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Member Claims Anonymous "Might Well Be the Most Powerful Organization On Earth"

wasimkadak writes in with an interview with Anonymous member "Commander X" in which he talks about how the hacktivists are the most powerful group on the planet. "Christopher Doyon, a.k.a. Commander X, sits atop a hillside in an undisclosed location in Canada, watching a reporter and photographer make their way along a narrow path to join him, away from the prying eyes of law enforcement. It's been a few weeks of encrypted emails back and forth, working out the security protocol to follow for interviewing Doyon, one of the brains behind Anonymous, now a fugitive from the FBI. Doyon, who readily admits taking part in some of the highest-profile hacktivist attacks on websites last year — from Tunisia to Orlando, Sony to PayPal — was arrested in September for a comparatively minor assault on the county website of Santa Cruz, Calif., where he was living, in retaliation for the town forcibly removing a homeless encampment on the courthouse steps. The 'virtual sit-in' lasted half an hour. For that, Doyon is facing 15 years in jail."

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  1. Most powerful? by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Most powerful? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also less powerful than Amazon's cloud hosting or Lolita City which survived Anonymous' best efforts (sadly).

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    2. Re:Most powerful? by ddd0004 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, not counting those guys, because getting beheaded is the ultimate DOS attack.

    3. Re:Most powerful? by niftydude · · Score: 4, Funny

      Commander X is dreaming, I'm the most powerful organism on earth, who has the most powerful orgasms on earth, due to the fact that I have the most powerful organs on earth, and every so often I pop over to Utah to play the most powerful pipe organ on earth, and why the HELL am I reading an interview with a megalomaniacal fugitive, and also, how can a fugitive still have delusions of megalomania?

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      You can never know everything, and part of what you do know will always be wrong. Perhaps even the most important part.
    4. Re:Most powerful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I checked Wikipedia: they were going to release information on Zeta only because they had kidnapped an anonymous member. Los Zetas actually released their member, that's why they rescinded on OpCartel:

      On 6 October 2011 a man identified himself as a member of Anonymous posted a video on the Internet (YouTube) under the account MrAnonymousguyfawkes stating that Los Zetas had kidnapped one of their group members and demanded Los Zetas Cartel release the individual.

      ...Meanwhile, a retired head of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration in Puerto Rico, Mike Vigil, warned that "Los Zetas should take Anonymous seriously."...

      ...On 4 November 2011, Anonymous posted on the Iberoamerican Blog that the kidnapped member had been released and that they had confirmed his identity. They also stated that they would not be moving forward with releasing the information they had of several cartel members.

    5. Re:Most powerful? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Lolita City? Who's the mayor, Pedobear?

    6. Re:Most powerful? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is funny how people who seem to get a little power, think they are the most powerful person in the world. I see this with Middle managers who think they are Hot stuff, because they are high enough for the CEO to pay attention to him, or have a team with some control. They just get mad with power. When you go and start thinking how powerful you are, that usually means you have lost your way, and you are in too much of a power kick to get any real work done.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    7. Re:Most powerful? by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Used to be. Princess Molestia took over in 2011.

    8. Re:Most powerful? by blofeld42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Generally speaking, the leaders of the most powerful organization in the world don't have to arrange interviews in remote locations in order to avoid being arrested and thrown into prison.

    9. Re:Most powerful? by spintriae · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The fact that they even attempted to DDoS EC2 shows they are nothing more than script kiddies. EC2 is not a PIII in Amazon's broom closest. It's a large scale server infrastructure designed by some of the smartest hackers in the world explicitly to withstand incredibly high traffic. Any legitimate hacker could have explained that to them, but they managed to get well passed the planning stage of their little DDoS with not a single one of them mentioning it?

  2. So wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Being able to interrupt poorly-secured websites for a matter of minutes makes you "the most powerful organization on earth"?

    1. Re:So wait... by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is why, from 1996 to approximately 1999, Slashdot, with its feared cyberterror weapon "the Slashdotting", was widely considered the most powerful organization on earth.

    2. Re:So wait... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      According to Barnes & Noble, if you can use basic script kiddie tools you're basically the bad guy from Die Hard 4.

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    3. Re:So wait... by hazah · · Score: 4, Funny

      What exactly is 'the issue'?

      Same issue as ever, Pinky. People trying to take over the world.

    4. Re:So wait... by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't try to frighten us with your nerd's ways. Your sad devotion to that ancient DDOS has not helped you conjure up the censored pr0n, or given you clairvoyance enough to find Cmdr Taco's hidden fortressNO CARRIER

  3. Powerful in their own minds, maybe by finlandia1869 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People running around and doing the equivalent of tearing down billboards and defacing storefronts. Big whoops. Last I checked, the major players in the global financial network have actual power. And most central/federal governments, too. This guy needs a cold beer and a sense of proportion. Ok, maybe not the latter; we know that's the one thing that no one in the universe can afford to have. Make it two beers, then.

    1. Re:Powerful in their own minds, maybe by jimbolauski · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Delusion is the most power weapon they have in their arsenal, they realized their "power" when they attacked Scientology, and whipped it off the map. I would compare anonymous to a kid with a stick it's great for poking things bigger then you when there is a cage between you (anonymity), but as soon as there is no cage they have no real power as was shown with the Mexican cartel. If they truly want to see how powerless they are they can go ahead and release the classified data they claim they have and watch how many members are rounded up for treason. They think governments fear them but truly governments don't see them as a threat and as soon as that changes they're in for a sobering realization.

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      Knowledge = Power
      P= W/t
      t=Money
      Money = Work/Knowledge so the less you know the more you make
    2. Re:Powerful in their own minds, maybe by davegravy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They're best known for DOS attacks, but Doyon claims in the interview that they do much more than this. For example, the article mentions gaining access to sensitive email databases. He claims they often don't even need to hack to obtain these, that they're being provided by people in governments/corporations.

      Whether it's true or not, I don't know. All I'm saying is that the claim to power is based on more than website defacing that they're best known for.

    3. Re:Powerful in their own minds, maybe by honestmonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Their chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Their two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Their *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Their *four*...no... *Amongst* their weapons.... Amongst their weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

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      Everything you know is wrong, Just forget the words and sing along.
  4. Really? by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So how many guns and tanks does Anonymous control?

    And yes, I realize this is like Stalin asking how many divisions the Pope has, but hey, at least I didn't Godwin it!

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    The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    1. Re:Really? by SlippyToad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just the ones that are networked.

      Maybe that Adama fellow is right after all.

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      One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / the next it's rolling over me / I can get back on / I can get back on
  5. Re:Hmmm.... by nman64 · · Score: 5, Funny

    the US secrete service

    Yes, those secretions are to be avoided at all costs.

  6. Ok, yeah, sure... by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So Anonymous first defines itself as being the collective voice of everybody (with a disproportionate representation of 4chan), then claims it's the most powerful organization in the world. Good for you, guys, really... Now you can take on the Tautology Club.

    Unfortunately, I've just formed my own organization, called "Irresponsible", and everybody who doesn't know they're a part of Irresponsible is also a part of it! Because they're irresponsible in knowing what groups they're a part of, see? Since geological processes also don't take responsibility for their actions, they're also part of the organization. Who's the most powerful now, huh?

    Now, Irresponsible! Scream at a wall! Tear down posters! Show how mad you are at everything that doesn't appease you by inconveniencing others!

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    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
  7. Poseurs by roothog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's funny how if a group is *actually* powerful, you never see them making claims that they're powerful. Their actions say more than words.

    Anonymous are just poseurs. Not only are they poseurs on world-scale power, they're poseurs on computer hacking, all they know how to do is run DoS attacks. They're an embarrassment.

    1. Re:Poseurs by bws111 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Exactly. It seems to me that in order to be considered 'powerful' you must be capable of making others bend to your will. Exactly what has this so-called 'powerful' organization done other than annoy people?

  8. Re:Hmmm.... by sideslash · · Score: 4, Funny

    the US secrete service

    The sewer authority? I never knew.

  9. Of course it's silly, BUT... by dpilot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anonymous is another (clearly not the first) example of what I'll for lack of a better term, call a "virtual nation".

    It's obvious that the internet allows rapid worldwide communication. It's also obvious that it allows new aggregations of people to sort themselves out - that you can draw together like-minded people from all over the globe.
    What's less-than-obvious is to call these aggregates "virtual nations".

    But take a look at it from a slightly different perspective. People whose primary news source is Fox news live in the Unites States of America, and are quite proud of the fact. People whose primary news source is NPR also live in the United States of America, and are also quite proud of that fact. But when you ask the two groups of people what they thing the United States of America really is, beyond simple geographic attributes, you get two very different answers, two very different sets of allegiances. It's almost like they live in different nations. Perhaps in some sort of virtual way, they do.

    But perhaps the best and worst example of a virtual nation is Al Qaeda. There is a group of people whose allegiance has little to do with physical boarders. Their sense of belonging, their cause, their peers transcend the mere physical. (Note that interesting characteristics don't make it good, and in this case, far from it.)

    Anonymous is a less mature, less cohesive, less dangerous version.

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    The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
  10. The people by lwriemen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last I checked, the major players in the global financial network have actual power. And most central/federal governments, too.

    Only the people have the actual power. Financiers, governments, crackers, drug cartels, religions, etc. exist solely at the will of the people.

    1. Re:The people by jamstar7 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Last I checked, the major players in the global financial network have actual power. And most central/federal governments, too.

      Only the people have the actual power. Financiers, governments, crackers, drug cartels, religions, etc. exist solely at the will of the people.

      Have you taken a good look around lately? The people got cut out of the loop decades ago. Time to wake up and smell the napalm.

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      Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
  11. Re:Oh yea? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's right. In this month's issue:

    Walking the Tightrope: How much physical threatening is too much?

    Dealing with NDT "we're dealing with a badass" image macros

    Metal album covers as avatars: the Internet equivalent of a Tapout shirt

    Skill of 1000 hackers: Interview with Ichsun

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel