Slashdot Mirror


Ask Slashdot: My Company Wants Me To Astroturf, Should I?

An anonymous reader writes "Posting as AC for obvious reasons. The company I work for put an app in an app store. The marketing people think it isn't selling very well, so they sent out an email asking people to get on all their social media sites and friend or like the app to build up traffic. The thing is, most of the employees have not used the app, but we are being asked to say that we like it. We just saw stories about companies not being allowed to ask employees or interview candidates for access to social sites, but what does it mean when a company asks employees to astroturf? Will the marketing or HR people look at who has astroturfed, and who has not at raise time? How would you deal with this?"

14 of 391 comments (clear)

  1. Wow... by grub · · Score: 5, Funny

    Things are that bad at RIM and AppWorld, eh?
    Look, if Thorsten wants you to astroturf, he should at least offer some examples.

    --
    Trolling is a art,
    1. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Fuck off, Ballmer.

  2. Find another job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    liars are liars.

  3. when asked to commit propaganda by berashith · · Score: 5, Funny

    there is only one answer ...
    We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude

  4. Are you loyal? by pak9rabid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Putting the obvious moral issues aside, how loyal to this company are you? If the answer is "not very" then I think you already know what you should be doing (i.e, looking for another place of employment). If, however, you are a loyal employee, then suck it up & just do what they ask...finding a place to work that you actually enjoy is tough, especially in this economy.

    1. Re:Are you loyal? by pak9rabid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Additionally, you may want to check the app-store-in-question's contractual obligations, as I'm pretty sure stuff like astroturfing is against it. Just point out to whoever's in charge that what you're being asked to do violates their policies and could potentially result in your company's app being pulled off of their app store altogether.

    2. Re:Are you loyal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, I'd go for the 3rd option. Just don't do it. I'm regularly asked to plug some thing where I work, and I just don't unless I really like whatever it is. I've never been approached as "I saw you didn't post about X". Most of the time, there are so many people in the company that it doesn't matter... If they do ask, it's really none of their business. It's your social networking account, not a company one. I don't see why they should have any jurisdiction over it.

    3. Re:Are you loyal? by Obfuscant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just point out to whoever's in charge that what you're being asked to do violates their policies and could potentially result in your company's app being pulled off of their app store altogether.

      That really looks like you are making the threat to report the company to the app store.

    4. Re:Are you loyal? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People have to take responsbility for the decisions they take.

      But companies don't have to take responsibility for the decisions they make.

      To the poster:

      If your company thinks the solution to an app that sucks is to have you astroturf, it's probably not likely that the company is going to be around that long, unless they happen to own a whole lot of patents and can stay in business by suing competitors, in which case they probably aren't going to need your development skills, right?

      Simple advice: GTFO. Your word is all you've got. Once it gets out that you're an astroturfer (and it will) you're going to be wearing a scarlet "A" for "asswipe".

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
  5. Astroturfing in social media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a fellow anonymous, representing the big E and the A, we get it in our inboxes daily to astroturf our products.

    This seems to be a common practice nowadays, and I guess it shows you have some faith in your product. I have nothing against it as long as you like what you are doing. If you don't like astroturfing for your stuff, then don't.

    What concerns me though is that you seem to be not very keen on this app. Care to elaborate why?

  6. Not A Good Sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I worked at a company where we were actively told to astroturf. It was a bad sign because the product sucked and instead doing something about the criticism, they buried their head in the sand. The criticism was completely well founded. My advice is to not worry about astroturfing and start looking for a new job. Your management isn't looking to fix problems, just cover over them.

  7. Re:Nope by vlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't say that I would do it.

    The problem is the original poster, not the policy, at least so far. The original poster is an epic fail because:

    The thing is, most of the employees have not used the app

    You have to do that before you can decide what to do with:

    we are being asked to say that we like it.

    Note that you don't have to like the genre to say the product is best in class, or at least somewhat "like-able". Many years ago I was asked my opinion of an ethnic food product my former employer sold; I can't stand that kind of stuff, but I could honestly say my employers individual product was an excellent example of the genre. If I had to eat this junk in general, this is the one I'd eat. This is your out if the app is something like a female ovulation calendar app or kids educational app or whatever.

    I deleted my facebook account years ago, but the social norm at the time was some dude you sat next to in 8th grade once is a "friend" and anything vaguely novel is "like", so its not as if they're asking you to get a tattoo on your forehead or become a booth babe. The standard for "like" an app is probably "it didn't make my phone catch fire, so thats good enough".

    If its just too rancidly repulsive to appeal to you, or in your opinion, anyone, you need to run like hell and start emailing resumes because:
    1) They're obviously grasping at straws if its so awful they have to pay people $75K/yr (or whatever) to grudgingly admit they like it.
    2) After grasping at straws comes the layoffs, downsizing, bankruptcies, etc, next week. So get a jump to it.

    --
    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  8. Basic Office Skills by royallthefourth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When marketing (or most anyone else) sends an email to the entire company, ignore it. Duh.

  9. Re:Honesty by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Informative

    Twice, actually. Once it was actually my project being shilled (I liked the project and thought it was useful - though I did end up getting fired from there, I'll still gladly tout its benefits in the appropriate context), and once I hadn't bothered trying the product. The latter one sucked, and I told the other team exactly why, and how I thought it could be improved. I got called into a meeting with other employees who'd complained, and the project lead took notes while we ran through the demo showing what we didn't like. The project went back for another round of revisions, and eventually came out much better for it. I never talked about the project publicly, and didn't get fired, either.

    Dishonest ass-kissing will get you promoted, because you make bosses like you personally. Honest critiquing with respect for politics will get you respect, because you show that you're dedicated to the company goals.

    --
    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.