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  2. Proof positive by chill · · Score: 1, Funny

    Canada sucks. Heh. I always wondered what that little nub of Minnesota sticking into Canada was caused by.

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    1. Re:Proof positive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canada sucks. Heh. I always wondered what that little nub of Minnesota sticking into Canada was caused by.

      That's where Minnesotans extract their funny accent.

    2. Re:Proof positive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "blip on the top of Minnesota that was the result of treaties long ago".

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Angle

    3. Re:Proof positive by digitig · · Score: 1

      I think it's fascinating that all along the Minnesota-Ontario border there's a southerly wind at the moment, but at the eastern end it's blown down from Quebec, looped around Chicago and is on it's way back up; in the middle it's come up from Texas, and to the west it's come in from Montana. That must make for some marked shifts of weather within just a few miles, and yet locally the wind would seem to be coming from the same place.

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    4. Re:Proof positive by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Do note the warm front emanating from Washington, D.C.

    5. Re:Proof positive by akboss · · Score: 1

      Do note the warm front emanating from Washington, D.C.

      Warm front?? Currently the maps shows this HUGE sucking in from Columbus south. All being pulled into DC at the moment. As is normal when Congress is in session.

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  3. California by m0s3m8n · · Score: 1

    I always knew California blew.

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  4. Next step: Google Maps by slasho81 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd love to see a Wind overlay on Google Maps all over the world. Would be great for sailing. That's why we need open data.

    1. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Hadlock · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wind maps + 7 day forecasts of the world's oceans are widely avalible. When you're sailing you're looking at the big picture of what's causing the wind and where it's headed, so a fine detail tool like Google Maps is sort of a moot point. Wind maps only really make sense on a scale of 1000 miles or more.
       
        7 day wind forecast of the South Atlantic

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    2. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 4, Informative

      Have a look at Windfinder. Quite useful for planning your trips.

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    3. Re:Next step: Google Maps by CBravo · · Score: 1

      There is open data, I download it every day. Rasp operators use it for soaring forecasts: http://www.drjack.info/RASP/index.html. Rasp is a pot of glue: It downloads data, data is processed by WRF and visualized by NCL.

      The slight problem is that I need a fast dedicated core i7 machine for it (work in CUDA is in progress). It takes about an hour to do a forecast.

      Last problem: there is NO good installation and configuration method (all knowledge is shared though via a forum / wiki). You get there in the end, after a while and some extra.

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    4. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See also http://nowcoast.noaa.gov/

    5. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you can download grib files (updated 4 times a day) from NOAA. Just get a free grib reader from grib.us. These can be animated to show patterns all over the world.
      The thing is this project from hint.fm is an even better visualization tool. I'd love to see a world wide, selectable by area, version. This is a good start. Hope someboady runs with it.

    6. Re:Next step: Google Maps by rHBa · · Score: 1

      Not at all, if you're a glider pilot wind maps of 5-10km can be really useful. That's why we have blipmaps.

    7. Re:Next step: Google Maps by LoztInSpace · · Score: 1

      As a pilot you may already know of this: http://www.xcskies.com/ It's a forecast rather than observation.

    8. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wind maps + 7 day forecasts of the world's oceans are widely avalible. When you're sailing you're looking at the big picture of what's causing the wind and where it's headed, so a fine detail tool like Google Maps is sort of a moot point. Wind maps only really make sense on a scale of 1000 miles or more.

      LOL - ever sailed a regatta? The pros use detailed vector data (grib) forecasts to plan the fastest course for their boat. Free grib data is available e.g. here

    9. Re:Next step: Google Maps by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      You'd be shocked to hear my actual regatta resume. Generally a basic wind forecast is all we need to pick our sails (light, heavy) because local wind is so specific to the area, and most lakes are smaller than the data you can get. When wind is light, I've regularly seen the wind clock 180 degrees, then back again on a particular lake here in Dallas. Generally you're looking for fronts that will blow through, and if the front is going to come through during your regatta. Again, this requires looking at 1000 miles of data, as fronts are generally 200-300 miles wide at their smallest.

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  5. Freakin' awesome! by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is incredible technology. Wouldn't you love to have some checkboxes to turn on/off: state borders, topography, jet stream, hi/lo pressure systems, time display...

    1. Re:Freakin' awesome! by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is incredible technology. Wouldn't you love to have some checkboxes to turn on/off: state borders, topography, jet stream, hi/lo pressure systems, time display...

      Mountain ranges might be an interesting one, perhaps different wind layers as well

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    2. Re:Freakin' awesome! by buchner.johannes · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's why people have focussed on making very fast Javascript engines over the last couple of years -- to enable stuff like this.

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    3. Re:Freakin' awesome! by ScytheBlade1 · · Score: 1

      I'd also like to see large bodies of water. Right next to Salt Lake City is... the Great Salt Lake, and right there is a massive area where the wind just dies. It makes sense (moisture rising, disrupting the existing airflow), but seeing that defined would be awesome.

    4. Re:Freakin' awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> checkboxes to turn on/off: state borders, topography, jet stream, hi/lo pressure systems, time display...
       
      ...red state/blue state

    5. Re:Freakin' awesome! by CBravo · · Score: 1

      maybe not exactly what your are looking for (e.g. a limited area): http://map.weatherme.eu/ What do you think?

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    6. Re:Freakin' awesome! by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Wouldn't you love to have some checkboxes to turn on/off: state borders, topography, jet stream, hi/lo pressure
      > systems, time display... ...Zoom out...stop scrolling to the mouse pointer when no buttons zoom in.

      Why doesn't this work like google maps?

  6. Almost awesome by subreality · · Score: 1

    Very cool. If someone mashes it up with a topo map it'll be awesome.

  7. Hurricanes by sehryan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I am looking forward to checking out this map during hurricane season. This map is the number one thing I am going back to when a hurricane strikes land here in the US.

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    1. Re:Hurricanes by DriverDude · · Score: 1

      I'll use it for hurricanes also. This visualization is AWESOME. Excellent work. Thanks for the link - I'll be passing it around.

  8. What are they eating? by Eudial · · Score: 3, Funny

    What are they eating in San Jose to produce all that wind?! Seriously. Something is seriously wrong. Seek medical attention.

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    1. Re:What are they eating? by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

      That's what you thought of when you looked at the map??

      When I looked at it, I thought, "Eastern US looks like a hairy chest...Western US looks like a long haired woman.".

  9. Re:Yeah, but... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, stupid. It just averages out to a predictable level over the whole grid, effects minimal pollution and, well, just works. Greetings from Europe - with apologies to all decent people in the US, we kinda find it amusing to see you sliding back into your personal version of the dark ages.

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  10. Re:No thanks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Then click the second link which goes right to the map. -_-

  11. Training and Visualization by AtomicSnarl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a retired weather guy with over 25 years working with and training weathermen, this is one of the best tools I've seen. Applause!

    Understanding fluid flow and visualizing it is not easy, but it crucial to meteorology because that dynamic drives and reveals the mechanisms that create the weather systems we track, such as fronts, storms, and so on. Given the tools seen are usually something like this (from ADDS) or this (from CoolWx), the WindMap does a much more intuitive job of showing the strength and patterns in merging flow.

    So, well done! The only improvement I can think of for better use operationally would be an hourly looper of, say, the past six hours with a 3-4 second pause for each hour. This would let you track specific features as the day goes on.

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    1. Re:Training and Visualization by siride · · Score: 1

      The Unisys site has had a wind streamlines map for ages: http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_con.php?image=st&inv=0&t=cur&expanddiv=hide_bar

      vortex.plymouth.edu lets you make maps with streamlines as well.

      Granted, none of these are animated, but the point is that streamlines are hardly new in the online weather visualization field.

    2. Re:Training and Visualization by SumterLiving · · Score: 1

      Yep, and 30,000 years ago there were people telling stories by drawing on cave walls. Today those cave wall drawing are animated to such a point that people pay $10 to watch them. My point is graphic novels and movies have been around for a long time so why get excited?

    3. Re:Training and Visualization by fhage · · Score: 1
      Intuitive feel is not really worth much. The ADDS plot shows wind direction, speed to the nearest 2.5kts, gust speeds, pressure, temperature, and local flight rules. Quantitative things a pilot needs to know. Watch the nice animation, but learn to read the plot symbols.

      [rant]As one of the originators of the ADDS web site, and someone with 25+ years writing scientific data visualisation software, I can report that most meteorologists and forecasters are disinterested in this type of presentation. I produced a display which could produce these types of wind plots for NCAR in the early '90s and I never saw anyone but software people look at them. I thought it looked great, but I was mocked for suggesting it might be useful. My tool provides maps overlays, topography, and multi parametric, false colour and contour plots, with all the fancy animation controls. One can select arbitrary multi way-point cross sections of the volumetric data to visualise the atmosphere along a flight path or interesting weather features. Most meteorologists look at a few, low resolution, static 500mb and surface plots from several models, a sounding or two and make their forecast. No fancy tools needed, only plots produced on the supercomputer. In my experience, it was mainly people responsible for producing live watches and warnings or weather enthusiasts that made use of new, modern visualisation tools. It was a joy to produce something for people (GA pilots) who actually appreciated the effort and creativity we put into the site. We got awards (plaques and a tiny cash bonus) and lots of attention for ADDS, but I was still laid off a few years later after 18+ years of service with NCAR. [/rant]

    4. Re:Training and Visualization by CBravo · · Score: 1

      Not that they are the first to figure this out: http://ccom.unh.edu/vislab/projects/2d_flow_vis.html

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  12. Google Tax? by popo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh... I thought the East-coast was a visualization of tax-dollars.

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  13. Maybe if it was accurate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The map shows a west wind over Boston. But anyone can look at the current radar, and see it's an East wind. Looks useless so far.

    1. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by bobbutts · · Score: 3, Informative

      This seems to visualize surface winds. Radar (precipitation aloft) is moved by winds higher in the atmosphere. There's often a disconnect in the direction of surface and elevated winds. Check out a Skew-T Sounding and you can see the larger vertical wind profile.

    2. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, it shows the wind in my area constantly blowing southwest when in fact it almost always blows (and usually quite heavily) northeast

    3. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am looking at my anemometer. It is 30 feet off the ground - that's surface wind.

      Sure would like to know why my comment was modded to zero. Windmap fanbois?

      Are you here looking at my instruments? No. You aren't.

      The map is wrong.

    4. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by digitig · · Score: 1

      At the moment it's showing an easterly wind over Boston, not a westerly. You do know that wind directions are named for the direction the wind is coming from, not the direction it's going to, don't you?

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    5. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by digitig · · Score: 1

      I am looking at my anemometer. It is 30 feet off the ground - that's surface wind.

      Sure would like to know why my comment was modded to zero. Windmap fanbois?

      Are you here looking at my instruments? No. You aren't.

      The map is wrong.

      You posted as anonymous coward, which always starts out with a moderation of 0. No, we're not looking at your instruments. Are you looking at the same windmap?

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    6. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by digitig · · Score: 1

      Looking at a weather page for Boston it agrees with the windmap. Are you sure you know which way a westerly wind blows?

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    7. Re:Maybe if it was accurate... by element-o.p. · · Score: 2

      At 30 feet off the ground, your anemometer is measuring a very localized wind direction, which, depending upon terrain, vegetation, etc., can be very different from your neighbor's wind direction 100 yards away. I have stood in my yard during wind storms and watched the trees on either side of my house blowing in different directions, due to wind being funneled in ravines near my house.

      They didn't say in the wind map page (of if they did, I didn't see it), but I suspect they are taking an average wind speed and direction from a number of points. YMMV.

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  14. Re:firefox is now bloatware by slider2800 · · Score: 1

    Ahem... Firefox 11.0 here and it works like a charm, thankyouverymuch.

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  15. Have a look at their other projects (NSFW) by nbritton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you think that's interesting, check out their other project http://hint.fm/projects/touch/ (description) and http://www.fleshmap.com/touch/index.html (direct link) on their site as well. Please note both links are NSFW.

    Slashdotters are like lab mice that always seek out cocaine, but instead of cocaine, they're focused on little fluffy clouds.

    1. Re:Have a look at their other projects (NSFW) by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Man, that's obvious. Guys like to get touched in one place. Hint: Foot massages are out.

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  16. Google Earth by MDMurphy · · Score: 2

    I was thinking I'd love to see it as a layer in Google Earth, being able to see the wind flowing over and around the topography would be very interesting. I see a few null areas with little wind showing so I plan to check them out in GE to see if some local hills or mountains that I don't remember are creating them.

    1. Re:Google Earth by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

      I checked the one weird calm spot in Idaho southeast of Boise. It is a low area surrounded by hills, with a lot of irrigated fields. Now i'm trying to figure out how that causes a still spot in the wind. Something to do with extra humidity from the irrigation making the air in the low area denser and causing a bubble perhaps?

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    2. Re:Google Earth by rHBa · · Score: 2

      Depends on the albedo value of the farm land, freshly ploughed fields are usually great for thermal development though. The darker the surface the more heat it absorbs.

      However, damp soil releases its heat much more slowly and won't be so good for strong thermals although they might last a little longer into the evening.

  17. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, another "superior" European. Meanwhile, in the real world, the US ranks #1 in wind power generation, #1 in biomass generation, and #2 in solar generation in the world.

  18. Re:firefox is now bloatware by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Firefox 12b3 here, no problems.

  19. Re:Yeah, but... by beaviz · · Score: 2

    Ah, another "superior" European. Meanwhile, in the real world, the US ranks #1 in wind power generation, #1 in biomass generation, and #2 in solar generation in the world.

    Per what?

  20. Art more intelligent than tech by nightcats · · Score: 0

    Big deal -- Van Gogh saw this stuff with his ordinary human equipment and then painted it. This tech stuff is merely pale imitation of what that superior intelligence saw and recorded to canvas long ago.

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    1. Re:Art more intelligent than tech by sayfawa · · Score: 1

      If you haven't seen it already, you might be interested in this:
      Interactive Starry Night

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  21. Jet Stream and other altitudes? by nefus · · Score: 1

    Looks cool but what altitude is this? Do they have a map for different altitudes? What layer has the jet stream?

    1. Re:Jet Stream and other altitudes? by element-o.p. · · Score: 1

      It's a little hard to find, but they mention it is surface level winds on the map.

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  22. Quantity, but what about quality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's neat to see average winds on a visual like this. But because of gusts and such, it's possible to have high averages in locations where if you were to look at the windspeed profile over the course of the day - it would be of very limited use. (Lots of wind at certain times of day, but going flat otherwise.) Other areas that have seemingly low winds (around 10-15 MPH or so) would actually be a lot better for power extraction because it's nearly constant over the course of a day.

    It would be neat if they could have extra overlays that would allow one to compare how variable the winds are in comparison to the average speed. Such data would also be more useful when it comes to showing where use of wind power would be most effective.

  23. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Excuse my neighbor, he's been brainwashed into thinking dedication and loyalty to the U.S. is a really really good thing. Logic eludes him.

  24. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's called usatosisitis. you have it too. the blanket keeps you warm.

  25. Next: Winds at higher altitudes by RNLockwood · · Score: 1

    I assume that the winds are "surface" winds. It would be interesting to see the wind field at higher altitudes, too. AFAIK a surface low pressure area will have winds blowing into it and above it will be a high altitude high pressure with winds blowing out of it. At least that's how it's been explained to me.

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  26. Re:Yeah, but... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Ah, another "superior" European. Meanwhile, in the real world, the US ranks #1 in wind power generation, #1 in biomass generation, and #2 in solar generation in the world.

    Per what?

    Per Library of Congress, what else?

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  27. Re:firefox is now bloatware by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    Wait, you're saying that a Google-made page works best in a Google-made browser?

    Will the days of IE-only web pages return, only with IE replaced by Chrome?

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  28. Title humor... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    The joke in the title blows.

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  29. Pun alert by Apothem · · Score: 0

    This wind map really swept up my interest. It's really cool to see wind wind up on a map like this. I wonder if this will end up getting jet streamed over to an app of some kind? It would be quite the windward sight.

  30. Re:Yeah, but... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Actually, even your useless metric of comparing a country the size of the US to much smaller European states is wrong. Germany beats the pants off of the US in solar generation as does Italy, wind power per square mile or per capita is pityful compared to the rest of the world, and biomass statistics include wood burning, which can be a very bad idea.

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  31. Re:Yeah, but... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 0

    The relevant metrics here are based in the fact that my hometown with over a million inhabitants will be off fossil fuels by 2025. The conversion is going as planned and I have yet to see the blackouts the conservatard FUD-mongers are predicting. Salutations from the 3rd millenium, friend! ;)

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  32. Linux beard? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    This is what it looks like when you don't trim your beard.

  33. Alergies by lahvak · · Score: 2

    Forget sailing. It looks like it could be a great tool for figuring out movement of allergens such as pollen through the air, for studying allergy outbreaks.

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  34. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Per what?

    Per your mother.

  35. Eastern Oregon here I come! by F34nor · · Score: 1

    What I want is to get a law passed that you can put your solar panels up anywhere in state and get paid back in terms of tax credits and local rates as if they were on your house. The idea of putting panels up west of the Cascades seems insane to me. There are transmission lines that pass through the SE of Oregon, the highest solar index and now I see the highest wind speed.

    But it is all bullshit compared to the jet stream. Check out http://www.skywindpower.com/ww/index.htm The only problem with it is that it totally fucking awesome so no one will use it.

  36. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wind Map of US Will Blow You Away

    That's what she said.

  37. Bluzugh by Cazekiel · · Score: 1

    I caught this the other night after taking my Ambien. Ohhh...

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  38. Re:Yeah, but... by echusarcana · · Score: 1

    This is Europe where countries like Germany are shutting down your carbon free nuclear and letting your less fluent neighbors burn coal on your behalf? Hypocrites.

  39. Re:Yeah, but... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    Greetings from Europe - with apologies to all decent people in the US, we kinda find it amusing to see you sliding back into your personal version of the dark ages.

    You mean, like in Germany where they are saying goodbye to nuclear and cutting solar power subsidies?

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  40. Re:Yeah, but... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, cutting solar subsidies, because it is becoming self-sustaining by now and cutting nuclear because it was never sustainable without unloading a shitload of externalities on everyone. We did not like that, and, unlike some other western nations, we have a functioning democracy.

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  41. Re:Yeah, but... by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

    As someone who lives in the US near some of the HUGE wind farms that have been installed over the past 10 years, i have to point out that the reason we don't use more wind is because we are STILL not ready for it. These massive wind farms are situated in ideal locations, and yet, they sit there, standing still. Why? because the grid is just not capable of handling the load that these huge farms produce. We can make loads of electricity, we just have not built up the infrastructure to get that electricity to where we need it. And of course, part of that is because 'wah wah wah big oil subsidy takes the money' and whatnot, and part of it is because these things take time when the distances you have to cover are larger than most European countries.

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  42. ...animation speed scaled to map size/zoom? by swb · · Score: 1

    I'd also like to see the animation speed scaled or scalable to match the map scale/zoom level.

    It sure looks cool, but the animation speed is misleading relative to the actual wind speed.

  43. Re:Yeah, but... by Mindcontrolled · · Score: 1

    Yes, I am aware of that problem. I was a bit snarky up there, I do wonder, though, why no one can get his shit together to invest in infrastructure anymore.

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  44. Re:Yeah, but... by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    So now instead of nuclear, Germany's switched to coal and buying electricity from France, and you've got a promise to switch to renewable long after the politicians who made that promise will be out of office. Sounds like a real functioning democracy to me.

    Keep throwing those insults, though.

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  45. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suddenly comparing statistics based on country sizes is useless, but for every broadband article the "superior" Europeans claim it doesn't matter. The US is #1 in the total amount of renewable energy production in the world. Sorry those are the facts.

  46. Re:Yeah, but... by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 1

    Because, dear AC, bandwidth is measured at the house, not in total capacity. Therefore, the bandwidth per square mile is a completely useless statistic. And even then, the US fails.

    At least compare the US to the EU, which has a comparable size and population. But since that doesn't work in your favor, you ignore it. You do realize that reality doesn't care about your mental gymnastics, right?

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  47. Re:Yeah, but... by Jarik+C-Bol · · Score: 1

    i suppose because despite its national scope, literally hundreds of companies all have to get their shit together, at approximately the same time, all with enough budget to upgrade/replace *their* portion of the grid. And we all know how good humans are at working together when money is involved.

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  48. Canada sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We all knew Canada sucked, but now we know exactly where and how much.

  49. Re:Yeah, but... by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    In every broadband article, "superior Europeans" (and non-brainwashed Americans) suggest taking a particular metropolitan area of US that is similar in size and population density to some European country - say, Los Angeles or New York - and comparing that. And such comparisons always result in US still lagging behind.

  50. Do you know why Kansas is so windy? by iamzack · · Score: 1

    Because Oklahoma sucks and Nebraska blows. NyuckNyuckNyuckNyuckNyuck

  51. April fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move along anonymous cowards

  52. Proof that Chicago sucks... by ColdBoot · · Score: 1

    what more needs to be said?

  53. Denver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's NE of Denver, that makes winds turn so abruptly in a "perfect" small circle?

  54. Wind map by phalcon352 · · Score: 0

    Ever since Conan bought Mashup You just can't trust ANYTHING any more (Happy April fool's day)

  55. Re:Yeah, but... by ToddInSF · · Score: 1

    A North American city is NOT a European nation.

    Comparing these two disparate things is, in itself, an exercise in foregone conclusion and outright deception.

    But it it makes you feel superior, who am I to argue with your lack of reasoning ability and your thinly veiled faux pan-nationalism.

  56. The comparison works by ToddInSF · · Score: 1

    For Europeans that like to *feel* superior.