Open Compute Developing Wider Rack Standard

1sockchuck writes "Are you ready for wider servers? The Open Compute Project today shared details on Open Rack, a new standard for hyperscale data centers, which will feature 21-inch server slots, rather than the traditional 19 inches. "We are ditching the 19-inch rack standard," said Facebook's Frank Frankovsky, who said the wider design offered better heat removal and a unified approach to power, including a 12 volt busbar. The Open Compute Project, developed by Facebook to advance open source hardware design, believes an open approach can avoid the mistakes of blade server chassis design."

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metric?

[SkunkPussy]

The first mistake is that they are still talking in inches instead of metric units.

Re:metric?

[Anonymous Coward]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter Technical issues should use SI units.

The Mars Climate Orbiter was a case of someone not labeling their units. The unit system wasn't the problem.
Secondly SI isn't always the best unit of measurement for performing calculations. In plasma physics we use eV in stead of joules for energy because it simplifies our work. In astro physics measuring distances in the SI unit of length, the meter, is impractical. If you are doing anything with relativistic electro magnetism, it's best to do your calculations in cgs because it eliminates useless constants.

Re:metric?

[David Chappell]

The first mistake is that they are still talking in inches instead of metric units.

I would imagine that the reason is that 21 inch racks are already a standard. They are widely used in telephony. Introducing a third standard (say 55 cm racks) would likely complicate things for little gain. Better to just call them 5334 mm racks.

This has already been done repeatedly in engineering. When I visit Europe (I am an American) I see things in Imperial units all around me, but most of the time nobody but me knows that they are. 6 mm steel cable? Why not 5 mm? Because 6mm is 1/4 inch. While is their 900 grams of buckwheat in this bag rather than 1000 grams? Because it is a two pound bag filled eight grams short. Railway gage in the former Soviet Union? 1524 mm. Yup, thats five feet. See that 1220x2440 mm sheet of plywood. Yup, 4 by 8 feet.

This by the way is why it is so hard to convince Americans that they should switch the building and engineering trades to the metric system. All our building materials are sized on Imperial units. Converting these dimensions to oddball metric sizes would mean that builders would need to memorizes all sorts of weird dimensions and carry pocket calculators to figure out where the center of something is. There have been many serious attempts to do engineering projects in metric units. First they find out that they can't get materials in even metric dimensions. Then the vendors ask what they mean when they order 914.4 mm doors. Then the builders ask to have the drawings converted into 'the real measurements'. It begins to seem too much like masocism and on the next project they go back to units everybody understands.

Many professions and markets have converted to metric in the US. Medicine mostly has. So has alcohol distribution. So have laboratories. So have our automobiles. But, I don't see any way for the building trades to convert.

The metric system is clearly superior in scientific contexts. There the argument about ease of conversion is powerful. However this argument is meaningless in daily life. The only unit conversion the average person does is feet to inches. You don't need to know how many feet are in a mile in order to know whether you are exceeding the speed limit.

I have found one use for metric units in daily life: increasing ones 'geek cred'. Since expressing dimensions in metric units is a form of elitist obfuscation, it is a great way to be annoying.

Re:metric?

[Anonymous Coward]

But units wouldn't need to be labeled if everybody used the same system. The continued existence of the zombie Imperial system is the root cause of the problem.

Which is why SI has a number of accepted units. You'll note that both the eV and the astronomical unit are there, but not the feet or yards used by Lockheed to send a rocket past Mars.

ALWAYS LABEL UNITS! This was the ONLY cause of the problem with the mars orbiter. If Lockheed used kilometers as their units instead and Nasa assumed meters the probe still would have had problems. If I tell you I have an energy of 5 does that mean 5 eV or J? You don't know if I don't label it.

2" shim market

[RichMan]

I detect a few years of market window for rails with 1" shims attached (19+2x 1" = 21) to allow old servers to wedge into the new racks.

Why invent a new standard?

[Anonymous Coward]

Why invent yet another new standard when there's a perfectly good one already in use, with lots of inventory in place?

Telecom has used 23" racks for years. There are standard adapters already available to mount 19" hardware in a 23" rack. 23" racks are already available in the marketplace.

Further, why 12Vdc? Telecom has been using DC plant for decades and there is a ton of existing 48Vdc equipment on the market. There area existing cabling standards for all this as well.

Just seems like an attempt to fracture the market and create an opportunity to solve a problem that's already been solved.

Re:Server width is changing Rack Width isn't

[IGnatius T Foobar]

That "extra cruft in rack design" is where your cables go. I have an 18,000 sqft data center over here and I can tell you from experience that what you call "cruft" isn't nearly enough space for all of the cables once things start getting dense. We are actually considering 23" (telecom standard) racks with 19" rails in them for cabinets that aggregate the networking gear, just for this reason.

But oh no, far be it from Facebook to actually work with the industry. They screwed up the Internet and now they're going to screw up your data center.