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EA Defends Itself Against Thousands of Anti-Gay Letters

donniebaseball23 writes "Video game publisher Electronic Arts has not only had to defend itself against 'worst company in America' labels, but GamesIndustry International has revealed that EA's been receiving thousands of letters protesting the inclusion of same-sex relationship content in games like Mass Effect and Star Wars: The Old Republic. The campaign against EA appears to be led by Florida Family Association and the Family Research Council. The letters threaten to boycott purchase of EA games if the company won't remove the LGBT content, and many allege that EA was pressured by LGBT activists to include the content, which they say is forcing LGBT themes on children playing the games. 'This isn't about protecting children, it's about political harassment,' said Jeff Brown, VP of corporate communications."

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  1. Well I say by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soddom

    1. Re:Well I say by nschubach · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I can't help but to side with EA on this... if they want to boycott, fine.

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    2. Re:Well I say by hpa · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Streisand effect" anyone?

    3. Re:Well I say by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It might actually be even stranger than the normal Streisand-related backfiring; there's a theory floating around that EA are actually deliberately exploiting the increased publicity of this to divert attention away from the fact that they're an utter bunch of assholes in many other ways. No idea whether it's true or not, but seemed worth mentioning.

    4. Re:Well I say by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

      It might actually be even stranger than the normal Streisand-related backfiring; there's a theory floating around that EA are actually deliberately exploiting the increased publicity of this to divert attention away from the fact that they're an utter bunch of assholes in many other ways. No idea whether it's true or not, but seemed worth mentioning.

      yes its true, they are an utter bunch of assholes in many other ways.

    5. Re:Well I say by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For the most part the "Gay Agenda" is just to be treated like a normal citizen. Usually when people who have exposure to LGBT people realize this. And that they are not some evil group of people trying to stop us "Heteros" doing what we feel is natural to us. Actually by making them outcasts in society you force them to go to locations and socialize with people that are less desirable.
      We Don't want you in our church. So they won't go to your church. Not going to church they will not be exposed to the other values that you find good.
      Being exposed to a diverse set of people is usually a good thing, you are not shocked at everything that goes on. And the fact that you lived in backwater area with no exposure to your people won't change their ways just because you think it is wrong.

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    6. Re:Well I say by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I always preferred 'The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy, no more, no less'. Still EA is a huge organization, and it is possible to deride them for some things while giving them props for others.

    7. Re:Well I say by DesScorp · · Score: 5, Informative

      This.

      That always confounded me - why on earth would an earnest religious person turn away someone from their church, just because they were a sinner? Aren't non-christians the people you -want- to come to church? Afterall, Christ did lunch with sinners, and preached love and compassion. It's become clear to me that many christians (but not all) are not interested in saving souls, but only about their social club that lets them feel superior to people who are not Them - the other, the different, the outsider. It used to be the jews and gypsies until it became unpopular to ostracise them - now it's the gays and muslims.

      That is simply not true. Most churches are open to anyone, and saving souls is task Numero Uno. That doesn't mean that they have to accept conduct, though, which is clearly condemned in the Bible. The idea is to be saved. Part of being saved is "changing your ways", as the Bible teaches. What some people are demanding, however, is that the churches should change for them, accepting things that the Bible teaches against. They want to have their cake and eat it too. Christ taught that salvation was a free gift to anyone that wanted it, but you had to accept it on his terms, not yours.

      If someone can't accept that, then so be it. Go about your life elsewhere. But don't demand that churches abandon their teachings and laws to make you feel comfortable. That's not the way it works.

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    8. Re:Well I say by Grishnakh · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, thanks to the Streisand Effect, this bunch of assholes at EA are going to profit handsomely because another bunch of prudish, backwards religious assholes are making a big deal out of this silly issue.

      Personally, I'm rooting for the assholes at EA. I'm really sick and tired of the religious nuts around here.

      (Note that not all religious people are bigoted nuts like these morons; there's a bunch of Christian churches these days which openly state that LGBT people are welcome, generally the Lutherans, Presbyterians, and Episcopals.)

    9. Re:Well I say by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      But truth be told many more women are open to being or have been bi than men.

      Well, it is different for men and women. Women can experiment, they can dabble, hell, its often been said that most women are only 1 strawberry daquiri away from kissing another chick.

      Women, can experiment, and still be considered on the home team.

      Men? Nope....you suck one cock...and your gay.

      Plain and simple.

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  2. Ugh by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are these bastards really going to make me side with EA on something? I need a shower.

    1. Re:Ugh by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't think of it as siding with EA.
      Think of it as siding with your neighbors, your friends, your co-workers, and your family members.

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    2. Re:Ugh by Ironix · · Score: 5, Funny

      Want some company?

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    3. Re:Ugh by JosephTX · · Score: 5, Funny

      I live in Texas. My neighbors, co-workers, and family members are more likely the ones I shouldn't be siding with.

  3. I for one by maroberts · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am, in the interests of balance, going to boycott EA games unless they have more lesbian content.

    It's only fair after all.

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  4. Re:Anti-Gay? by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So: Being gay is wrong. Gays can't be open about their sexuality. Gays don't get the same rights as heterosexuals.

    So yes, that absolutely does make you anti-gay.

  5. Re:Anti-Gay? by firex726 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except it's not being promoted aside from how the public has taken it upon itself to run with it.
    You don;t have to pursue the homosexual options in the game, they are optional.

    *On a more personal note, if you against gays having the same rights (marriage) as straights, you kind of are by definition anti-gay.
    "I'm not a misogynistic I just think woman should be kept in the kitchen."
    "I'm not racist I just think blacks should have stayed on the plantations."

    If it was strictly a matter of theology I would agree it should be up to the church, but so long as the insurance companies cannot insure a domestic partner, nor the government grant tax benefits to domestic partners, nor hospitals allow visitation to domestic partners; then it is a federal mater and the church should have zero say.

  6. Re:Anti-Gay? by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe homosexual acts are a sin. I believe homosexuality should not be promoted. I oppose gay marriage.

    Does this make me anti-gay? No way. Hate the sin and love the sinner. We are all children of God.

    By denying gay people respect and what they want - yes you are anti-gay
     
    BTW being gay is natural. If not then why did God create all those gay animals? See Biological Exuberance:Homosexuality and Natural Diversity which lists the gay and bisexual nature of over 300 species as seen in the wild.

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  7. Yoda says.... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ....Crossing light sabers, forbidden it is...!!

    :)

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    1. Re:Yoda says.... by aamcf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      is there some sort of middle ground? I mean, if someone wants their game character to be in a same sex relationship that's fine, it's their game, but if it's part of the story line that is exposing me to things I really don't wanna see.... i don't think that is ok, and the game should make that clear before purchase.

      Do you object to characters having opposite-sex relationships too? It seems to me that you should either allow both same-sex and opposite sex relationships, or ban both.

      If you "don't wanna see" same-sex relationships in games because you don't want to see them anywhere, then tough. We are people too you know, and I'm not going to pretend my husband is a platonic friend just because you don't feel comfortable seeing two people who love each other.

    2. Re:Yoda says.... by aamcf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Relationships are not about reproduction. They are about love, companionship, mutual support, sex, and so on. Those things don't require the couple to be opposite-sex.

      Many religions do consider it a sin to be gay, but they usually consider belonging to other religions (or none) to be sinful too. That hasn't stopped religious diversity becoming mainstream in many many places.

    3. Re:Yoda says.... by SpryGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Heterosexuals force their sexual preference on everyone all the time. They have pictures of their partners on their desks, they hold hands in the street, they kiss in greeting or parting, they flaunt their relationships via wedding bands for all to see, you see their relationships and even graphic sexual portrayals of them from every book, magazine, TV show, movie, billboard, ad, etc.

      Basically you're saying you're SHOCKED that acknowledging that gay people exist and should have the same rights to live and love and be visible as anyone else isn't a bad thing. You think that respect only goes one way, apparently.

      Perhaps you might ponder seeing things from other people's perspectives, or walk a mile in other people's shoes. The Closet is not a healthy place, and you have no fundamental right to have everyone conspire to keep you ignorant of the existence of people different than you.

      Existing is not "forcing their sexual preference on others". We're not talking about RAPE here. We're talking about human beings simply existing in life, like anyone else, with the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else... and not having to jump through hoops to hide in order to avoid offending your delicate and ridiculous sensibilities.

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  8. Haters gonna hate by benjfowler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Far too many religious people define themselves by what they hate, and measure their own worth by how much hatred they can stir up.

    Personally, I'd like to see all these hateful "Family" outfits treated the same way as other hate mongers that are currently dealt with harshly by law, like neo-Nazis and Islamists.

  9. Re:Anti-Gay? by thermostat42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I believe homosexual acts are a sin.

    Fine. Many people believe eating bacon is a sin.

    I believe homosexuality should not be promoted.

    Fine. I don't think boxing should be promoted. Doesn't seem to stop them.

    I oppose gay marriage.

    Here is where it is not-so fine. If you are actively trying to suppress two consensual adults from entering into a mutually beneficial contract because of their gender, you are anti-gay. Maybe you're ok with civil unions; that makes you less anti-gay and just deluded in believing that separate-but-equal will work this time.

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  10. Re:Anti-Gay? by Kenja · · Score: 5, Informative

    Your bible does not say homosexuality is a sin. It just says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." I interpret that to be an endorsement of anal sex or cunnilingus. You cant lie with a man as you would with a woman, the holes dont line up. And of course that same section of the book says you are going to hell for eating shell fish, for wearing linen and cotton at the same time and for not stoning to death a disobedient daughter.

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  11. Eliminating privileges of marriage be better? by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would eliminating privileges of marriage be better?

    Well, it would be fairer.

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  12. "It's OK to be Takei" by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    George Takei has offered up his name as an alternative to gay, so you can support Takei Marrage instead.

  13. Don't buy the EA propaganda by SoTerrified · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have it on good authority (No, I can't reveal my source) that this is EA responding to being voted the worst company of 2012 by Consumerist.com. The higher-ups are worried about the bad press right before the stock holders meeting, so they are deliberately trying to spin the negative press as being tied to their support of LGBT. However it's pretty obvious that the voters at the Consumerist were much more focused on EA's price gouging and charging extra for downloadable content just to get the basic content, anti-competitive measures and a host of other issues.

    So when you hear EA saying "They hate us because we're taking a stand for human rights", you know the truth is "They hate you because you mercilessly squeeze every dollar out of your customers, you provide horrid customer service and because you deliberately hold back game content as DLC, making the customers feel like they're being blackmailed instead of being consumers."

  14. Re:Anti-Gay? by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    citing nature's activities as defense of homosexuality is entirely illogical.

    I disagree. A lot of anti-gay stance is based round the concept that being gay is a choice and not a fundamental attribute. By showing that animals are gay as well means (among other things) that either God has given animals the ability to choose to be gay or not, or that being gay is natural.

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  15. Re:Anti-Gay? by An+Ominous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is such semantic nonsense. Heterosexuals have the right to marry the person they romantically love. Homosexuals do not have that right in most of the United States.

  16. Re:Anti-Gay? by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real problem is that the word "marriage" has a religious meaning. I propose we remove the word from all federal, state, and local laws and documents, replacing it with civil unions (with rights and responsibilities identical to those currently attributed to marriage). All current marriages are automatically converted over to the (functionally identical) civil unions and any couple of legal age and standing (neither member already part of a civil union) may fill out the paper work and be legally joined. Leave the word marriage to mean "joined by a church"; which, of course, any couple, gay or straight, could also have performed as part of forming their civil union.

    There, everyone has their religious freedoms, everyone has identical rights, everyone is happy right? Oh wait no, the religious wackos (and no, I don't mean that to be everyone who is religious is wacko) will throw an ever loving hissy fit, yelling at the top of their lungs that "the gays won" and "you're destroying marriage!".

  17. Re:So, why don't they... by pnewhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, then we can have switches for everything. It can default to all white male, then switches to add female, black, gay, atheist, muslim, disabled whatever. That way the people who live with their heads up their ass can pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist.

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  18. Sounds like an EA PR story ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are these bastards really going to make me side with EA on something? I need a shower.

    Just think of it as an EA PR story. Its not like ignoring thousands of letters is something new to them. Its just business as usual.

  19. Call them what they are: American Taliban. by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These same people rant and rave about Sharia Law coming to America, because they're worried it would move in on their turf.

  20. Re:So, protect you from *yourself*?? by CannonballHead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, remember that religious people are incapable of logical reasoning.

    As a "religious person," I feel entirely convinced you have logically come to this conclusion.

    My bad, religious people are unable to accept reality as well.

    As well as this. Well, this one makes sense, as long as you define reality as what you believe to be true; thus, anyone who thinks differently is denying reality.