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Technology Makes It Harder To Save Money

Hugh Pickens writes "LiveScience reports that a survey conducted for the American Institute of CPAs reveals that while more than half of U.S. adults believe technology has made it easier to spend money, just three percent think it has made it easier to save. The research found that Americans who subscribe to digital services spend an average of $166 each month for cable TV, home Internet access, mobile phone service and digital subscriptions, such as satellite radio and streaming video — the equivalent of 17 percent of their monthly rent or mortgage payment. Those who download songs, apps and other products spend an additional $38 per month. 'Our gadgets and connections can bring benefits like mobility and efficiency,' says Jordan Amin. 'But they can also bring financial challenges, like taking money that could go to savings, for instance, or contributing to credit card debt.' If facing a financial crunch, Americans would rather change what they eat than give up their cell phones, downloads or digital TV services. Asked to choose the one action they would most likely take in tight time, 41 percent said they would cut back on eating out, 20 percent said they would cut off cable TV, 8 percent said they would end cell phone service and 8 percent said they would stop downloading songs and digital products."

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  1. you can save a ton of $ by Presto+Vivace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    by giving up TV. With internet access and a mobile phone, you really don't need TV.

    1. Re:you can save a ton of $ by iPaul · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It depends on where you live. $200 a month is 2,400 a year. When it's 1-2% of your income, it probably doesn't matter. So, you do a little less saving. When it's more like 10%, then it's a problem because you greatly reduce your ability to save.

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    2. Re:you can save a ton of $ by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      Two bits = a quarter
      There are four quarters in a dollar
      2*4*15=120

      120 bits of bandwidth

    3. Re:you can save a ton of $ by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, technology isn't an impediment to saving, lack of discipline is the impediment to saving.

      Ex-fucking-actly. There could be hookers and coke for sale on every street corner I pass, but my own decisions will dictate whether I buy them or not.

      It's just like when people talk about certain colleges as party schools. YES, there is drinking in college. YES, most colleges do have bars near them. NO, no one is going to pour it down your throat. Make good choices, and that 'party school' just becomes 'school'. Make good choices, and 'technology makes it harder to save' becomes 'hey, look, my savings account isn't empty because I'm not an idiot.'

    4. Re:you can save a ton of $ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Where I'm from, giving up the basic cable package ($60 a month) is not a "ton" of $.

      Sure it is. Just figure it all in pennies. $60 a month = 6,000 pennies. 1 US penny is 2.5 grams. 6,000 pennies is 150,000 grams. That is approximately 330 lbs. In approximately 6 months you save 1 US ton (short ton) of money. How is that not a ton?

    5. Re:you can save a ton of $ by drawfour · · Score: 4, Informative

      Your math is off a bit. 6000 pennies is 15,000 grams, not 150,000 grams. So your 330 pounds is more like 33 pounds, which means that it takes around 60 months, or five years to save a "ton" of money.

    6. Re:you can save a ton of $ by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So $24,000 a decade not counting the interest/dividends it could have been earning? Doesn't sound like chump change to me.

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    7. Re:you can save a ton of $ by WastedMeat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, it sounds a lot like the cost of a college education after about 18 years. I guess people have their priorities though.

  2. america by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    where a $200 cellphone with a multi-year contract of indentured servitude and mandatory upgrades is an essential item
    but a meal that costs over $7 and doesnt come with a free cola is a sure sign of the imminent collapse of western civilization at the hands of a communist marxist kenyan muslim.

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    1. Re:america by Ferzerp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the point is that everyone recognizes that there are cheaper alternatives to eating out all the time. You can eat out for $20/meal (not talking fast food), and it's really, really convenient. Do that 3 times a week (or more), and you're spending at least $240/month eating out.

      We recognize that the benefit from that $240 (12 meals that we could make for maybe $40 ourselves, but it would be less convenient) is much, much less than the entertainment value of cable, or internet.

      I can always make my own meals by buying ingredients and save a huge amount of money (I eat out a lot), but I can't make my own cable service or cell phone service.

      It isn't trading food when the subject is eating out. It's trading convenience. You still eat... you just have to prepare it yourself.

  3. Bundles and termination fees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "41 percent said they would cut back on eating out, 20 percent said they would cut off cable TV, 8 percent said they would end cell phone service and 8 percent said they would stop downloading songs and digital products."
    If I cut my TV service my phone bill goes up, if I cut my phone my TV bill goes up. If I cut either I have to pay a fee to terminate the contract. Of course I'm going to cut back on eating out.

  4. ...not quite it... by raydobbs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People are willing to change what they eat because their cell phones plans have steep early termination fees if you drop your level of service - same with your digital television or broadband connection. Temporarily changing your dietary desires is much more simple - not a sign of technology addiction, more a sign of service charge and penalty avoidance.

    1. Re:...not quite it... by zero0ne · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cutting out a single night out at a restaurant will almost always end up covering the cost of that month's cell phone bill.

    2. Re:...not quite it... by wmbetts · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you have kids you either spend $25 to $50 for a babysitter, gas at over $4 a gallon, and the price of the meal. If you don't use a babysitter you then pay the same or more for the food your kids will eat. I can't goto a movie for under $70 any more. I'm not complaining about it, because it's just a fact of life. I wanted to have a wife and kids and I knew that it would be costly. I'd rather spend the money on cable tv and internet as our primary forms of entertainment. Sure, it sounds expensive when you hear $200 a month for the cable and internet bill, but in reality it's the cheaper form of entertainment for a family. I also have 2 WoW accounts (currently the only game we play) for my wife and myself. Raiding together or pvping in a bg or arena to us is a lot more fun than going out all the time. It's also a lot cheaper and gives us something we can always do together as a couple.

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  5. Change what you eat? by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good. Humans don't need meat every day anyway.

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    1. Re:Change what you eat? by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And all water is risky, and all vegetables are risky, and all air is risky...

      You can find a study that will make any point you want. There are undeniable ecological benefits in only eating things produced near where you live. For much of the world, that includes "unhealthy" carbohydratey potatoes, and "unhealthy" proteiny red meat. It's a bit of a bummer, but it still makes more sense than shipping soya beans half-way round the world only to throw most of them out processing them into something humans can just about digest.

  6. No big secrets here by husker_man · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Big thing is to first know where you are spending money, and then categorize your expenses into what is a can't-do without, must have, nice to have, and frivolous buckets. You need to put about 10% of your income into a long-term retirement fund, and have (ideally) six months of living expenses in a money-market or savings account (Must have). You need to put a certain amount of money aside each month for certain necessities (housing, required food, loan payments) (can't do without (unless you're living in your parent's basement)). Most of the rest of it tends to be the nice-to-have (like cell phones, phone lines, new clothes, eating out).

    I would agree that cable internet is indispensable to me for work purposes, and would be one of the last things that I would cut back on in the event of a major problem (like losing a job).

    I pay about $225 for phone service, cell phone service, and satellite service, with another $50 for cable internet (total of $275). I've looked at getting rid of the home line and going strictly cell phone, but my spousal overlord unit isn't ready to do that yet, and with three teenagers in the house, I expect my telephone costs to be going up here until they move out of the house.

  7. I love seeing this by __aaeihw9960 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because it means that those of us 'young folks' (less than 30) in the USA who can actually plan their finances stand to be KINGS and QUEENS in the future. My wife and I live very, very comfortably on what my friends would call a meager pittance (we both work in education, thank you). Our stuff isn't as nice as what they have, but we also don't have the crushing burden of debt looming in our future. We may not have a MONDO flat screen, but we do have a high speed internet connection and access to as many movies and television shows as we need. We may not have a $70k car, but what we do have is reliable and gets 35-40 mpg. Our house might not be a McMansion, but our small house does sit on 67 acres of woodland. . . .

    We're saving for a college fund for children we don't have yet, saving for early retirement and generally living the life of leisure.

    Why am I saying all of this? Because, not all Americans are idiots. Most that I know are kind of stupid, but really not that bad.

    And some, like my wife and myself, are actually quite bright. Not meaning to brag, just meaning to point out that people like us exist.

  8. People spend money by mehrotra.akash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People spend money
    Not technology

  9. Not always true by boristdog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because of the Internet, I stopped paying for porn years ago.

  10. Misleading summary by wealthychef · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Statistics, damn lies... 41 percent sounds like a lot more than 8 percent, making it sound like people will choose music downloads over food, but the truth is most people don't download music.

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  11. Saving money is like Losing weight by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It matters less what you are doing with the flow of your metric, and more on your net balance.

    Whether I spend $300/mo on digital services or buy a bigger house than I need, or a nicer car than is necessary for my requirements, it's the same dollar at the end of the day. Americans are gaining weight because of easy access to high-calorie food that is made to be appealing through advertising and instant sensory gratification. Americans are not saving because our entire economy is based on spending as much as possible on things which are made to be appealing through advertising and instant sensory gratification.

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  12. Consumerism is where the market by Burz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    constantly tries to invent ways for people to spend more, and rapid technical innovation is at the core of that process. You have to outstrip not only the ability of people to simplify their lives, but outdo the very desire to do so.

  13. Attitude by KalvinB · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Really what has to happen is that people have to decide they aren't going to sign contracts for luxuries. My income has fluctuated so wildly over the last several years that I absolutely will not sign a contract for a luxury. Sure I can afford a $70 a month phone now, but what about 1 year from now? So I go with cheaper, non-contractual alternatives. I pay $37 a month for Virgin Mobile but I can drop it any time and go with a cheaper alternative (TracFone) or nothing at all. For awhile I dropped Netflix, stopped watering my backyard, stuck with TracFone, etc to minimize my monthly expenses.

    Contracts lock you into a particular life style that you may not continue to be able to afford. You need to be able to cancel services as quickly as you can lose a job.

    People can have nice things even without being rich, but it's the effort to have all the nice things all at once that keeps people in debt and poor. Once the house is paid off, that's $1200 a month I'll have for other nice things. In the meantime, the nice thing I have is a nice house.