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Baboons Learn To Identify Words
thomst writes "Seth Borenstein of the AP reports on a story in the April 13 edition of Science (abstract here, full article paywalled) about a study of baboons at Aix-Marseille University in France that demonstrates the primates are capable of distinguishing between short, but real English words and gibberish letter combinations of similar length with an average of 75% accuracy over the course of 300,000 trials. One particularly talented subject named Dan, a 4-year-old baboon, is capable of 80% accuracy. The study's lead scientist, Jonathan Grainger, explains that a simple change in the study's methodology — allowing the subjects to work the training machine at times of their own choosing, rather than on a schedule determined by the researchers, made all the difference. When they are shown a sequence of letters, the subjects must choose between pushing a blue 'button' on a touchscreen (for a nonsense combination), or a green one (for an actual word). If they choose correctly, they get a food reward. Borenstein writes, 'The key is that these animals not only learned by trial and error which letter combinations were correct, but they also noticed which letters tend to go together to form real words, such as SH but not FX, said Grainger. So even when new words were sprung on them, they did a better job at figuring out which were real. Grainger said a pre-existing capacity in the brain may allow them to recognize patterns and objects, and perhaps that's how we humans also first learn to read.'"
As long as no one teaches them the term "Corporate Whore," I think we'd be better off than with what we've got.
Bobo no accept campaign contribution from Exxon. Bobo represent people.
What political party do you join when you don't like Bible-thumpers *or* hippies?
I was wondering why all those screens were set up.
I am very small, utmostly microscopic.
to get those baboons to edit /.
Set your phasers on "funky"!
The French were using english words?
If baboons can learn to recognize words is it ethical to use them in medical testing? Some retarded human beings can't do that much.
I wonder if this would work with other writing systems. Could they learn to tell real Chinese characters from random fake ones, for example?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
this is going to end with Charlton Heston on a beach cursing at the Statue of Liberty.
... welcome our new literate simian overlords.
"The study's lead scientist, Jonathan Grainger, explains that a simple change in the study's methodology — allowing the subjects to work the training machine at times of their own choosing, rather than on a schedule determined by the researchers, made all the difference."
What I take from this is that when I was in high school, I should have been able to get up at noon and go to school then if I wanted to. Guarantee I would have learned more in calculus than having it at 7:30am.
"The refs are calling too many penalties."
and observe how the leader of the horde stops being the strongest one and becomes the smartest one.
stop teaching useful skills to animals with big pointy teeth please
teach them to laugh at youtube or something
As much as I dislike politics, we should not refer to Republicans as "baboons";
it's just the way I roll...
"allowing the subjects to work the training machine at times of their own choosing, rather than on a schedule determined by the researchers, made all the difference."
This is directly applicable to humans as well, and probably deserves more research.
Grainger said a pre-existing capacity in the brain may allow them to recognize patterns and objects
That reminds me of a column I read a while ago suggesting exactly that, and offering an evolutionary basis for it, along with an explanation for conspiracy theories. I guess this means that literacy begets superstition?
You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
"Researchers make great strides in understanding the means by which these rather primitive humans use to communicate."
If Baboons can read and learn, there's hope yet for climate deniers, creationists and possibly even most of the Republican party.
I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
Someone get an infinite number of these word-recognizing baboons, and an infinite number of typewriters!
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Experience comes from bad judgment.
" ... perhaps that's how we humans also first learn to read."
We didn't learn how to write until much later.
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So basically baboons are worse at recognizing words than dogs and babies? Why is this news?
Pigs can do this too, if you believe farmers.
What this paper seems to say is that if you spend lots of money and time you can get baboons to do stuff that's marginally interesting.
First, I would want to start with animals of even higher (subjective, to me) intelligence -- crows, african grey parrots, octopui, squid, elephants, bees, maybe domestic dogs and cats -- and then perform similar experimentation with all forms of human language: gesture (sign) language, written language and especially spoken language. I would especially like to do a double-blinded study with safely-administered psychedelics. We already know that psychedelics have a large effect on the language center of the human mind, so it would be natural for a similar effect to be present upon other animals. Most of those animals already have proven to have communication mechanisms and tool-using capabilities that are non-trivial, and so I feel they already have a similar language capability to humans. Those could be even potentiated through the use of thought-enhancing drugs.
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The Commission for Shakespearean Literature thanks Aix-Marseille University for its contribution towards re-creating some of Shakespeare's lost works. We look forward to your effort in producing a line of typographical input devices, such as would be more ergonomically suitable for this work.
Please accept this anti-lice shampoo as a token of our gratitude.
That is all.
We should use this teaching method in the Palmetto State. I can imagine a day where our literacy rate is nearly as high as our unemployment rate!
Thats great news for the republican party. The pool of GOP candidates will now be less embarrasing.
She's at something like 5% accuracy. But what she reads to me is pretty damn funny.
"The ability to delude yourself may be an important survival tool" - Jane Wagner -
No, really! She could.
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
Can they learn sign language like Gorillas, and communicate with sentence structure to convey an understanding of more abstract concepts like the passage of time? It seems like that could be a possibility, since sentence structure is kind of an extrapolation of spelling.
Birds (mostly I'm thinking of parrots) are known to develop large vocabularies, and gain a sense of context to the noises they make, as an exchange of information regarding their own situational awareness. Understanding noises and even words, and discerning their meanings relative to context is a task that many animals are capable of. Beyond mere habituation through operant conditioning, we have seen Dolphins, Dogs, Pigs, Horses, Elephants and all the Great Apes perform similar tasks through vocalization. But literacy and text is a pretty interesting twist for baboons.
Mae'n dda nad oeddent yn defnyddio'r Gymraeg.
> Baboons Learn To Identify Words
Still Won't Read Words Before Voting On Them
Bada-bing!
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Words are made up of letters. Letters are specific shapes. So words are basically patterns of shapes. The baboons are able to identify specific patterns of shapes 75% of the time. That should come as no surprise, because in their natural environment, they must also be able to identify specific patterns of shapes to survive. Teaching them new patterns, while interesting, is just expanding on what they already do in nature.
It does not mean, however, they can distinguish one word from another, such as dog and cat, although I am sure they can be trained to do that. Nor does it mean that they can interpret the pattern d o g or the pattern c a t to mean a dog or a cat, although, again, I'm sure they can be trained to do that. The real question, as it relates to reading, is can they assimilate what they are seeing. If not, they aren't actually reading.
While driving a car and stopping because you see a big octagon shaped sign is not the same as reading the word "STOP" on it, even though both give the same desired outcome.
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Cause the strong will just stop exploiting he weak, acknowledging their intellectual superiority and bowing their own heads down in shame in the face of their own intellectual inadequacy.
Oh, no... Wait. They could also just take what they want by force. Being stronger and all that shit.
Lets just go ahead and send a cowboy into space.
Then we can get our "Get your hands off me you damn dirty ape"!
Oh wait. That's already happened.
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I guess you wouldn't need an infinite number of monkeys after all.
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I see you've met my wife.
If not us, who? If not now, when?
Perhaps there is hope for occupiers, people under 30 who were public school brain washed, Obama voters, people who whore global warming, basically any communist.
From TFA:
Even though the experiments were done in France, the researchers used English words because it is the language of science, Grainger said.
That is either a sarcastic pun, or the most ethnicist bullshit I've heard in decades.
She has 1000's of words down in "sign language" (and SPOKEN ENGLISH too)
Heck - they even gave her a pet kitten she named "ALL BALL"!
(She loved it - were I to guess her thinking? It's probably "ALL MY JOY/FUN" etc.-et al, because she plays with a ball there too iirc).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)
* Human people are SO arrogant @ times, & when I look around me the past few years now? We're the STUPID ones!
I've stated this MANY times online & in my life in fact: "DOGS ARE BETTER PEOPLE THAN PEOPLE!"
(Not that humanity's "all bad" - we're great too, but deceits & grubbing for money & power in a world of limited resources DEFINITELY brings out 'the worst' in us!)
APK
P.S.=> For instance? BOTH of my cats FULLY understand these phrases in less than 10 months of life:
1.) FOOD (& variations like Fish, Beef, Chicken, Dry Food (vs. "tasty food" in cans, lol - yes folks: "Discerning cats DO taste a difference!")
2.) SLEEP
3.) SHOW ME (this one's amazing - 1 of them, super-smart for a cat, will LITERALLY show me things she wants by walking to them, & "glaring" forcefully @ them)
4.) GOOD GIRLS
5.) OUTSIDE
6.) INSIDE
7.) WARM
8.) COLD
9.) SHITTY (meaning raining outside)
10.) "KITTY LOGS" (lol, for their poop in the litterbox)
& more...
And, they really DO understand them, & they're only cats... & they pick up on more each week! apk
Frogs are giving tests to baboons.
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If they can teach certain primates to use sign language, it means their brains are complex enough to learn a symbol based language, there is no absolutely no reason they cannot be taught to read written text.
Who says?
Why not be more critical and just consider this from Wikipedia:
"Clever Hans was a horse that was claimed to have been able to perform arithmetic and other intellectual tasks.
After a formal investigation in 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst demonstrated that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was watching the reaction of his human observers. Pfungst discovered this artifact in the research methodology, wherein the horse was responding directly to involuntary cues in the body language of the human trainer, who had the faculties to solve each problem. The trainer was entirely unaware that he was providing such cue."
When will they stop trying to make monkeys out of us!