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Mobile Workers Work Longer Hours

Qedward writes "Last month it was reported on slashdot that a third of workers at a British telecoms company were 'more productive' working from home during a telecommuting experiment to prepare for the London 2012 Olympics. A more recent study reveals almost two-thirds of mobile employees say they are working 50+ and 60+ hour weeks, with most also working weekends. It also has security implications, with most mobile workers saying they will do anything to get an internet connection, including hijacking unsecure networks. The problem of needing a connection has also led to an increase in workers waking up through the night due to stress."

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  1. What? by war4peace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The problem of needing a connection has also led to an increase in workers waking up through the night due to stress."
    Seriously?
    What in the world is this shit? How can someone even attempt to work from home without a solid Internet connection and with no secure method of connecting to the company network? And waking up in the middle of the night because you need a connection to the fucking internet? Man, what a mess we're living in. And I thought I was messed up.
    Just get a fucking solid Internet connection. Surely one could afford it, I mean come on...

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    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even ignoring the connection thing, stress while working from home is a problem. The work is with you all day long and you feel pressured to keep whittling away at it, making relaxation difficult.

    2. Re:What? by dark12222000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Some people, myself included, can switch "work mode" on and off effectively. It's also at times useful to be able to pick at problems, especially stubborn ones.

      Obviously, your mileage will vary. Working from home isn't for everyone - some people concentrate better at work, some people can't stop working if they work from home, so on, but for some, it's quite advantageous.

    3. Re:What? by war4peace · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit.
      I've been working from home for a while and it's very relaxing. You can dress very, VERY casually, for example. I attended many a meetings while sitting butt-naked in a cozy chair. You can have a beer or whatever (I don't drink alcohol, though), you can pet the cat (I do) and so on and so forth. Lack of noisy-nosy-annoying colleagues is a plus. And as far as work being with you all day long, in a world where a laptop is ubiquitous and you can take it home, not to mention company provided VPN and webmail or mobile device connectivity, well, work's there already.
      I honestly think that whoever worries more while working from home either doesn't understand what "working from home" means or has deeper problems (including but not limited to a pathological fear of being fired).

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    4. Re:What? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bullshit. I've been working from home for a while and it's very relaxing. You can dress very, VERY casually, for example. I attended many a meetings while sitting butt-naked in a cozy chair. You can have a beer or whatever (I don't drink alcohol, though), you can pet the cat (I do) and so on and so forth.

      While you probably make many excellent points, I only managed to read so far as the part about being butt-nekkid, rubbin' pussy all day...

      Hell yea! Where do I sign up??

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    5. Re:What? by Niomosy · · Score: 4, Informative

      I had a friend work at a large company that began moving to working from home. He jumped at it, rented his house out, and rented a place out in Hawaii with his girlfriend. He loved it. Not too many others jumped in. He was baffled and started asking why. No one wanted to be at home all day. Some found being at home too stressful; spouse, small kids, noise, etc. Others simply liked being around other people they know for a part of the day. Others were too programmed with the office/home mentality of work/not-work.

  2. Re:Remote working is the future by Shikaku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's also a feature that you're on call 24/7, right?

  3. A third of them should be fired. by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a third of workers [...] were 'more productive'

    two-thirds of mobile employees say they are working 50+ and 60+ hour weeks

    Which means a third is working more hours while not doing a damn thing more.
    Either that or a lot of people are lying about how much they work.

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    1. Re:A third of them should be fired. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reporter: "How many people work in your company?"

      CEO: "Oh, about half."

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    2. Re:A third of them should be fired. by xelah · · Score: 3, Insightful

      a third of workers [...] were 'more productive'

      two-thirds of mobile employees say they are working 50+ and 60+ hour weeks

      Which means a third is working more hours while not doing a damn thing more. Either that or a lot of people are lying about how much they work.

      No, it doesn't - more productive means doing more per hour, not doing more by spending more time working. In fact, you'd expect lower productivity from people working 50+ hours, not higher, ceteris parabis. What I suspect does happen, though, is that chopping two hours of commuting out of the day makes it possible to work longer before getting the same level of productivity fall....but that really is just my guess.

    3. Re:A third of them should be fired. by blackraven14250 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly this. It's much easier to work a 50 hour week when you don't spend another 10 commuting.

    4. Re:A third of them should be fired. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of my closest friends became a remote worker after having worked with them for a few years. She now puts in more than 40 hours per week on a regular basis, but it isn't for lack of productivity. It's because she's out of sight and out of mind, which leads to all sorts of problems.

      Just this week, she had the following happen:
      1) She was assigned a task on Monday with a hard deadline of Friday morning. It was a tight deadline, but she figured she was up for it.

      2) She discovered that she couldn't start until TRIVIAL_TASK_X was done on their end, so she let them know and worked on some bugs in the meantime, figuring it'd be handled immediately.

      3) She reminded them that X needed to be done. And again. And again.

      4) They started X on Wednesday and finished it an hour later, leaving her two days instead of the necessary four for the task.

      5) She asked for help, since there was no way she could easily meet the deadline. Her request was denied, and she was told to make it happen anyway.

      6) Because she's not paid by the hour and was told to still meet the deadline, she felt obligated to put in 16 hours on Wednesday and another 16 today.

      That sort of thing never used to happen to her in the years that she was working on-site, but stuff like this (though not this bad) happens rather frequently for her these days. Whenever she visits them on-site, things are good again for awhile, but then they seem to forget that she's not a machine after awhile. She's ended up being the person who receives all the tasks that no one else wants to do, and she's had excessive work land in her lap on a much more regular basis since moving off-site. She's no less productive today than she was when she was on-site. She simply has more demanded of her since she's out of sight and mind and they fail to realize the burden they are placing on her. (And, to be fair, I think part of the blame lies with her for not speaking up more often or more clearly).

      Meanwhile, I work 40 hours a week. The idea that if you need overtime your manager probably messed up is a part of the culture here. I keep telling her to quit. She keeps staying with them like an abused spouse.

  4. "Employees say..." by bryan1945 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, and I have Bigfoot doing all the server backups. You expect them to say they are doing less work? Or even the same amount of work? No confirmation from their companies on whether the company saw an increase in productivity?
    Now before everyone gets flippy, I have known some people who did the mobile thing and were more productive, mostly because they didn't have people interrupting them every 5 minutes, and actually liked working more (as in hours) that way because it was more enjoyable. I also have known people that did their work in 3 hours and played games the rest of the day (also maybe because they could do 8 hours in 3 because of less distractions.

    Main point- employees are never going to say anything bad about work out of the office.

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  5. They may work more hours, and more productively, by pecosdave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But having commuted for five hours a day in the past, and worked from home on other occasions, I would much rather work nine hours at home than work for eight in the office with even one hour of commuting.

    Fuel, tires, collisions, stress, bus fair, everything associated with commuting sucks. I would much rather talk on the phone and fill out my work logs in my underwear than that.

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  6. Doubt they work longer... by rgbrenner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Worked from home for the past 10 years...

    I have no doubt they say they work longer... but it's more likely they just feel like they are working longer.

    With no separation between work and home, it can feel like you are always working, even when you're not. And that is what keeps them up at night.. the stress from never being able to wind-down.

    1. Re:Doubt they work longer... by smellotron · · Score: 3, Funny

      you can be on the phone with a headset. and if you sit and pee they cant hear you, that's why girls do it.

      I actually had one of these things, but the range sucked

      FTFY :)

  7. Re:They may work more hours, and more productively by houghi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would much rather work nine hours at home than work for eight in the office with even one hour of commuting.

    I am the opposite. I would rather work with people then without them.
    I know I would be less productive and hating it while I would be doing it. I like to have my home and my work completely separated.

    As the people are most likely volunteers, it would seem logical that people who volunteer, wanted to do it. Those will then be more likely to be indeed more productive.

    So perhaps it is not so much about telecommuters being more productive, but people who are in an environment they like to work in are more productive. (DUH!)

    Let them force people who do not want it to work at home and see if the same happens.

    I have absolutely no problem with the commuting part of it. I even see it as relaxing. Most of the time I listen to books and I often take detours that takes me even longer to get home. Once I am home, I like being there and do non-work related stuff.

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  8. What fools are doing this? by Lumpy · · Score: 3

    When I work from home, I dont even THINK of starting until start time and I am offline the second 5pm hits. Phones go to voicemail, sucks to be you with yout 5:01 TPS report as I will not even know about it until 7:59 the nest morning.

    If you let your employer abuse you, they expect you to take it. Stand up and realize you are doing your office a favor by working there, not the other way around.

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  9. Re:Remote working is the future by WCguru42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's also a feature that you're on call 24/7, right?

    There's no reason you have to answer work calls outside of your scheduled work hours. If they want you on call 24/7 then ask for compensation.

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  10. Data security with mobile workers by Compaqt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Data security classically was: you keep your data in a mainframe, and give people only terminals.

    Then it was: You give people PCs, but put gum in the USB slots.

    These days that's hard to do because motherboards want keyboards and mice to be USB.

    Not to mention laptops. And in some companies (like Nokia US), it's all laptops all the time. And mobile (i.e., no) offices.

    In such a scenario, how do you protect against an employee who wants to cp the entire database (design, products, customers, whatever)? Or other documents?

    Maybe this should be an Ask Slashdot.

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    1. Re:Data security with mobile workers by Belial6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      First thing you do is figure out if this is something that you even need to worry about. All security is about making it harder to get something than the effort to get it is worth. In homes, some people just use a lock on the front door. Others use a deadbolt. Others Still use as security door. The reality is that a battery operated recipical saw will take you right through the walls of most homes. No one builds their walls out of steel to prevent that simple attack on the house. Why? Because burgelers are not going to take that kind of effort to get in.

      That same needs to be looked at with corporate security. Some businesses really do need super high security. Most do not.

  11. Re:Remote working is the future by cheesybagel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, that's about it. Just turn off the power of your gadgets and ignore everything outside business hours. Only way to remain sane.

  12. Re:They may work more hours, and more productively by crafty.munchkin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I love my 10 hrs per week on the train - it gives me the opportunity to do 10hrs per week of reading, which when I was driving to and from work, I didn't have. In the last 5 years, I have read around 400 novels, and I arrive at work in the mornings in a great mood, as opposed to spending 1hr in traffic and arriving at work stressed out because 100 people have cut me off and nearly killed me. Similarly for getting home - I arrive home relaxed, instead of stressed out.

    When I do have the occasion to work a full day from home (rare, but it happens) I end up working a 10hr day, and find myself missing that reading time.

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  13. Unsecured networks? by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Informative

    What the hell are firms doing even making it possible to connect to their systems on unsecured servers? I've worked from home for years (well, 3 days at home, 2 in the office) and the only way I can connect is via my work laptop which has an encrypted hard drive and connects via VPN and an RSA keyfob thingy. Trying to connect any other way means you'll just get rejected by the servers and rightly so.

    As for hours, yes, I work longer hours at home but I can work them when I want (more or less, meetings permitting) so can be around for the school run, making dinner for the family in the evening etc.

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  14. Re:Remote working is the future by Saunalainen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get used to it people. It's a green initiative.

    No necessarily. If you don't work at home, you also don't have to keep your home warm (or cool) enough to be comfortable during the day. The office, on the other hand, will be kept at a reasonable temperature whether you're there or not.

    My wife's work is about 30 miles away, but she works from home most days. We calculated that, on the coldest winter days, the carbon cost of driving to work was about the same as the extra heating that would be needed if she stayed at home. If you have a shorter commute, or have a greener method of transport than driving a car, it's quite likely that it's greener to work in the office than to work at home.

  15. Re:Remote working is the future by Saunalainen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps some numbers would be helpful here.

    We have a small semi-detached house with cavity wall insulation, loft insulation, and double glazing. We still need over 10kW to heat in the cold months. If we're out of the house for 10 hours, we save roughly 100 kW hours (*). How far will your car go on that amount of energy?

    (*) Of course, it's not that simple because we have to use extra heat to bring the house back to normal temperature when we get home. A more accurate analysis would compare the temperature-time graphs for the two scenarios and use Newton's law of cooling. Nevertheless, the above figures are roughly correct.