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Open Compute Developing Wider Rack Standard

1sockchuck writes "Are you ready for wider servers? The Open Compute Project today shared details on Open Rack, a new standard for hyperscale data centers, which will feature 21-inch server slots, rather than the traditional 19 inches. "We are ditching the 19-inch rack standard," said Facebook's Frank Frankovsky, who said the wider design offered better heat removal and a unified approach to power, including a 12 volt busbar. The Open Compute Project, developed by Facebook to advance open source hardware design, believes an open approach can avoid the mistakes of blade server chassis design."

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  1. Clouseau: The case is solv-ed by alphatel · · Score: 4, Informative

    So put the server power supply on the outside, basically.

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  2. metric? by SkunkPussy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first mistake is that they are still talking in inches instead of metric units.

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    1. Re:metric? by Christian+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Arguing metric vs. imperial units is pretty much the epitome of bikeshedding.
      We can do arithmetic nowadays.

      We can do, but people (even rocket scientists!) still get it wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter

      Technical issues should use SI units.

    2. Re:metric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter Technical issues should use SI units.

      The Mars Climate Orbiter was a case of someone not labeling their units. The unit system wasn't the problem.
      Secondly SI isn't always the best unit of measurement for performing calculations. In plasma physics we use eV in stead of joules for energy because it simplifies our work. In astro physics measuring distances in the SI unit of length, the meter, is impractical. If you are doing anything with relativistic electro magnetism, it's best to do your calculations in cgs because it eliminates useless constants.

    3. Re:metric? by David+Chappell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The first mistake is that they are still talking in inches instead of metric units.

      I would imagine that the reason is that 21 inch racks are already a standard. They are widely used in telephony. Introducing a third standard (say 55 cm racks) would likely complicate things for little gain. Better to just call them 5334 mm racks.

      This has already been done repeatedly in engineering. When I visit Europe (I am an American) I see things in Imperial units all around me, but most of the time nobody but me knows that they are. 6 mm steel cable? Why not 5 mm? Because 6mm is 1/4 inch. While is their 900 grams of buckwheat in this bag rather than 1000 grams? Because it is a two pound bag filled eight grams short. Railway gage in the former Soviet Union? 1524 mm. Yup, thats five feet. See that 1220x2440 mm sheet of plywood. Yup, 4 by 8 feet.

      This by the way is why it is so hard to convince Americans that they should switch the building and engineering trades to the metric system. All our building materials are sized on Imperial units. Converting these dimensions to oddball metric sizes would mean that builders would need to memorizes all sorts of weird dimensions and carry pocket calculators to figure out where the center of something is. There have been many serious attempts to do engineering projects in metric units. First they find out that they can't get materials in even metric dimensions. Then the vendors ask what they mean when they order 914.4 mm doors. Then the builders ask to have the drawings converted into 'the real measurements'. It begins to seem too much like masocism and on the next project they go back to units everybody understands.

      Many professions and markets have converted to metric in the US. Medicine mostly has. So has alcohol distribution. So have laboratories. So have our automobiles. But, I don't see any way for the building trades to convert.

      The metric system is clearly superior in scientific contexts. There the argument about ease of conversion is powerful. However this argument is meaningless in daily life. The only unit conversion the average person does is feet to inches. You don't need to know how many feet are in a mile in order to know whether you are exceeding the speed limit.

      I have found one use for metric units in daily life: increasing ones 'geek cred'. Since expressing dimensions in metric units is a form of elitist obfuscation, it is a great way to be annoying.

    4. Re:metric? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But units wouldn't need to be labeled if everybody used the same system. The continued existence of the zombie Imperial system is the root cause of the problem.

      Which is why SI has a number of accepted units. You'll note that both the eV and the astronomical unit are there, but not the feet or yards used by Lockheed to send a rocket past Mars.

      ALWAYS LABEL UNITS! This was the ONLY cause of the problem with the mars orbiter. If Lockheed used kilometers as their units instead and Nasa assumed meters the probe still would have had problems. If I tell you I have an energy of 5 does that mean 5 eV or J? You don't know if I don't label it.

  3. 2" shim market by RichMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I detect a few years of market window for rails with 1" shims attached (19+2x 1" = 21) to allow old servers to wedge into the new racks.

  4. Server width is changing Rack Width isn't by darthcamaro · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a big distinction that you need to understand here, the Width of the Server chassis is changing, not the width of the rack itself. The outer dimension of the Server Rack is staying at 24 inches. The REAL problem was a bogus amount of extra cruft in the rack design that is going to be eliminated to make way for the wider servers.

    1. Re:Server width is changing Rack Width isn't by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 5, Informative

      That "extra cruft in rack design" is where your cables go. I have an 18,000 sqft data center over here and I can tell you from experience that what you call "cruft" isn't nearly enough space for all of the cables once things start getting dense. We are actually considering 23" (telecom standard) racks with 19" rails in them for cabinets that aggregate the networking gear, just for this reason.

      But oh no, far be it from Facebook to actually work with the industry. They screwed up the Internet and now they're going to screw up your data center.

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  5. Why invent a new standard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why invent yet another new standard when there's a perfectly good one already in use, with lots of inventory in place?

    Telecom has used 23" racks for years. There are standard adapters already available to mount 19" hardware in a 23" rack. 23" racks are already available in the marketplace.

    Further, why 12Vdc? Telecom has been using DC plant for decades and there is a ton of existing 48Vdc equipment on the market. There area existing cabling standards for all this as well.

    Just seems like an attempt to fracture the market and create an opportunity to solve a problem that's already been solved.

  6. Ok, then. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Open Compute Developing Wider Rack Standard

    Well, programmers have been getting fatter over the years. I suppose this applies to the female ones, too.

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  7. RTF spec. - benefits and potential issues. by gstrickler · · Score: 4, Informative

    The spec can be downloaded from here

    At first, I thought this sounded like a stupid idea too. Then, I read the spec. They're not just changing the width of the equipment area, and it's not just an extra 2".

    External width is unchanged from the 19" rack standard, it's still nominally 23.6". No replacement of floor tiles or room redesign necessary.

    Equipment width is increased from ~17" (on a 19" rack) to 21", it's allows 4" wider equip.

    Power is handled in 3 "zones" per tower. Each power zone provides 12.5V DC power on each of 3 independent pairs of power rails, No AC power supply is required for each piece of equipment, but they will need DC-DC converters and VRs to supply the voltages needed for their specific components. That saves some space on each device, and provides a slight improvement in efficiency. Because this is standardized worldwide, there is no need for each device to have different power circuitry for different countries.

    Because a zone can have triple power rails, devices can use 1, 2, or 3 power rails to provide whatever level of redundancy is appropriate.

    Space for switches is included in each rack, along with power monitoring/reporting circuitry per rack.

    Battery backup power can either be built into the power supply for each zone, or supplied from a separate battery rack.

    The specification allows for many AC or DC power sources, this is the only significant part of the spec that will vary by country as the power units will need to support the available AC and/or DC supply.

    All devices are to be hot-plug compatible.

    So, it does have a lot of advantages.

    Here are the concerns I have with it:

    All power rails appear to be exposed. While they are on the back, this could be a significant safety (personnel and/or fire) issue. Considering that you can up to 500A @ 12.5V DC running through the zone power rails, and potentially more for the main cabinet DC power rails, exposed seems like a bad idea.

    The standard allows depths from 36" to 48". With the way devices connect to power rails on the back, it looks like this means you will need to use devices designed for the specific depth of your rack, or use a shim to extend the device to match the depth of the rack. I believe they should standardize on one, or at most 3 depths, and have a standard set of shims to connect the devices designed for the shorter depths to fit the deeper racks.

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  8. Re:Wow. Awesome advances in technology! by Doc+Hopper · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's covered in the article. 21" racks within the current 24" standard rack size. By eliminating cable mass in favor of bus-bars, you gain the two inches "free" in your rack footprint. If the rack's designed right, you could even keep the same seismic bracing.