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Data Safety In a Time of Natural Disasters

CowboyRobot writes "The National Weather Service has begun testing the way it labels natural disasters. It's hoping that the new warnings, which include words like 'catastrophic,' 'complete devastation likely,' and 'unsurvivable,' will make people more likely to take action to save their lives. But what about their digital lives? Recommendations include: Keep all electronics out of basements and off the floor; Unplug your hardware; Buy a surge protector; Enclose anything valuable in plastic. If the National Weather Service issued a 'complete devastation' warning today, would your data be ready?"

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  1. Clouds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cloud storage. Imagine how much data you can store in a hurricane!

    1. Re:Clouds by schizz69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Throw a few billion micro SD cards at it. I'm sure they will have great uptime.

    2. Re:Clouds by unixisc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, this is one of the few advantages of having things in the cloud. I'd assume that the storage is all distributed and mirrored.

    3. Re:Clouds by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The advantage of the cloud is that it lets you make assumptions that won't be tested until you are unable to restore your backups? Actually, that sounds about right...

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    4. Re:Clouds by hawkinspeter · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wouldn't assume that unless you've specifically paid for it. Amazon will charge extra if you want to ensure that your data is replicated onto different continents.

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    5. Re:Clouds by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Damn right. I have all my critical data backed up to MegaUpload!

      (Only half meant to be funny)

    6. Re:Clouds by kaladorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The cloud is a good way to store things (encrypted by yourself before storage) but is only one part of a broader data security and integrity effort.

      Where I am, in an apartment, I'm immune to a flood (but not a burst waterpipe). I'm defended against surges of moderate scope by UPSes and surge suppressors. I have a reasonable degree of data replication to protect my data from hardware failures and I have limited off-site replication of data to protect me from catastrophic events like fire, serious water pipe issues, earthquake, etc.

      But these sorts of strategies have a cost-benefit issue; You pay for offiste storage generally and if you want to store tens or hundreds of gigs of data, that gets pricey.

      Offsite storage also puts your data into the hands of others. Even encrypted, you have to assess there is a degree of security risk in having your data store externally.

      Security and data protection has to be scaled to the need and you have to think about both the threats and the costs involved in any plan you choose.

      Still, it is nice there are more options now than there used to be and Amazon and other cloud storage options are handy.

      I have a buddy who has to travel to the US but with the later-day border issues, doesn't like to take a laptop. So he stores an encrypted version of his code repo in the cloud and just rents a laptop while in the US, unpacks his repo, does his thing, cleans and wipes the laptop, and returns it when he's headed home. That sort of capability avoids DHS taking a copy of his work. His concern isn't them reading it, so much as them having piss-poor data security of their own and not being able to know where it might end up.

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    7. Re:Clouds by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2

      Yes, I take a similar approach when I travel now, given the insanity at the airports, especially since TSA employees seem to take a liking to my Thinkpad (it gets pulled aside so they can paw through my laptop bag every damn time.) Probably it's because I have a few tools in it, I don't know. Anyway, all they'll ever see is fresh re-image of the OS with a few applications, and none of my work files. When I get where I'm going, I download whatever I need, and when I'm finished I upload any new files and then wipe the machine again. They're more than welcome to power up my computer or image the drive. They're not going to find anything I don't want them to find. That's mostly stuff that I do for work, source code and so forth, that I would be irresponsible to not take some steps to protect. Like you say, it's none of the government's business, and they have always maintained demonstrably poor security.

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  2. Mutual backup. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Encrypt your stuff, send to a friend elsewhere in the world. He can likewise encrypt his stuff and send to you. Doesn't even need any fancy cryptographic stuff - even the non-techies can set a password on a winrar archive, and winrar's crypto is sufficiently hard to break that the only way I've ever found is to brute-force the password - which still is very slow, due to the use of a multi-round hardened hash.

    1. Re:Mutual backup. by SpzToid · · Score: 2

      How about something more realistic like encfs and ssfhs, along with any cloud provider like Dropbox?
      http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=encfs+ssfhs+dropbox
      Or skip Dropbox because it costs a lot and host your own disks using SparkleShare, which is based on GIT, and all your GIT/rabbitshare experience with repos is applicable to their management, should you care to.
      http://sparkleshare.org/

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    2. Re:Mutual backup. by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      $10-20/month to Dropbox vs how many hours setting up SparkleShare, worrying about hosting it yourself, etc?

      Hell, if you're super cheap, buy space from Google and shove it all into Google Docs (yeah, theres an API). $5 for 20GB of storage or $20 for 80GB of storage (per YEAR).

    3. Re:Mutual backup. by SpzToid · · Score: 3, Informative

      I understand you might be TooMuchToDo for a reason, so let me show you how few lines are required to set up SparkleShare.

      ON THE SERVER:
      git init --bare EXAMPLE.git

      DO THISLOCALLY FROM Sparkleshare, attach to account:
      field 1:
      ssh://you@example.com:12345

      field 2: /home/you/EXAMPLE.git

      NOTES: 12345 = your random SSH port
      It helps to know a little about GIT and bash (terminal) commands.
      Tested using Ubuntu, I used terms like 'field 2' because I am too lazy to actually consult the SparkleShare GUI which looks a lot like dropbox and is just as easy to use in real-life. Some folks also have more data than they can afford using Dropbox, and multi-terrabyte disks are relatively cheap.
      Happy Saturday morning.

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    4. Re:Mutual backup. by loyukfai · · Score: 3, Informative

      Crashplan does this (backup to your friends/family members) automatically for free . Paid version include better encryption and/or backup to their "cloud".

      FWIW, the software is closed source though.

      Cheers.

  3. "Unsurvivable" weather warning? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If I am not going to survive, I won't be around to care if my data does or not.

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    1. Re:"Unsurvivable" weather warning? by rjames13 · · Score: 2

      You are not going to survive only if you stay. If you are smart and evacuate you might not have time to get your data out as well.

    2. Re:"Unsurvivable" weather warning? by vlm · · Score: 2

      Depends where you live and work. There are tornados where I live... My work and home are off axis enough and about 20 miles apart, its quite possible for one to be wiped off the face of the earth down to bare dirt while the other just has a rainy day.

      This doesn't help with some people living in hurricane land, or forest fire land... I've never lived in earthquake land but isn't 20 miles far enough to get you out of utter destruction region and into survivable region?

      I work about 3 miles from a port (sea-port kind of port not TCP). Container ship from Iran carrying a container marked couscous turns out to be 10 kilotons. Well that would be a bad day to be at work, although survivable. But at home, about 23 miles away, that is just a "eh".

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    3. Re:"Unsurvivable" weather warning? by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      Having been through a few of these, it is much better to think about your stuff. Think a lot about your stuff. Just do it well before the day of the hurricane.

  4. HDD Cage by Aereus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I had to physically escape with my data, it would take less than a minute. Pull off the side-panel to my case. Unplug my HDDs and pull the cage they're attached to. Toss that into a bag, or if time wasn't critical, look into safer solutions like anti-static bags or at least a freezer ziplock or something.

    Anything else in the system is easily replaceable in a disaster.

  5. This is an easy one. by zippo01 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.pelican-case.com/ If you break it they replace it. They are awesome and water proof cases. Just build you system inside, something happens, close the door. Done.

  6. Here's a thought... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... try not building your house in an area prone to hurricanes. Or, if you're going to do that, try not living in a house constructed along the same basic design as a plywood packing crate.

    Most of the houses in the US would simply not be passed as fit for human habitation in the UK, because of their shoddy thin-crappy-wood-over-thin-crappy-frame construction.

  7. Hysterical word choices by bbartlog · · Score: 2

    ''catastrophic,' 'complete devastation likely,' and 'unsurvivable,'" I think these words accurately describe the effect that their new, scary vocabulary choices will have on their credibility. Really, no matter how dramatic your warning is, some people are just going to think they can tough it out - has far more to do with the temperament of the person than with specific verbiage. Getting all hysterical might motivate a few more people in the short term, but long run it makes you look silly and might even lead otherwise sensible people to ignore your warnings.

  8. Re:This is a ridiculous story by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

    Not true. After Ike, most of the damaged computers I saw were from 3-6 inches of water. A few more were from small leaks, or blown wind. Plastic trash bags, and setting them on the desk would have saved almost all of them. Other than the one company that bagged all the computers and put them together on the same table in the middle of the room. The roof collapsed partially there, knocking them all off the table. :) Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug...