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British Ban Spikes Pirate Bay Traffic

New submitter sleiper writes "Today sees UK ISPs begin to block access for their subscribers to the Pirate Bay URL. Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and O2 have already blocked access and the UK's biggest provider, BT, are currently reviewing their legal position. This access ban however has seen The Pirate Bay's traffic spike to 12 million more page views than their previous daily record. It seems obvious that a message is being sent, that this type of censorship is not the way forward. The Pirate Bay keeps on sailing.""

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  1. Testing if the ISP is banning TPB by Dark$ide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect most of the traffic is folks testing whether their ISP is imposing the censorship and if it is doing that testing whether proxies and/or VPN and/or OpenDNS/GoogleDNS or other methods circumvents that censorship.

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    1. Re:Testing if the ISP is banning TPB by niftydude · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Either that, or a Streisand effect: A whole bunch of brits wondering what this pirate bay thingy in the papers is about, and going to take a look.

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    2. Re:Testing if the ISP is banning TPB by LifesABeach · · Score: 2

      I find it curious that U.K. Spikes Pirate Bay, and Microsoft raises prices. Coincidence? I think not.

    3. Re:Testing if the ISP is banning TPB by robot256 · · Score: 2

      If they were lobbying against it, don't you think they'd tell people about it? They're keeping their position "under wraps" so nobody gets outraged and forces them to change it.

    4. Re:Testing if the ISP is banning TPB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is on virginmedia. I tried typing in the IP address and get the blocked due to a court order message. But I still have my mobile internet with Three which isn't covered by this court order.

  2. Re:Three minutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    3 minutes? It's just a case of putting an "s" after http.

  3. Re:You mean surge, not spike by qubezz · · Score: 4, Informative

    A spike is pointy. If it wasn't, I couldn't drive one into the heart of a vampire. It can point either direction like any pointy thing can, but is canonically used to indicate a temporary increase, such as a spike in power usage during a heat wave. Nobody would expect this to mean a decrease.

  4. Re:You mean surge, not spike by sleiper · · Score: 2

    Spikes typically categorise a one off short term increase, where as a surge would represent a more long term increase. Certainly when speaking about electricity, a spike in voltage is typically a short rise in voltage due to some transient event.

  5. Oh you got me... by need4mospd · · Score: 4, Interesting
    1. Re:Oh you got me... by Chonnawonga · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sadly, btjunkie, one of the best of your list, recently threw in the towel due to all this nonsense.

    2. Re:Oh you got me... by NardoPolo88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now you've done it. If the media companies reads this they are going to find out there is more than 1 torrent site.

    3. Re:Oh you got me... by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2

      It's a court order rather than the ISPs in this case (hence BT dragging their feet on the implementation), this is just extra hassle for them, they wouldn't be doing it if they hadn't been told to by the courts.

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  6. Re:hmm... by Yvanhoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    The US government is still trying to understand why wikileaks is still up.

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  7. Metaphor doesn't work! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Pirate Bay keeps on sailing.

    I get what you're going at and all, but this metaphor doesn't work. A bay can't sail. If you said something like "The pirate ship sails on!" we would still get the reference to the logo.

    1. Re:Metaphor doesn't work! by chilvence · · Score: 5, Funny

      The pirate bay keeps on.... 'arbouring! 'Arrrr!

    2. Re:Metaphor doesn't work! by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      'arrrrrbouring?

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    3. Re:Metaphor doesn't work! by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      The name of the boat the Jolly Roger flies is "The Bay". Bluebeard bought it after his horse won the Camptown races.

  8. The slippery slope by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't wait till the next step, blocking access to websites that provide instructions on how to access the pirate bay. Then they have an excuse to censor anything they like.

    I really don't support censorship, but I'm afraid it has to get much worse, before it wakes people up to what is going on.

    1. Re:The slippery slope by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except the lawyers refuse to acknowledge it isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement. If you get something and make copies to give away or use as backups, you haven't stolen anything, you've infringed on a copyright or trademark. The original owner still has possession of their intellectual 'property'. Yet the lawyers know the difference, and keep misusing the word 'steal' in order to pump up the 'severeity' of the 'crime'.

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    2. Re:The slippery slope by BootysnapChristAlive · · Score: 2

      The pirates are rapists. They rape my intellectual property.

    3. Re:The slippery slope by joss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wearing that DRM it was just asking for it.

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  9. Streisand-ephect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Streisand-effect at full force!

  10. Re:Three minutes by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

    The OP is probably a hunt and peck typist.

  11. Sky isnt blocking TPB by Kitano123 · · Score: 2

    Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and O2 have already blocked access

    I use sky and can still access TPB.

    1. Re:Sky isnt blocking TPB by u38cg · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are you on the light version (?Connect)? One Sky package is completely BT administered and Sky just supply branding, billing admin and take a cut.

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  12. Re:Three minutes by monkeyhybrid · · Score: 2

    I just tried accessing the HTTPS URL as a test on Virgin Media and it simply times out. Not sure if that's due to blocking or maybe PirateBay just doesn't have SSL setup (although I'd presume they would)?

    The HTTP URL is redirected to Virgin Media's site blocked page.

  13. Re:hmm... by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2, Funny

    Facebook is over this way --> Facebook.

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  14. Re:hmm... by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

    Thanks for helping change the world's perception of us...

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  15. Re:Three minutes by DJ+Particle · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ is apparently what they're using now.

  16. Pointless by Teknikal69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm more concerned with what they will start blocking now they have a precedent, wouldn't surprise me in ten years if you have only government licensed sites and a seriously crazy darknet going on, I think they'll come to regret trying to censor when they realise they have lost all control . I'm on virgin and had a check, yes t's blocked but it took me ten seconds to be able to access it anyway.

    1. Re:Pointless by tompaulco · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They don't have a precedent. They just made a ruling. One which can be challenged. Only if it is not challenged will it become a precedent. So, all you Brits, time to step up. You paid for access to the internet. If they are not giving you the access you paid for, demand your money back. Sue the ISPs. Sue parliament.

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    2. Re:Pointless by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good point actually. The moment they start to filter they can't say they offer access to the Internet, only the Internet*

      *stuff the government doesn't like excluded, subject to change at any time

  17. Re:hmm... by InsaneMosquito · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really? What if my representatives are behaving exactly like I want them to behave? That gets me 3 out of 535 votes in the House and Senate. Why am I responsible for the other 532 representatives that I can't influence one way or the other with my single vote?

  18. Re:hmm... by BootysnapChristAlive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (2) For those who did vote for a president who makes/made terrible decisions, they couldn't have possibly known all the actions the future president was going to take just from his campaign.

    It should be widely known by now that the two main parties are pure garbage. There is no excuse for continuing to vote for them.

  19. Re:hmm... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Go FUCK yourself, you anti-american scum! I'm so sick of people who don't like what our government is doing, taking it out on the American people. You're just a retarded, uneducated loser!

    Maybe if we did something about our retarded, uneducated government, we wouldn't get flamed for it?

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  20. Re:hmm... by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US is very proud of being a democracy, the people are ultimately responsible for their leaders actions

    No we're not. It's the leaders who are responsible for their own actions. And they are willing participants in a conspiracy to keep on screwing us over by concealing their own actions and making us believe their way is the only way. This is not a democracy. I'm not sure what it is, but it isn't a democracy.

  21. Re:Three minutes by Stween · · Score: 2

    Virgin Media has blocked just the IP address currently exposed via DNS for thepiratebay.se, far as I can tell. (I haven't tested exhaustively.) https://plus.google.com/109104274582476853846/posts/4ZDXRpUt99J

    TBP advertise a whole bunch more addresses via BGP, which I'm sure they could start using pretty quickly, if they wanted: http://bgp.he.net/AS51040#_prefixes

  22. Re:hmm... by Sperbels · · Score: 2

    People want to come here because we have a high standard of living and (for the most part) we don't persecute people based on religion, sex, ethnicity,etc. A high standard of living should NOT give the government the power to do whatever else they want though.

  23. Re:Three minutes by SomethingOrOther · · Score: 4, Informative

    The old, using google translate as a proxy works best and is suitable
    for non-techies. HINT Translate the web page from Esperanto to English
    There is also this lot I've copied and pasted

    https://piratereverse.info/
    http://malaysiabay.org/
    http://thepiratemirror.org/
    http://thepiratebay.ee/
    In the mean time, get on the phone to Virgin now and complain.
    Hint Call the number to open a new account, you will get though quicker.

    Oh and lameass filter, fuck off with too many junk characters OK?
    Do I have to type this bollocks to dilute the number of junk characters
    in one post or something. FFS I've wrote worse code and that is saying something. Feck arse drink girls feck arse drink girls feck arse drink

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  24. Re:hmm... by Custard+Horse · · Score: 4, Funny

    Chill out why don't you? Get it out of your system - go an invade a country or something...

  25. Re:hmm... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3

    In the US, you get to choose from two parties who are basically the same on all but a handful of issues. In the UK you have three parties, but otherwise the situation remains.

  26. Re:You mean surge, not spike by s0nicfreak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You stab vampires with stakes, not spikes.

  27. Re:hmm... by Githaron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If enough us "waste" our vote, there will be a third-party candidate.

  28. Re:hmm... by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 2

    Why am I responsible for the other 532 representatives that I can't influence one way or the other with my single vote?

    Because you live in a Democracy.

    Exactly. Your actual influence over the government is not significantly greater in a Democracy than in a Dictatorship, but if you happen to live in in a Democracy people will happily blame you for the actions of "your" government anyway, while those in a Dictatorship are merely victims.

    A person can only rationally be held responsible for their own choices and actions, not those of others. That applies just as much in a Democracy as anywhere else. However, if you support Democracy then you are legitimizing whatever the majority decides, which makes you responsible for the outcome regardless of your personal vote (or lack thereof). If you don't support what the majority chooses to do, the only moral position is to reject the legitimizing influence of Democracy itself.

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  29. look by sudstah · · Score: 2

    https://tpb.pirateparty.org.uk/ - this link lets you get onto to pirate bay without even having to bother to use a proxy yourself! GG government

  30. Re:hmm... by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a right, but it doesn't have to be. That's the problem -- once people have power, they don't want to give it up; the common man included. Maybe it's time to say "Hey, giving us all the right to vote isn't working out so well." I'm not saying it's the only answer, but we already take away people's right to vote (felons), and that's far more arbitrary and capricious. I think, at the very least, it's worth studying, and it should be relatively easy to trial in a setting with no real-world implications. Even if it's found to be inferior, I believe a government based on reason and science would be more successful than one where decisions are made based on nothing and everything all at once, which is what we have. It's telling that we don't trust democracy for *anything* of real importance, except securing against tyranny, and I think there may be more effective protections, especially considering its failure in that regard.

  31. Re:Three minutes by zmollusc · · Score: 2

    Really?
    On BranstonCable https://thepiratebay.org/ gives......

    The connection was interrupted

                        The connection to thepiratebay.org was interrupted while the page was loading.

        The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
            moments.
        If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
            connection.
        If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
            that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

    Http gives the virgin blocked page thing.

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  32. Article is misleading, only Virgin Media blocking by TAZ6416 · · Score: 2

    Sky, Talk Talk, Virgin Media and O2 have already blocked access and the UK's biggest provider, BT, are currently reviewing their legal position.

    At the moment Sky, Talk Talk and O2 can access the Pirate Bay fine, although I have no doubt this won't last for long.

  33. Re:Three minutes by atisss · · Score: 2

    There is good way to abuse that.

    #1 Buy an Amazon EC2 instance and set up TBP proxy there.
    #2 Add proxy IP to DNS.
    #3 As soon as provider blocks that IP, just restart it proxy will get different IP.
    #4 Repeat from #2

    If providers are determined to obey censorship, they will end up blocking ranges of Amazon EC2 IP addresses.
    If Amazon gets pissed off and blocks your account, just set up another account.

  34. Re:hmm... by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

    Well, I'm going to talk to you about Canada for a second.

    We have several viable parties up here, but for the most part, the two governing parties were either the Liberals (red) or the Conservatives (blue). Other parties, like the Bloq Quebecois (teal) and the NDP(orange), have held a various number of seats over the years but nothing really secure, nothing that would vastly influence how the country is headed. Most of us who wanted to vote for the orange party voted for the red party because we wanted to make sure, most of all, that the blue party didn't get elected.

    In the last election, the Liberal party was destroyed, along with the BQ. The orange is now the Official Opposition, and there's a very good chance they will be running the country after the next election. We've got some problems with the blue party running the place, but there's an ongoing investigation into election fraud.

    So, vote for what you want. You might just get it.

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  35. Lizards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    “It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see...”

    “You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”

    “No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

    “Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

    “I did,” said Ford. “It is.”

    “So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t people get rid of the lizards?”

    “It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

    “You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

    “Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

    “But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

    “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

  36. Re:hmm... by i_ate_god · · Score: 2

    Bloc Quebecois were also official opposition party in the 90ies.

    It used to be simple:
    Centre Right: Vote Tory
    Hard Right: vote Reformist
    Centre Left: Vote liberal
    Hard Left: Vote NDP
    Seperatist: Vote Bloc

    Which is why we've mostly been governed by tories or liberals, the two parties were moderates, and the majority of people are moderates.

    But now, we have a reformist prime minister because moderate conservatives have no one to vote for, and there is enough talk about joining the NDP and Libs together to unite the left, which, as a moderate centre-left guy, I am very much against. Let the hard left goto the liberals now, and keep us moderates happy with the NDP.

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  37. Re:hmm... by tbird81 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The only wasted vote is a vote for the Democrats or a vote for the Republicans.

  38. Re:hmm... by cheesybagel · · Score: 2

    The interesting thing is that the Roman Republic was adamantly opposed against all forms of monarchy or dynastic rule in the beggining. They used something similar to the Spartan way of government (the system with two elected "kings", where one stays home while the other fights abroad) until Augustus became emperor.