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War and Nookd — eBook Regex Gone Haywire

PerlJedi tips a story that highlights one of the downsides to ebooks. A blogger who recently read Tolstoy's War and Peace on his Nook stumbled upon some odd phases, such as: "It was as if a light had been Nookd in a carved and painted lantern..." After seeing the word 'Nookd' a few more times, he found a dead-tree version of the book and discovered that the word was supposed to be 'kindled.' Every instance of the word 'kindle' in the ebook had been replaced with 'Nook.' "The Superior Formatting Publishing version isn’t a Barnes and Noble book, so this isn’t the work of a rogue Nook marketer from B&N. Rather, it’s likely that Superior Formatting Publishing ported its Kindle version of War and Peace over to the Nook — doing a search and replace to make sure that any Kindle references they’d inserted, such as in the advertising at the end of the book about their fine Kindle products, were simply changed to Nook. The unwitting hilarity of a publisher doing a 'find and replace' and accidentally changing the text of a canonical work of Western thought is alarming. Many versions of e-books are from similar outfits, that distribute public domain works formatted for Kindle or Nook at the lowest possible prices. The great democratizing factor of the ebook formats – that anyone can easily distribute – can also mean that readers can never be quite sure that they are viewing the texts as the author intended."

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  1. Okay, Okay It Was Me by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I went back and searched every kindle and cranny to set every instance of the word back to kindle to fix it.

    I'm only human.

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    1. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by jakimfett · · Score: 4, Funny

      Aha, my good fellow! Thy response doth Nook the warmth of delight in mine heart!

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    2. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by AKabral · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Accidentally replacing nookd with kindled (or verse visa) is hilarious.

      But...

      When you intentionally mar a national treasure due to current political correctness:
      http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/01/06/1555251/the-continued-censorship-of-huckleberry-finn/ - where they searched and replaced "ni99a" with "slave" from Huckleberry Finn...

      Well that's just arrogant (demonstrates a belief in the superiority of current social mores over historical realities) spineless (so our genteel sexting children don't have to face the fact that some Americans enslaved and legislated the inferiority of a whole race) and impoverishing (robs people of the opportunity for a real authentic discussion of the troubled history of race in this country).

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    3. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by DavidTC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Setting aside the idea of whether or not the word should be replaced at all, replacing it with 'slave' is deeply stupid.

      I understand how that word can make the book hard to read, and if people want to release altered versions, whatever...but the word to substitute in is 'Negro' or 'colored', not 'slave'. 'Nigger' isn't about Jim's state of enslavement, it's about his skin-color. He will still be called that slur whether or not he is free, he will always be seen as 'other' and 'not part of society', not because of his enslavement status, but because of his pigmentation

      Glossing over that is revisionist history of the worse kind, leading to a total screwed up lesson that, hey, Jim is now free, thus not a slave, and hence all those people who were so concerned about him being a nigger^Wslave will be entirely happy now, and Jim's entire life will be fluffy bunnies from now on and he'll be invited to their dinner parties.

      I don't know how Mark Twain would feel about his text being altered, I suspect that he'd be happy that racial slurs are no longer accepted, and could conceivable be okay with changing the text so that people continued to read it...but I suspect he'd be rather annoyed at the new text conflating racial prejudice with slavery. (And, thus, sans slavery, everything is fine.)

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    4. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      .but the word to substitute in is 'Negro' or 'colored', not 'slave'. 'Nigger' isn't about Jim's state of enslavement, it's about his skin-color.

      Actually, in the context of the literary masterpiece we are currently discussing, the adjective is technically part of the character's name.

      It's not that he's 'a nigger named Jim,' but rather that the character's name is "Nigger Jim." Don't take my word for it, read or re-read the book (worth it anyway, Clemens was a brilliant author), it's fairly obvious that this is the case.

      I don't know how Mark Twain would feel about his text being altered

      I studied Twain a bit in my youth, as he was a gifted author and pundit whom I happen to share a geographic origin with; from my understanding he would be royally pissed, especially considering that the censoring of his work has nothing to do with social enlightenment, and everything to do with shady-ass politicians trying to coerce the populace through emotional manipulation and bullshit token gestures; in his own words,

      “In religion and politics, people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other”

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    5. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by DavidTC · · Score: 2

      I really have no idea how he would feel. It's entirely possible he'd say 'That is the way it was, so it will remain that way.'. Alternately, he might say 'The word has become much more vile than it was back then, which I applaud, but that now lends the wrong connotation to the text, so I will change it'.

      I'm not even sure how this hypothetical works...Huck Finn was a specific book written for a specific audience for a specific reason, and Twain probably wouldn't even _care_ what modern audiences saw in it, and would be flatly astonished anyone still read it.

      If he wanted to speak to modern audiences, he would presumably be writing new books, not worrying about 130 year old books. I suspect if today he wrote Huck Finn, it would be rather different. (And now I don't even know what 'Mark Twain' we're talking about...a hypothetical 180 year old man? Or a current person who, somehow, wrote books about his experiences growing up in a small town in the pre-civil war Mississippi?)

      My point was actually that 'slave', despite being the most common choice of editors, is actually a utterly wrong word choice. 'Colored', 'Negro', even 'Black' would work. Or they could go with actual racial slurs that aren't as brain-freezing, like 'Darkie' or 'Spook'.

      But 'Slave' actually means something completely different, and having it conflated with what Jim is being called is not a good thing.

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    6. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Informative
      Take your pick:

      There's nobody for me to attack in this matter even with soft and gentle ridicule--and I shouldn't ever think of using a grown up weapon in this kind of a nursery. Above all, I couldn't venture to attack the clergymen whom you mention, for I have their habits and live in the same glass house which they are occupying. I am always reading immoral books on the sly, and then selfishly trying to prevent other people from having the same wicked good time. - Letter to Denver Post dated Aug. 14, 1902; also published in NY Tribune Aug. 22, 1902 (regarding banning of Adventures of Huckleberry Finn from the Denver Library.)

      But the truth is, that when a Library expels a book of mine and leaves an unexpurgated Bible lying around where unprotected youth and age can get hold of it, the deep unconscious irony of it delights me and doesn't anger me. - Letter to Mrs. F. G. Whitmore, 7 February 1907

      Censorship is telling a man he can't have steak, because a baby can't chew it.

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    7. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      ...where they searched and replaced "ni99a" with "slave" from Huckleberry Finn...

      You do realize that you can actually post the word "nigga" on slashdot, right?

      You do realize that Mark Twain was l33t, right?

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    8. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by Kielistic · · Score: 2

      The word is no more vile today than it was when this book was written. Now we just have a bunch of people that want to pretend like racism never happened. Also, I suppose, a lot of people that do not understand literature. Censoring a book because some people find a word offensive (which is the entire point of the word and the reason it was chosen) is a travesty.

    9. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      It's an important aspect of the book that people use the terrible slur nigger as easily as they use any other word. Changing it to anything else is revisionist bullshit and the people responsible should be carted off to someplace they can no longer harm our societal development.

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    10. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by Fishead · · Score: 2

      A few (dozen?) years back a chemistry prof was writing the lab manuals and wanted to change "protective gloves" to "protective clothing". He did a find and replace gloves with clothing.

      Various lab instructions included the phrase "It is not necessary to wear clothing in this lab".

      Hilarity ensued.

    11. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by EdIII · · Score: 2

      Yes deeply stupid... but it does remind me of the incredibly stupid argument back in the 90's (I think) where it was discussed that we needed to change the naming conventions on IDE hard drives.

      Master/Slave was just too controversial and needed to be replaced. I remember several times over hearing somebody ask another tech if they had set the drive to slave mode only to be responded with, "Oh yes Masa. Set it to slave mode right quick Masa.". Yes, we did have a sarcasm problem where I worked.

    12. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by DavidTC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Uh, not really. Word meanings and connotations changes over time.

      'Nigger' was a slur, but it wasn't, as you call it, 'a terrible slur'. I point to Scout using it (And being corrected by her father.) in To Kill a Mockingbird, set in the 1930s, written in the early 60s.

      It's only fairly recent that it became an obscene word that people won't say, ever. Not even in the context of reporting what other people say.

      Or to look at it another way: Huck and Tom talk about 'Injun Joe' all the time, just like 'Nigger Jim'. That is also a racial slur, used in exactly the same context. And if you went around calling people 'Injun' in the modern day, well, people would rightly assume you were racist. But when they recounted the story, they would say that you said 'Injun', not 'the I-word'. And you'll notice that no one has proposed changing 'Injun' to anything in Huck Finn.

      This is because at some point the taboo against 'nigger' became so strong that it managed to cross the boundary into the obscene, thus fundamentally changing how we see the word, which imparts a rather unintended impact to Huck Finn.

      You can argue for that impact, but it's certainly not something Mark Twain knew was going to be there.

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    13. Re:Okay, Okay It Was Me by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      'Nigger' was a slur, but it wasn't, as you call it, 'a terrible slur'.

      Unless someone happened to be calling you nigger.

      It's only fairly recent that it became an obscene word that people won't say, ever.

      That's not because the meaning of the word has changed. It's because now black people have some power. Also, I note you don't think that black people are people; they will say nigger at the drop of a hat. And don't give me any of that jazz about it being "nigga" because we all know that's just nigger in disguise.

      This is because at some point the taboo against 'nigger' became so strong that it managed to cross the boundary into the obscene,

      It's called black rights. It didn't just happen. When blacks became legally recognized as people they could react against being called nigger without immediately being at fault.

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  2. Publishers need to be introduced to diff by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Such an amazing set of tools such as diff and grep would probably amaze them.

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    1. Re:Publishers need to be introduced to diff by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Diff is the kind of thing that MOST PROFESSIONALS would benefit from.

      Imagine diffing laws from year to year.

    2. Re:Publishers need to be introduced to diff by Genda · · Score: 2

      Who sed? A little globbing and reg-ex goes a long way :-)

  3. George Orwell couldn't even come close to today by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I accidentally Western Literature, is that bad?"

    It's not just intentional malice you need to look out for but also just pure distilled stupidity.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  4. This isn't about regular expressions... by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'eBook Regex Gone Haywire'

    This is a straight-forward substring replace, not a regular expression. A not-completely-stupid regex would at least have only converted \bKindle\b, although obviously even then human oversight would be necessary.

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    1. Re:This isn't about regular expressions... by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 2

      Depends entirely on how they did it, it's perfectly possible to write a regex which is identical to a substring replace, and I'm sure there's plenty of software that does exactly that despite the technical extra overhead of calling a regex engine.

      Generally though, yes I agree, regex is being used synonymously with replace just because this is Slashdot and we need to wave our special words around.

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  5. What a brute force method... by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny

    You could say it's downright medireview.

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  6. Amusing, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, this story is definitely an amusing anecdote, but I feel like TFA has the wrong takeaway. The fact is, while this specific issue is obviously e-book related, the overall problem of poor quality, low cost public domain publications is in no way specific to e-books. There have always been low budget publishing houses that print poorly edited, poorly translated versions of public domain works. Spend some time digging around used book sales, you'll find an endless supply of these, most notably from the 60's and 70's.

    1. Re:Amusing, but... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, this story is definitely an amusing anecdote, but I feel like TFA has the wrong takeaway. The fact is, while this specific issue is obviously e-book related, the overall problem of poor quality, low cost public domain publications is in no way specific to e-books. There have always been low budget publishing houses that print poorly edited, poorly translated versions of public domain works. Spend some time digging around used book sales, you'll find an endless supply of these, most notably from the 60's and 70's.

      No, the sad part is full price books from Amazon with incoherent pagination, horribly over recompressed jpegs and a verdant sea of spelling errors. I'd give Project Gutenberg a pass for those sorts of things except that the majority of PG books I've read are actually pretty well done.

      When I'm paying top dollar for a product, I'd like some attempt at quality control....

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    2. Re:Amusing, but... by h4rr4r · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find when paying top dollar is when you are least likely to get quality control. Look at really expensive software as a great example, I have never seen any costing 6 figures or more that was not a huge pain and did not fail to do its job on a regular basis.

    3. Re:Amusing, but... by b0bby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is the problem exactly. I can deal with odd formatting from a PG book (though as you say, most are fine); what pisses me off is recent, full price ebooks where there has obviously not been the slightest attempt at editing or typesetting. One I got recently had a consistent problem where quoted text changed font & size after the first paragraph, which is pretty jarring. A full price book on my Nook should be a better experience than PG or scanned & OCR'd pdb were on my old Palm Pilot but sometimes these types of glitches just take you out of the experience & actually seem worse.

      The Oatmeal's book "5 Very Good Reasons to Punch a Dolphin in the Mouth" I luckily got out of the library (through Overdrive) - the images are so small as to be unreadable, both on the PC & ipad. If you look at the Play store, there are lots of good reviews, but they're all from Goodreads & such for the paper version. I'm sure it's funny, if you can read it; if I'd paid money for this pile of bits I'd be pissed. Does the publisher not own an ipad or a Kindle Fire? Did they not load it on one single device & say to themselves, "hmm, this really sucks, let's fix it"?

    4. Re:Amusing, but... by jimicus · · Score: 2

      I find when paying top dollar is when you are least likely to get quality control. Look at really expensive software as a great example, I have never seen any costing 6 figures or more that was not a huge pain and did not fail to do its job on a regular basis.

      Having seen what happens with Sharepoint, I'll put money on it the exact same thing happens with other really big expensive packages: some manager used a well-implemented Sharepoint/SAP/(insert product here) system in the past and - thinking it was something you could just install and run with like Office, rather than a toolkit that you're supposed to use to build a system around your business processes - ordered a system based on it to be installed.

      $Thousands, maybe $tens of thousands in licensing later, the company has their system - it's a bog-standard install out of the box set up by someone in the IT department who literally just threw it up on a server and said "There you go. Job done".

      Nobody can figure out why it does very little - particularly considering how the manager who ordered it evangelised it - yet most are afraid to say anything lest they get accused of questioning management decisions. By the time anyone figures out that it should have been treated as a formal project with requirements, processes and such, it's far too late to find money in the budget to go back and do it properly and far too humiliating to admit that the company - at the behest of a senior manager - went out and bought a very expensive product without first ensuring that said product would, in and of itself, achieve anything.

  7. sed -i ... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 5, Funny

    sed -i s/wand/wang/g Harry\ Potter*

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    1. Re:sed -i ... by EkriirkE · · Score: 2

      I love this version!

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      to 45 2F 6E 40 3C DF 10 71 4E 41 DF AA 25 7D 31 3F
    2. Re:sed -i ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      for those who haven't read the referenced bash.org quote :

      <JonJonB> Purely in the interests of science, I have replaced the word "wand" with "wang" in the first Harry Potter Book
      <JonJonB> Let's see the results...

      <JonJonB> "Why aren't you supposed to do magic?" asked Harry.
      <JonJonB> "Oh, well -- I was at Hogwarts meself but I -- er -- got expelled, ter tell yeh the truth. In me third year. They snapped me wang in half an' everything

      <JonJonB> A magic wang... this was what Harry had been really looking forward to.

      <JonJonB> "Yes, yes. I thought I'd be seeing you soon. Harry Potter." It wasn't a question. "You have your mother's eyes. It seems only yesterday she was in here herself, buying her first wang. Ten and a quarter inches long, swishy, made of willow. Nice wang for charm work."
      <JonJonB> "Your father, on the other hand, favored a mahogany wang. Eleven inches. "

      <JonJonB> Harry took the wang. He felt a sudden warmth in his fingers. He raised the wang above his head, brought it swishing down through the dusty air and a stream of red and gold sparks shot from the end like a firework, throwing dancing spots of light on to the walls

      <JonJonB> "Oh, move over," Hermione snarled. She grabbed Harry's wang, tapped the lock, and whispered, 'Alohomora!"

      <JonJonB> The troll couldn't feel Harry hanging there, but even a troll will notice if you stick a long bit of wood up its nose, and Harry's wang had still been in his hand when he'd jumped - it had gone straight up one of the troll's nostrils.

      <JonJonB> He bent down and pulled his wang out of the troll's nose. It was covered in what looked like lumpy gray glue.

      <JonJonB> He ran onto the field as you fell, waved his wang, and you sort of slowed down before you hit the ground. Then he whirled his wang at the dementors. Shot silver stuff at them.

      <JonJonB> Ok
      <JonJonB> I have found, definitive proof
      <JonJonB> that J.K Rowling is a dirty DIRTY woman, making a fool of us all
      <JonJonB> "Yes," Harry said, gripping his wang very tightly, and moving into the middle of the deserted classroom. He tried to keep his mind on flying, but something else kept intruding.... Any second now, he might hear his mother again... but he shouldn't think that, or he would hear her again, and he didn't want to... or did he?
      <melusine > O_______O
      <JonJonB> Something silver-white, something enormous, erupted from the end of his wang

      <JonJonJonB> Then, with a sigh, he raised his wang and prodded the silvery substance with its tip.

      <JonJonJonB> 'Get - off - me!' Harry gasped. For a few seconds they struggled, Harry pulling at his uncles sausage-like fingers with his left hand, his right maintaining a firm grip on his raised wang.

    3. Re:sed -i ... by osu-neko · · Score: 2

      Let's not wanger off-topic...

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  8. Not "The Text of a Canonical Work" by careysub · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless it is in Russian. Any translation runs the risk of not being "as the author intended".

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    1. Re:Not "The Text of a Canonical Work" by Pope · · Score: 2

      If the translation is done with care, it will follow the author's intentions very closely. That is the hallmark of good translations.

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    2. Re:Not "The Text of a Canonical Work" by Sique · · Score: 2

      No. Definitely no. There are works which only shine in translation. A notable example would be the TV series The Persuaders!, which was o.k. in the original English, but hilariously great in the dubbed German version.

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    3. Re:Not "The Text of a Canonical Work" by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2

      It's not possible to translate Russian into English and maintain the original depression. Nothing can possibly be more depressing than it can be in Russian.

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  9. Just wrong. by CubicleZombie · · Score: 4, Funny

    They really shouldn't mess with the clbuttics.

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  10. The solution is simple... by Genda · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Part of the problem is the grotesque need to put advertisement inside everything we do, because sweet Jebus help me if we can't find some way to squeeze another penny of profit off a dead author's moldering corpse. Sadly, this problem isn't going away any time soon. How about this, separate the "Work of Art" from the annoying bits. Literally have them be distinct and separate objects. Leave the art alone. Do not touch it. Keep your grubby mitts off my masterpiece you heathen. Dork with your part as much as you like... it is after all your part. This is about sloppy data management and publishers need to begin to understand the nature of data. That is, if they intend to sell books in an electronic format. All you publishers, please have a brief but productive conversation with a few software and IT folk about how you manage data integrity, and ensure your product doesn't A) Get stepped on by stupid stuff B) Get corrupted by lack of proper data safeguards.

    The rest as they say, is business as usual... please proceed, nothing to see here.

  11. Another clbuttic case... by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just more of the same clbuttic errors.

    (Hint: "ass" was one of the 13 words.)

  12. You can be sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    " can also mean that readers can never be quite sure that they are viewing the texts as the author intended."

    As an owner of a publishing company I can assure you the authors intentions are almost never the highest priority. Having read thousands of unedited manuscripts, many by very well known modern authors, I can say with confidence that you don't want to know what the authors originally pooped out.

    1. Re:You can be sure by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      Yes, I would.

      If I cared what the publisher wanted to write, then I would read something written by the publisher.

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  13. Same with DB dumps by stackdump · · Score: 2

    I once saw the same issue when a db dump was edited. A user 'bend' was replaced with 'ainsleyj' globally - hilarity ensued.

  14. Romeo & Juliet by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

    But soft, what light through yonder Linux breaks?
    It is the east, and Juliet is the Oracle(TM).
    Arise, fair Oracle(TM), and kill the envious moon,
    Who is already sick and pale with grief
    That thou, her maid, art far more fair than she

  15. Umm, yeah? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anybody ever been introduced to the wonderful world of the truly dreadful unauthorized variants of canonical texts that were being hacked out while the ink on those texts was barely dry?

    Actors and/or audience members cobbling their (often surprisingly good; but not good enough) memory of a new work of Shakespear into a cut-price unauthorized edition, some really trippy stuff in those version... Hack printers buying first editions and setting blunt type as fast and furious as they could, to get their knockoff on the street before the other guy did... Never mind the various editorial mistakes in subsequent prints, bowdlerizations, etc.

    Of course, works that started as oral traditions or assembled-by-committee mashes of existing texts are far worse than even the worst horrors of post-gutenburg hackery. Oh, and let's not even talk about the dark history of situations where translation has been needed...

    There's a whole industry, in academia, of 'critical editions' that are distinguished in no small part by the editor actually giving a damn about the sources drawn from, attempting to provide the most accurate reproduction of the original, essays and footnotes illuminating the process of choosing between manuscript A and manuscript B, and how to transliterate manuscript C's character names, and whatnot.

    Sure, .99 public domain cash-ins are largely shlock(Project Gutenburg isn't world-class critical editions; but they do at least tend to be produced by people who give a damn and aren't just grubbing for cash by releasing quick and dirty repackages); but the quality of the low end of the market for printed works has always been pretty dire. At least, these days, we don't generally see physical problems like crap ink, blunt, used type, or horrid paper stock also being inflicted on the readers in the cheap seats.

  16. checksum by TheSync · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Every novel should have an MD5 hash....

  17. Re:hey by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's a dangerous world of low cost ebooks out here

    Nah, some of the expensive ebooks are worse; I've seen a number of people complain about e-books of recent high-priced novels where they've clearly OCR-ed the print book rather than use the actual digital text it was created from, because it's full of uncorrected OCR errors or 'corrections' to the OCR errors which are even further from what the text should say.

  18. Well, this is the biggest ebook problem I've had: by hey! · · Score: 2

    Cheap, crummy ebook conversions with no editorial checking. This has been going on for years, and it will continue to be a problem for the foreseeable future.

    A physical book is costly to produce. It's costly to stock and ship them as well. Given those costs, the additional cost of doing a little editing is insignificant. Ebooks, on the other hand, open up new depths of low cost publishing. It's one of those perverse, ironic results. You'd think that cutting down the reproduction and stocking costs of a book would free up money for other tasks, but in fact what happens is that editing, design and promotion become an opportunity for cutting what is now a more significant proportion of expenses.

    As ebooks become the dominant form of book reading, the opportunity arises for marginal publishers to publish books with expenses cut to the bone. Eventually the role of publishers as mediators between the author and public to disappear, and authors will hire editors, story development consultants and designers themselves. Or perhaps literary agents will take the place of traditional publishers, becoming full service business management services for authors. In any case, expect that a greater proportion of "published" books to be poorly designed and edited.

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  19. Scunthorpe Problem by constpointertoconst · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is a Wikipedia article about this issue:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

    "The problem was named after an incident in 1996 in which AOL's dirty-word filter prevented residents of the town of Scunthorpe, North Lincolnshire, England from creating accounts with AOL, because the town's name contains the substring cunt.[1] Years later, Google's filters apparently made the same mistake, preventing residents from searching for local businesses that included Scunthorpe in their names.[2]"

    There is also a stub article about a specific instance of the replacement effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medireview

  20. Obnoxious geeks by DogDude · · Score: 2

    "Dead tree version"? Really? Is that kind of asshole-ish snark really justified? If you want to read an Amazon-brand Shakespeare-flavored Licensed Advertisement-Delivery System (tm), go right ahead, but there's no reason to poke fun at actual books, which are significantly less likely to have these kinds of glaring mistakes in them.

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  21. Their site doesn't work, either. by Animats · · Score: 2

    "Superior Formatting Publishing"'s web site is broken. It consists mostly of "Whoops, looks like there was a problem get the book data from Amazon. Please try again in a moment" and "Amazon API error". Plus a Kindle ad. And "All of our e-books are formatted specifically for the Kindle by an expert in formatting online content using only raw code."

  22. Re:Death of the author due to death of the author by osu-neko · · Score: 2

    How do we know what the author's intentions are, especially for works whose author has been dead for at least 70 years?

    If the author's intentions are not obvious from the text, then you're no better off reading it in the original Russian.

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  23. Twain chose that word for a reason by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You do realize that you can actually post the word "nigga" on slashdot, right?

    apparently AKabral is one of many avatars of Ironyman.

    oh, and the word being referred to is nigger

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